This man HAS to be defeated at all costs.
>""Whether it's taxes or wages, if they're too high we're not going to be able to compete with other countries," Trump said Thursday morning on Fox News."
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/12/politics/donald-trump-explains-wages-too-high-comment/index.html
This guy ACTUALLY BELIEVES that labor in the United States should be trying to compete with labor in developing countries. This guy ACTUALLY WANTS you, me, and everyone else in the country to work for 65 cents an hour so we can attract manufacturing jobs back from China and other developing countries.
This guy is insane and needs to be stopped NOW.
here's a trick, newfags
but "sage" into the options field and others wont be able to see your flag anymore /pol/
just try it out when you post ITT
>>55507553
You're an idiot for thinking that you will become a third world country with lower taxes on labor.
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>>55507553
>needs to be stopped NOW.
The word need is subjective. I don't feel that way.
I feel he NEEDS to be elected so all you liberal reddit kikes get blown the fuck out
no he said people should not be paid 15 dollars an hour for flipping burgers and he is right
>>55507553
>hurr durr we actually have to make americans work if we deport illegals
>hurr durr i actually have to put in effort to produce anything
>hurr durr how do people do things for themselves
>>55507622
Thanks Switzerland
>>55507629
Did you not read his statement? He said he thinks WAGES ARE TOO HIGH.
He says we should be COMPETING WITH OTHER COUNTRIES.
Which countries is he talking about? That's right. Developing countries. Countries like China where people work for 65 cents an hour.
That's what he said. It is right there in his own words. That is economic globalization run amok, and it needs to be stopped.
>>55507629
>Implying US isn't a 3rd world country already.
>>55507730
You are extrapolating things that aren't true.
Gas yourself.
So theyd rather kill job growth in favor of mo money fo dem programs
>>55507553
hes gonna win and youre gonna like it bitch
>>55507771
Uh, no, I'm not. It is right there in his own words.
What other countries are we going to be competing with for jobs that would require lower rages? All Trump talks about is "bringing jobs back." Now he wants to "bring jobs back" in conjunction with "drive down wages so we can compete."
It is clear as day what he means. This guy actually wants us to return to the gilded era, but with a massively devalued currency. What a disaster.
>>55507730
Hey dipshit, he's not going to lower the minimum wage. Even if he did, it would literally only affect the shittiest jobs in america.
>>55507622
>"sage" into the options
danke
First get the jobs back and move foward from there. While they may not be the best Jobs hard workers will have a way for advancement and not be dependent on the goverment. I fear the worst if we don't get trump. More liberal retardation.
>>55507622
thanks
>>55507553
OP is a faggot.
http://money.cnn.com/2011/02/10/news/economy/donald_trump_cpac/
"The comment repeated past statements from "The Apprentice" star, who has said he wants to put a 25% tariff on all Chinese imports, to level trade imbalances in the global economy."
He isn't talking JUST about driving SOME wages down--and there ARE artificially high wages in our economy--he's talking about balancing trade by imposing tariffs on slave labor countries that undercut us artificially. He's been saying that for years.
AND HE'S FUCKING RIGHT.
>>55507730
>He said he thinks WAGES ARE TOO HIGH.
Where? Post it here without removing or adding context, pls.
>>55507864
Hey, we forgive you for being a faggot, and misunderstanding.
>>55507956
The quote is in the OP.
Yeah you're right, let's just give everyone free everything, that'll surely help us compete in the world market.
Liberals are objectively fucking retarded.
>>55507553
If you cut wages, that doesn't means you can buy less, only if the prices stay the same.
No quote retard
>>55507553
that fact that we are hemeraging jobs to overseas counties or down mexico way is a very clear indication that we ARE in competition with these countries. Why do you think shit is made in china 8/10?
In order for jobs to remain here America has to be competitive place to start a business, if that means higher taxes on imports, or controlling the border so that our population stablizes
I bet you think that our country needs to be constantly growing in population to remain profitable, and other left bullshit designed to keep blue voters flooding into texas and arizona as well.
What if I told you getting immigration under control would stem the endless ways of off the books/under the table workers leeching money out the economy by not paying taxes, or sending it out of country to their homelands.
fewer workers means higher demand for workers, which means better pay naturally. There is a reason that the left, and the established right all want open borders.
It keeps the work force bloated and keeps it the market in favor of the employers.
>>55507553
pic related, its OP. we should listen to his economic advice.
>>55507684
but if wages actually increased with inflation burger flipping would be worth 22 bucks an hour anon. its just boomers bending over all the following generations for their own shitty greed.
>>55507553
THANKS I'LL BE SURE TO DO THAT BYEEEE
>>55507553
>Inflated wages killed the car industry
>Inflated wages killed Seattle
>Inflated wages killed most non-government unions
Hell Trump building a wall to keep illegals out will mean massive increase in pay for most entry level jobs.
