What was Hitler's goal geopolitically? Obviously he wasn't trying to take over the world, but was he trying to take over Western Europe, or just places where German's were being prosecuted (like Poland)?
It was to breed Frauleins with all those Bolshevik soldiers, creating a new generation of mixed breeding. German men made up lies and called it "rape" when their wives flocked to the Russians, and the myth of "muh rapes!" began
Nazi Germany was literally the c uck nation
wanted to defeat france, get peace treaty with britain then attack the soviet union with japan
he only managed to defeat france, the rest of the plan failed
to make anime real
>>55552549
>>55552565
back to reddit homos
>>55552565
defeat France and absorb them into greater Germany or just to dissolve tensions?
Hitler was following the geopolitical theory developed by Halford John Mackinder , the father of geopolitics, who in 1904 postulated the idea that in order to control the world you need to establish dominance in asia. Britain and Russia had been more or less doing this for years in their "Great Game" as they fought over central asia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Geographical_Pivot_of_History
>>55552671
but wasn't, in the event of victory, China going to the Japs?
>>55552652
you can read about the territory germany forced france to give up in the peace treaty with the vichy governemnt
they just reclaimed the territory lost in ww1 i think
>>55552704
I said central asia not east asia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Game
That means places like Iran, Afghanistan, Khazakstan, etc not China.
If you can control that area you're so well entrenched that no one can take you on or successfully invade. You also control trade through the largest continent on earth. The only real threat is a naval empire like Britain (although now America) had which can be used to surround and contain a eurasian land empire.
>>55552507
France declared war not germany. Poland was killing germans in east prussia that's why hitler declared war. Even in 2015, any nation wouldve declared war over this in an heartbeat.
So I think he just wanted to deport all jews and invade russia
>>55552507
To ensure a supply of soft white batty for him and the SS
>>55552856
>Even in 2015, any nation wouldve declared war over this in an heartbeat.
Nah, nations have become much too pacifist.
>>55552856
>Poland was killing germans in east prussia
Absolute horseshit.
>>55553156
Yeah not impressed that you didnt learn that in poland.
>>55553326
We learned the truth, you learned propaganda.
>>55553421
>>55552507
Send all the good aryan males into a war they cannot win and make white people more hated.
Nazi germany was a jew ploy.
>>55552507
Pretty sure he initially only wanted to retake German cores and unite the German peoples.
>>55552856
>Even in 2015, any nation wouldve declared war over this in an heartbeat.
A country in the middle east might respond in such a way, but a western country attacking a neighbor in modern times? No. At least not direct, open warfare.
>>55553156
It's not absolute horseshit. Ethnic Germans in Prussian regions (which Poland received after WW1) were discriminated against by Polish civilians. There are many incidents of those people being attacked, before the war began. The government did nothing about it, and Hitler wasn't going to stand idly by as he kept hearing about those reports.
The classic argument is that Germany started WW2 to take back Danzig, which in itself makes sense, it originally didn't belong to Poland anyway, it was handed to them on a whim. But to add insult to injury, the Germans who still live there were now terribly vulnerable, left unprotected, under Polish rule. That's what pushed Hitler over the edge eventually, after months of trying to peacefully revolve the issue with countless diplomatic talks. It legitimately should've been transferred back to Germany, it's not warmongering to demand such a thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fscaDrb_7Rc#t=6m40s
But you could remain biased and deny it. Though that would make you just as stupid as Turks who deny the Armenian genocide.
>>55552507
>German's were being prosecuted
this shit again?
>>55552507
To my understanding, France, aswell as other European countries north and west of Germany where to be kind of Aryan Client states.
Each state aka Belgium France ect had to swear a oath to Hitler, and to serve him until wars end. Then they were to go home and operate their respective countries within a Nazi German framework.
I think they spoke of a Nordic nation or something, essentially it would be all of scandanavia Denmark, Greater Germany, and other Germanic peoples.
The Everything west of Germany would be somewhat Germanified client states. Italy would operate in similar fashion with Greece, Albania, North and East Africa, parts of Yugoslavia ect.
Hungary, Romania, Bulgaria would have been awarded land, however the Nazi's would have urged them extensively to racially purify their territories. Finland I think would have been absorbed by Germany despite promises of independence.
In the Soviet Union itself Baltic states where promised independence or at-least German patronage for their support against Bolshevism, so they probably would gain some land/authority.
