Of those left, which one is the RNC establishment shill? The moderate one they'll push through, no matter what, just like Romney in 2012?
I used to think it was Bush; now I'm not so sure...
>>55500138
It's Rubio, and I say that while being in a senior campaign staff position.
Nothing wrong with it, it's just that all the Bush money is going to come our way soon.
rubio hes starting get more funding from special interest
carson comes second he is the "look all republicans aren't racist!" plant
>>55500138
Rubio. It's pretty obvious
My bet is Rubio
>>55500193
2nd is actually Carly, the token "We tried!" "We arent all men!" Candidate.
Carson has a pretty grassroots campaign
>>55500138
rubio is all they've got left,
>>55500138
Rubio
>Young
>Not white
>reasonably attractive
>Tows party line like a good Goy
Rubio is the current establishment shill.
He was originally a backup, and Fiorina is there to be the VP establishment female candidate.
They will settle for Cruz as a last resort, but since he's not all in when it comes to establishment shit, they would prefer otherwise.
>>55500138
May I ask what is wrong with Rubio?
I wan't to know what /pol/ thinks of him and his policies.
>Inb4 he supports Israel
So does Trump
>>55500138
Carson and Rubio.
Carson is the sleeper shill.
>>55500365
He looks whiter than Bush, Paul, and Kasich.
>>55500138
Rubio, Bush and Christie were the only ones to start with. Rubio is all that is left. VP could still be anyone.
Hillary will be the next POTUS.
>>55500138
Bush was supposed to be the guy, but he flopped miserably. Then they tried to hype up Fiorina and shilled hard for her, but she went nowhere. Now it's Rubio's turn and I think he's in it for the long haul and is their guy. It's a shame because if he wasn't for amnesty and weak on immigration in general he would actually be a great candidate. Also the party is going to do whatever it takes to stop Trump even if it ultimately means pushing Carson.
>>55500573
>Weak
>Doesn't think deporting 11 Million people is practical
No. /Pol/ is just fucking delusional.
Why should we waste money to deport people who are working, don't have criminal records, and have American children.
>inb4 BECAUSE SPICS
Hard working, family oriented, capable of intellectual careers.
>>55500508
He's whiter than Carson too.
>>55500187
Why do brazilians in south Florida hate Cubans so much?
>>55500254
Grassroots as in hes the pseudo intellectual evangelicals & conservatives crave
>>55500696
This
This is why they booed trump. Wall is a great idea... deporting millions os not
>>55500696
>>55500787
Found the kuks
>>55500782
Yeah he's picking up the support Santorum and Huckabee had last time. It's funny because both of them tried to be more moderate this election and lost all their support instantly.
What is truly tragic about the GOP though is that Kasich and Jindal both have proven track records and effective governors and neither has remotely been in this race.
>>55500787
he doesn't have to round them up. cut the flow of welfare and the job incentives and and he'll starve them out
>>55500138
Has anyone read anything about the GOP lanes, they are supposed to be 4 lanes or sections of the party with their favoured candidate.
The lanes in order of voting power
1 Christian/evangelical Conservative
2 Tea Party
3 Moderate/business Conservative
4 Libertarian
Kasich is moderate but too moderate to get any support
Bush is moderate
Rubio is moderate
Trump is Tea party then Christian conservative
Carson is Christian then Tea party
Cruz is Tea party
Fiorina is Moderate then tea party
Paul is liberal
Santorum is Christian
Christie is moderate
Huckabee is Christian
Jindal is moderate/Christian
It's pretty interesting because Bush is a moderate and because he's being doing so badly in the polls most of his supporters have ditched him and supported the other moderate Rubio.
I think if you took enough time to look at polls you could figure out who benefits when certain candidates drop out or fall in the polls
>>55500441
Amnesty. Hispanics vote blue. Period. Amnesty is the final nail for Republicans but they all came out against Trump's "racism" to fish for Hispanic votes and appear PC. Now they're locked in to it.
They're never going to get the Hispanic vote. "Natural conservatives" is bullshit. I should know, I am one. And my family are the lowest of the low information voters.
