useful idiot for marxism take over of america
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zmji36q8E4o
A painful exchange with a young student who's organizing for free public colleges, cancellation of all student debt and $15/hour minimum wage for all campus employees. She doesn't really know how to pay for it, unfortunately.
watching this causes severe physical pain
Lol. Neil is merciful in that he cuts her off when she starts rambling incoherently.
>Fox
>>55565717
Fox Business is actually a separate entity from Fox News.
>>55565349
>How is that gonna be paid?
>I MEAN.... UHHHHHH
Dropped right there. Not gonna watch this cringe worthy shit.
Sending some dumb progressive bitch up against Cavuto seems kind of unfair. She probably doesn't have any actual background in economics.
>>55565349
So basically she's leading OWS 2.0?
You would think college students would have learned after that fuck up.
>>55565349
She actually had to discuss her views and she couldn't do it. I couldn't even watch through the first question, it was that bad.
>>55565880
She's LEADING the protest. This is their spokesperson.
>>55565349
Yeah, this was brutal.
Even if the whole thing is a bit misguided though, I do think the protests have some merit as far as college costs go. The fact that most universities cost $20,000+ a year is just insane. If they had brought someone on the show who wasn't a complete drooling moron they could've held their own as his questions were 100% predictable (it's fucking fox news, not exactly the best and brightest).
e.g.
>Where will the money come from?
>We want to hold the colleges accountable for their own inflated pricing.
simple as that. not to imply that it would do anything but it makes more sense for the 'movement'.
>>55565349
>so how much do we need to be taxing the 1%? we're already taking about 50% of their wealth for crying out loud!
does this guy realize how much money we're talking about? it is not comparable to taking 50% of your income. you could tax these guys 90% and they would still live a life of extreme opulence. we're talking about billionaires here. 10% of a billion dollars is 100 million dollars.
>there are people on /pol/ right now, that are unironically against the idea that every man who works a 40 hour a week job deserves a comfortable wage
Neil is great but his crackly voice drives me fucking insane
And the girl represents today's liberal idiots
All of em
They are fucking idiots
>>55566059
>most universities cost $20,000+ a year is just insane
but they dont though. most state colleges are not that expensive unless you're a non-resident. even then, its only until you establish residency.
>>55565349
The hilarious part?
This chick, who is straight out of Idiocracy, is a LEADER for these fucking people!
>>55565349
you're watching fox tho?
>>55566086
You won't like this world when the billionaires are taxed to non existence.
That SJW can now truly claim to be a victim, because she just got raped on live television.
>>55565349
>that raspy throat cancer voice
I wish I sounded like that
>>55566299
It's horrible!
He has throat cancer?
Am I the only retard here who does not really get what are they talking?
>>55565349
he didnt really make any real arguments just emotional manipulation. if you cant divorce the individual from the whole you shouldnt talk politics
>>55566335
no idea, but I imagine someone with throat cancer sounding like that
>>55566299
>>55566381
>What are allergies,
>What are colds
I expected better, Austria
>>55566362
He was asking her VERY simple questions.
She kept spouting "MUH 1% MUH CORPORATIONS"
If she had her way, they would be bitching about no more iPhones.
Or HD cameras.
Or MacBooks
How would they retweet and reblog their encounters with the police?
>>55566381
>>55566335
>>55566299
He was out for a while some time ago. Similar thing his throat was fucked up.
If anyone was wondering about concrete numbers, I came up with 2.4 trillion revenue if you were to tax the 1% at a 100% effective tax. For comparison the federal budget is 3.7t with 3.2t actually paid, the other 0.5t is debt.
I am annoyed by the "you couldn't pay for medicare for three years" line from Cavuto, it is stupid and cheapens his point. Why would you care about funding 3x a program instead of annually funding it? Just stick to relevant comparisons.
>>55566362
Are you kidding?
This girl is a bonafide idiot
He raped her
>>55566104
Don't be an idiot with your finances and you can work comfortably with 40 hours a week, you dumb liberal.
>>55566418
What are he sounds like this year round
He has something but not allergies or cold
>>55566559
Maybe he has bad acid reflux. Because that can irritate your vocal chords over time.
>>55566335
>>55566299
He did have cancer and has MS.
Wow. This bitch goes to my college. I swear it's getting worse here every day; we just had a group of students block a train to protest adjunct wages.
>>55566346
Probably yes.
You're a namefag after all.
>>55565349
>incredibly working class
>>55565349
"How the hell will that be paid for?"
"UM BUT WE SHOULD LIKE STEAL THE MONEY FROM RICH BECAUSE LIKE MY FEMINISM CLASSES ARE LIKE SO TOTALLY EXPENSIVE"
>>55566647
Oh shit
Thanks anon
>>55565349
>implying free education and destruction of jewish usury is bad
just because some sjw retard wants those things doesn't mean they're bad, and the usa could easily pay for those things if we stopped bombing goat fuckers half a world away
>>55566499
he was just educating her, how much a service that already exists costs and that the 1% could barely pay for that one, let alone all the other shit she was envisioning for the glorious soviet republic of america.
>>55565349
Literally Fremdschämen
>>55566273
>taxed to nonexistance
my point is exactly that taxing billionaires does not injustice them in a significant way. do you have any actual reasons why you disagree, or is this just some ideology you've subscribed to?