I believe Baltic states would have been Germanified and absorbed eventually. Ukrainians would have received a status lower than that of Aryan but higher than Russian. I think they were to be a Germanified work in progress.
Russia itself settled wild west American style by Germans, and similar accepted races. The settlers where to be organized as "militant farmers" living in a private property commune, in which drills and training took place, yet homes where fairly individualistic.
Needless to say slave labor would probably be employed, and that the settlement, and building up of these Russian territories would in a way resemble the US confederacy, with plantations and labor mills ect.
A new religion was to be introduced and Germans were to have more and more kids.
>>55553733
>It's not absolute horseshit.
> Danzig, which in itself makes sense, it originally didn't belong to Poland anyway
Go eat a bag of dicks, you lying sack of shit.
He wanted to colonise the east to make germany self sufficient in terms of raw materials and food. Pretty much everything that Hitler did came from his experiences from ww1.
clay and to support the Nazi economic system
>persecution of ethnic germans
nice meme
He had been forewarned by visitors that there was another race living below the surface of the earth. Aware of how powerful they were, he sought about trying to unite and lead Europe in the coming battle. We all know what happened next, and we will all pay for it. All these sinkholes opening up now are no mere coincidence.
We should have listened.
>>55553762
this
it's common knowledge that the "persecution of germans" was a false flag.
of course, you won't find that in /pol/ infographics you fucking autists
>>55553968
"Common knowledge" on WWII
Like the holohoax and stuff?
>>55552507
>all germanICS under one hood, that includes the benelux, and scandinavia
>make the east Australia pre-independence, with slavs being the abos
>hegemoney over mainland Europe
>>55554003
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Runciman,_1st_Viscount_Runciman_of_Doxford
read up on his misson to czechoslovakia.
also let's not forget that Hitler used a false flag to attack Poland.
HITLER DIDNT DO NUFFIN HE EIN GUTT FUHRER, ONLY WANTED PEACE AND PROSPERITY UNTIL THOSE FILTHY POLACKS STARTED HOLOCAUSTING HELPLESS GERMAN CHILDREN!
>>55553968
But muh 3.5 oppression victims.
>>55552507
>What was Hitler's goal geopolitically?
To suck the biggest cock of all time, uncle Joe helped him achieve that
Hitler never wanted war. He was pulling the same shit Putin is now, taking land filled with German sympathizers, at most he wanted some of Eastern Europe, he never wanted a war with the west
>>55552507
>Germans prosecuted in Poland
>Persecution of Germans in Poland
Literally gas yourself if you actually believe this meme
>>55553904
Danzig was 90% populated by ethnic germans who repeatedly asked to return to the Reich for 20 years. They were ignored and mistreated by poles until Hitler decided to stop them.
Ignorant little shitstain.
>>55553968
Bullshit. Nobody ever talks about this. If by "common knowledge" you mean "censored information" then yeah.
You can find pictures and witness accounts of the germans raped, tortured and killed by the poles before and right after the war was declared.
>>55554298
Nigga there were 80k german refugees fleeing Poland before the war.
Actual refugees.
Do you really think Hitler just got into a war with Poland, France and England just for shit and giggles?
>>55555154
>>55555154
Provide references faggot
>>55555154
>Ha, stupid Jews are overplaying their own suffering, it's all propaganda! Gonna go cry "Oy vey" now Jew?
>scheisse! Don't you see how the Germans were persecuted and killed by the poles? Here, have some statistics by the Nazis to back my claim up.
>>55552507
Hitler did nothing wrong
>>55552507
>Obviously he wasn't trying to take over the world
Why wouldn't he? Of course he tried taking over the world, but it is Germanic man's birth right to rule the world. He wanted to colonize the whole world with the Nordic race, basically European colonialism 2.0 German style.
>>55555586
Hitler was viewing the United Kingdom as an example for the rest to follow, so I doubt he would have any interested in colonizing them.
Again, if you put down the Jewish video games and actually do real research, it's easy to find. By "real research," I don't mean the books at the checkout counter published by your friendly Jewish media boss. Hitler's post-war goal was actually uncovered in map form. Generous new territory at the expense of France and Poland, including Alsace Lorraine and all the territory surrendered at Versailles. France left largely intact and still a sovereign nation. Basically all gains at the expense of France and Poland, Bolshevik Jew gvt removed from Russia.
