American dream in the 50's = wife, dog, 2 cars, house.
American dream in 2015 = ?
>>55479004
Same, it's just much more difficult to achieve and maintain those things.
>>55479004
slut gf, nigger kuck, pc, dragon dildo, kuckshed.
2 cars, dog, house, no wife
>>55479004
Getting away from my wife and kids to hang out/ fuck my best friend and keep up my crazy hobbies.
obsessing over the latest cable tv show, consumer electronics, internet memes.
>>55479004
Move out of parents house.
Find a non robot job.
Get my car fixed.
Build wall.
>>55479145
Heeeey that's ASU.
Those fuckers are annoying.
2015
30k student debt
50% out of college employment rate
Slut gf
child support payment
Thanks atheists.
>>55479145
BILL
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>>55479145
MARK MARK MARK STOP MARK MARK MARK THATS ENOUGH MARK MARK MARK MARK
>>55479004
British dream in the 1950s: Rations, bombed house, dead dog, dead kids, shit job.
>>55479004
I'd settle for a nice 500-700 sq ft house, a semi new car that doesn't have issues and a job that pays more than 25k. Seriously, I am so fucking tired of making under 12k a year. Never made more than that, all i can find is minimum wage part time jobs and they will not let you have a second job.
Plot of land with a small house in the middle of nowhere in the mountains or some shit
usable internet but power/water/ everything else off grid
garden and a few animals
currently about to get MS in engineering and make decent bucks for a few years so I should be able to afford this
I'd like to do what autists used to do in the past and be a hermit instead of a miserable city fuck like I am now
>>55479004
Not ending up homeless.
Companion, companion, maybe a few other companions, like 7 cats, a closet full of dildos and drugs and a house filled with oppression and excuses
>>55479463
But at least you were saved by turbobankers in the 80's... right?
>>55479577
Been looking into it for more than a year now, If i ever get the money I will do it myself. Its a lot harder when your poor. Looking into dc appliances now.
>>55479004
partners, three cats, 2 bicycles, apartment in seattle
>>55479004
the american dream is still the same.
it just doesnt exist anymore as a reality.
>>55479368
based Mark
>>55479004
>American dream in 2015 =
Not living in debt your whole life
1 car
Dog
Not getting rape charges for consensual sex (or not getting divorced and everything stolen)
Reasonable rent.
>>55479004
Comfy apartment, dog, and robowaifu
A job
No debt
>>55479004
>American dream in 2015 = ?
your doing it right now anon
>>55479999
Lol good luck. Your quads don't count in the real world.
What is the American dream for a 50's woman?
>>55479004
>American dream in 2015 =
2 cars
a House
2 dogs
no wife
I'm already living the dream guys...
...I don't feel like I'm even alive though...
>>55480162
1) raise children
2) clean house
3) make sammich
![800px-95-97geometro3door[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qRIaIq8.jpg "800px-95-97geometro3door[1].jpg")
>>55479004
>American dream in 2015 = ?
-Getting out of debt eventually
-No house, small apartment. No one can afford a house, and its not smart to stay put in one city anyway in 2015.
-No wife, live in girlfriend who won't cheat on you and divorce for alimony.
-No kids, only Mexicans and blacks can afford them with welfare
-Run down used car, bought for under $2000 on Craigslist, paint fading because wasn't stored in a garage.
>>55479004
The American dream in 2015 is just being able to afford food and not be living on the street.
There is no fucking American Dream anymore.
>>55480372
Kinda living the dream
>>55479004
Boyfriend, Prius, small studio apartment, and a cat.
>>55479004
A job
Thats really about it. Everything else was impossible. There was a time in the country where you could achieve the American dream and more (like send your kids to college) without a high school diploma.
>>55479463
God Damn does your country suck, achmed. I honestly think moving back to sand-dune-istan would be a smart choice. I mean, the only reason we even put up with the native limeys is that they speak some retarded dialect of English, so we can understand them in diplomatic relations. But we beat their asses twice for a reason, and many of us feel we should do it again.
>>55479004
>>55479004
Don't get shot.