>>55566059
Most colleges don't cost 20k+ unless you live there. You need to separate education cost and living cost at the very least. The primary reason why college cost has gone up is because the gov pays for it.
I want a bigger house for free. Shall in protest?
I'm telling you if I didn't have a family, job and responsibilities , I would be literally fucking these people up physically
>>55566728
>he was just educating her
AND IT WAS FREE!
YEAH ABSOLUTELY!
Keely Mullen - Racial Justice Intern
ACLU
>>55566104
>there are people on /pol/ right now, that are unironically against the idea that every man should get paid for their skillset, not the amount of work.
>>55566726
Whenever something is free it ends up being used recklessly. College should cost money because it increases the chance that only people who have a good reason to go there will go. For people who are too poor but smart enough to study a useful degree, there should be more scholarships.
>>55565349
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_rising_terminal
I hate people who talk this way. Like this cunt.
It's a shame she's such a liberal dumbass with no grasp of common sense because she's quite attractive.
>>55566499
well the point is still in theoretical zone only because with 100% tax rate companies would close instantly
Oh my god how was she not prepared for questions like that?
>>55566768
>my point is exactly that taxing billionaires does not injustice them in a significant way.
Taxing billionaires lowers the amount of investment that they can make.
Also is it fair to us that paid for college? Do we get money too? Fuck these faggot millenials. Horrible parenting
>>55565349
What is Bernie's answer to the Capital Flight his tax policy will cause if implemented?
>>55566912
Attractive? Wow mAn
She is fugggggggs
>>55566273
why do people actually believe this?
his point was that even if we did tax a billionaire at 90% (we never will) they're still taking home a 7+ figure salary regardless.
as an example, let's say we implemented a flat tax of 25%. 25% of $1,000,000 is $250k. they still have 750k left over. in both cases, they are living a ridiculously lavish lifestyle and can afford whatever the fuck they want. 25% of $20,000, on the other hand, is $5k. that amounts to rent for an entire year in many places, you could buy a used car, you could invest in education and pay off a years tuition at a state school. THIS is why arguing against a progressive tax is just ridiculous.
and for the record, i make 6 figures as a software salesman so no, i'm not "lookin for free shit". i'm just not a cocksucking faggot that worships the ground trustfund babbies walk on.
GET
REKT
EVERY LINE
>>55565752
Fox Business is actually not that bad either, they did pretty well with the debate too, imo.
>>55566989
Same as Trump's. Except the wall will be to keep us all in.
>>55566086
The 1% cut off is 400k/yr, and you do not know how much money you are talking about.
>>55566853
I swear she represents the minority at Northeastern. Makes me so embarrassed to go here right now.
>>55567059
Faghit
>>55566992
M8 have you seen English girls?
>>55567023
>his point was that even if we did tax a billionaire at 90% (we never will) they're still taking home a 7+ figure salary regardless.
But what would be the fucking point of making hundreds of millions of dollars if it's just going to be given to NEETs and shitskins?
>>55565349
As a 35 year old white male with absolutely no debt at all, i would go on a fucking rampage if ever a time came where all debt was wiped clean by law. I went without so much shit in my 20s because i did not want to be in debt. My friends now act like i just do not understand their struggle trying to make ends meet when i show off my new TV or now decent car. I point out that when we were 23 i was the only one of us who did not get a brand new car and big screen tv on credit. They try to say shit like i am lucky i don't have debt, like their desire to go back to school for some bullshit office education shit at age 28 on a student loan was just a spout of bad luck...... I just shake my damn head.
>>55566775
quick google search:
>According to the College Board, the average cost of tuition and fees for the 2014–2015 school year was $31,231 at private colleges, $9,139 for state residents at public colleges, and $22,958 for out-of-state residents attending public universities.
the cheapest we are talking is still $10k on average, which assumes you have a state school near where you live (many do not) and either way is still a ton of money and would require a loan for most americans.
the thing that irks me about it is the point of college loans isn't for the financial institutions on the back end to make a profit, it is to invest in our country's future and give opportunities to young people so we don't raise generations of 99% dumbass laborers in an age where we don't have to anymore, and we would benefit on the world stage by giving them said opportunities. the whole system seems ass-backwards to me for that reason.
>>55565349
>incredibly working class
>>55567096
Lol!!!!!! Nice brother
This is the epitome of our generation, entitled, spoiled brats who want more for less work. It's fucking maddening.
I feel like I can't talk about this with anyone my age without them bringing up "the 1 percent" or "wage gap" ect.
>>55567126
>welfare queen myth
gtfo of your echo chamber you mouthbreathing retard
>>55565349
There's no marxism in murrica, stop obsessing about that boogeyman and get gasing the kikes
How do we pay for the bloated military, Medicare, Social Security and all the other socialisms Republicans like?
>>55566086
It's more like 40% total tax tops. The primary reason why you don't want to tax the rich is because the rich are generally the best at managing money wisely.
>>55566940
its not like those billionaires literally got a billion dollars in their bank account either.
this 1% refers to property and thats stuff like land, real estate and company shares.
you wont get at that money through taxation and you cant just expropriate those people either.
so how should they pay for the college education of an entire country like that?
>>55567126
Lol this software salesman is out of his mind
It's called socialism and always leads to
Zero
Incentive to do well
Fools
All of them
>>55567147
>world stage
>dumbass laborers in an age where we don't have to anymore
>>55567192
Bernie Sanders voter detected.