>>55555849
English were already Germanic, there was no need to colonize England with Germans, that was already done with Anglo-Saxons in the 5th century.
>>55555924
But everyone that was rest to colonize was Soviet Russia, pars of Asia and Latin America.
And who want to rule over a bunch of mestizos and ching-chongers?
>>55552671
interesting
Probably something along these lines, but ignoring everything in North America. The Nazis had vague plans about the US, but I don't think actually planned on sailing across the Atlantic and invading an entirely new continent. It just seems unrealistic. The setting of Fatherland seems more accurate, where the US and Canada (where the British monarchy fled) enter a slightly more friendly cold war with Germany (as opposed to the real-life one with the USSR). Also I guess this map would be if things never went South pre-Italian capitulation.
Hitler's goal from the start in the East, as well as overthrowing the Soviet regime, was the return of those territories granted to Germany from Russia in the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk which concluded hostilities between the two powers in WW1. Basically everything up to and including the Baltics, Belarus and the Ukraine.
Everything about Hitler's plan for the future was always East-facing. despite the loss of Elaß-Lothringen and the occupation of the Saarland, war with France and England wasn't on the table if things had gone perfectly to his plans. It was all about Lebensraum, control over the East and positioning Germany at the centre of the global axis of power.
What the American anon says here >>55552671 sounds like an absurd theory, but it's taken seriously even today. The destabilisation and manipulation of Central Asia; the 'Asian Balkans' is a core part of American geopolitical strategy.
Hitler wanted an alliance with birtain. That way Germany could be the dominant continental power and Britain the dominant maritime power.
Obviouly it didn't work and he finaly allied himself with Italy and Japan.
And this map is retarded btw, see pic.
>>55556355
was meant for >>55556139
>>55555895
you mean pamphlets by all those eminent scholars that cherry pick data to suit the apologist narrative?
And the germonkeys had to invade Denmark and Norway because all those oppressed Germans living near the arctic circle?
/stay keked
>>55552507
Make a safe state for all Germans, since we have been the beaten since the antique. He wanted to make a social state where the germans could prosper and he did well until he fucked up in diplomacy.
>>55553968
And the winner writes history. dont believe everything people tell you.
Well fuck you bitch,don't forget to draw the border.
>>55552507
Did Germany annex all of France? No. They weren't trying to take over the world or Europe, they simply wanted a larger Germany with dominance in international affairs
>>55552507
To become a fatherly figure for future pol/acks devoid of masculinity and worthy male relatives.
>>55552507
"Another reason is that most people have no idea what Hitler’s real aims were, where
he had been educated, of which lodges he was a member, whose ideology he adopted, who put him in his position, who financed him and what reasons there were behind the Second World War. Hitler’s ideology had nothing to do with what we call today the “general reality” and with what is told about the Third Reich in schoolbooks. Hitler was a mystic and an occultist down to his shoes, and to understand what happened in the Third Reich one had to look at it from this viewpoint, too. To most “materialists” among the historians, the Nuremberg Trials were a mixture of Grimm’s fairy tales and stories from the mentally sick, because they were unable to think themselves into the roles of the defendants, now had they the necessary knowledge to understand the stories these people told. Dieter Ruggeberg puts this very aptly: “Only an occultist can recognize an occultist!”
The chapters about the “Thule-Gesellschaft” and the “Vril-Gesellschaft” will explain the
ideology of these people in more detail, Hitler and his secret societies knew a lot more about the origin of humanity, the structure of the Earth, anti-gravity and “free energy” than we are taught today. That is also why all writings and books that could divulge this knowledge were removed or banned by the Allies, to ensure that humanity will remain easily manipulated.
The Allies’ main interest were the technologies of the “Vril-Gesellschaft”. These were the best kept secrets of the Third Reich. The Russians got their hands on the construction designs first, the scientists like Viktor Schauberger and Wernher von Braun became – in the operation “Paperclip” – the prey of the Americans."
Secret Societies and Their Power in the 20th Century, Jan Van Helsing
>>55555154
You don't actually believe this shit do you?