>>55479004
>Having a wife who isn't an insufferable cunt that will just divorce you a few years down the road and essentially ruin your life.
>Having kids who can grow up in a decent environment not polluted with degenerates.
>Having a career that pays well enough that you can actually survive in our current world where everything is expensive as shit. But still being able to enjoy that career and not wake up every morning dreading having to go to work.
I'd say that about covers it.
>>55479004
The American Dream hasn't changed... it's still having a loving wife, kids that make you proud, a dog, 2 cars, a cozy house, etc...
... the only thing that's changed is that now the only part of the dream that's actually attainable is the dog.
>>55479050
because people are retarded with their money and spend it all on frivolous shit instead of saving for a car or house. and they rent and lease like niggers
>>55480179
What use is that if we don't have a community or even a country governed by Americans anymore?
American dream in 2015 = Trump Victory in 2016
>>55480298
Doesn't sound very fulfilling
>>55480863
Fuck the american dream. I just want 300-400 sq feet to myself in a house in the middle of nowhere, where i can build, provide for myself and grow my own food. I want out of this nightmare. The west is screwed. I want out and i dont want to live in a cave.
>>55479004
I just want a wife, a comfy clean home, and a family. Nothing I can't achieve.
>>55479004
>be me
>30
>10yrs in as a union autoworker
>wife and 2 kids
>2 cars
>house in a white suburbia neighborhood
Feels good
>>55479004
Single bedroom apartment
Internet access
Latest computer gadgets
A job to afford it all
>>55479145
>>55481186
Truly we don't deserve a hero such as mark
>>55479004
Fuck the American dream, I just want a nice sized apartment in brooklyn, a qt Brown live in gf, and enough free time to be happy
>>55481133
^All this
But a larger house
A few cars and a cool hobby
>>55479145
Post the sound version
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFbK7ZZE9EY
>>55479004
The American Dream in 2015 is a world without blacks.
>>55479004
40k denbts
starbucks job
feminist gf
bull
>>55480896
>because people are retarded with their money and spend it all on frivolous shit instead of saving for a car or house
In 1950
>The average new car cost $1500
>The average new home cost $8,450
>The average family income was $3,300
If we account for inflation between 1950 and 2015
>The average new car would cost $14,900
>The average new home would cost $83,400
>The average family income would be $32,900
Instead, today
>The average new car is $33,500 - that's 225% higher than inflation alone
>The average home is $188,900 - that's ALSO 225% higher than inflation alone
>The average family income is $50,500 - that's only 150% higher than inflation alone
>BUT because in most middle and lower class families, both parents work now...
>The average income PER PERSON is only $26,700 - 20% LESS than inflation dictates
Now, I'm not saying there aren't people who are pants-on-head retarded with their money and do stupid shit like leasing all their furniture or eating out four nights a week... but it's also true that the average American is earning 80% of what they ought to be, while simultaneously paying more than twice what they ought to be.
A modern condo, decent car, updated pc, and some delicious food. Leave me the fuck alone world, this is all I want.
>>55481804
Good lord what manner of noises were those?
>>55479004
>regular sex and on/off girlfriends (marriage is too much commitment)
>a nice phone, computer, and TV
>decent car
>apartment or affordable house
>>55482352
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>55482049
>>The average home is $188,900 - that's ALSO 225% higher than inflation alone
I fuck WISH the homes in my area cost that little. Pic related.
>>55479004
>american dream thread
>OP is a moose-fucking faggot from canada
>inb4 yurotrash losers join in
>>55479004
seems like it is sex, money and respect for the youth.
There was a time when the American dream revolved around God and promoting the wellbeing of our nation.
If not all, it was at least the dreams of those men that built this nation.
>>55484017
what do I care about that lol im just trying to smash and smoke some lemon kush brah
>>55481804
Holy fuck...
I wish I was living the 1950s dream.
>>55479145
>>55481804
>not posting the superior sound version
https://soundcloud.com/zmcd/mark-mark-mark
I would like to pay off my student loans so I can afford a newer apartment with a patio and in unit laundry
I guess that's all I can dream for as a single white man saddled with debt and a mid-wage job.