>>55507553
Well here is the deal... He isnt wrong. But here is the problem with both him and you,,, yes you....
People like you never ask "How did people survive in the past on less?" When Henry Ford opened his *non union* factory over 100 years ago he was paying his workers something like 5 dollars a day. And if you reverse the math on that with inflation and other things... that translates to over 2200 dollars a week (my rounded guess comparing the other costs of goods).
You idiots never question why things have gotten more expensive and you always go after the wrong target.
>pic is old and silver is down but you get the idea
So first of all you need to protest the Fed and the almost infinite regulations pushing up costs more than an idiot like Trump.
Second of all Trump cares about Trump. He has some vague ideas on what to do when the dollar finally dies even if its in a weird half ass way. But he understands we wont be able to do anything unless we start building again and become a manufacturing economy over the consumer economy we are now.
I dont like Trump but ill tell you this... if Bernie of Hillary win. ITs over for the republic. And your vote will be partly to blame.
>>55507553
>Whether it's taxes or wages, if they're too high we're not going to be able to compete with other countries
That's a true statement though. Surprise surprise, companies are out for profits, not for the common american. This though
>This guy ACTUALLY WANTS you, me, and everyone else in the country to work for 65 cents an hour so we can attract manufacturing jobs back from China and other developing countries.
is a retarded strawman. He actually wants to penalize companies that do outsource jobs from America. He never said anything about making americans work slave labor.
>>55508408
but wages didnt even inflate that much anon, what really killed the car industry was allowing companies to build all their shit overseas in sweatshops for retardedly low cost, selling the products at full price here, and then pocketing all the profit instead of either circulating it back into the economy or creating jobs with it.
>>55508146
NO. If minimum wage had kept up with inflation since 1970, it would be about $9.80 per hour.
>>55508030
>if they're too high we're not going to be able to compete with other countries
Just as I thought. This is not the same as saying "wages are too high"
You're a liar.
>>55507629
He's talking about the corporate tax rate you nut.
>>55507955
BUT BUT BUT BUT THE FREE TRADE
>>55508615
Fuck free trade. Trump is not a globalist. He's literally running on an ANTI FREE TRADE platform. God bless him.
>>55508615
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/255053-trump-vows-to-renegotiate-or-break-trade-pact-with-mexico-canada
>>55507553
Defeat the man who tells you the truth about the world.
>>55508496
>not understanding the actual purpose of inflation is to avoid stagflation and increase spending
It's fine to be uneducated, but don't claim to have the intellectual high ground when all you do is regurgitate lolbertarian misinformation.
>>55507553
Hah no, he just wants Mr. Shekelberg to not be able to sell his shit in this country if he uses 65 cent developing world labor.
>>55507622
lies
>>55508717
spotted the guy that is unaware of production increases being skimmed off the top each year
![Lahey[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xjTwHA1.jpg "Lahey[2].jpg")
>>55508615
If you want access to the American market you should be prepared to either manufacture there or pay high tariffs to have your goods imported and sold.
A market of 320+ million people is nothing to shy away from.
>>55507553
mod should have banned you yesterday for those "trump is literally hitler" shill threads you had
>>55507553
He was referring to minimum wage, dumbfuck, and he's right.
Do you know why China is getting all the manufacturing jobs? Low-paid damn near slave labor.
Do you know why minimum wage increases are being fought? Because the people who want it aren't manufacturing cell phones, they're flipping burgers.
Flipping burgers was never meant to be a career. Any job that can be done by automation is a job on a potential chopping block, and demanding wage increases for a job that has NO REAL VALUE TO SOCIETY AND IS EASILY REPLACEABLE, is effectively low-paid workers signing their own pink-slip.
He's just stating an obvious but uncomfortable fact:
In this day and age, it's better to have A JOB, than no job. And if we raise minimum wage, there will be no jobs for a very large bracket of the population.
It's better to go after inflation and the root causes of it (debt spending for socialist programs) than to raise the minimum wage, because at least doing that would increase the value of the dollars earned. Raising the minimum wage without trying to head off debt spending is just throwing gasoline on a forest fire.
>muh wages
Labour is on the way out, people need to start adressing basic income measures
>>55507553
That's what I've been said for months now.
Trump wants a better economy based on his method to make money (use cheap labor en masse)
But who care about this shit anyway, he won't get elected, he's getting keked by Rand now, he's finished. And we should start discussing TPP it will be signed in 2 months..
>>55507955
>25% import tariffs
How to recession on day 1 as president
>>55508717
>trusting central banks with that power because Da guberment knows ebery ting! Bernie 2016!
Jesus we are fucked arent we?
>>55507622
>>55507629
for anyone who doubts the cyberwarfare taking place here are some fine examples.
these shills actually think your wages should be lowered.
