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BEN CARSON: CALLS OUT TRUMP ON IMMIGRATION!!
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>"I think they hurt Donald Trump in the long run," Carson said in an interview with the Washington Examiner published Thursday, referring to Trump's deportation plans.

>"I think there are enough people who know that there are others in the race that are very reasonable. I don't think he necessarily is the representation of the Republican Party — far from it," Carson told the Examiner.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/259912-carson-trumps-immigration-plan-not-pragmatic

I kinda agree with Carson here: Trump's plan sounds dangerous and insane. Deporting 11 million people will cause chaos and death. Amnesty for those already in the counter makes sense, followed by building a fence to keep out further migrants.
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>>55510583
CARSON/PAUL when?

America's sick, time to call the Doctors, repeal and replace Obamacare.
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>>55510583
Trump is an idiot

it would be easier to take away all the guns considering these illegals probably have illegal guns
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>>55510583
mexcrement detected

CARSON BTFO
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>>55510583
Latinos consistently vote at least ~70% for Democrats. If the illegals aren't removed and their 11,000,000+ ranks are added to the voter rolls the current GOP will be even more finished than they already are.
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>>55510583
>Mexicans come here illegally years ago and get away with breaking the law for years
>Reasonable person: "How about we enforce the law to solve some of the problems this situation might be contributing to?"
>Hurr durr well might as well let the beaners stay here who have already been breaking the law for an extended period of time

The mindset of anyone who is against deporting illegals is at odds with the idea of ensuring the stability and long-term prosperity of a society and its legal inhabitants. In other words, if you're pro-illegal spiccary, get the fuck out of this country.
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>>55510698
>it would be easier to take away all the guns considering these illegals probably have illegal guns
>easier to take away 300 million guns than to deport 11 million people
retardation incarnate

>>55510583
Deporting 11 million is only necessary because of the extent we've ignored the law. The pains we endure in keeping them here arent necessary, but the pains associated with ridding ourselves of them is indeed very necessary.
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http://www.wral.com/ap-exclusive-carson-profits-from-friendship-with-felon/15103092/

Carson is fucked, its just one blunder after another with this ape.
>guuuyys vote for me I'm bllacckk
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>>55510583
BTFO
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>It also affects the farming industry, the hospitality industry. So, you know, we have to be pragmatic as a nation. There's no reason that they should have to live in the shadows

Deport the current workers and let them apply for a guest worker program. Why's that such a problem?
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Let's put Ben's campaign to sleep
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Carson shills need to choke on a scalpel. To have proper immigration policy that's fair for all you HAVE to deport the 11 million.

Leaving the 11 million in here while building the wall and having the rest go through the legal process will foster a feeling of intense resentment among those people because they have to jump through hoops when all they had to do was cross illegally before the wall was finished.

Build wall, deport illegals, everyone comes in equally then.
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>yeah, adding a few more million democratic voters, turning Texas blue and ending white America sounds like a swell idea, why is Trump against it?
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>>55510583

>Illigals without any right to stay in the country
>Grant them amnesty! its evil to not allow them to stay!

Carson is such a wimp
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>>55510583

This is my own post from a previous thread:

Do Liberals not understand that the worst thing that can happen to them is Trump not winning?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4u1J6EEhkyM [Open]
>The Truth Behind Illegal Immigration And Welfare

I cite this video as Stephan, although a Libertarian therefore insane(just a fascists opinion), does provide good statical sources for most of his technical information, and the verdict is in.

If Trump does not win the candidacy AND the presidential, the Republican Party will be destroyed. The numbers are just too stacked, no immigrant, illegal or otherwise who draws welfare(of which a large majority do) will EVER vote for a party that threatens to take that away, not only that, but the current projections of continuing population growth of illegals and their multigenerational welfare families in this country, from reproduction and continuing illegal immigration, guarantees that if NOTHING is done, or even worse, they are made legal as proposed by many republican candidates, it's going to happen regardless.

The rate of cutural assimilation from a immigrant family, even those supposed "conservative Hispanics" from liberal welfare to conservatism is 100 years... A HUNDRED FUCKING YEARS!!!!

YOU THINK THE PEOPLE KNOWN FOR MILITARY ROLES, GOVERNMENT PARANOIA AND HOARDING AMMO AND WEAPONS ARE GOING TO SIT ON THEIR HANDS FOR A HUNDRED FUCKING YEARS UNTIL DEMOCRACY GIVES THEM A SNOWBALLS CHANCE IN HELL OF RELEVANCE AGAIN!? ASSUMING THE COUNTRY IS EVEN STILL HERE?

They are playing right into mine and others like me hands. You'll IRA style bombings, growing militias(which will be outlawed eventually), civil unrest, States seeking to succeed, and everything else an enemy of democracy could want... It's going to be fucking hilarious.