>>55567204
>Medicare, Social Security
Dems put those in.
>>55567227
>can't refute the argument so he just spouts a facebook comment-tier meme
yeah, go ahead and kill yourself
>>55567244
You implying all the tards bashing this dumb girl don't want those goodies?
>>55567222
>cherrypicking parts of a whole paragraph out of context
sounds about right, i know that reading is hard for you kids
>>55567250
Is he right tho Bernie?
>>55565349
>already a leech
>wants more free shit
liberals everyone
>>55567250
So...DO you plan to vote for Lord Jew? Just curious.
>>55567023
I can respect this
>>55567278
Yeah we don't you fucking faggot
I work for what I have you degenerate millenial shit fuck
>>55567309
Imagine this coming from Canada?
You people are WEAK
>>55567208
>>55566940
>muh trickle down
that shit is literally listed as examples of bullshit in textbooks these days. it's the young earth creationism of economics.
https://books.google.com/books?id=xoztFMavGCcC&pg=PA29&dq=mankiw+charlatans+and+cranks&hl=en&ei=mVV9Tv2pMera0QGNvpkd&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result#v=onepage&q&f=false
>charlatans and cranks
Plenty of countries have managed with far worse tax burdens. But please continue to act like it is some kind of win everything master stroke argument.
>>55567250
>not using actual figures
>using a non-disclosed analysis
>citing yourself as the source
>>55567373
So...DO you plan to vote for Lord Jew? Just curious.
>>55565349
top fucking kek
This is just an average kike asking "hurr how u gon pay fo dis" and an average sjw not being able to answer.
The US probably waste a hundred more than the money required for free college on useless shit. It'd be easy to fund.
>>55567373
I am 100 percent sure you are a millenial white jew
Right?
>>55567288
>>55567296
it's irrelevant to the conversation. like i said, you can't refute the fact that most entitlements go to working/elderly/disabled families, so your argument that wages are being funneled to a wasted segment of the population is bullshit and you know it. nice try to derail the conversation though, you'd fit in nicely in american politics.
It's painfully obvious that she's parroting shit her professors have said with little to no understanding of real world implications.
Good little robot.
>>55567373
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U3BOg4U1R_I
>economics
>real science
Keynesian models are still held as the gold standard of economic models yet they've never once been correct.
>>55567441
Yeah Bernie faggot detected
Get a job you loser
>>55567441
So...DO you plan to vote for Lord Jew? Just curious.
>>55567023
way to kill your countries economy einstein.
So a CEO pays 90% taxes in America? Well he wont be an american CEO unless he can avoid it thats for sure.
Whats that you say? The company is forced to pay their CEOs 1000% more to keep them interested now? Well good luck staying competitive with those kind of wages. Guess we need to lower business tax to compensate.
Hey where did all the extra money go we wanted to use for free education?
Does no one realize that the cunt in the video is anti-liberal, btw ?
Why are american political labels so fucking retarded ?
>>55567431
i am >>55566059
>can't answer the argument
>resorts to meaningless ad hominem
underage kids please gtfo
>>55565349
you can literally hear her brain short circuiting
>>55565717
All news is shit.
Point and laugh at where its made, you're spoilt for choice.
This video though has no Fox-isms to speak of.
This guy just asks a question, and then lets her talk.
My favorite bit was at the very start, he just shoots straight after the introductions "So what do you want?"
and you see her mentally scrambling like a deer in the headlights looking for its script of buzzwords.
I think the saddest thing about Youth is the inability reflect and see ones own stupidity.
>>55567210
a billion dollars is so much money that if you took away 90% of it, you would still have 10 times as much money as you'll ever see in your life. a billion dollars is too much money for one person to have, especially when there are people who have nothing. if it turns out that the majority of that billion is spread out in investments, then fine. cash out. somebody else will buy in.
>>55565349
>The US is the bastion of success and capitalism!
>It'll totally stay that way if we tax top earners at 70%!
Fuck me sideways, this cunt is insufferable
She is a student?
Dear lord, its people like this why i purposefully hire people who have actually had to work hard where they got to, without a degree. .
Basically all graduates are lazy and incompetent and majority female.
Also only hire majority men and Europeans.
>>55567147
That $10k figure only applies to tuition. It doesn't apply to room and board, books, or even admin fees. Throw in admin fees and that's another $2000. Room and board is going to run between $3000 and $7000 anually. Books will add another 600 per semester.
>>55567574
But that is the Bernie Sanders argument in a nutshell.
>Rich people are unfairly enriched by banks and tax policy!
>Change how banks operate and how taxes are structured to take money from rich people!
Hey! Why is so much money headed to Switzerland and the Cayman Islands???
>>55567208
>rich is because the rich are generally the best at managing money wisely.
...for themselves. They don't invest it properly, they only leech off the economy.
If anything we should subsidize college for anyone who wants it, this way there is still some sacrifice and personal investment for those who want to go to college and its not something people just mindlessly do after high school. Similarly we should also do a better job of promoting trades and offering training for them. In most cases I think it's a lot better to go into a trade than get a stupid major you aren't at least passionate about.
I also think if this were to happen that community colleges should be expanded to focus on general ed and intro level classes then students can transfer to a university once they know what subject they want to focus on. I majored in computer science at a pretty good college and while I definitely feel like I got a superior education in that regard there is no real advantage in spending so much money on general education classes that you literally will never use.