>>55507553
Not everybody can be a Rocket Scientist, nor can everybody fit in your ivory tower.
>>>/REDDIT/
>>>/out/
ALSO THE WALL
>>55509535
You realise a debt-based economy can't survive without inflation right?
>>55509122
>>55509535
all that inflation in the 1970s was from monetary policy.
Why? because Nixon hired a treasury sec who was so incompetent that he went bankrupt in his personal life. EXACTLY like Trump.
>>55507553
But lowering taxes and minimum wages both help the economy. If you don't see how, it's because you are stupid. But your not paid to not be. I wasn't expecting much anyways.
>>55509856
how do you balance the budget if you decrease revenue by a huge amount?
>>55509845
Is it five now? I thought it was four
>>55509976
might be 6 by now i havent checked today
the man is very bad with money
>>55509931
By decreasing spending by a huge amount, and then decrease it again by a significant amount to get it to a reasonable level.
>>55510047
so what spending would you specifically cut? because it matters.
>>55507553
there's more than labor that goes into deciding where to manufacture dumbass. The U.S. has drasticallly lower energy costs, better infastructure, and the largest domestic market in the world. He's advocating a reform of the tax system.
>>55507553
We could raise tariffs for imports, so it disincentivizes cheap labor.
>>55507553
>not understanding how economic protection works
Lower, simpler, enforceable tax rates will be more effective than unenforced, deduction filled 35% tax rates that no one pays.
Keeping out illegal labor, increasing the cost of foreign labor will raise US standards.
Everything these foreign producers make is shipped back to the US anyway.
You increase the cost of shipping, and reduce the cost of taxes to the point where moving crap back and forth to and from America isn't as profitable as just making the shit here.
>>55510086
There are whole government agencies that could be eliminated or slashed. Many welfare benefits could be shrunk or eliminated. Most anything that would make a liberal upset is probably fair game for cuts.
Just by deporting illegals you could get massive savings on entitlement spending.
>>55510595
So youre saying you dont have a real political ideology just vague generalized statements mostly negative about other people you dont know and things you dont understand?
Have you calculated the cost of deporting these immigrants?
Can you just admit that you are not voting age or that you dont really follow politics? That you are edgy AF?
>>55507553
Even if he gets in he won't be able to do half of the things he wants to get done.
Firstly, liberals in congress can just refuse to do anything he comes at them with, but even if the neocons come in with a majority, then the liberal states can just create their own legislation to thwart the federal government, and who is to stop them? Rule of law? Give me a break.
Feinstein, Warren, and Leahy are going to dance around the White House on an elephant waving a big huge middle fingers. Oh, you think he will just arrest them, or use some executive force to bury the Democratic Party? That would be a really cute trick.
By the end of Trump's first year in office, if he even has an iota of the spunk that he has when he speaks at these debates, this nation will be in a heated and protracted civil war.
It will be absolutely beautiful.
We're done. We're finished. Cancel your American dream, unless you dream of hellfire and brimstone.
>>55510595
have you considered the increase in cost of produce when all the illegals are magically deported?
>>55507553
He will stump himself eventually, don't worry.
And he is starting to stump himself even more now that he decided to go soft on other candidates. All he has going for himself from the start was being this entertaining big mouth spouting a lot of nonsense. People enjoy that, and the dumb side of Murica loves it.
But by getting comfortable in the first position in the polls he thinks he can just tone it down and keep the current boat speed until nomination day. But he is wrong because he can't compete with other candidates on political grounds. He is going to be eaten alive, and this started to show on the last debate. Most of the time he looked like this big fat old stiff ignorant douche that had no idea what he was talking about, and was trying to appear relevant on the issues by speaking loud and repeating his buzzwords three times in a row.
Trump was having success on the polls by being this huge ironical candidate, but as he tries to be less ironical and more of a serious contender, we will realize how silly and weak his positions are and that he has no chance whatsoever to get the nomination.
You can't just bully, scream, insult and spout big words with no weight, into being a candidate for presidency. It's the begging of the end, just pay attention to it.
>>55510867
Can you give one real world example of this magical fire and brimstone that you cower in fear of?
GODMODE:not emotional hellfire. if a nigger gets medicine thats not annudah shoah no matter how hard you plead and beg for it to stop.
Trump is life
end minimum wage
BASED TRUMP
>>55508717
except we have experienced stagflation DESPITE inflating the monetary supply
statist fed shill status: shrekt
>>55510816
>Have you calculated the cost of deporting these immigrants?
have you calculated the costs of NOT deporting them?
>>55509551
Removing price floors=/= everyone's wage goes down you moron
It just means that American farmers who rely on illegal labor(because more expensive American labor due to price floors make it so it's cheaper to let their crops rot in the ground than harvest at those wage rates) can hire low skilled Americans who don't have jobs instead.