So to any leftists out there, please, keeping shilling your Bernies and your Hillaries, your doing fascism a favour.
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>>55511065
Or even better: Deport the illegals and expect Americans to do the jobs that need done in America.
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>>55511113

FUCK OFF SHILL
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>>55511272
On top of that one of his newer videos points out 65% of illegal immigrants are on welfare.
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>>55510583
>Deporting 11 million people will cause chaos and death
Thank Trump none of the dead will be American citizens, just illegals getting shot at THE WALL when they try re-rape our borders.
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>>55511277
That is better but people for amnesty always say Americans are unwilling to do the dirty jobs filled by illegal immigrants.
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>>55510698
>it would be easier to take away all the guns considering these illegals probably have illegal guns
Senator Feinstein? is that you? The pure stupidity of your comment make me think it is
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>>55510583
It makes more sense to get on board Trump's immigration policy. It's what the people want. It's what the people deserve
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As a democratic voter, I am seriously considering switching parties just to vote Carson, to ensure fat piece of shit Trump loses.

My family is from Tijuana, and contributes to this country more than Trump the scam artists who uses bankruptcy to avoid paying his rightful debts.

I have extended family who came here illegally but they work very hard doing the jobs no American would want to do. Name one American who wants to pick blackberries from thorny bushes for 14 hours per day. Name one American who wants to shovel loads of pig shit for 12 hours a day. Fact is....you can't. Americans are not hard workers due to societal feminization. If you remove the illegals, you will destroy your ability to attain fruits and pork among many other staples of your comfy lives.

There are far more crimes committed by blacks and whites overall than Mexicans. FACT.
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>>55510872
Vague explanation is your retort?

Even without the illegals gone you still have niggers in the USA

Stability and prosperity while having niggers doesn't work. besides the riots, they have a communist viewpoint towards life, because they can't compete in a capitalist society.
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>>55511645
Do it friend.

Do it for We The People.
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>>55510583
>I don't think he necessarily is the representation of the Republican Party — far from it

That could be said of the majority of candidates
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It's either deport them now or kill them later and deporting them is much more humane.
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>>55510698
I hope you're just funshilling because this is new-tier dumb dumbery.
If an illegal immigrant had an illegal gun he must and should be confronted.

As for muh 12 gorillion (notice this is what Jeb said during the debate even though 11 is the accepted number), just make life unbearable for them and they with auto-deport. Start by catching them where they work.

The hardest part would be proving they are here illegally and not just innocents caught up in a raid. Raiding and deporting them are the easy part which is what Beanerfags lie about. Deporting 11 million people would be like fielding an army. We do it several times a year whenever a expeditionary force goes to sea or groups in Europe rotate.
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>>55511645

Listen I don't doubt that your family works hard but they are in the country illegally.

I disagree with Trump's INSANE and FASCIST plans, BUT... illegal immigrants are breaking the law.
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>>55511145
Fucking this. Carson shills ate naïve as fuck
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>>55510698 >>55510907 >>55511565
Fucking Liberals, man

They think it would easy to go home to home and round up 300+ million guns, but impossible to round up 11+ million illegals
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>>55511645
>>55511726
>>55511746
>I disagree with Trump's INSANE and FASCIST plans

holy fucking shills
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>>55510583
Arizona passed AB 1070. Before it passed 100,000 illegals left Arizona, on their own. After it passed 100,000 more left Arizona, on their own.

Parts of the bill were ruled unconstitutional, yet was still effective enough to get rid of illegals without force.

Make it national law
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>>55511645
That's funny, I was a registered Democrat until a few months ago just so I could vote for Trump in the primaries and again in the general. So I guess we cancel out.

Also Idgaf about your family, ask them to kindly BUILD WALL on their way out.
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>>55511508
>people for amnesty always say Americans are unwilling to do the dirty jobs filled by illegal immigrants.
That's a diseased way of thinking. They're racists who think Americans are above doing "dirty work" and they want an ethnic underclass to do them.
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>>55511726
I will.

And many fellow. moderate democrats feel the same way.

We hate Hillary and would prefer Carson over Bernie the socialist.

The only way Hillary or Bernie get a win is if Trump is the nominee. Carson would easily smoke them. Even Rand is preferable to Trump.
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Trump still comes off far more intelligent than Carson, Carson is a creationist and that alone makes him unfit to be president, not to mentiom all the lieing he has done since day 1.
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>>55511645
Your family needs to leave. If I met you and you invited me home for dinner and to stay on your couch but I found out you were illegal, I would leave and call ICE the same day. Go home Paco. It's going to get worse not better once people start killing roaches like your parents. This will never be your home.
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>>55510583
This affirmative action "surgeon" should learn to stay at his place, in the back of the bus.

Seriously amerifat, wtf is wrong with you ? Obongo and now this retarded ape ?
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>>55511746
It isn't feasible to just mass deport people whom your agricultural sector depends on to survive. You will face massive shortages, and a single pork chop may cost you $25.00.

It would hurt the nation more than even help.

Also, do you think most illegals don't have fake id? It's impossible to distinguish all illegals from legals.
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>>55510583
Ben is clearly the more level-headed of the two. I can see myself voting for Carson.
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>>55511272
Youre blabbering more about conspiracy theories rather than objective perspective.

Thanks for the scatterbrained post that lacks any substance.

Reread your post, because its identical to a crackheads thought process transferred to litarary format.
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>>55510907
>>55511565
>>55511744
>>55511779
You guys are fucking retarded.

There will ALWAYS be Illegal Immigrants

There will ALWAYS be Illegal Guns
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>>55511645

As a white dude who was shoveling shit on a farm in 100 degree heat this year, I kindly tell you to go fuck yourself with your generalizations and tell that oh so hard working family of yours to build my fucking wall.
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>>55511906
I am legal. I was born here. My parents were illegal originally, but have citizenship now. Relax.
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>>55510583

>Deporting 11 million people will cause chaos and death
In the short term
>Allowing 11 million illegal immigrants and more into our country will cause chaos and death
In the long term

Which will cause more damage?

