Go ahead, explain why women and minorities shouldn't be able to vote.
>because a lot of them sometimes vote for things I don't like
That's called democracy, my dear. Vox populi. You can't always get what you want.
Because they take away money from actual taxpayers like myself. Niggers and women are net drains on society.
>>55474751
Because minorities can't think properly.
>>55474751
I'm ok with minorities voting
Women should not have voting rights
>>55474936
Wat
>>55474751
If you've ever had a girlfriend in your life you'd realize they know nothing about politics (the whole world really) and we would be MUCH better off if they didn't vote
But I know it's an absolute fantasy to think that we could prevent half the population from voting
>>55474751
My dear? What kind of arrogant, fedora tipping fuckwit says my dear?
Go ahead, explain why 4 year olds shouldn't be able to vote.
>because a lot of them sometimes vote for things I don't like
That's called democracy, my dear. Vox populi. You can't always get what you want.
>>55474751
Minorities do nothing but vote to steal my money and let in more shitskins so they can one day conquer my country
Women vote based on feelings rather than logic. they've been running countries into the ground ever since women's suffrage became a thing. they're responsible for extremely misandrist and draconian marriage and reproduction laws.
>That's called democracy, my dear.
democracy sucks cock unless only intelligent white men are allowed to vote, which was the original intention
Go ahead, explain why people in China and India shouldn't be able to vote in US elections.
>because a lot of them sometimes vote for things I don't like
That's called democracy, my dear. Vox populi. You can't always get what you want.
Go ahead, explain why people on death row shouldn't be able to vote.
>because a lot of them sometimes vote for things I don't like
That's called democracy, my dear. Vox populi. You can't always get what you want.
Most of the people here determine their politics in exactly the same way as they accuse women or minorities of determining politics. Why not do it based on a measure that actually has some meaning, like IQ? Oh right, that would ban most people here from pushing their anti-intellectual authoritarian shit.
>>55474751
The problem with democracy. Is that, democracy only works when people are voting for the "common good", instead of "voting against" other groups, for their own benefit.
Basically, democracy, when there are multiple groups of people within it, always devolves into "class warfare". The politicians must pander to minorities for votes. And thus, once a democracy becomes "diverse", it always becomes dysfunctional. And becomes easily manipulated by media fear-mongering(IE war on women, Republicans are racist, etc).
Democracy only works properly, when everyone who can vote, is from the same "class". Thus preventing "class warfare".
In America, originally, only men who owned property could vote. Which was an attempt to prevent the kind of class-warfare which would later plague this country.
But, it is impossible to keep voting rights limited, because, whichever faction benefits from expanding voting rights, will push to expand them. Basically, blacks were given a right to vote, because Lincoln knew they would all vote for his party(96% of blacks voted for Obama). And the liberals/progressives supported the female vote, because they knew they would overwhelmingly vote for liberal/progressive/socialist candidates.
Basically, democracy is garbage, so who cares?
>>55475288
Lots of difference between a 4 year old and an adult.
Women and niggers are stupid. Pretty much it.
>TFW femenazi 6th grade teacher got upset when teaching that black men got the vote before white womyn
Their votes should count for less.
Women: 1/10 of a vote
Minorities: 3/5 of a vote
>>55475377
They're not residents of the U.S.
>>55475430
When states had complete control over voting for the first 80 years or so, most states restricted voting to men who held a minimum amount of property with New Jersey being the significant exception. That seems like a measure with meaning.
>>55475582
If this is the justification then why not just do an IQ test? Surely you want to be as diligent as possible in getting intelligent voters to participate while excluding idiots. If you don't want to exclude the countless unintelligent white males then you can't pretend you have sound motives.
>>55474751
Women are ruled by their emotions
>>55475412
Former felons can't vote in much of the country.
In much of Europe though it's ensured that prisoners see campaign materials and vote.
>>55475430
>scientific proof of African and female inferiority
>anti science
>>55474751
>muh dear
fuck you faggot
anyway immigrants shouldn't get to vote because they will only vote for whatever is easiest for them to scrape by with, and not what's best for the country
most women have absolutely 0 interest in politics or economics or anything relevant and are a skewing factor for otherwise reasonable elections
>>55475576
Lots of difference between an 18 year old and a 40 year old. That doesn't prevent 18 year olds from voting.
>>55475619
Chinese, Indian, Mexican, etc. citizens who are not legally allowed in the US are still allowed to vote in California. Why not extend it to their families overseas?
>>55475559
Also a well informed voting population is essential to keeping the pandering to a minimum.
But we all know that the masses are far from well informed.
>>55475719
Good, good. One step closer to ensuring universal suffrage.
>>55475731
You're the most anti-science people who exist. You only favor science when it comes to conclusions that fit your agenda, which is the antithesis of scientific. Religiosity correlates far closer with stupidity than does race or gender. Interesting how your priority is not in eliminating religiosity from voting booths.
It's always really funny as fuck how you shills think you're fooling anyone into believing you're scientifically-minded by repeating over and over how you worship racial IQ statistics. Wow, how noble of you. Tell me more about how anyone who points out that Christians are stupid is a fedora. Subhuman.