>>55509931
Lowering tax rates =/= lowering revenue
Look up the laffer curve.
It's been shown to be accurate over and over again. Taxation that is to high leads to shit like Detroit because people simply don't pay the retarded high taxes.
>>55510867
>waving a big huge middle fingers
English for progressives.
>>55511227
this, the cost of hiring men to tear down doors and forcibly but spics in prison bus seats is a drop in the ocean to the decades of rape the working class american has had to endure.
>>55509656
>Debt based currency cannot survive
Fixed
We learned this with the Romans
>>55511461
Let's put it differently: Debt-based currency needs inflation to postpone the inevitable.
(I actually use aquafresh)
>>55510869
you mean the 0% increase after lowering the minimum wage? Why yes I have. In fact it's the thought of all those unemployed American citizens that will then have an income that encourages my support of the plan.
Why do you hate Americans that you want to put them on the street? Do you hate America itself?
>>55510929
>it will be beautiful
>cower in fear
What the fuck are you daft?
Real world example provided on the left. You see typically in an instance where a state is so divided that the participants in power can no longer agree on principles, there is a stalemate, and no one can get anything done. This is a very costly time, not only in exacting an efficient body of government, but for the prestige of the leaders.
In some cases throughout history, the participants in power will literally divide themselves into a separate body of government, and govern themselves free from the authority of their rival branch.
It happens, truly, it's not a mythological concept that I just dragged out of my ass. In fact it is happening all over the world, you could even find examples of it on CNN, although I wouldn't value their example of news, it's very accessible.
People fight and die over what they believe in and tear each other apart. It gets real, I know, hard to bare.
Very very difficult times for everyone.
Do not bring the grand kids, and make sure you wear a good looking hat.
>>55507553
Trumpinomics is full retard. If Trump wasn't born with daddy money he would have been a failed shoe salesman working at Costco
>>55511343
>muh magic niggers in detroit
thats property taxes. holy fuck can republikids really be this unironically stupid?
>>55511653
Under this plan where are you getting your slaves from?
>>55511690
so you are claiming that a magic civil war will ruin everyones life forever? soon maybe? nice specifics.
Someone passing by looked at the image you used and read the contend said "Yup, I'm officially off the Trump train"
I think someone just felt the Bern.
Landslide: Inbound!
>>55511653
>you hate america because you do a thing i dont like reeeeeeeeee!
this is the face of the new republican party
>>55511917
Humanities Degree students.
>>55512111
nice ad hominim
do you really expect someone to want to work for the $2/day we pay mexican immigrants? who? why? how would they afford to live?
>>55511690
>you can find examples on CNN
>not on CNN though
please provide 1 real example of whatever you are babbling about
>>55512290
The same way the illegals live.
It's still more money than they'd get outside of school.
>>55510917
>You can't just bully, scream, insult and spout big words with no weight, into being a candidate for presidency
Says who? Trump has already broken new ground and blazed new trails with his candidacy, who's to say he won't prove more "conventional wisdom" like yours to be wrong?
You people talk about Trump like he's in fifth place. Let me remind you, he's in first place. And has been for months. He's doing exactly what you say he can't. You know why? Because he can. Because we want him to. And because there's precedent. Want, do you think Andrew Jackson gentleman'd himself into the White House? Americans like an alpha male. And this is anally ravaging the betas who like to pretend that their "sophistication" is the path to true enlightenment, and so they resent Trump for exposing them.
>>55511595
>debt based economy
Thats the fucking problem in the first place
>>55512391
they live in cardboard boxes
In cali 80% of latino families headed by a non citizen fall below the United Way annual household real costs budget. that means they cannot afford basic needs.
>>55512935
add up all the services they take advantage and you get another bad deal for working class America
union wages being too high was the biggest cause of out sourcing
>>55507771
kek. you trumpfags really only hear what you want to hear.
thank god most of you trumpfags on /pol/ are too young to vote.
>>55512935
We need to do something about that.
I'm gonna start up a charity fund to buy all those people a can of spray lacquer to waterproof their cardboard boxes.
>>55507553
>>55507730
What is ADJUSTING MARKETS.
Everyone having lower wages? prices adjust since else companies cant sell anything to people.
It's really that fucking hard. The only thing he needs to do to make this system work, is to get rid of the corrupt, business-favouring legislation from the law code.
>>55507553
>stating the general fact that if wages are too high, it won't be good for trade
>HEADLINE HEADLINE TRUMP WANTS TO ABOLISH MINIMUM WAGE AND SCHOOL, PUT YOUR KIDS IN SWEAT SHOPS
Why are Democrats so unabashedly dishonest?