>>55483115
Absurd prices in the city are terrible, but it's a serious problem when people living in small towns can't even afford a decent place to live.
60 years ago my grandfather bought his family a house... in cash.
30 years ago my dad paid off my family's first home in five years.
Today it takes the average family 25 years to pay off a mortgage on a house
Combine that with overpriced autos, overpriced goods and services, lower wages, the death of the nuclear family and the traditional woman...
The American Dream of the 1950s is the life all of us want, but none of us can ever hope to achieve.
>>55479004
GL buying a Tbird nowadays t.bh fag
>get my degree
>get a job
>build up savings
>a car
Immediate goals.
Family and such can come later. I've got plenty of time to find someone worth fucking.
>>55481804
>Mark, shut up
kek
>>55479004
haha that poor guy in the picture doesn't know that he's gonna be keked by the milkman
but hey, at least he's not black
waifu, 2 dogs, and vidya
American dream in 2015 = Raising your offspring to not be ćucks or coalburners
>>55485475
wrong webm
>>55480162
Fall in love and get married to a good guy that will provide for you, work for a house and car, raise family, clean, cook, socialize with the other women in the neighbourhood, relax and enjoy your life together.
People back then were less stressed and depressed because they were happy.
>>55479004
2015 = Nice condo, 2 dogs, a car, and video games.
>2015
Find a career and study for it, get a job eventually that pays well, fall in love to a good woman, get married, get house, get cars, get dog, have kids, and live happily ever after.
>>55485475
I don't remember this place in the game? Is it DLC or mods or vanilla?
>>55482049
Canadafag here.
I have a pretty respectable job but I am still forced to live at home.
Rent in my city is off the rails, with rents beginning in the thousands for a single-room apartment.
I've taken the bus my whole life because there is no way in hell I can finance a car.
I'm very careful with money, and have been my whole life, but this is ridiculous. The only houses being built in my city are $500,000+ CAD McMansions. I just want a shitty small house to raise a family in and not have to pay for it the rest of my life.
I live in a super ordinary neighborhood-- no bad shit like crime. The houses are semi-detached homes and bungalows. The shadiest looking house in the neighborhood sold a few weeks ago for $280,000 CAD.
I will never see a job that offers enough money to live the 'American dream'
I don't even want luxury, I just want to be able to have opportunities to live like a fucking grown up
>>55481804
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>>55485495
wait wat
>>55485698
red dot
>>55482049
Most households have two incomes coming in where as in the 50's it was more common for a sole breadwinner.
You're now realizing the Jews inflated our currency forcing man and wife to work, just so they can tax the other half of the population
>>55481021
Raising happy healthy children and supporting your hard working, masculine husband is very fulfilling.
>>55485520
I have my doubts about that, not because feminism grew from such a situation but because even in the 50s one man couldn't support a family a lone.
>>55485593
>>55485593
>Find a career
>In Canada
>People do not retire anymore
>all the positions are filled
>Apply outside your field
>no replies
Have you seen the Ontario Sunshine List? There is no way these people aren't going to keep their jobs for years after they're supposed to retire.
Teachers in Ontario are going to teach until they're corpses because they don't have to retire when they're supposed to. Even the ones who retire stay on the call lists and become substitute teachers while they collect their golden pensions.
There is no more manufacturing in Ontario. It all got outsourced in the 1990s. There is no more graphic design or computer science or programming in Ontario because it was all outsourced in the 2000s.
Also
>Study for a job
Don't go to university in Canada if you want a job-- go to college. The biggest downside is that a lot of management positions or positions you'd want to move up into at the job require a degree-- the system is now designed that you should attend both university AND college.
Double the debt!
>>55482049
More mexicans and blacks to water down white statistics in the 50s.
>>55482049
you sound like a whiney faggot that cant eat on less than $5 a day
>>55485863
I'm sure the arrangement worked well for some women, but what about getting a high education, having a career, or even the means to just support herself independently?