Better to have social unrest today than civil war tomorrow.
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>>55510583
fuck off nigger
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>>55512170
>there will always be murder so let's fire our police force we don't need em
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>>55512170
and there will always be deportations
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>>55510583
does it hurt obama?
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>>55512252
BAN ASSAULT DEATHS
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>>55512288
Get a Life, Bin that Knife
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>>55512185
Sure a rare white person may work the jobs, but look around you. What type of people worked beside you?
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>>55510583
It's great hearing talking heads say "Operation Wetback"

But yeah, it's retarded saying it didn't work, especially if they were just deported and nothing was done about the border
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>>55512201
sounds like trump needs to repeal the 14th amendment
fucking anchor babies
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>>55512170
>There will ALWAYS be Illegal Immigrants
>There will ALWAYS be Illegal Guns
I don't think anyone argues with that. If you had cancer you'd just let it take it's course and kill you without trying? That is basically what you are implying. Also I hope you get raped by some wetback
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>>55511272
Please take your meds and take a break from the computer. /pol/ is not a representation of real life.
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>>55512170
This

Trump supporters have shown illogical explanations on many fronts.

It's too easy to obliterate them in a debate.
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>>55512124
>does not refute a single factual statement about the fact an overwhelmingly majority of illegal immigrants and their offspring are welfare leeches and will vote Democrat every single time.
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>>55512185
What type of people were beside you working those jobs? Only the poorest whites would make such an endeavour.

I'm not being racist, but whites are feminized now. In comparison whites do not do those jobs ever, less the extremely poor whites which are few.
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>>55512321
>you wont work for shit wages that an illegal will work for
gee........

they make us all poorer in the long run
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>>55512291
Mexican groups have started to protest Obama because he's done shit

I bet no one has heard his executive order to keep 5 million from being deported was shot down by the courts and he's trying to appeal it

>A federal appeals court said President Barack Obama's controversial executive actions on immigration -- aimed at easing deportation threats for millions of undocumented immigrants -- must remain blocked.

>On Monday night, the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals ruled 2-1 that a lower court did not "abuse its discretion" when it said challengers to the law were likely to succeed in their claim that the programs were unlawful because they didn't comply with the Administrative Procedure Act (APA), a law that sets forward how federal agencies can establish regulations.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/09/politics/obama-immigration-appeals-court-ruling/
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The only way to realistically deport 11 million people is to incentivize them to deport themselves. Most people would think this is unfair to legal immigrants though
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>>55512396
Or perhaps the 2nd?

Or does that only work to get your own ways?
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So why does trump always s9nice things about Carson?
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>>55512476
This

Hell, with everyone pushing $15/hour, why work in a field when you can work in air conditioned building doing half the work
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>>55512467
and yet 99% white states like NH VT ME function just fine

there are plenty of white coal miners, lumberjacks, oil roughnecks

people who think flooding america with uneducate illegals is a good idea need to go
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>>55510583
Black guy here
Carson is anti black and anti white
>letting in all of tge Spanish speaking third world
baka
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>>55512410
>>55512124
All this butt hurt.

If I would have known if it was as easy as to just post Stefan Molyneux videos, I would have done it along time ago.

Here have another(62% of illegal immigrant households on welfare)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yjjSG705Inc
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>>55512291
>2013 deported 438
WTF is that shit, even Canada deported almost 10000 people from the GTA (Toronto) alone, although since it's 2015! that number will definitely go down
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>>55512483
see
>>55511819

Rather SB 1070

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_SB_1070
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>le illegals doing jobs americans wouldn't do meme

>picking le fruits
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>>55511645

>muh hard jobs
>muh lazy americans need us

Get the fuck out of here with that shit, we can build robots to do your pathetic jobs. You're replaceable Pablo.
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>>55512585
>there are plenty of white coal miners, lumberjacks, oil roughnecks

They get paid pretty well too

Agriculture workers are barely getting minimum wage. It is a seasonal job too.
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>>55510583
>will cause chaos and death.
How so? Laws are enforced, people will start showing their ID when they apply to a job, school or go to an hospital. The immigrants caught without documents are deported. That's how it works in any decent country. You don't need to have groups of law enforcement agents chasing people in the streets. I don't know why Trump thinks that a Deportation Force is needed...that sounds crazy as hell.
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>>55512547
you didnt understand my post
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>>55510583
>Amnesty for those already in the counter makes sense
No it doesn't. It's already been tried and it didn't help shit.
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>>55511897
Based Tijuana
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carson and others like him just want the democrats to have more spanish apeaking foot soldiers
boo that man
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>>55512297
>>55512320
confirmed shill
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>>55512686
>pls mistah trump, dont take away my slaves
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>>55512585
The jobs you mention are quite different from the agricultural jobs in which you depend on migrant workers to keep the prices reasonable.

Would you prefer paying 13 dollars per strawberry? 40 dollars for a can of olives? 25 dollars for a bag of grapes?

It would be suicide to follow trumps plan.
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>>55512657
as always carson has no idea about what he's talking about
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>>55512732
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>>55512476
Why do you continue to post this factually incorrect data?

