Europe BTFO!
Seriously, the Eurofags don't have any plans on how to change this.
Oh well, at least they have socialism and a 20 hour work week.
>>55567305
*yawn
compare by population
hide sage report
>>55567305
That forecast doesn't look too good tbqh
>>55567447
Why? Because shitskins will become the masterrace?
>>55567521
China's economy is failing.
>>55567564
Sauce?
I will marry a qt chinese waifu desu
>>55567564
Yeah right. It is failing so hard they started to colonize Africa.
>>55567305
Yeah Europe got absolutely fucked up during the last decade.
Basically, Americans got so fucking assmad that they didn't get their support during the Iraq War that they completely cut all ties with them and instead started trading with Korea and India.
The result is that 10 years ago, everyone had Siemens and Nokia phones whereas today no one even knows that these two companies exist and everyone has a Samsung or an LG, and the CEO of Microsoft is Indian. Meanwhile, Europe has become a third world shithole on the brink of a civil war.
>India
>>55567701
>Nokia phones whereas today no one even knows that these two companies exist
I'm still rocking a Nokia, to be honest family. Best sound quality and highest durability.
>>55567305
>2030
>india global player
>among top economies
>chart for 2050 probably India #1
nice meme
If Europe federalized into the United States of Europe, it would probably keep both the US and Europe at the top.
>India super power by 2030
>>55567601
China has shown they've been doctoring their reports. Millions of Chinese still without any real wealth. One party state stifles innovation and resorts to stealing. They've grown so big by being industrialized but now switching to service economy they'll have to cut down on industry. China will start outsourcing and because Commies can't transition into anything well it'll stagnate like Japan.
>>55567867
What culture and language would be official of such nation?
>>55567305
>history started 145 years ago
noice
I studied chinese so I don't really give a fuck
>>55567913
People seem to forget the obligatory internal revolution both for China and India still to come. Mark my words.
>>55567305
Please look at prognoses from the 90s about 2010.
>>55567945
Swedish.
>>55567305
Where is Australia? Didn't they predict Australia to be top, especially also because they making TPP and are basically half-Asian merchants by the time 2030 comes. Australia will be like EU, but with Asian countries and connected to USA/Europe.
>By the year 2000, the Soviet Union will surpass the United States in GDP.
This is what American textbooks used to teach.
>>55568074
Sweden is a monarchy. So I vote NO. I want to have a illusion of freedom and sovereignty.
>>55568166
this is absurd by sheer population gap. only a retard would have constructed such a figure.
>>55568274
>only a retard would have constructed such a figure.
>american textbook
What's your point again?
>>55567305
What do you think europe will accomplish while muslims are fucking them in the ass.
>>55568422
Assfucking is haram. Check your facts.
>>55567810
>tfw "remove kebab" song no HD quality
>>55567305
GDP Per Capita is all that matters you idiot.
Switzerland GDP=600 Billion
India GDP =2000 Billion
Switzerland GDP Per Capita = 60K
India GDP Per Capita = 5.5K
Where would you rather live?
Never change /pol never change.
>>55567913
Sauce? Do I have to ask a third time?
>Economic dominance actually means anything
Would rather live somewhere not in the top 3 than have children being shot on a daily basis.
>>55568274
The Soviets were good liars... or we had shitty spies. Either way, the US overestimated Soviet capabilities in just about everything throughout the Cold War.
>>55567305
What do the numbers mean?
>>55573431
never mind I'm retarded.
Why do people think china will be an economic powerhouse? They build buildings from Styrofoam and 600m people in their country do not have toilets.
>>55567867
This is what I dream of. With the TV and internet, most of them are immersed in English anyway. Let us unite into a new Rome and conquer the Middle Eastern oil producers. If we had Russia we'd be completely unstoppable, capable of penetrating the entire globe.
>1870
>Schwarz-Rot-Gold Kuckflag
>>55570223
China is 30 trillion USD in debt. Their entire economy is debt driven. Like the US, but without the innovation.
Look it up yourself, faggot. I'm not going to spoonfeed you information so that you can shitpost more.
>>55574359
>lol China will NEVER catch up they're fucking gooks they're just inferior
>china has already replaced us as number 1 gdp ppp after not even being on the map 40 years ago
Just admit it faggot. Britain became king because it was the workhouse of the world. Then America becomes a bigger workhouse and replaces Britain. Now China is again the massive workhouse of the world, the largest exporter, the largest middle class, etc etc. The only fucking thing America has left is her giant military. If we don't make a move fast were going to be part of China's global empire.