>>55567538
Where would the money come from Einstein?
Fuck off with your socialistic desires.
You are for 15.00 and hour too
I hate you
>>55567538
You're probably like 20 right? And calling out "underage" people and saying he's using ad hominem when all he did was guess right that you are a young jew. Do you see how stupid that is?
>>55566860
>you try working at McDonald's for a week. You'd quit and leave a trail of tears. Just because it's not a skilled job doesn't mean it's not a tough job.
>>55567639
Because they're mentally ill and woud rather watch their country burning than lose 10% of the money they don't even use.
They shipped talking points at one another for 10 minutes. It looks like another "debate" where the winner is whoever you agreed with beforehand.
>>55567572
I fucking detest you socialistic millenials
You need to be taught a lesson physically and have the liberalism beat out of you
>>55567682
I worked in a fast food place for a year and quit once I got a better job. It's tough work but it's not meant for 40+ year olds.
>>55567250
>ou can't refute the fact that most entitlements go to working/elderly/disabled families, so your argument that wages are being funneled to a wasted segment of the population is bullshit
What? Being elderly, disabled, or having some zero sum job doesn't mean you aren't a waste of space. I know of plenty elderly, disabled, and working people who are a waste of space. Shit, I'm related to some of them. In the past, my disabled relative would have been put in a fucking asylum rather than sucking up thousands of taxpayer dollars per month. In the past, elderly people would have been taken care of by their families or died. In the past, low level workers didn't get to supplement their income with a dozen forms of welfare in order to afford stupid luxuries.
Seriously, most disabled people are fucking useless crazies and idgaf about anyone's grandparents other than my own.
>>55567724
Can I live in the 10% of your house you don't use? I can build a nice room in your attic. Pay rent? Fuck you. You aren't using it. PAY IT FOR ME, SHITLORD!
>>55566037
Okay, thats really sad
>>55565349
She is representative of the intelligence level of 90% of millenial college kids. Ask them any basic question about economics or geopolitics and their eyes glaze over. Literally all they know how to do is retweet and spout Bernie memes. It's funny to laugh at them now, but we're on the brink of having an entire generation of Americans who GENUINELY expect to never have to pay off their debts or work a job outside their comfort zone or make any real attempt to climb the ladder of success.
As a 30 year old homeowner who has been working since 14, with a wife who just paid off her student loans (state school, zero help with tuition due to lower middle class white privilege), and is pregnant with our first child, it genuinely terrifies me to imagine what this country will look like 10-20 years from now. It feels as though we're barreling toward the tipping point.
>>55567589
What kind of experience/skills do you look for in a prospective employee? I'm considering dropping out of my course and either learning a trade or getting a job in a field with a lot of room for upwards mobility, because I'm sick of having to spend every waking hour surrounded by intellectuals and their holier-than-thou leftist bullshit.
>>55567661
>boohoo I hate you
Woman-tier rhetorics
>>55567679
Well said fellow adult
>tfw applied for a scholarship and got it and had so much money left over each semester i bought a car, a new pc, and a some hookers
>tfw straight white male 4.0 gpa
>tfw everyone else on scholarship is a dumb nigger
>tfw nigger case manager laughs when i walk into the room and tells me how awful all the other students are
>tfw only person in the program to graduate
>>55566299
>bad cough
>go to music event/yell drink orders
>next day voice fucked up
>get compliments from all the women
felt pretty good
>>55567639
numbers are a couple of years old, but still very much relevant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=661pi6K-8WQ
>>55567126
>no incentive to get rich
Which is more attractive, earning $1,000,000/yr and being taxed 25% or earning $50,000/yr and being taxed 0%? I'll give you a minute to think about it
>>55567278
They aren't a left or right issue. Everyone will want it. Kids don't think about it because they currently won't get it, but they definitely will once they get older.
>>55567805
Ah man I love your story
I was there too
Feels
Amazing
Keep up the fight and beat down libs
>>55566086
He's being a cunt on purpose.
He knows that the fitty percent is only the maximum they can be taxed not the anount of money they actually pay.
She could have literally just said we want to cap rebates for the richest muricans and coporations so general electric can't make 16 billion in rebates off the tax payer while people spend 50 years paying off student loans.
>>55567809
Says a fag from France
Basically you are a woman
>>55566726
>Free women's studies
>Free African culture
>Free feminist classes
Universities will make useless college courses like the one's listed above to soak in more money. Putting college back in the free market will slash all of the useless stuff, and make it prestigious again.
>>55567732
you have any reasoning behind that opinion, or is this just your ideology?
>>55567787
I didn't take your labor to pay for my house.
Plus I need it. Isn't property a basic right in the US ? I don't think swimming in a sea of shekels is, though, especially if you jewed those shekels from someone else's work.
Get your shit together. Why are you shilling for those people ? Are you one of them or something ?
Or do you think that since you're a "conservative" (please define it) you have to defend your masters like a good goy even though no one benefits from it ?
What about common sense ?
>>55567753
Of course not. It's a transitional job. Only retards don't understand this.
>>55567853
Lol!!! 25%
I'll give you a minute to think about that
>>55567950
Sure, I'm a woman. I guess that means I'm fit to scold a baby like you.
>>55565880
She has no background in actual life.
>>55567853
Those are some amazing math skills you have there junior.