>>55500952
Yeah I really don't think the GOP can suddenly turn a bunch of people who have always voted blue to vote red in less than a year it takes several.
>>55500892
Ted Cruz is pretty heavy duty evangelical
I'm a moderate and I support Trump
Rubio.
>Spend a trillion more on military
>Shill for big banks
>Widen deficits
>Muh social conservative
He's basically shillary light, controllable, an empty vessel.
The establishment will love him.
>>55500138
>The moderate one they'll push through, no matter what
Let's get one thing straight here. Ron Paul never enjoyed the numbers Trump is getting, and the RNC does not have the money to drown out Trump once he decides to start spending that billion dollars he talks about from time to time. This is the calm before the storm. Trump's phase two of his campaign has yet to begin.
>>55501084
I agree I'd say that's the next category Cruz fits into
>>55500844
>Jindal
>Impressive track record
Top. Fucking. Kek.
>>55500138
Rubio. A faux conservative like Trump will never get the nod.
>>55500952
>Hispanics vote blue. Period
Which is why it will take a hispanic President to turn them red.
>>55501239
>Trump's phase two of his campaign has yet to begin.
This isn't even my final form.
>>55500441
He's bought and sold
>>55500696
When will this hardworking, family oriented meme die. They will always vote blue, not assimilate, view themselves as an opposed minority like nigs, have the victim mentality, and want gibsmedat. Legalizing them will create 10 million more democrat voters and many more to come. Amnesty will be the death of the Republican Party. They have to go.
>>55500892
>Has anyone read anything about the GOP lanes, they are supposed to be 4 lanes or sections of the party with their favoured candidate.
I'm not sure I agree with this subdivision of republican influence. It leaves the "moderate/business" class as the overwhelmingly largest and most undefined. Tea Party is vanishingly small right now and might better be summarized as "anti-establishment".
The moderates are partly republican light candidates and establishment shills.
Bush for instance isn't really a moderate, he's just an establishment and corporate stooge. Trump is more anti-establishment than part of the "christian conservative", in fact polling shows his voters to be a bigger mix of republicans than any other candidates. That is, the Trump voters are no block in the republican party, maybe they're a block unto themselves.
Cruz is the only one who's literally tea party.
>It's pretty interesting because Bush is a moderate
Again I think this election is much better defined as establishment vs anti-establishment. People are just sick of the establishment in both parties. It looks like Hillary will win against Sanders, but he wouldn't have gotten his numbers at all if a large part of dems weren't tired of how fucking fake she is.
Trump's support obviously speaks against the GOP, as does Carson.
>>55500696
How do they know they aren't criminals if they are undocumented?
Why should people who came in illegally have a job and not the people who came legally/live there?
>in b4 hurr durr they are just lazy
>>55501373
>>55500441
He was supposed to be making a practice run for when he is a little older and more experienced.
But when Jeb failed Rubio had to stab him in the back and put him down like a sick dog, so that he could step up to the plate as the corporately financed blank slate
>>55501293
No. Hispanics want GIBS ME DAT every bit as much as blacks do. Sometimes more. Free healthcare? Free college? Free housing? Free food?
Solid fucking blue. For generations.
>>55500138
bush or rubio, it's not even a debate.
which is a good call for the republikeks as a whole anyway. the rest of them are simply unelectable, no matter what your personal opinion of them.
minus kasich i guess but he's just not likeable enough and doesn't have the traction to make anything happen. he would win over a lot of independent/moderate voters on the fence though, much more so than the rest of them.
>>55501449
>That is, the Trump voters are no block in the republican party, maybe they're a block unto themselves.
> that's actually probably pretty accurate
>>55500696
>and have American children.
The children of mexican citizens are mexican, no matter where they're born.
It was probably Bush until they realized he was unelectable.
Rubio seems obvious now, but him and Cruz are the type of cookie cutter politicians who are great at winning mayoral races, but haven't occupied the White House in a long, long time, if ever. Rubie 2016 would be a straight-to-video sequel to Romney 2012. It won't end well. Whether the GOP has learned its lesson, we'll see.