I'm talking
>unify with Europe, Anglicize it
>conquer ME and LA, Anglicize them gradually
We have loads of welfare freaks who could be put to this task, and Mexico and Syria/Iraq would be glad for us to intervene. The problem is for us to have anywhere near the political capital to do this we need to directly integrate Europe first.
>doesn't seriously believe this will happen, what will most likely happen is capitalism centers around China and we go through crisis after crisis while our power and wealth flows across the Pacific
>>55567415
>population meme
>not knowing PP
I wonder what will happen with China once the economic growth rate stagnates and people begin complaining about lack of jobs/inequality etc.
>>55567305
does this graphic take into account all the economic benefits europe will reap from their current crop of immigrants?
>>55571439
countries with economic dominance dictate terms to countries without economic dominance
only way to escape is to be totally irrelevant like new zealand
>>55567305
There is nothing wrong with this. European countries do not have the populations to be the number one economies.
>>55575215
Nothing because China has a $3 trillion reserve fund to play around with, it will default itself to keynesian spending to keep its legitimacy. That or it will start a war with one of its neighbours so it can declare "China stronk".
>>55574921
It is relavent, quality of life and education are what everything boils down to as long as you're safe and secure. As luck would have it any relevant nation is in possession of a nuclear arsenal which deters any large scale military action. Humanity has been in a constant state of rapid change and evolution for two centuries and that is unlikely to change.
>>55567601
>>55567305
China was hyped up by the media. Now its going sideways.
Its now entering the same period which struck Japan in early 90`s - remember the 80`s hysteria about Japan taking over and everyone learning Japanese? Yeah, wonder where that went..
First of all, China has been lying about its GDP for quite some time. Japan too had big growth but here`s the catch - it didnt result in big net profit. Its the same problem with China - GDP growth and actual profit doesnt corelate. And when everyone in US was wondering during early 90s why Japan had massive capital outflow when they supposedly were doing so good - Japanese knew that shit is about to hit the fan.
Its the same with China.
China has about 100 million people in middle class - but they have almost billion people living in Nigeria-type poverty. The interests of costal regions dont match up with the poor interior.
China is dependant on its exports but its main problem is that it cant sell its own shit to their own people.
Asian economies dont grow their economies like we in the West do - you know, sell more shit to more profits.
They grow it to avoid unemployment - the nightmare of Chinese Communist party. Thats why you have dozen of ghost towns and industries that in Western market wouldnt even last a year - heavily subsidized and inefficient.
It`s a regional power but China is going sideways and it both cant and wont become a challenger to USA superpower status.
Did you know that most of defense spending as of late is going for internal security forces?
In time PLA will turn in to police-force - it`ll still have its hilarious J-31 and other toys but they`ll be meant as a deterent for Japan.
Besides! I want to stress this - Japan is the true heart and soul of Asia, not China.
Its got very capable Navy,highly trained Army,its ethnically united and its living standard is the one that Chinese can only drool on.
>>55576437
> making excuses
you have a 200 year head start on industrialization
>>55576794
And there are limitations on how far it can take you.
>>55576714
I really have to ephasize this - Japan, not fhe fucking China, is the true heart and soul of Asia.
It`s got none of the vulnerabilities that plague China, it`s much more disciplined and it`s military utterly humiliates Chinas in terms of capabilities and combat readiness.
>>55576830
when your focus is social justice instead of technological primacy those limitations really start to show
>>55576862
I mean, take a look at their J-20.
The supposed ''peer'' of F-22.
Yes, those are Soviet Mig-29 engines smoking there.
>>55576714
>In time PLA will turn in to police-force - it`ll still have its hilarious J-31 and other toys but they`ll be meant as a deterent for Japan.
China's police force is already much larger and is well equipt for policing rather than the PLA which will always be a last line of defence of CPC rule.
>>55576919
The focus has never been on social justice. Our economy is the largest it has ever been. It is just that Britain is not a huge country and thus no matter how large the economy gets as long as the large countries are not doing something absolutely absurd their GDP will always be more than ours.
>>55576919
>herp technology can progress forever
>>55576862
>It`s got none of the vulnerabilities that plague China
no, it has a decaying population riddled with degenerates who refuse to breed
>it`s military utterly humiliates Chinas in terms of capabilities and combat readiness.
assuming this is right, the chinese military still wins purely on numbers. and it's not right. japan hates its military and desperately wants to return to the business of masturbating to cartoons
>>55577022
Look at Japan's score.
>>55577075
fucking fins. how did the swedes end up such faggots with based neighbors like that?