>>55512350
You had to read an entire paragraph about what happened leading up to the American Civil War, and a picture of the conflict, before you reached the part of my post where you picked out some easy to understand points, which you failed to understand, and then you still asked for a real life example of a civil war.
What pills are you taking to be so ignorant? Is there a market where you're from where people just go to buy stupidity in stock?
You should kill yourself before the war comes home, because no one on either side will have any use for a person who is so stupid as you.
Really, shoot yourself, this isn't a joke, go into your grandpa's garage and see if you can dig up his M1, because you're stupid and a shame to your family name.
Trump intends to increase import tax and decrease business tax so it's more expensive to pay cheap workers and import than it is to pay more expensive workers and manufacture in the United States.
There's also minimum wage, which Trump says is a state issue, so factories would have to at least pay that.
>>55511396
Holy shit Britain, you guys get raped at work?
>>55511227
Have you?
>>55511227
>>55511396
>>55513694
Is one of you 'hur costs too much to deport them' faggots the guy who last night said it would cost 13 trillion dollars, pretty much our entire debt twice over, to deport 11 million people? Fucking kill yourself.
>>55513694
Yeah. National suicide. America becomes Mexico 2.0 and your grandchildren resent you for it.
>>55508408
>people get paid too much
Go back to democrat underground please sanders
>>55507622
NEVER TRUST THE MOUNTAIN JEW
HIS LANGUAGE IS MADE OF LIES
You guys really need to learn some austerity
And yes I know I need to learn some border control
>>55513573
>You should kill yourself before the war comes home, because no one on either side will have any use for a person who is so stupid as you.
Okay that's wrong. A good conscript could be made out of anybody.
>>55512350
The point still stands that civil war is not a myth, and I'm shocked that you can't grasp that. It's like... you made it through second grade while daydreaming about what color underwear your crush was wearing two seats away from you while the teacher went on 50 minute lectures about the 1860s and 70s.
I bet you're still doing that whenever anons on /pol/ post about civil unrest occurring all over the world. You're daydreaming about fucking while Ukraine is abscessing all of Eastern Europe, and the migration crisis is bringing the rest of Europe to a screeching halt that will surely end in many countries the same way the Serbian migration conflict did.
You fucking nerf herder.
>>55507553
>>55507730
I propose we make this into an EAT SHIT, BERNIE thread, since this is an obvious Bernie shill
>>55513753
13Trillion is about half our debt if you include unfunded liabilities. It's still less than the 18Trillion we owe now.
>>55507553
Thats not how economies work kid
>>55513753
Quality response. Maybe you should focus on shit that isn't petty and will cost us more than its worth. Go after employers and strip all benefits and incentives from illegals. Actually save us Money
Tfw there will never be a jeffersonian democracy
>>55509491
We need a reset. The recession was supposed to do that. But we artificially propped it up.
>>55509976
It's 3ish. One of the buildings was already insolvent when he bought it, then turned it over for restructure. He saved the building and saved the jobs, bankers got fucked but w/e. This is actually a bullshit talking point. Bankruptcy isn't that big a deal in America.
>>55510086
According to the GAO, if you cut the waist and redundancy they found in their audit, it would save ~$700billion/yr.
>>55507553
>devalue currency
>no longer can afford imports
>all products must be made in america to be economically viable
we can't lose
>>55507622
what's this about? can someone explain
>>55510816
Illegals cost us $54.5b/yr in welfare, $13.3b/yr in incarceration, and ~$20b/yr in remittance. That doesn't include the costs of lost taxes and insurance payments or lowered wages due to undercutting the value of labor by not paying into the system. The most liberal estimates for deportation include creating an entirely new agency and logistic line, would cost ~$20b/yr.
Would you like to know more?
>>55507622
Kek
>>55514798
yes post a source for the welfare figure.
a quick google search reveals that in 2014 welfare costs totaled 82 billion so youre insisting that illegals collect a majority of all welfare dollars. source please.
>>55507622
test
>>55507553
I would like to see how long stability lasts in America with 65 cents an hour and jobs with fiercer conditions than there are that exist in the States today.
They're rioting over 8.50 and work hours, and he wants to turn America into a giant sweat shop producer.
That'll work, sure.
Cities will burn if this man gets elected.
>>55507730
>telling students all their life problems are fixed if you go to "higher education"
>higher education tells these kids they can get degrees in TV criticism and 50 Shades of grey
>thinking there's jobs that hire for those degrees as opposed to actual work
>thinking working and manufacturing jobs being brought back is the problem
>thinking USA is that wealthy that were above actual work for money
I swear it's only Millenials who think like this. They don't understand the reality of work, bosses and salary. Put in a good job and you'll get paid good and move ahead (especially if all the manufacturing jobs are brought back). Instead they're being told to blame others for their shortcomings and demand free shit as repairations. It's literally insane. Indoctrinated youth has never been so true as it is now.