But I'm thinking the GOP may actually take a chance with Carson.
>>55501468
Yeah it's a shame, he would be a great president and leader if you could trust him
>>55500787
The wall is useless if we don't deport illegals. Every Republican policy is useless if we don't deport illegals.
Those illegals shit out children like some sort of insect species. And 7 to 1 they vote Democrat.
People like you need to ask yourself the following question: "Why do the Democrats really agree with me on deportation?" They Democrats agree with you because where you see 11-30 million "hard workers" they see 11-30 million future lifelong Democrats.
You people will be the undoing of the GOP as we know it, and ultimately America as we know it.
>>55501571
>But I'm thinking the GOP may actually take a chance with Carson.
If they do, be prepared to be amazed at the open racism from the left over how the GOP got their own pet nigger. They already play up the Uncle Tom shit openly in newspapers and it'll get worse in an actual race.
Of course they'll get away with it too, because the left can't be racist. Racism = right wing + opinion, as we all know.
>>55500952
This. I can tell you looking from the UK that you cannot beat certain groups when one side is offering free stuff.
Our Muslims vote overwhelmingly for Labour despite the fact you'd think being more conservative, they'd vote for a conservative party. It's because free stuff, immunity from prosecution for certain crimes if you're ethnic, the ability to claim oppression and thus get more free stuff, and having a party that will actually pander to you in anything you do just for your race will always win out over sharing a few conservative opinions with the other side.
Now add in a media and education system that constantly associates one party with racism and hatred and you're fighting not just against the fact that the other side is literally bribing them to vote, but also that they've been indoctrinated to think "being against illegal immigration=wanting you dead" and "not mentioning minorities and racism in every speech=they hate you and want you dead".
As long as the media has its stranglehold, the education system is basically propaganda, and the Democrats can bribe them with "social programs" and promises of quotas and more, Republicans will never ever win.
Self-responsibility is never a popular message to the masses.
>>55501425
Dude have you even met mexicans?
They're literally the best illegal immigrants we could have. It's not like they're Somalians or fucking arabs dude
Trump. Why pay someone when they do it for free? Just make him seem like the unwanted underdog.
>>55501527
Jeb is unelectable, but a lot of people are pretty put off by Rubio's unbelievably obvious corporate and establishment shilling.
>he doesn't have the experience to hide it yet
>>55501293
You're nuts. Hispanic peasants don't give a fuck about principles of any kind. Just look at Latin America. All they want is free shit and to punish the rich.
It's like everyone forgets that Hispanics are Catholics. Do you know what Catholics are like politically??
>>55501729
i'm talking about the general election. any candidate except for those 2 (or 3 if you count kasich) will lose a in a landslide despite what the /pol/ echo chamber likes to spout, because they are the only ones who can get moderates to vote for them.
>>55501669
Also true.
As much as I want Trump to win, he'll drop if the GOP doesnt nominate him, and I think a lot of other anons are correct in asserting that it will be Rubio. Bush is simply too weak. He plays it TOO safe.
>>55501682
Just because herpes is a better disease to get than HIV, doesn't mean I want to get herpes. Fuck off paco.
>>55500884
>cut welfare
They arent niggers, they actually work
they're already pushing rubio hard right now on fox news, saying he's the one to beat while he sits back in 5th place lol
these c ucks just dont want trump and will do anything to stump him
>>55501449
The moderates are the establishment anyone who's had a political career, the anti establishment is the tea party.
the largest voter block of the GOP is the Christian voter.
The Tea party and the Christian voter both agree on some issues so can blend together sometimes.
>>55501682
No. Just no. Mexicans are fucking repulsive.
>>55501682
This is pretty true. My wife was in service industry. Called them "little cockroaches"
There's a billion of them, kind of icky, they are persistent, if you get rid of one, there's 10 waiting behind them. They work hard as hell and don't really ask for much.
Compare to Haitians, Africans, etc. Way better immigrants.