Maybe you should look up government assistance by ethnicity which will show that nigger Africans, Haitians, domicians have the highest rate of welfare of immigrants. Especially, when considering costs per capita.

Trump supporters are truly the worst political debaters in history.
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>>55512657
What is your point?

Yes, enjoy paying 30k extra to have houses built, also.
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>>55512745
oh so suddenly capitalism doesnt work? fuck off shill

see >>55512736
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Carson is a pussy faggot.
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>>55512745
There are machines which harvest crops. I know that sounds fanciful to you, but it's true. Illegals have stifled the automation of the agricultural industry.
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>>55512736
What?

I'm for getting rid of illegals

More people would work in the fields if they were paid more. People work in coal mines because it pays well.
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Carson kucks. Might as well vote for yeb bush
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>>55512799
its not incorrect, dont shoot the messenger
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>>55512806
As if homes aren't already overpriced as fuck

A four room home shouldn't cost no more than 200K, especially if labor is cheap
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>>55512321
>>55512467

Illegals being exploited for shit-tier wages encourages only illegals to take the work, which fosters an image in the public that "white people can't do that kind of work".

Whites tend to sit on the sidelines because they know some desperate as fuck Mexican will always bum rush a job and say he'll do it for 5 pesos a day. Remove the glut of illegals and bring back a sense of pride and honor in things like working on a farm and you'll get white boys out there.

>b-b-buh without illegals muh applez will be pricey :_;

So basically we should keep an underclass of near slave labor in order to keep your apples from going up %15 in price? What liberal tolerant values you have.
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>>55512846
People work in coal mines because they have no other alternative. It is a low skill job that only pays well because of the health hazard.
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>>55512745
>Would you prefer paying 13 dollars per strawberry? 40 dollars for a can of olives? 25 dollars for a bag of grapes?

Where are you getting these prices?

You're as bad as the retards who put out $15/hour for minimum wage, with no explanation
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>>55512846
>People work in coal mines because it pays well.
To bad obongo and his far left eviro agenda is killing those job, the same thing happen here in syrupland
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I like Carson, Trump comes off as an a-hole.
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>>55510721
So basically

1. our low skill jobs continue to pay shit.

2. We live among an underclass of disease-ridden people with no heath care whatsoever.

3. We have to pay for special schools to teach English and what it means to be an American, probably need to teach a good portion of them to read for that to work too.

4. We force them to pay back taxes so they'll need to sell drugs or exploit welfare or work under the table to make ends meet.

5. We continue to suppress the robot revolution by exploiting desperate human beings and forcing them to work for less than the cost of living.
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>>55510583
>amnesty for those already in the counter makes sense, followed by building a fence to keep out further migrants.

We did that under Reagan. Now look where we are today. The democrats will cooperate with you on your entire plan, they will agree with you, and promise further cooperation. You will start with amnesty, every gives a yes vote, then the moment you try and make stricter borders they will turn their back on you. Just like in the 80s
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>>55512768
Obviously, the professional, business, and other services category would consist of lawn maintenance type services.

Ever think of that?

Pure logic

It seems like you posted a different graph the other day like this with varied job categories. It seems like this one doesn't pan out, either.

It comes down to how they categorize the jobs the illegals perform.
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>>55513078
Maybe the Federal Minimum Wage is too high shithead?
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>>55512975
Hilarious that he and his supporters were anti-oil just a few years ago. Now that he allowed fracking and oil is low, they're celebrating it and even calling for more fracking.

And oil is down to $41, taking the DOW down 160 points
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>>55510583
What people are forgetting is that there has already been a mass deportation of illegal immigrants in the US before, so of course it can be done again.
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>>55512904
Dank meme faim
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always relevant

if you dont want to exploit illegal immigrants you are a racist
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>>55512913
These are the people who believe the crap they say about "white people won't do that sort of work". "No, YOU won't do that sort of work!" I say. These are the sort of liberal flops who have the attitude that everyone should work in a cozy office like they do. No ambition, no pride, no work ethic, no desire for physical exertion.
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>>55512806
>>55513113

they are taking american jobs, driving wage downs, forcing honest business to close, and being a burden to the system in general

a construction firm just closed in my town thanks to these fuckers

they must be deported

there isn't a single benefit in allowing them to remain here
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>>55510583
It's 1939 Germany no matter how you spin it.

The systematic deportation of a group under clear conditions, in numbers as great as 11 million can't ever happen peacefully.

The US will look at each mexican with suspicion, and all that in some way or the other looks like someone that was recently deported from the neighbourhood will be stigmatized.

If you think something like this can happen peacefully and without consequences you are a fucking idiot.
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>>55513150
>$7.25

That's too high? It's the states and cities that have higher minimum wages

Anyways, there shouldn't be a minimum wage
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>>55512745
I see great job opportunities for teenagers in the summers.
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>>55513258
>muh 1939 Germany
>muh nazism
>muh shlomocaust
Yusuf, pls.
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>>55513258
I already look at Mexicans with suspicion and have outright asked the ones I work with if they are illegal and told them what I think about illegals. I have no issues whatsoever with voicing my opinion on the matter.
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>>55513078
>less than the cost of living.
>tfw I work only 20 hours a week at $10/hr in expensive San Diego
>tfw I'm still alive and don't require handouts

Why is it that Berniefags are so passionate about needing $15 to live? Is it not living if you don't have $1000 disposable income per month? Because I should report to the coroner ASAP.
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>>55512974

They pull those numbers right from their ass. A big fucking scare tactic to keep their useful idiots pouring across the border.