>>55567679
i'm 27, VP of sales at a software company, salary is 105k a year + commission/bonuses.
try again kiddo.
once again though, i've been arguing ONLY the points for most of the thread, you guys are just derailing it when you can't refute it by saying "hurr durr you must be voting for bernie sanders and a millennial". fucking pathetic.
>>55566853
the cunt has been a Social Justice Intern with ACLU and been on this organizing job for 11 months but never thought about the numbers
all this straight outta Barry O's playbook
Hussein Obamby's resume: community organizer in chicago. ideal: saul alinsky(rules for radicals), mentor: frank marshall davis, pals: bill ayres and bernadine dohrn. commie rat face jws
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saul_Alinsky
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals#Later_influence
>>55567958
Just from experience
Millenials are faggots and need a beating
Prolly would start with you t bh
My favorite part was when she said the top 1% are hoarding all the monies.
These idiots and their zero sum bullshit.
Pay for what? In Chapter 7 bankruptcy, the debt just goes away, and so does your credit score if you had one.
I don't see any compelling reason why student loan debt should be exempted from Chapter 7 bankruptcy filings, but it is. Can someone tell me why the question, "But how will it be paid?" is raised for student loans but not for a defaulted mortgage, credit card debt, or a car note?
Explain.
>>55568004
Ok so you admit it
Tres Bien
>>55568041
I'm 45, a board member for 5 different companies, and have a business I co founded with one of my childhood best friends.
Try again kiddo.
>>55568041
Sanders for president
>>55567057
Its basically the news but at a higher level of discourse. They don't dumb down economics or relate everything to 'how does this affect Obama?'.
>>55568058
>I care about your opinion on millenials
by the opinion of yours I was referring to was the one about taxes
>>55567682
>implying I've never worked fast food
>implying I've never worked retail
I've worked at steak n' shake, Kroger(Both Deli and bagging), and I've been through the army.
You shut the fuck up and get some useful skills instead of being a panty waste flipping burgers you useless little shit.
>>55568095
How desperate, yet lazy.
Girl is cute.
>>55568068
>I don't see any compelling reason
Because they're given to pretty much anyone. For prospective students, it's not like they have a credit report to show. Unless they cosign with their parents. Mortgages, credit cards, and various loans don't work that way. You can't get any other kind of loan for, say, 50K with no credit history let alone a bad one.
>>55566362
figures a faggot government dick sucker communist would say some shit again this video...
no emotional manipulation took place.. questions were straight forward and simple
How do we feel about a flat tax of 28.5% after $35,000 income with zero deductions other than
Private Retirement Fund investments: Max $20,000 per year
Children: 1.5% Reduction per child up to maximum for 5 children (Intentionally regressive to encourage richer people to have more kids than poorer people)
>>55568162
Go back and read my thoughts about taxes
We are taxed enough
All of us
Period
End
>>55567962
"TAKE"
"YOUR LABOR"
>TAKE
Get the fuck out of here, Schlomo. Labor is sold, not taken. If you don't like the price you're getting, re-negotiate, make yourself more valuable, or accept what a valueless piece of French cheese you are.
>>55568068
you can throw a person off course by raising that question
if they are too uninformed to answer with your chapter 7 answer plus some reasons then you don't even have to argue with them properly
if you raise this as the response then you will get some interesting responses and you can start to figure out what is possible or why do things work but she didn't even think about it
she fell into the trap and made herself unable to debate
that's just an easy way to win and a good strategy
that's why you ask that question
>>55568205
How gay
Yeah a pansy French faghit
>>55566853
>Racial Justice Intern
what the fuck is that.
What's going on with United States, even whites are chimping out, just in other way than nogs.
>>55568068
>I don't see any compelling reason why student loan debt should be exempted from Chapter 7 bankruptcy filings, but it is.
Because it keeps the interest rate low for students. Keep in mind that student loans are generally given to people with no income, no collateral and with questionable futures. Without something like exemptions from bankruptcy, the interest rates would be too high.
>>55568068
>a defaulted mortgage, credit card debt, or a car note?
The bank takes your home/car when you default. Credit cards have limits.
abolish useless liberal art degrees: all these women studies, sex, gender, equality crap. they should all be under social sciences, and must be limited. we need scientists, mathematicians and engineers at universities, not SJWs propagandists. generous scholarships for science and engineering, cut all these liberal art, humanities crap. don't like it go learn a real world skill.
>>55565880
>She probably doesn't have any actual background in economics.
You say this like that's not a prerequisite for joining the movement in the first place. Nobody with a basic understanding of economics and the history of socialism would ever agitate for the things this movement wants. She doesn't seem to realize that when you start taxing the super-rich at rates like the 90% she proposed, they will just leave the country, taking all of the wealth and job creation with them.
These children aren't going to be children much longer. They can already vote, and pretty soon some of them will by trying to gain a foothold in politics. They were funny when they were teenagers. Now they're concerning. Soon, they'll be dangerous.
>>55568068
When you default on your mortgage you lose the house and the bank resells it. When you default on your car the lender repossesses and auctions it. If you were able to default on your student loans and be completely in the clear after a few years then not one person would ever attempt to pay off their debt.
You also need a good credit score and and a job if you want to get approved for a home or auto loan, whereas anyone can take out a college loan for six figures without issue.
>>55568266
Property is a basic right in us! Lol
What a fucking pos he is
Die
This whole debate isn't about economics.
It's about philosophical and medical.