>>55515775
I'm sure you're one of those tards who think the employment rate is 5% is the truth when they don't count citizens dropped workforce or part timers. You're legit a fucking crybaby who wants to fucking cry saying he's going to enslave you when th e reality is you're afraid to be pushed into doing actual work after being told your entire life you can do ANYTHING like alternating special little snowflake
>90% of us workers are in services.
>Designing products and then outsourcing manufacturing to poorer countries is so based that world systems theorists consider it "exploitation" and think its the reason western "proletariats" are so wrll off and dont want a communist revolution.
At least lennin and wallerstein? knew they are trying to achieve communism.
The fuck is trumps excuse for wanting to ruin america.
>>55516862
The stat is actually inflated cause of people trying to scam for EI.
At any rate if a 15 year old kid can secure employment why the fuck should i care about full adults that cant.
>>55515775
>Assuming that the fiscal deficit for these unreported households was the same as the fiscal deficit for the unlawful immigrant households in the CPS, the total annual fiscal deficit (total benefits received minus total taxes paid) for all 3.79 million unlawful immigrant households together equaled $54.5 billion (the deficit of $14,387 per household times 3.79 million households). This sum includes direct and means-tested benefits, education, and population-based services.
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/05/the-fiscal-cost-of-unlawful-immigrants-and-amnesty-to-the-us-taxpayer
Welfare spending is ~$500b/year.
>>55510867
Good thing Obama set a nice precedent for issuing executive orders for literally anything you want, right?
Just fuck off. Trump can and will do all the things he promises. He's not controlled by anyone.
Trump just killed his shot at getting elected, and I was actually going to vote for him, ROFL.
>>55507553
Daily Reminder that we are targeted by paid Shillary faggots who do nothing but post Shilary talking points.
CANNOT STUMP THE TRUMP
>>55510867
This. Hitler wasnt able to do any of the things he wanted either. The weihmer republics rigid democracy with both a pm and a president really stopped him from achieving his goals.
>>55508717
>not understanding that you cannot infinitely inflate
>>55516947
>implying 15 year Olds can get sustainable wage jobs from McDonald's and fast food
>implying 15 year Olds could legally work
>implying offering competition along with actual concrete jobs is a bad solution to fixing out 20 trillion deficit
>implying this country can ever recover if every othe r country has the means of employment
Your a Canada cųck who voted for DUDE WEED LMFAO DUDE DIVERSITY CABINET 2015, YOU ARE LITERALLY LITERALLY RETARD.
>>55507553
How very short sighted of you. Yes, the US can continue to "succeed" on the backs of developing nations' cheap labor, but what happens in 50-100 years when those nations have developed into first world?
Trumps only appeal was his deportation plan. It's literally the only reason he has support.
>>55507553
>>55514742
Leaf bro, when you send a message you have a little box with written ''options'' on it.
The chocolate faggot suggests that by putting ''sage'' in that box you flag wont be vibible, it is bullshit.
I put sage on it, and my flag will appear anyway.
>>55507553
No.
>>55517014
The only people who use "ROFL" anymore, even ironically, are people who still use an AOL email account.
>>55514141
Ear shit, Bernie
>>55507553
/pol/'s been flooded with Trump hate threads lately, so I'm not going to pretend like I read your diatribe.
Trump is our only chance to deport all of our shitskins and repair America's demographic crisis. Whites will soon be a minority in the US if we don't elect Trump, only he can rescue us from this mess. I don't give a fuck about anything else.
CAN'T STUMP THE TRUMP
>>55517138
15 year olds can be legally employed.
>>55507955
For people who say it would destroy the economy, I'm pretty sure the tarrifs would be introduced slowly over some period of time to allow businesses to adapt.
>>55507553
republicans have always supported having their wages lowered, i've never really understood why
>>55517152
Automation. The idea we want to compete with robots is ridiculous. Everything will be automated and socialism institutionalized. This is the future, no amount of crying will stop it. The value of most human labor is dropping to 0.
>>55517332
It's not about having wages lowered. It's about letting the market do its thing. By artificially setting a high minimum wage, you remove purchasing power, drive up costs unnecessarily, and lose people from the workforce.
>>55517009
obama has issued less executive orders than most presidents
take your fox news memes and shove them up your gaping faggot ass
>>55517414
Then we should probably not be importing cheap labor.
>>55517009
>Just fuck off
You sound really angry that I'm right.
>Trump can and will do all the things he promises
And really desperate to believe in your illusion. Would you like some candy, baby, before Rome burns? What do you like, I have some Push Pops for you, does baby want a Push Pop?
Koochie koochie koo.
>>55517540
This is strange.
>>55517540
I have a feeling this is the new shill, they're adapting.