>illegals pour in
>get paid next to nothing
>try to bring illegals under the welfare umbrella
>give illegals voting rights
>"see Pedro you NEED us Democrats in office or else big bad Trump will get rid of you! Only WE care about you. Oh here's a nickel, go unclog my toilet."
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>>55513258
we already deport over 400,000 a year

no riots

no OBAMA IS A NAZI

too many ignorant people today is the problem
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>>55513274
Yes because supermarkets then get killed by highschool kids getting paid something they could live on if they had to work 40 hours a week. The more minimum wage goes up the more they have to charge a shitload for soap, milk, bread etc.
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>>55513393
Children are supposed to have a salary?
Whoa, my country is the poorest in the world.
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>fill with hispanics
>d d dont worry we wont end up like central america
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>>55513258
>>55513452
see
>>55511819


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_SB_1070
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We can never do amnesty again. It was done once. We said at that time it would never happen again.

First one never should have happened either. All it did was invite more fucking bean people to show up and wait for the next amnesty.

No amnesty. Never again.
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>>55510583

Not 11 million. At least 34 million and more every day. The only danger is in not acknowledging the seriousness of this silent invasion.
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>>55511906
I have a friend who is an ICE agent. I told her about some wetbacks that were here illegally, working in some taco joint, and asked her to deport them. She laughed and explained to me like a naive idiot that I am, that ICE goes only after the big fish they don't care about families of individuals. So there's fucking that
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>>55513492
no, its shows how even legal hispanics are dragging us down

they bring poverty, which no one wants (well maybe democrats want)
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>>55513258
Fuck off spearmint. We absolutely can get rid of them. Fuck they'll leave themselves once they see it happening.
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>>55511508
That's a lie. A big fat stinking lie. Very straightforward lie.
You really think an American would rather not have job than a less prestigious one?
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>>55513484
I know Stater Bros., big store in California, are unionized and making average of $11/hour

http://www.payscale.com/research/US/Employer=Stater_Bros._Markets/Hourly_Rate

You can still buy milk for $2.70 a gallon and a loaf of bead for $1
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>>55513242
It's funny, the people on the liberal left like to say that they represent the interests of the working class. Then they turn around and give them shit for being poor and uneducated.

Wonder if Trump's massive support from blue collar workers has anything to do with this.
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>>55513558
>they bring poverty, which no one wants (well maybe democrats want)

And Ben. Carson wants Puerto Rico to be a state even though it's poorer than the poorest state of the United States.
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>>55511645
I am sorry, you have your family have to go. We are trying to clean this place up.
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>>55513243
Actually,

They are adding jobs,

Creating revenue for companies.

Which then is taxed, not only revenue per employee part but the illegal's goods and services purchases in the USA.

disease ridden? Isn't that where niggers hold the torch with flying colors. Research stds in the USA or even in other countries for that matter. Especially aids.

Your whole argument isn't logical.

I can go on and on.
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>>55513671
Stater Bros. is my shit
don't even need a member's card
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>>55513737
The only thing Puerto Ricans can't do is vote, until they leave their shithole island anyways. They are still technically American citizens.
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>>55513547


"Operation Wetback"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

I Like IKE!!!
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>>55513715
>Wonder if Trump's massive support from blue collar workers has anything to do with this.
Probably some, I think it's more alone the lines that he is not a career politician or a faggot nigger from chicago
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>>55513869
Albertson's and Ralphs are pretty cool too, at least when they have sales

Winco is the best though
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>>55511508
>Americans are unwilling to do the dirty jobs filled by illegal immigrants.

That is bullshit we even have a TV show dedicated to it
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It's hilarious that people still use the 11 million figure that they used back in the 90s
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>>55511654
The thing is the niggers didn't break a law being here. The illegals are here illegally. What the fuck more can be said about that? They shouldn't be here, and if I could have my way I would kill them all. They don't belong here, and once that wall is built they can become Americans legally.

Most of these people hate America. The ones that love it will come back and contribute.
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>>55513831
If he's legal, it doesn't pertain him.
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He's an amnesty shill fuck him
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>>55510583
>Deporting 11 million people will cause chaos and death.

They have to go
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>>55510583
The mass deportation will be stopped by congress no matter what. Most republicans love the cheap labor.

Building the wall is much more important, and actually has a real chance of being built.
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>>55513971
What is the true number though?

I've heard 30 million

Do we include anchor babies as well?
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Arson the Carson. Weak affirmative action-American for kekservatives.
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>>55514017
His plan literally documents all Illegal Migrants.
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>>55514009
His parents were illegals so it DOES pertain [to] him. He is an anchor baby and must go.
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>>55513361
>>55513389
>>55513452
>>55513513
>>55513568

It's not about the deportation per say. It's the stigmatization and ratting out that can and will make a country a very hostile environment.
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>>55514094
>Most republicans love the cheap labor.

Why or how does it support them? The cheap labor doesn't vote or would vote for them.