You can't be against free college because you're worried about the economy, it's total nonsense.
Why don't shills admit that they're happy about unequal opportunities ? Just say that you like the idea of people suffering through unnecessary shit. I don't know, you could say it forces them to surpass themselves or something. That's basically the only valid argument you could come up with.
Yet you stick with the myth that it's not economically feasible, even worse, you pretend the people who can't afford college right now are better off this way.
>>55568217
>Because they're given to pretty much anyone.
No they aren't. If you have bad credit, you can't get student loans, realistically. Look it up. Now, car loans, on the other hand...
>>55565349
IT'S GONNA BE HUUUUUGE!
>>55568328
i agree with this to the extent that scholarships should be mostly limited to those fields and students should be encouraged to pursue STEM in place of liberal arts.
it's still irrelevant to the discussion though because majoring in STEM costs just as much and still unnecessarily saddles the student into debt.
>>55568356
Which is why we need to destroy them in any way. It has to happen. They are dangerous and will destroy the country
>>55568068
Fyi, the debt doesn't go away. Another student pays for its when you don't pay.
>>55568367
>You also need a good credit score and and a job if you want to get approved for a home or auto loan, whereas anyone can take out a college loan for six figures without issue.
No you don't. Used car dealers finance people with shit credit all the time.
I've always liked Neil. Him and Shepherd "GET OFF IT" Smith keep me watching Fox.
>>55568266
Your jealousy is showing.
Your country's entirely run by kikes and you're calling me Schlomo, how ironic is that ?
You know, we suffer just like you since we got jewed by the Marshall Plan, so why not cooperate ?
>>55565349
this girl is beyond unintelligent
>>55568449
No they don't. I don't see any other student's balance getting added to mine just because she defaulted.
>>55565880
>She probably doesn't have any actual background in economics
you think?
gee, lets demand all this money be spent without knowing how much we need, and where we demand it to come from
>>55568391
Ok I'm done
>>55568391
Small wonder France is headed for the bottom...
Look. This cunt and her fellow Bernie Sanders cocksuckers would, within a term, have debt at over 30% of GDP, probably. The CBO is shitting RIGHT NOW because it's threatening to go over 20%. This isn't about education or basic rights or justice. It's about destruction.
>>55567283
This guy never faced todays progressives.
>>55568261
>we are all taxed enough
that's fair, I agree with you on that. If somebody were proposing a practical alternative to taxation, I would get on board. for right now at least, we're stuck with taxes, and I don't think you and me deserve to pay the same amount as the ultra rich.
>>55566059
yes, simple questions
THAT SHE DIDN'T BOTHER TO RESEARCH!!
leftists
>>55568391
>unequal opportunities
>>55568356
>She doesn't seem to realize that when you start taxing the super-rich at rates like the 90% she proposed, they will just leave the country, taking all of the wealth and job creation with them.
see >>55567373
>>55567485
>thinks youtube refutes a textbook
kek. also i'm not advocating for a particular system of economic thought, i'm just pointing out that supply side economics is generally regarded as bullshit.
>>55568515
>>55568519
No argument, yup, you're done. You're willing slaves.
>>55568453
I'm not talking about Murray's Dindu Car Lot in the hood, I'm talking about buying or leasing from a legitimate volume dealer. But either way, you don't make your payments, you lose the car. It doesn't work that way with degrees.
>>55568391
>Yet you stick with the myth that it's not economically feasible
Provide me evidence of a country that has provided benefits like the ones described in the video, and which has not subsequently started hemorrhaging money.
>You can't be against free college because you're worried about the economy, it's total nonsense.
Why on earth would anyone be opposed to "free" college for any other reason? The problem is that nothing is ever free, it has to be paid for somehow. How do you propose we pay for it? And why do you think people oppose state-funded college if not for economic reasons? What, because they're stereotypical evil movie bad guys who just want to make poor people suffer?
Jesus Christ, France. You're being so fucking retarded right now I don't know what do do with myself.
>>55568328
>>55568328
When lazy millennials find out they can get a degree doing basically what they already do, crying about nonexistent racism on the internet, of course they're going to flock to it like flies to shit.
>>55568391
FRENCHIES OUI!
>>55565349
>>55565752
> separate entity
You're not allowed to say that about conservatives. Only liberals and designated victim groups are allowed to pretend there is any difference between the extremists and their supporters.
>>55568510
>How are interest rates calculated
>>55568534
Why not? It's all about being fair and since we are not ultra rich, that's tough shit.
Life is not equal and fair and never will be. The sooner these idiot milliberals find this out, the better
>>55565349
Man she is fucking retarded, its always good to see these marxist drones fall apart under even the most basic scrutiny.
Doesn't mean there isn't an argument against the obscene higher education system you have in murrica. Hell, she could have mentioned tax breaks, re-baits and expanded on the corporate buy outs the government regularly give to companies. Socialism is ok for failing business but not ok for poor people.
>The Greek criss was caused by socialism alone
>mfw
She is a moron but the fox guy's arguments are just as shallow.
>>55568453
>Used car dealers finance people with shit credit all the time.
$1 down places sell shit cars at low prices, charge high interest, and have an army of repo men. It's really not comparable to the typical student loan that puts people tens of thousands of $$$ in the hole.
>>55568570
The argument I made was not in favor of trickle-down economics. She wants to use the super-rich as a piggybank. When they leave the country, you can't tax them anymore. Who, then, will you tax to pay for free college?