>>55517451
if those wages don't lower, then how does having a floor affect it, clearly the market is above that floor
>>55517138
>implying 15 year Olds can get sustainable wage jobs from McDonald's and fast food
Muh cant afford nyc apartment on $7.50 an hour
>implying 15 year Olds could legally work
What is it 16? Change it then.
>implying offering competition along with actual concrete jobs is a bad solution to fixing out 20 trillion deficit
The fuck is "competition" and how does the government create it? You mean competition to individual firms? Already exists, called the free market
>implying this country can ever recover if every othe r country has the means of employment
Except usa is already 90% services based economy believe it or not on a global scale a burger flipper in the usa is worth a LOOT more than most manufacturing jobs. the reason we dont have jt in america is because people are to skilled and affluent for it to be worth their while. That and muh $20 an hour union snowflakism aka see detroit
>Your a Canada cųck who voted for DUDE WEED LMFAO DUDE DIVERSITY CABINET 2015, YOU ARE LITERALLY LITERALLY RETARD.
I voted torry but even if this slur of ad hominem were true. Legal weed is probably a better economic stimulant then teying to localize manufacturing again. Why dont you just ban plow cultivators? America has been fucked since it destroyed all the agricultural jobs. What are they gonna do for money now?
>>55507622
Why is this important to you?
>>55507553
>costs aren't relative
>>55507553
>everyone in America needs to make 400 dollars an hour
Oh fuck, all our jerbs are moving to Mexico and China, what the fuck??!?/1//11
>>55517698
Does your retarded cousin produce $15/hr worth of labor? Probably not. But he probably could produce $5/hr worth of labor as a shopping cart collector at the grocery store. But since he can't be hired for that, we have cashiers and managers going around collecting carts in "downtime" because the store can't hire your retarded cousin.
>>55511343
>wages drop
>can finally get a job at 5 bucks an hour
>still not make enough to afford rent because land owners would rather have empty buildings than lower the rent
>still cant make enough to afford decent food
>working 40 hours to week to still be homeless and be forced to eat shitty fast food or go hungry.
this is what will happen in my area at least. there are vacant buildings for homes and businesses all over the place because people refuse to drop rent, and they already have enough money that they dont need to fill it for less than they want.
>>55517768
What about manufacturing electronics here instead of China? The food processing plants that are being moved to other countries? Do you not understand why that is happening? Are you really this stupid
Yes you are and I can tell you voted for JT, DUDE WEED LMAO
>>55518006
sounds like those cashiers and managers are due for a raise with the increased responsibilities
>>55507553
why does kenya care so much about donald trump?
>>55518196
One would think. But it doesn't work out that way. There is no worker negotiation in our market. This is the a result of a single policy.
>>55507553
>This guy ACTUALLY WANTS you, me, and everyone else in the country to work for 65 cents an hour so we can attract manufacturing jobs back from China and other developing countries.
You fucking idiot
Do you not understand that there are shipping costs that need to be paid for the product to get over here from a world away?
Not only that, but we also impose tariffs on them.
So just think about how it could feasibly be possible for us to ship parts to China from somewhere like Indonesia, have it assembled in China, and have the finished product shipped all the way over here all while spending money on tariffs imposed on them.
That is actually unbelievable.
>>55518359
^isnt the result.
>>55518057
Because it cheaper there on account of the west being more developed? Because we have an economy designing those goods and selling them? Because we benefit from cheap labour?
Weren't you the one who was complaining about the unemployment rate? Cause its actually respectably low. The economy is a fluid thing. If what was profitable 400 years ago was now, we'd all be living on farms. Manufacturing is done its course as well. We will use cheap labour less and less until its mostly automated. In the mean time id rather be the country designing the robots then the one hitting the button
>>55517453
Funny enough, the facts contradict your graph
http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/executive-orders/disposition.html
>>55518440
Our unemployment rate isn't a reflection of reality.
>>55518592
Agreed. Ei bums inflate it. And it doesn't take frictional unemployment into account
>>55518961
Frictional?
>>55517285
Electing Trump would also put his sons in line to be president too.
>mfw America gets a Trump dynasty and we have a Trudeau dynasty
>>55507864
He's smart enough to see the inevitable. America has been predicted to turn into a third world shit hole, Trump objectively recognizes what must be done.
Time to throw away your degree and stand at your post in in the assembly line. Bitches
>>55519134
"Frictional unemploymentis the time period between jobs when a worker is searching for, or transitioning from one job to another. It is sometimes called searchunemploymentand can be based on the circumstances of theunemployedindividual."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frictional_unemployment
>>55519505
Gotcha. Our unemployment rate is calculated using the number of workers who were not employed and were looking for employment, within the last four weeks. That most definitely does not represent the realities of our job market.
>>55519991
Pretty sure both long term and short term are measured.