>>55484289
Fuck yes
>>55479004
be happy
>>55485495
You've managed to turn my face of boredom into a face of disgust in less than three seconds.
Good fuck.
>>55486053
lol
>>55482049
>exodus of people from large expensive overbuilt cities to places like salina kansas
>small businesses start to meet demand of influx of people escaping expensive cities
>buy a new toyota yaris
>buy a new modular, or ready built kit home to build, or cut on site home
>earn a income of about $33,000 from your job working at a or for a small business
america has all of this fucking land and room to grow but everyone is fooled into believing that they should rely on big corporate america for everything and stick to the big cities
>>55485858
>Most households have two incomes coming in where as in the 50's it was more common for a sole breadwinner.
Exactly - even in families fortunate enough to have two parents, both parents are basically forced to work to make roughly the same as what one breadwinner would have made for his family in the 50s.
>>55485909
>There is no way these people aren't going to keep their jobs for years after they're supposed to retire.
Which is a problem here in the US as well. You've got an entire generation that's trying to enter the workforce now and nobody's hiring... why waste time and effort training new employees when you've got workers with 20, 30 years experience who can't or don't want to retire?
>>55485964
My food budget's $120 a month.
>>55486375
how can you not afford a house? I understand that new cars are expensive as fuck but my mortgage is less than rent for a lesser place
>>55479004
I wanna unload a full auto uzi into a tree and then go inside and fuck a 17 year old in exchange for beer. Then I'd get blackout drunk and watch Kamen Rider until I fell asleep.
Repeat for 50 years
>>55479004
>Make $17.60 straight out of high school
>Live in big house with 3 best friend roommates
>Own a 2004 Ram 1500 and 2016 Subaru BRZ both paid off
>Have a $3000 rig for games
>Party every weekend
>No gf but whatever
Still can't sleep at night.....
also if americans were more open towards high speed rail instead of letting theirselves be fooled into believing that air travel is all america needs, the same mode of transportation that's unreachable to a large segment of the population simply because they can't afford it, then americans can viably live in smaller less expensive towns or smaller cities and commute to work by train to the larger cities.
but then again what's the fun in that when you can ride a plane and say everyone on the ground is ants because you think you're hot shit for being able to fly economy class on some low budget airline with 6 inches of legroom
>>55486374
>live in Dallas for a while
>get job in Wichita kansas
>earn a little bit more but my money has 3x the spending power here
Rent for a single bedroom close to work was 1300 in Dallas its 500 for a larger apartment in wichita
>>55479004
Xbox, dog, 2 parents, unattached garage or guest house
>>55486867
more americans need to grow the smaller cities, then move on to the next smaller ones, and so on. places like dfw or chicago, etc are too fucking overbuilt and expensive for the car centric infrastructure they have and under developed public transit they offer
and cities like witchita are easier to implement public transit right off the bat instead of making the same mistakes of predecessors and foregoing any mode of public transit instead of lackluster bus routes
>>55486795
>2016 Subaru BRZ
>Still can't sleep at night.....
Can't shake the feeling you should have gone with the ecoboost mustang?
>>55480722
The baby knows he's fucked
>>55487032
I considered it but the mandatory dildo insert wasn't very inviting
>>55486487
The difference is, 60 years ago you could BUY a house outright. No down-payments, no mortgages. It was actually feasible for a man to save up enough to pay for a new home in full.
That's not remotely feasible anymore. You get a mortgage, you pay your monthly - sure it's less than renting but it's getting rarer and rarer for anyone to ever actually pay off their home in full.
>>55479004
Mistress, spic plumber, 2 bulls, house.
the american dream is really building up a community. owning a house, a car, having kids, wife that makes sandwiches every now and then... which is still reachable, just not in the larger cities unless you're wealthy or just don't care how much debt you carry
millenials need to realize that the boomers already built up the larger cities, the greatest generation built up the eastern seaboard cities, millenials need to start building up other cities
The American Dream is dead
Hunter S Thompson wrote about this
>>55487161
It's only uninviting until you find out the dildo is where they pump all the fake engine noise.