How on earth did you conflate what I said with trickle down economics? Because I used the phrase "job creation?" Pay attention before replying next time, you genetic misfire.
>>55567644
Absolutely false. Rich people are rich because they created wealth. The act of converting useless raw materials into useful products is the creation of wealth from nothing. Without Apple, for instance, the world would be $670B poorer.
It's through the wealth creation process where people are employed to utilize their specialized skillset. Rich people do the world an enormous benefit by investing and facilitating in the wealth creation process by buying stocks, saving money in banks, and providing the capital required.
>>55568560
Shut up Britbong, your class system is the most stratified in the West.
If your parents finance your whole way through college but some other kid can't go at all because he's got poor parents, the only thing you did right was have the foresight to be born to the right parents. It says nothing about who you are, and everything about who your parents are. And if your grandparents financed your parents, which they probably did, then it just further vindicates that people stay where they're born forgoing either outright brilliance (for a move up) or being a total fuckup (for a move down).
Explain why anybody born into a low class should simply accept how unfair life is without some kind of rebuttal that probably involves breaking whatever rules or laws keep them in the position they're in.
>>55568570
What you're describing is neither what is in that textbook nor what anyone else is describing.
>>55566186
i go to virginia tech instate and i pay 20k a year. you dont know what youre talking about. most state colleges are at the point where they charge 20k instate now
>>55566269
https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/genetic
>>55566499
how long would YOU put up with being taxed at 100%?
wouldn't you just quit? or move abroad?
>>55566760
is that vicarious shame?
>>55565349
FUCKING
DESTROYED
>THIS IS THE PERSON THEY CHOSE TO REPRESENT THEIR MOVEMENT
>>55568714
Accept? Do something about it
Life isn't fair man and you know it
>>55568683
you responded to a point i made specifically to supply side economics. you are now just sidestepping the discussion, but more importantly the suggestion that rich people will suddenly pack up and leave because they now make $800k a year instead of $900k is silly and unfounded, and nothing more than a scare tactic. by your logic our country should've been a destitute socialist shithole during the eisenhower years.
>>55568714
>who was george green
You do know that the UK had, up until the 60s/70s, with the introduction of "equal opportunities" plans, was one of the most fluid social structures right?
>>55565349
did she REALLY say that taxing the 1% at 100% would be a good start?
these people are insane
>>55568851
No they are dumb
>>55566949
She mentioned in the video that all student debt would be forgiven. If you paid for it all up front than FUCK YOU you're probably a 1%er anyway.
Democracy was the biggest mistake in western civilization's history. I spit on all those who participated in the French revolution.
>>55568763
>how long would YOU put up with being taxed at 100%?
Bong mong, I am not advocating for the hur dur eat the rich position, I just wanted to show the actual numbers.
>>55568851
If you taxed them at 100% they wouldn't be the 1% any more
>>55568816
>800k a year instead of 900k
>90% tax
Check your math again.
>>55568893
>>55568809
Then stop complaining when someone riots and loots your store. You can't have "life isn't fair" on the one hand and "b-b-but it's uncivilized to rape/murder/steal to get what you want."
If "life is unfair" is sufficient justification for someone to be born into poverty while others are living in the lap of luxury, then "life isn't fair" is sufficient justification to take whatever you want by force, and it just means that whoever got stolen from or victimized is inferior to the person who fucked them up, ESPECIALLY if they were a richfag.
You can't have both "life is unfair" and "it's unfair to tax/rob/hurt me" at the same time. Just no.
>>55568954
All of you socialist and communist sympathizers go to hell with your dear comrade Lenin and Marx.
>>55568845
>i can think of one example
Not really a compelling argument.
>>55568816
>but more importantly the suggestion that rich people will suddenly pack up and leave because they now make $800k a year instead of $900k is silly and unfounded, and nothing more than a scare tactic
It's not a scare tactic. The french recently tried it and saw huge loads of rich people leaving france and moving to the uk. Nice how you use 800 and 900 when you want much higher tax numbers.
>>55567373
>that shit is literally listed as examples of bullshit in textbooks these days. it's the young earth creationism of economics.
Good thing no economist or conservative has ever uttered the words "trickle down economics" when refering to a policy, it's a liberal strawman of conservative positions.
Fucking retard.
>>55568992
>Just no.
>life isn't fair = it's okay to commit crime
#literally
>>55569051
>life isn't fair, you aren't entitled to fairness
>i am entitled to fair conduct on your part
#richfags
>>55568588
>Provide me evidence of a country that has provided benefits like the ones described in the video, and which has not subsequently started hemorrhaging money.
Neither happened because it's not POLITICALLY feasible. Doesn't mean it's not right, though.
>Why on earth would anyone be opposed to "free" college for any other reason?
Why on earth would anyone be opposed to gun owning rights for any other reason than security ? :^)
Seriously, why would people need to take huge loans to get an education now of all times ?
The people who are the most opposed to free tuition are throwing money at senators, journalists and what not for this kind of actual progress not to happen. Do you really think they want the economy to be healthy ? They only want their bank account to be healthy, and that's irrelevant when so many people are struggling to pay their tuition, rent, and sometimes even feed themselves when they could be assets for the economy to flourish.
Sure, some of this money would be wasted on shitty women's studies and other useless things, but we're talking about taking unused, stolen (from a moral standpoint) money from useless people to do that. What's the problem ?