Seems like most businesses are run by people on the Left rather than the Right
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>>55513847
they make us all poorer

see >>55512476
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>>55512078
Having an entire industry dependent on illegal labour is unsustainable from a moral point of view.
Besides which, why would it be a bad thing for food prices to go up. The average citizen of the US could probably cut their calorie intake in half and still be overweight.
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>>5551058
>chaos and death
Because the deportees will resist? This is why you have the right to bear arms.
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>>55514136
we already do it on a large scale

no riots

no calling obama racist
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>>55513921
You're using a TV show to prove your point?

You actually indirectly prove the point that Americans value hard work which most of the Mexican illegals perform. Labor intensive, societal value added jobs. Which explains the premise of the show.

This is getting too easy.
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>>55514136
The US isn't already seen as hostile, by its neighbors and the world, from our murder rate to wars all over the world?
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>>55514104
>Do we include anchor babies as well?

yes the anchor babies are going to be deported
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>>55514094
It is Democrats who love the cheap labor. It always was. That's why they created the ersatz issue of protecting poor innocent roaches from white nationalist depredation.
Just listen to the Democrat thralls in this thread. Everything they say plays into the hands of corporations with an interest in maintaining peasant labor.
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that one illegal ITT who thinks millions of 3rd worlders makes your country better off
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>>55514217
>Because the deportees will resist?

They will be unable to work because it will be illegal for anyone to hire them. They will not be getting anymore welfare so they will self deport they dont have any other option.
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Carson is a Kekservative and his ties to Soros are really showing
>Amnesty gives democrats eleven million more voters
>no chance of a wall or fence being built
>wants Puerto Rico to be a state
>free 7 electoral votes for the democrats.
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>>55514248
No most illegals are on welfare pableo.
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>>55512124
>>55512410

Hi NSA.

Look how they fucking lose it once someone mutters the truth. So scared.
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11, so tired of hearing this number, try 50-70 at least, fuck who knows it could be a hundred especially with the boarder patrol "completing the smuggling process" and bringing in thousands from Guatemala in the last 2 years. Whats happening to Europe is happening to America its just that people are less aware of it.
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>>55514266
I love this man more and more every passing second.

When The Great Burrito Barrier needs to be built, I plan on applying for a job to help.
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>>55514180
Businesses that love the left are Hollywood and entertainment and the silicon valley types.
Manufacturing and heavy industries are more republican.
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>>55510583
Whoa carson just lost all respect from me
Trump is going to win based on his immigration stance. Carson attacking that will lose any fence sitters.
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>>55514398
and other countries too
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>>55514134
This, exactly. The 14th amendment does not apply to anchor babies. Rand explained it quite well at the one debate. The anon and his while family have to kindly fuck off.
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>>55514266
>>55514399
Trump and Cruz really are the only people who aren't for illegals or citizenship

Look at these keks in the Gang of Eight, who were for citizenship of illegals

>Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-SC
>Sen. John McCain, R-AZ
>Sen. Marco Rubio, R-FL

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gang_of_Eight_(immigration)
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>>55514180
>Seems like most businesses are run by people on the Left rather than the Right
Only the services industry and tech, they pander to the left to prevent an internet shitstorm such as this:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/03/us-mozilla-ceo-resignation-idUSBREA321Y320140403

Energy (oil and gas), construction and transport (the industry that built the western world) are all run by white guys who don't give a fuck and leftie hippies know nothing about them, or just parrot 'muh global warming'
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>>55514196
That welfare statistics isn't accurate.

Also, you lumped up Central Americans with Mexicans.

Look at the government assistance ethncitity breakdown. Which clearly shows nigger Africans, Haitians, and Dominicans as the largest welfare recipients per capita.

Furthermore, which is more important, is your narrative is surrounded around costs in total amounts. Which if broken down by ethnicity, shows that Mexicans take up less per capita.

It needs to be relative, which you havent presented.
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>>55514248

White people are not afraid of getting dirty. The main problem is farming jobs like picking berries because it don't pay shit. When the illegals are deported jobs like picking berries will become mechanized. Just like how McJob workers that want $15 an hour will be replaced with robots. We wont miss them and it will provide better paying jobs for white mechanics to keep the new machines operating.
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>>55514266


yes but the previous 3 tweets is Trump getting all butthurt over KArl Rove who called him out on the stupid comment on China & the TPP

TRUMP STUMPED
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>>55514567
they are accurate
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WIth Open Gates shows what will happen to the US with its current policy. It's what it's headed towards. Don't try to deny it, the Europeans did, look where they are now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44vzMNG2fZc
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>>55514565
>Energy (oil and gas), construction and transport

How many illegals work in energy and transportation though?