It's the equivalent of "we waz Kings n shit"
>>55557445
da joos :DDDDD
>>55552565
>>55552507
like with any money junkie or indeed megalomaniac, more is never enough
>>55552671
The Great Game wasn't about Britain and Russia wanting to rule the world through controlling Central Asia. It was mostly confined to Persia, initialised by Russia with the aims of obtaining a warm-water port near/on the Indian Ocean (according to some 300 years old Russian geopolitical traditions) and creating potential clashing zones with the British in India (as Britain could attack Russia as shown in the Crimean War, but not vice versa due to Britain being an island nation) while Britain was only there to keep the Russians out (partially because she feared Russia's trade and economic boost, but primarily because of my latter point).
>>55553904
Hungary has been a part of numerous other states for the past 500 years up until WW1. Are you going to argue that Budapest, Debrecen, Győr etc. are Austrian/Turkish cities ?
>>55552507
>What was Hitler's goal geopolitically?
get back land lost after WWI and unite german peoples
defeat bolshevism/communism with or without the help of western powers
>>55553824
This is the answer.
In Mein Kampf, years before the war, Hitler states that Russia simply has too much territory while Germany had too little. It only made sense to take some land from the Slavs.
Most of the USSR's smaller states would be absorbed and culturally turned German.
Hitler had no real plans to conquer France and England. I don't think he even believed there would be a war without Churchill. His plan for post war England was to basically remove Churchill from power and let him right his memoirs, sort of like Napoleon.
As for Russia, Hitler decided that he wouldn't even remove Stalin from power. He would allow Stalin and the USSR to continue to exist in the east and 'continue their expirment'. Germany would turn Moscow in to a human made lake and then resettle everything west.
He was more or less inspired by the US taming the frontier.
>>55552853
>If you can control that area you're so well entrenched that no one can take you on or successfully invade.
The Persians controlled that Area for most of history, They were invaded by Alexander, The Arab, The Mongol, Timur, The Azeris and a couple of others
>>55552507
>exterminate communism and the Jews
>make Germany great again
>possibly make animu real
>>55552507
The entire world, with all germans as masters and the rest as their subservients.
>>55554793
[citation needed]
>>55553523
>>55553326
Not surprised about your reaction.I bet you spent a full semester on the holocaust,faggots.
Did the rest of Europe also persecute Germans?Fucking filth.
>>55554793
In your line of logic Poland shouldn't exist and so shouldn't other nations which lost their independence.Gdańsk was Polish,is Polish and will be Polish.Just because it was germanised doesn't yet make it German.
Annexed the Rhineland and Czechoslovakia because muh lebensraum, it was rightful German land. There was some of said rightful land that was given to Poland, Hitler told Poland to give it the fuck back. Poland was being a dick. Britain and France saw this and signed a defense treaty with poland saying they'd go to war if Poland was attacked. Hitler didn't just annex the lebensraum parts of Poland, he blitzkrieged the shit out of it to topple the Polish govt to make sure they wouldn't just attack the parts he annexed, and probably in part to wave Germany's new big dick.
France and Britain declared war and attacked, Germany fucked France's shit up and got to the point of defeating Britain to end their war when the US and USSR got involved. He attacked USSR because the whole thing was about stopping the red terror (spread of communism that the Jews were behind) and USSR was stacking troops and armor along the border with Europe, it was said they were going to steamroll the whole continent once Europe was war torn... and guess what they did after the war? Exactly that, took over all of Eastern Europe and would've taken the whole thing if it weren't for America's iron curtain.
I don't mean to sound like a dindu, but Hitler practically dindu nuffin wrong. He interned the Jews because of the German revolution of 1918 when they actively started a communist uprising. He annexed rightfully owned lands for his people, and didn't screw around when punk ass nations said he couldn't, then he was attacked and fucked up his enemies. It only got ugly when 2 other superpowers entered the war, and Germany was always opposed to the USSR and communism, again the whole of Nazism was an opposition to Jewish Marxism and globalism that had been negatively affecting Germany.
>>55562805
It's true,but that doesn't yet mean anything.Gdańsk was majority Polish when it dound itself in the boundaries of Prussia yet nobody mentions shit.
Their word doesn't mean anything.
>>55563320
>declared war and attacked
>Poland was being a dick
> if it weren't for America's iron curtain.
I laughed hard at this shit.Please more.
>>55552507
He basically wanted to make a USA in Europe (well, what the USA had been). A geographically massive land of highly productive Northern Europeans. He recognized, very accurately, that the age where a tiny island like Great Britain could rule over an exponentially larger and more populous empire were coming to a close, and that any future great power would need a critic mass of sheet size, land, and population to remain relevant. The fall of the European powers and the rise of India and China have vindicated this.