>>55500441
He supports starting world war 3 with Russia over muds.
He supports amnesty and open borders, which is cultural genocide. He is also bought by big business to keep illegals here for cheap labor.
He supports government intervention in the domestic market and expanding the h1b visa program to allow big business execs to reap huge profits via cheap labor while taking jobs away from Americans.
He supports corporate internet monitoring which allows corporations to harvest data so they can utilize group psychology to advertise more effectively.
He supports TPP because it enables corporations to use cheap foreign labor to manufacture products and perform services.
>>55501844
Jesus, with these fucking lies. It just never ends.
>Welfare use varies among immigrant groups. Households headed by immigrants from Central America and Mexico (73 percent)
http://cis.org/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-Native-Households
>>55501918
You'll notice, btw, that Mexican immigrants are more likely to use welfare than African immigrants. Let that sink in.
Mexicans are terrible people. They're good beasts of burden. Oxen work hard too, but I wouldn't allow them to vote in our elections.
>>55501669
nah. maybe in fringe bullshit leftist publications, but these are just the answer to fringe bullshit right media like breitbart/the blaze etc, and will always publish stupid shit even when there isn't an election going on.
honestly the left won't have any need to be "racist", since carson's absurd views and opinions speak for themselves (muh pyramids, muh tithe, muh anti-vax, etc etc)
>>55501557
This, my middle sisters were born here and they think they are american but both their parents are mexican.
Like no stfu you are fucking mexican.
>>55501804
>quoting alinsky as "evidence" that leftists are trying to drum up support for socialism
>not realizing that the right + tea party regulaly use the tactics described in his book to drum up their own support
nice meme kiddo. stay in school.
>>55501669
How would that hurt him or the GOP exactly?
Another point I forgot to make about Carson is that I don't think he just came of nowhere. He is very close friends with W, was appointed to The President's Council on Bioethics in 2004, and awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 2008, at the peek of Obama's popularity. That last point leads me to believe that he has been being groomed for a very long time. He might just be the establishment candidate, with Rubio as the backup.
>>55500892
Who's going to drop out next?
This is what I think will happen
Paul but maybe some moderates will benefit from Kasich dropping out and vice versa.
Once Jindal, Huckabee, Santorum go Carson's polling will improve.
If Christie goes it gets split amongst the Moderates.
Then whoever drops out first between Bush and Fiorina will see their supporters split amongst the moderates.
If Paul goes his supporters I'm guessing won't turn out.
Rubio, Trump, Carson, Cruz Paul
>>55500952
This
Beaners are just niggers with Spanish names. Once they're legalized they'll be down at the welfare office with La-A
>>55502056
Please share these Alinsky tactics used by libertarians for propaganda.
>>55502181
This picture is depressing.
>>55501682
your opinion will change when you meet more of them
It's Rubio. He's likable, he's prettier than Cruz and yet more of a spic than Cruz. Bush is probably just there so people will roll their eyes at him and think oh thank god we have Rubio.
What we need right now is for Trump to make a pact with either Cruz or Fiorina, where they go after Rubio hard so Trump can continue to be dismissive toward him. The dangerous thing about Rubio is he's smart and yet he knows to keep things simple when he talks, while the others start trying to explain things to the voters as though they are giving a master class. This makes him a seductive candidate even for people who don't like him.
If we had a less offensive Democratic candidate this wouldn't be the case, but this time around a lot of Republicans are eager to sign a deal with any devil they must just to keep her out of the White House.
In truth we are FAR better off with Hillary Clinton than we are with Rubio, because the Republicans in congress will at least try to stop her. God forbid Rubio wins. We'll hear NO END of this golden boy and his fucking mandate, a JFK for the multicultural American century. The media will push his "first hundred days" like nothing we've seen since 1993, and you can bet your pretty white daughters we're all going to start down a "path of healing and reconciliation," because after all America is a nation of immigrants and was built by people fleeing oppression and poverty in search of a better life for their families.
>>55500138
It's Jeb.