I've never heard of illegals making $100K/year on oil rigs

Energy is crashing, oil is at $41/barrel, and alt energy is all made in China
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>>55512201
anchor baby born from garbage parents, lucky you.
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Why can't we tell the illegals that if they don't board the government provided planes, boats, or buses to leave the country within 15 months if they are discovered they will be sentenced to death?
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>>55514628
>"China will get into the TPP through the backdoor"
>"uhh China isn't currently part of the TPP"
>HURR DURR TRUMP STUMPED TRUMP STUMPED RAND 2016
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how look,a nigger wanting to turn america into an even bigger shitskin shithole

shocking!
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>>55514835
>HUR DUR TRUMP REMAINS UNSTUMPED
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>>55514628
Trump is such a crybabby bitch

>/pol/ calls this Alpha
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>>55512622
>(numbers in thousands)* syrupnigger
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>>55514897
>Trump tells the truth
>somehow this stumps him
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>>55514897
He's still running, getting more attention than anyone else

Hell, yesterday on Jose Diaz-Balart's MSNBC show they replayed Trump's whole interview with Joe Scarbourgh, about 45 minutes long
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>>55514725
>He wants to tear apart innocent families who didn't do noffins
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/12/arizona-migrant-woman-leaves-sanctuary-church-15-months
I mean they are fleeing war and poverty COME ON.
Is it time to start lynching editors for the guardian? They are at the epicenter of this "good goy" movement to make life better for hedge fund managers under the guise of being antifa.
What's the punishment in Britain for that sort of thing anyway? Flattening the guardian, I mean.
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>>55512657
What's sad is you can actually see a decline in quality when it comes to things built by illegals.
Our road was re-paved, they went about two months over seduce and the road surface Is horribly uneven.
All those McMansions are being built by illegals too.
You really get what you pay for when it comes to labor.
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>>55515044
>>55515082
Donald Trump will never remain: Unstumped

His 107 day winning streak, Stumped.

"I hit people and they get knocked down" Stumped.
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>>55515044

>publicly endorses a mass deportation program called operation WETBACK where millions of immigrants were forcibly removed under brutal conditions

i realize this gives /pol/ a boner, but to the rest of the population, this is the epitome of STUMPED.
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>>55514668
Typical trump reply.

Get owned with the truth then gets flustered.
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>>55515264
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_republican_presidential_nomination-3823.html
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>>55511508

That's a complete and total lie. ALL professions have a majority of native Americans working them.
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>>55510583
>Trump's plan sounds dangerous and insane. Deporting 11 million people will cause chaos and death.

Who gives a shit? How weak are you people?
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>>55511277
>>55511508
>That is better but people for amnesty always say Americans are unwilling to do the dirty jobs filled by illegal immigrants.

Why don't the $15/hour people ever bring up agriculture workers
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>>55510583
>>55510583
>I kinda agree with Carson here: Trump's plan sounds dangerous and insane. Deporting 11 million people will cause chaos and death.

I love how people think it's going to be 11m people all at one time. And CHAOS! Just goes to show you how retarded sleepy Carson supporters are.
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Carson is a such a pathetic bix nooding house niggers it's beyond mind blogging. illegals are hurt the black community the most out any other demographic and here is this oreo shilling hard for them.
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>>55515696

People who actually have a stake in this country, e.g. taxpayers who don't still live with their parents, give a shit.

How are underage are you?
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>>55515609
I don't see your point anon.

He was Stumped.
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>>55511645

***INCONVENIENT FACT ALERT***

60% of illegals work in the tertiary (service) economy, and only 4% of illegals work in the primary economy (agriculture & food production). There are far more native-born Americans working in the fields than illegal aliens.
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>>55516054
then you should be for trumps plan to deport 11 million illegals that cost more money than they provide.
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>>55515792
It's actually costly, and time consuming do it's counterproductive considering the economical benefits that illegals provide.
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>>55514251
The U.S. has a pretty friendly INTERNAL environment. Btw people see your government as hostile, and see the people of the U.S. as an completely different entity (most absolutely love the American people).

>>55514237
Are they ones that get deported within the first year of coming here though?

I think the left and right both agree that the illegal immigration should stop, this is about the illegal immigrants that are here that already have a family and everything right?
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>>55515937

shit so many typos sorry guys i haven't slept in a while fuck i need to sleep
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>>55516054
>>55516194

>Muh Shekels

That's your entire argument. The survival of the West matters more than any benefit that illegals provide.
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>>55512201

Another inconvenient fact: you are actually NOT a citizen, and no one has to touch the 14th Amendment in order to deport you.
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DEATH TO THE ILLEGALS

GET TO THIS COUNTRY LEGALLY
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>>55513847
>poor people create jobs

WHOA THIS GUY'S GOT IT FUCKIN FIGURED OUT
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>>55512321
Me. I worked with illegals in Texas. Nice people but they didn't speak any English so we communicated with hand signals. Kinda fun actually.
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>>55516182
Wrong

They actually contribute more than they take.

Think revenue per employees for a company. That gets taxed. Without illegals, that output is nonexistent. That's even without considering the gdp increase benefits.
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>>55514959
STOP REPOSTING THE SAME CARSON COMIC YOU MADE OVER AND OVER YOU AUTIST
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>>55512291
My favorite part about this graph is that Jeb bush complained that it was impossible to deport 500,000 a year during the debates the other night, but obama's gotten pretty damn close and no on has batted an eye.
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>>55510583
GOD DAMN IT CANADA WE KNOW NOW STFU BEFORE YOU RUIN EVERYTHING
we get it we know we cant deport 11mil people but if we say that they can stay we'll be flooded like Germany
the only option is to keep up the shtick till the wall is up after that we can say"oops only kidding you can stay" but until it's built we have to keep telling people they won't be staying
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>>55516399
Adding jobs to the work force.

It's pretty simple how I explained it and after added that they create revenue for companies.

You don't understand context?
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>>55516318
Actually, by law he is a USA citizen.