As I understand it, "lebensraum" does not mean "living space" in the sense of land for Germans to colonize, as we were always told in American schools, but rather "vital space", as in, necessary for the nation to sustain itself as a great power.
>>55563320
>Britian and France attacked Germany
>What is the Phony war
>>55563376
Pole IDF pls go, you got your shit pushed in because your president wouldn't give back to Germany what was rightfully theirs. Your stubbornness got a lot of people killed all over the world and fucking ruined Europe's last hope.
>>55563442
>September 4, 1939: British Royal Air Force attacks German Navy
>what are Jewish Lies
>>55563445
>Pole IDF pls go
It's PIDF my mentally challenged "debater".Learn to shorten phrases.
>your president wouldn't give back to Germany what was rightfully theirs.
Just buzzwords and no source.
Come back when you learn some history.Stormfag propaganda doesn't count.
>>55563536
The delusion is real.
>>55562107
I don't know how the hell he thought any of this could work though. Were France and Britain just gonna sit there with their thumbs up their asses while Germany went full-Napoleon on the East? How was he going to successfully occupy a landmass the size of the continental US when the millions of native people have machine guns and artillery rather than bows and arrows? He seemed to think that he was the only hardcore nationalist on Earth and everyone else would just be awestruck by his douchebaggery and surrender like France.
>>55557388
WE DINDU NUFFIN
>>55552507
/THREAD
>>55563649
So Germany would take Italian European clay and give them Africa?
>>55553156
Poland also kept killing Jews in the 1946 pogroms
Based Poland killed
Germans (Justin beiber faced keks)
Russians (Mongols)
and Jews
Welcome to Poland
Now GTFO
I'm proud to be a decedent from family that sent kikes belly up down a river in Kielce Poland
>>55563721
hitler wanted to side with us but we slapped him down 40x and started bombing him
shame desu...we threw away our empire due to being skint from the war and joining frau merkel
we picked the wrong side...a world ran by the white man and japs...it would of been heaven!
>>55552507
He had OCD and wanted the world map to be painted one color.
>>55564209
You're right, I'd very much enjoy to be a potato farmer for Italy
>>55563649
>USA 71
>To be destroyed by Germany and ally Great Britain
Radical man.
>>55564351
and burgers said they saved us haha they joined in because they knew they would of been on their own if they didnt afterward
yanks should be gratful we didnt take the easy route.
>>55563989
Why is Switzerland and Estonia so high and UK comparatively low?
>>55552507
>German's were being prosecuted (like Poland)?
this was proven to be a false flag how many times by now?
I swear you shitters are shills trying to discredit /pol/ on purpose by claiming nazis were the good guys
>>55564399
Your great grandfather would be Russian if it wasn't in our interest to fuck the war up.
>>55564522
jokes on you burger my grandad was soviet ukrainian haha
>>55552507
Holy Roman Empire 2.0
>>55564697
>>55564715
2.5*
He was really just riding Wilhelm's nuts the whole time
>>55564399
Both are nations should have brokered a peace with the Axis.
>Western Hemisphere for USA
>Empire for Britain
>Continental Europe for Germany
>East Asia for Japan
>Mars colonization and robots for everyone
>>55556150
Karl Haushofer was the inventor of the Lebensraum concept and an avid reader of Mackinder
>>55561744
as I addressed the great game was over Persia because Russia already controlled most fo Central Asia.
The idea was to weaken Russian influence in central asia which never really happened until the Afghan/Russian War in the 80s.
>>55562583
Mackinder was writing for industrial age geopolitics, most of his ideas are irrelevant if you take out the factors of modern technology.
The Mongolian Empire for example conquered most of asia, but it fell apart because it was simply too large for any one group to govern for a long period of time with the technology of the time.
1) get back at France and UK for Versailles
2) get rid of jewish influence inside Germany
3) expand Lebensraum to the east
>>55564505
why didnt you let us build the Autobahn, Polen?
>>55564478
Russians
>>55564930
>get back at the uk?
u fuckin wot m8?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVd-DGMuHfM
>>55555292
https://youtu.be/t0E_Ewe8g2Y
>>55555154
>Hey Stalin, the Poles are being mean to us, let's double team their country senpai