>>55569083
>implying the poorfag is getting unequal conduct from notpoorfag
>>55568391
shouldn't you be busy surrendering?
why is there always some idiot frog sputing bullshit in these threads, or a swede
>>55565349
>using the term "marxism"
>posting a propaganda video where a dumb bimbo tries to argue politics
>bimbo STILL managed to present even a couple of fair points, despite the fact she seems unprepared and ill-informed
>still thinking that faux actually came on top this exchange
You're just a fucking tool.
The point is that there is no money be made in free education and insurance/welfare - like there is in the defense industry for example.
The US government literally handed over almost a trillion dollars to the financial institutions back in 2008. Where the fuck did that money come from? Out your mums ass?
As a side note, Hollywood could (and SHOULD) also be taxed to oblivion, especially since it's been shit for years.
>>55566104
Yes for hard labor and manufacturing, service jobs aren't real jobs.
>>55568992
No. Killing themselves would be the most moral thing, not hurting others.
>>55565349
>How's that going to be paid
>I-I UHHHH
Oh man, I dunno if I can watch all of that. How does this hole not know that it this would all get paid by raising taxes. Which obviously, anyone with a modicum of common sense would not want.
>>55566768
The point he's making is that if you tax billionaires at 90%, then no one wil have an incentive to become one. If that happens no more gibmedats for the left.
>>55569017
If there are idiot like that women who are still allowed to vote then to hell with you westerners. Western civilization has already fallen. It's a complete fucking irony innit that communist China is more capitalist than socialist west. Fuck the west go drown yourselves along with your dead civilization. To think that the Chinese will be the ones leading the world what complete fucking joke.
>>55569253
So, the US economy is not a real economy, and China is rightfully the #1 economic superpower in the world.
This is what you just admitted.
>>55569114
>Neither happened because it's not POLITICALLY feasible. Doesn't mean it's not right, though.
>Policy should be determined based on what sounds the nicest for everyone, and what I consider to be morally "right."
Dropped.
>>55568707
No, they don't create wealth, they redirect it to themselves.
Billionaires are merely the best opportunists. They show up, underpay actual inventors, workers, etc.. and then reap the most benefits they can.
Chop their heads off now and they'll be replaced with no problem, and the economy won't suffer. They are ultimately useless.
Apple is another thing. They artificially added value to something we were going to create and use anyway. Without Apple, we'd invest more in useful stuff. So we'd be richer. A few whiny psycopaths would be poorer, sure, but who cares ? They'd only have less money sleeping in offshore bank accounts. That wouldn't damage anything or anyone.
>>55566346
I wouldn't worry about it too much. She's in the same boat.
>>55568893
There hasn't been a democracy since the antiquity, what the fuck are you talking about ?
The french revolution was just about creating a power vacuum and filling it with jews.
>>55568714
>muh accident of birth
are you saying Ferraris should be subsidized, and mansions, swimming pools too?
poor people should be given vouchers for top brand whisky?
because it's not fair that others have more than you? even if they worked hard for it, or were cleverer, or more daring?
I dont think i can finish this
she is so cute
Aren't they a few options to relieve student debt? Forgive the debt, reduce the cost of education so loans aren't necessary for students, or stop requiring college degrees for entry level work. I agree with Mr. Fox that it would be unsustainable to force the public to pick up the college tuition bill for every student at current tuition rates, so let's think about the other two options.
Why does university cost so much now? It's getting more expensive every year at a rate that far exceeds inflation. They're not paying their athletes, lecturers aren't millionaires, and student workers making than minimum wage handle most of the day to day campus work.
Where the fuck is all the tuition money going?
Why are college degrees a hard requirement for most entry level positions now? Where did vocational programs go? Smells like a massive scam to me.
>>55569354
Yes, it's about being right. And making civilization progress, not making a handful of people fatter.
>>55568916
ah, fair enough bergersperger
withdrawn, also, sorry for not checking your digits
>>55565349
but but muh 1%.
Why are leftists such fucking bobble heads?
>>55568992
And I can kill you if you try. Come and get it.
>>55568707
It's hilarious that there are people in the world who believe this.
>>55568714
Don;'t you know goyim, the more shekels we have lying around, the more shekels will fly in! Call ALL my accountants.
>>55569495
Neil Cavuto is so sweet about it too, it's still hard to watch.
>>55566059
Look man the god damn so important status symbol should cost something.
>>55566059
>it's fucking fox news, not exactly the best and brightest
You sound like a faggot and your shit is retarded.
>>55565717
Fox Business isn't that bad, Fox News is fucking terrible.
>>55568707
>Rich people are rich because they created wealth
Others created their wealth for them.
There is no such thing as a "wealth creator".
Wealth is produced and circulated by the workers.
>useless raw materials into useful products is the creation of wealth from nothing
>useless raw materials
>useful products
>wealth from nothing
oh get fucked ffs
>>55569475
Top brand whisky isn't a necessity. Having access to education is.
Why do shills ALWAYS argue using shitty metaphors ? It's literal pub debate rherotics.
>>55566104
No god damn faggot I am against the idea that the nanny government is the best method to make that happen.
>>55569635
>implying you don't have access to education if you have to take out a loan
>>55566362
You leftist cunt there is no argument.
Wanting to know how it will be paid for is not an argument.