>>55577022
>>55577075
China also had demographic problem ahead of it.
China's working age population will, perhaps as soon as the mid 2020s, be unable to support it's large retired worker population.
In another decade or so, people will be as embarassed about all the nonsense spewed and published about China's 'rise' as they were about Japan's aborted 1980s rise. The word "superpower" was coined to describe great powers whose reach and dominance extended beyond just one or two sector. Superpower is infact, by it's intent, an adjectiveless word. There is no such thing as a __________ superpower. The second you fill in that blank, you define down the word, when in fact, it demands tremendous, nigh unobtainable number of leadership positions, to achieve it.
>>55577197
Finland is probably chock full of grandparents telling everyone about their heroic antics during the winter war. Obviously that doesn't apply in Sweden.
>>55577250
China is still fundamentally a peasant society. If they simply lift restrictions the peasants will breed massively again.
>>55577250
>There is no such thing as a __________ superpower.
> regional superpower
which is what china is, and japan isn't
whatever else japan may have, their animal spirits are long gone. all is left are selfish children who want to masturbate to cartoons and play vidya
>>55577250
A country of 2 million worries about a country of 1.5 billion.
>>55577341
Also, the only reason they dominated in the first place was being an industrial country in a place with no other industrial countries.
>>55577250
(cont)
The United States is the world's only superpower, and it isn't even close and it isn't close to changing. That bares repeating because that dominance is not just military. It's not just economic. It's not just political. It's not just being top on some selective set of charts (when we're middle on other selective sets). To be a superpower, you need to be big first, average or above average (or good compared to most of the world) at most things, tops in a very few number of super important things, and control the major leavers of international power. And on top of that you have to have freedom of action internationally.
No one else has these things. No one else is even close to obtaining these things. Not now, not a decade or two from now.
The China hype misses the most important fact about superpower-dom - it's actually only possible for some subset of the human race to be "first among equals" at the assent of the others. The US superpower-dom comes in no small part, from the legitimacy it derives from it's massive network of alliance and interconnected global relationships that enable it. It's very beneficial (and not to mention cost effective) for most of the human race, especially the part that calls the US it's friend, for the US to shoulder the burden of being the guarantor of order (and legitimacy) of the international system. It's a bi-directional relationship. The US (or any superpower) requires that assent, but there is no global system that is legitimate without it's participation.
>>55577075
>>55577022
You underestimate Japan.
By 1945, it was the most lunatic and devoted and capable military in the world next to US and USSR.
It changed in a matter of 5 years to passive and meek country.
That will happen again as China, pushed by it`s insecurities, develops maritime capabilities.
Japan will be compelled to act. And fast.
Also, forgot chart.
>>55577075
I expected Sweden to be much lower.
>>55577389
Japan is far too gone to ever compete with China as anything other than an economic power. The Japanese won't by the way, because they have had 70 years of telling them how evil being a soldier is.
>>55577421
>Expecting Swedes not to want to die to protect Ahmed
>>55577364
I worry about the future. Especially being a small country and nation.
It`s us - small states and nations - that usually disappear under the movements of tectonic plates (geopolitical shifts and events).
>>55577453
>Expecting Swedes not to want to die to protect Ahmed
do you guys take bantz courses in college or something?
>>55577456
You fucking niggers need to lernu english and join America if you don't want to get swallowed by China.
>:(
>>55577453
>Japan is far too gone to ever compete with China as anything other than an economic power. The Japanese won't by the way, because they have had 70 years of telling them how evil being a soldier is.
What are you talking about?
Their Air Force is much more capable, they actually have advanced Navy which operates in the network centric warfare concept.
Yes, it`s society has been taught to act in certain way.
That.will.change. It has to. Nations and countries don`t choose X or Y - they are compelled to protect themselves and their interests.
China very much endangers Japans maritime trading lanes. They will rebuild their supercarrier fleet sooner rather than later.
Same goes with their submarine wing.
>>55576714
>They grow it to avoid unemployment
Implying the west doesn't, it does. Its the economic model of western civilization, grow, to pay for bread and circuses
>>55577663
You can have all the technology you like but if your soldiers do not want to fight it is a pointless effort and Japan is now a nation of cowards. They cannot be seen as serious contenders to anyone, they would lose any battle simply down to their cowardice.
>>55577341
>> regional superpower
Isn't a thing. minor power > regional power > great power > superpower
if someones a "regional superpower", what you meant to say is they are a great power.
>>55577075
Proves how effective the demilitarization campaigns in Japan and Germany were.