>>55520178
They are, but on a different table, not reported in press releases. The actual unemployment rate is twice as high as officially released (table U6 as opposed to table U3). That also doesn't reflect the fact "full time employment" has been defined as 30hrs/wk, part time workers, conditional workers, or all the poor fuckers like me working three part time jobs.
>>55507770
You obviously have no fucking idea what the word means you faggot. By definition the USA could never be a third world nation
another day, another failed stumping of trump by an idiot OP with no understanding of money
Why do you keep trying? You can't stop Trump.
>>55507553
all politicans feel this way about the plebs, they just arent stupid enough to say it. This keeps the business left/right paradigm spinning for each election cycle.
>>55508067
Your logical answers are unwanted here scumbag
China has incredible economic surplus, they also have astounding amounts of available work.
The US has incredible economic debt, and has no available manufacturing jobs.
It's almost like there's some correlation.
>>55507553
I cannot tell if you're that stupid to strawman and believe it's valid or are just Shitposting.
Good job OP.
>He wants $10 an hour to flip a burger
>>55507553
Dude, he wants a tax cut for everyone. How is that not a no-brainer?
>>55507622
forgot about system32
>>55509097
>Have some money, go fuck and breed more useless children who also need basic income.
>>55507684
This a thousand times
>>55507622
thanks :^)
>>55507553
>that's what leftist cretins actually believe
Trump IS a retarded piece of shit, but he is no more retarded than his leftist counterparts. And out of everything he sais, this is probably one of the few correct things.
>>55509845
Trump has never been bankrupt you stupid kuck.
Out of over one hundred businesses, only three (not 5 you lair) of his have failed. Most people never succeed once in business.
>>55509845
The fact that some of his businesses have failed is more impressive since he is still so damn powerful today. Even if he did go bankrupt 5 times (which is false), the fact that he came back from bankruptcy 5 times and is still one of the most powerful business men in the world is impressive as hell.
>>55507553
>This guy ACTUALLY BELIEVES that labor in the United States should be trying to compete with labor in developing countries. This guy ACTUALLY WANTS you, me, and everyone else in the country to work for 65 cents an hour so we can attract manufacturing jobs back from China and other developing countries.
It wont be that low, we still have a minimum wage, and it's going to get raised. Not as much as crying whiny liberal bitches want
>>55524308
>Trump IS a retarded piece of shit, but he is no more retarded than his leftist counterparts.
Democracy is all about horrible people trying to get into power, and voters trying to keep them out.
Batshit crazy partisan politics are how the horrible people get into power.
The only way out of this is for the voters to wake up and recognize it for what it is.
Just don't vote for horrible people, ever. There's no such thing as "voting against" someone. It's not really a two-party system. The rest of the voters aren't all crazy idiots who actually want the horrible person they're voting for. They just feel trapped in the idea of choosing between horrible people and somewhat more concerned with the horrible person you think is somewhat less bad.
Try to get together and vote in somebody who's not horrible for once.
>>55525054
So Trump?
Because I want America to be white, Anglo-Germanic again.
>>55514325
tfw we will never have another Sobieski or Batory to lead us to our glory
>>55507553
Trump will win no matter what
Actually Trump's platform all along is that there she be tariffs on imported goods to make it more worthwhile to manufacture goods in America and pay those wages than it is to manufacture them in Mexico or China and pay the tariffs.
>>55507553
>sagged
>>55507864
High labor costs cause unemployment. Unemployment destroys states for good. It's rising costs and shrinking revenue that feeds into itself.
Thing is, lowering labor costs doesn't mean you instantly go to a sub $1 a day economy. The existing market, education and other factors mean wages are still going to be quite high. Just not as high as present. Low enough that everyone is employable and no lower than that.
Sure, the cost of living must go down to make lower wages palatable. That's also a good thing. No one benefits from salty rents. Everyone should be able to save up and gather wealth, even if they're lowly low paid labourers.
>>55525144
>I want America to be white, Anglo-Germanic again.
That's nice and all, but Trump's not going to do that.
He's talking about kicking out the illegals, not ethnic cleansing.
Why do you think you need to elect a horrible idiot, to get someone who agrees with you on a few points of policy? Don't you think that, somewhere in the USA, there's a smart, reasonable, honest person who thinks that there should only be lawful immigration, and illegal immigrants should be deported?
Canada just failed at this badly. We didn't get any worthwhile options on the ballot. It's not too late to get things right in the USA.
>>55511874
Confirmed for knowing fuckall about Detroit
>>55513052
idk senpai a lot of sandersniggers are too young to vote too
>>55517014
sure you were sandersfag
>>55509583
>tfw Donald Trump is a name recognised by Codsworth
>tfw Ronald Reagan is a name recognised by Codsworth
>tfw Obama isn't recognised
>tfw Hillary Clinton isn't recognised
>tfw Bernie isn't recognised