And if his parents were granted citizenship, they are legal citizens.

It's pretty simple.
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>>55516481
Might want to find a source for that bud because this is nowhere close to true.

It's like saying america benefits from having a slave labour class.

It does benefit, but the last thing we want is to go backwards with this and let the jews have a huge advantage with the slave labour they're going to be able to use.
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>>55516399
Where did I say they create, I specifically used add.

Reading comprehension?

Hahahahhahahhahah
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>>55516801
How are they slaves when they get paid a salary and have rights?
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>>55513258
>The systematic deportation of a group under clear conditions, in numbers as great as 11 million can't ever happen peacefully.

Europe is going to take in this many invaders before 2020. If it can go one way it can go another.

Trump 2016 or the west is finished.
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>>55516956
Trump won't be taxing them

Literal Peasants
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>>55510583
Hahahahahahaha irellavent incompetent white boys throwing temper tantrums because they are now forced to compete with the same people they thought they were better than.
>Tyrone fucks all your crushes
>xiao lee takes all the upper jobs
>Sandeep takes all the mid level jobs
>Juan takes all the blue collar jobs
The white boy takes his 3 inch erect cock in his hand faps to amines and lives on autism dollars.
Hahahahaha how did you fall so far behind?
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>>55516956
they get paid next to nothing that's why.

it's the reason we really shouldn't be enabling china and buying chinese products because they have 50 cent an hour labour over there.

if we had chinese coming over and doing things cheaper than the spics, the spics would be angry too.
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>>55517195
Paco is scared that half of his people will be rounded up and deported.
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>>55517066
In a worldwide economical perspective, they actually are not peasants considering the pay relative to the world average wages.

For peasant description, see sub Saharan Africa.
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>>55517281

lol awesome.
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>>55517483
>In a worldwide economical perspective, they actually are not peasants considering the pay relative to the world average wages.
>world average wages
lol?

do you want america to become a 3rd world shit hole with 3rd world wages?

the last thing anyone wants is to regress to being a 3rd world shit hole with wages to reflect that.
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>>55517431
100% guarantee even with trump elected no one outside of illegal immigrant prisoners or the poor saps that get caught at the border will get deported. No one. I'm not scared at all I'm a citizen of this country.
Also
>that pic
>working
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>>55517431
How does 6 million or so illegal Mexicans constitute half of the total Mexican American population.

Basic math
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>>55513258

I hope a billion Somalis infest your shitty nation you retarded wood shoe wearing subhumans
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Nigger gets caught in multiple lies possible ending his campaign early.
>better talk shit about trump!
Why do we keep trusting niggers with any ounce of power?
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>>55510583

Into the trash he goes, just another establishment shill out to destroy the white people of America.
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>>55517625
How is the pay that illegals receive reflected on all American citizens?

It's only pertains to them, which constitutes an extremely small part of the work force.

Secondly, it's a capitalist economy, so businesses come first then employees. Employers want efficiency in their workers, that's what illegal Mexicans deliver. A business does what's best for their interest in this situation. Unlike when racial quotas are pressured by niggers, which are not even the best candidate for the job in question.

I have more admiration for how illegal Mexicans aquire a job than niggers complaint because they can't compete on a same level field.

Get it?

Hahhahahahhahahahahahhahahahaha
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>>55516485
I didn't make the part where it says "Still #1"
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>>55510698
Your post is the most stupid shit I have read in weeks
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>>55510583
>Deporting 11 million people will cause chaos and death.

I'm not seeing the issue here. Crime has consequences.
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>>55512688
He's a democratic plant, sounding crazy and discrediting the republicans is what he signed up for. /pol/ was right.
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>>55518432
>the most critical person in regards to Hillary is a DNC plant

This is how retarded you sound.
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>>55517625
Take a look at the average wages in the world, illegals pay in The USA makes them an upper class in the world.

Compare to the average pay in ssa countries, which are among the lowest in the world.

The world is fully aware of who the peasant are in contemporary times.

And who were slaves in past times.
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>>55518609
>falling for the ruse
>taking the cruise
Yeah I'm retarded. Hurr to the Durrrrrrre
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>>55518609
But Trump doesn't mention Hillary often compared to Bush, Cruz and 'here's how every question is how I will beat Hillary if I become the nominee' Christie
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>>55518348
Trump is an idiot.

There will always be illegal citizens.

Just like there will always be illegal guns.

No way in stopping it. It will happen, regardless.
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>supporting a Soros puppet like Carson

>>>/out/
>>>/trash/
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>>55512410
>>55512124

I don't even register shitposts all my brain sees is

[not an argument]

Appeal to conspiracy theory is literally a CIA tactic.

Every position is either supported by evidence or deduction, or not, there is not this magical category where ideas the government doen't like are illegitimate because you called them a name
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>>55510583


>Amnesty for those already in the counter makes sense, followed by building a fence to keep out further migrants.


Build wall first, then we can talk about amnesty.


Deportation squad idea is loony. We already have a federal department for that. They simply are doing there job because of executive mismanagement.
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It's going to work when the illegals realize they'll be crossing over into hostile territory they'll just not even bother cooking up schemes to come over.
Unless they're pushing drugs, and I'm sure the Trumphler DeporationSquads will be more than willing to bury drug smugglers in very quite places along the Mohave.
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