>>55577075
other than finland, that's like a list of which countries are shittiest in descending order
why are people who live in third world toilets more patriotic than people who live in first world paradises?
>>55567305
economic dominance in what shitty made items and poos in loo try better bait op
>>55578374
The people of rich countries only care for themselves. The people of poor countries are not individualistic in that way.
>>55577075
Korea stronk!
>>55567305
>Seriously, the Eurofags don't have any plans on how to change this.
I like how you have purposely left out the EU
Top lel
>>55567305
So how is China going to handle all this growth?
If it wastes it (ghost cities), then it won't really grow.
If it spreads the wealth, then it will have a larger middle class that won't put up with their government. There will be unrest.
Also, if this growth doesn't come at the expense of anyone, it will come at the expense of resources that are peaking. Nature won't have it.
If it comes at the expense of someone, then there will be conflict.
It's a forecast. There are many forces that can put the kibosh on that kind of growth.
>>55578479
I lived in mexico for quite a while. they seemed pretty individualistic.
What about sweden. don't they all focus on taking care of each other more than taking care of themselves?
>>55578567
>the eu is a country
>>55577075
I doubt Bulgaria, with it`s long history of kebak slaying and being dominated by them, actually feels this way. I think it`s much, much higher.
>>55578701
That is just a meme. Swedes do not actually care about each other.
>>55578760
EU is a federation of national states in the same way the US is a federation of states. Both have similarities in federal law: US supreme court/EU supreme court. Both have similar levels of autonomy given to member states over what they can and can't do. US states can't leave. EU states can leave. US has elections on state and federal levels. EU nations have elections on national and federal Eu level.
It's really quite similiar.
>>55578649
>It's a forecast
It`s bullshit. The end.
They`ve been saying since early 00`s that China would overtake US. Every year since 2008, that year has been pushed further and further away.
You have nothing to worry about America.
That said, I`d prepare for the next systemic crisis that will hit you in late 2020`s (coupled by short-term gap in the Navy which will make you vulnerable for a year or two).
But as it always happens - US starts/causes the crisis but it`s also the first one that emerges from it as survivor and a victor.
When US catches cold, the world catches pneumonia.
>>55578760
>We can compare nations of 50/60 million people with countries of 1 billion people
Funny how the US gets BTFO by a European Union which is much closer to their population than the individual EU states.
>>55578970
>EU is a federation of national states in the same way the US is a federation of states.
I'd argue that sharing a language, national goals and a national history sets the US aside
Does france care how citizens of the UK are doing?
In the US this isn't even a question since no one makes these state-by-state calculations. Either the US is doing well or it isn't
>>55578649
They are moving to consumption based economy. They plan to relay less on investments and replace the high growth rates with lower/more modest ones.
>>55569233
When measuring living standards yes but not when measuring economic dominance. The USA is a superpower; Liechtenstein and Monaco are not.
>>55567305
Europe is dead, thats the true.
Most of them are now fags, cowards, betas or effeminate. No way they can back to be what they are in their glorious days.
Probably all west europe will be like Sweden in 50 years.
Only the eastern europe have some chance
>>55578970
They are the same only on paper. In reality, it`s two different things.
I personally dislike EU. I dont give a shit about Greeces problems just as Greece doesnt care about Eastern Europe and it`s problems with Russia.
EU has 28 defense, finance etc ministers.
US has one of each.
Balancing EU is a nightmare and that will be the reason it`ll collapse. US has no such weaknesses. It`s one country, one nation.
EU is 28 countries that have long historical memories that are quite bitter and who hate each other.
>>55579117
double the population and 5% more of GDP. I'd expect a majority white continent to achieve population-to-gdp parity
I'd give you a slow clap but I'd drop by burger
>>55567305
>chinese
>dominance
Top kek, the fuckers even owe the UK money. They dominate 3rd world shitholes and that's about it
Even going by per capita GDP China is predicted to close the gap with the first world by 2060.
https://www.google.co.uk/publicdata/explore?ds=n4ff2muj8bh2a_#!ctype=l&strail=false&bcs=d&nselm=h&met_y=GDPPCP&fdim_y=scenario:1&scale_y=lin&ind_y=false&rdim=world&idim=country:CN:GB:US:JP:DE:IN:NG:BR&ifdim=world&hl=en_US&dl=en_US&ind=false
>>55567945
Arabic.
>>55579778
The true one
(500h on paint)
>>55577075
Tells me nothing brah. Source? Did they ask around 10 people from each country? Never know with this sketchy shit.
>>55579222
trips for truth
>>55567415
chawîl ti