>>55500892
Wrong. Trump is populist
>>55501682
I'm pretty much convinced you're Mexican or some other type of dirty spic
>>55502207
>tea party
>libertarians
top kek. that aside...
http://www.amazon.com/RULES-CONSERVATIVE-RADICALS-Michael-Patrick/dp/0979497442
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201002010041
http://blogs.suntimes.com/ebert/saul-alinsky-comes-to-the-tea.html
>>55502544
>>55501682
It really depends on where you live and who they are. Here in NYC and they are just part of the neighborhood. Knowing English gives them an advantage over all the other mud races, and then you've got the Puerto Ricans who've been here for ages and tend to be bilingual. Certain times of the day I'm surrounded by Indians and Arabs, when I get back to my street which is full of Mexicans I feel more at home and less like I'm in the middle of an alien civilization. I'll admit that part of this is I'm on edge because of the Europe invasion.
Anyway, if I go back to California I'm not even going to be on speaking terms with any Hispanics, because they keep to themselves, they have no reason to learn English, and there's no outside force to encourage friendship between the Mexicans and whites.
Bottom line, it's nowhere near as dire as what's happening in Europe right now, and I'm frankly more worried about all the people coming here from Asia, but we can't keep letting Hispanics come here or even allow most of them to stay.
The one thing I will say about Rubio is that if he does win, even if Hispanics don't move to the right politically they may become less reliant on government simply because they'll have an old fashioned American Dream narrative to hang on him.
>>55500138
Bush, Kasich, Rubio, and Firina are the establishment candidates
>>55502181
Jindal, Huckabee, Christie, and Santorum don't have enough support to change anything directly by dropping out. Most of us who admire these people already favor one of the other candidates. But these are four people who command a lot more respect than their poll numbers suggest, and they will influence who we favor among the frontrunners. For example I might prefer Fiorina to Cruz if she had Huckabee's endorsement.
More so with Paul, but he won't endorse any of these people with much enthusiasm because it will erode at his reputation, at his brand if you want to be a little cynical about it.
Fiorina won't drop out unless she strikes a deal with whoever she thinks is going to win and wants to help him seal it. She wants to be Vice President. I think she'll stick it out and I hope she does.
Bush and Rubio will drop out as soon as it becomes clear that, among establishment candidates, only Cruz can beat Trump. Once that happens you might see the others drop out, because they'll prefer Trump to whoever the establishment favorite is.
In the end I think Cruz will outmaneuver him anyway, but let's hope I'm wrong.
>>55504108
I think it's going to be between Rubio, Trump, Carson, Cruz in the end.
I think Cruz and Trump are going to have to confront each other since they go after the same kind of voter. this battle could take either one out.
It's jut a feeling but Carson's support will start to go to Cruz and Rubio if they start getting support behind them and he starts faltering.
Leaving Rubio, and Trump or Cruz.
Beyond that I don't know.
>>55500138
Jeb, Kasich, and Rubio are the solidly establishment candidates. Kasich doesn't have a chance in hell and may be legitimately retarded. Jeb is who the establishment wants more than anyone, it's his "turn" to be president in the hierarchy of retards, but at this point the numbers simply don't support his candidacy, and I'm hearing even hardcore establishment shills acknowledge that he's not going to be president. Rubio is the best bet, he has the best numbers of any establishment candidate, he was basically Jeb's apprentice, he's a minority, and best of all most people don't see him as an establishment candidate for some reason. The one thing that gives me pause is that there's been some friction between Rubio and the establishment over his running in opposition to Jeb, and they very well may hold that against him for not waiting his turn like a good shill. If that ends up being the case I think Fiorina may be the unexpected topshill for the establishment, I know there are many in the establishment who would support her just for being a woman for the sake of hot girl-on-girl action since she's the least controversial outsider.
>>55505441
>Jeb is who the establishment wants more than anyone, it's his "turn" to be president in the hierarchy of retards
I'm not even an (R) and I wouldn't call H.W. a retard.
W. no doubt.
Jeb is just a spoiled, entitled little pisspants. He even acts like it.