Because democracy is the worse form of government and I want as small a number of people voting as possible.
>>55475559
That subject was addressed at least once in the Federalist Papers. The Founding Fathers hated partisanship and ensured that warring factions wouldn't tear the country apart. Whether or not white men were the only ones voting is a minor factor.
>>55475693
We could
You wouldn't like the results though
>>55474751
Because they got that right through the generosity of the white American man, who had to shed his blood to get it for himself.
>>55474751
I dont like democracy, it inevitably leads to dictatorships / autocracy / imperialism
>>55475916
Why do you say I wouldn't like the results when I'm the only person in this thread advocating for a merit-based system? Hilarious how you retards project your delusional biases onto everyone else.
>>55475252
>my body, my choice
Yeah, it was your choice to be a skank
I only believe in abortion in the case of rape or life-threatening condition for the mother or child. Otherwise, deal with it ho and use a condom next time
>>55475731
I think what they are saying is that not having a totally authoritarian system would still allow capable women & non whites to vote. For example passing an intelligence test in order to vote would get rid of people that are just looking for handouts or social pandering.
>>55475786
With the exception of severely retarded people, 18 year olds generally are expected to have taken up enough adult responsibility and maturity to vote.
>>55475880
>anti ra ysis
>calls someone else subhuman
>>55475252
My money, my choice.
>>55475576
lotta adults talk and act like 4 year olds tbqh family
>>55474751
>vote
Vote needs to be removed.
Democracy was mistake.
Normal people HATE the Liberty and only thing that they want is socialism.
The price of liberty is eternal vigilance, but people are too lazy to keep it.
Vote means more hillary and sanders.
Populism, needs to be extinct.
>>55475160
>>55475252
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>>55476038
How does it feel that no amount of woman hate will ever fix your shitty life?
>>55476087
gb2 psychology 101
>>55474751
women are easily influenced.
just look at europe and canada where women have been giving too much power in the last decades. they can't think straight without a clouded judgement and using logic instead of emotion.
You can show them all the facts in world they won't believe it.
>>55475910
The political climate in 1800 was significantly more divisive and partisan than it is today. The difference was in the amount of real power the federal government held. As the franchise expanded, so did federal power.
Letting women vote was the start of all the problems we see now as a result of liberalism.
Feminism is the keystone on the doorway to hell.
If only men could vote, they would still vote in the interests of their wives, mothers, sisters and daughters. Women only ever vote for themselves because they're disenfranchised and have to be selfish in order to make things equal.
>>55476094
>implying there's anything inherently wrong about democratic socialism
>>55476101
How does it feel that no amount of man hate will fix your barren, ugly fat ass?
>>55474751
>wom3n: Because they vote emotionally rather than strategically or with a long-term mindset.
>Minorities: generally vote only for things that directly benefit them, i.e. more welfare. Not to be trusted.
Because no one should be able to vote.
>>55476215
WOMEN ARE PEOPLE TOO YOU FAGGOT BITCH BOY
>>55476101
>here's why you're wrong
>YOU HAVE NO GIRLFRIEND YOU HAVE NO LIFE NO GIRL WOULD EVER WANT YOU, YOUR LIFE IS A DISASTER
Predictable.
>>55474751
Because our countries have gone to shit ever since they got the right to. Women are uninformed, unintelligent and uncaring voters - I'm not saying IQ plays a part of this, just that they never properly inform themselves about anything. All they want is more gibsmedat, and whatever "seems popular". People who are on benefits shouldn't be allowed to vote, either.
For a one sentence reply: Because their choices are literally killing our countries.
>>55474936
>>55475198
He's right. Niggers are mentally inferior. Just make everyone do some basic tests, and you'll see that most niggers won't pass.
>>55476215
Sorry mate, we really dropped the ball on this one desu senpai =(
>>55476028
And the standard used to be 21. Some organizations want to lower the standard to 16 and one city in Maryland already has for local elections. Is a 21 year old really that difference from an 18 year old? An 18 year old from a 16 year old? A 16 year old from a 14 year old? A 14 year old from a 10 year old? A 10 year old from a 6 year old? A 6 year old from a 4 year old?
Just allow 4 year olds to vote already and stop denying them the franchise.
>>55476184
The Federalist Papers were written in the 1780s. Anti-partisanship was espoused by Madison and even more strongly by Washington.
Things had changed by 1800 though.
>>55475880
Sick lawgic trap brah
http://i.imgur.com/IQbAP.png
>>55476357
Interesting logic but the modus operandi of the government is to set responsibilities and rights at a concrete age rather than a flexible standard.
>>55474751
Democracy is mob rule and no, that's not democracy, democracy is direct rule by vote. There is no such country that operates like this because nobody with an iq over 40 could imagine it working in any way shape or form. Instead you live in a controlled opposition republic where you fight like dogs over which canidate primairly funded with zionist money get's steal your hard earnings and give them to jamal after they relocate him so he can sleep with your daughter more.
Fucking betakeks everywhere man. If any of you actually spoke to women you would realize they are not so different. They vote for the things they want. Some women are dumb just as some men are dumb. And they still deserve to vote.
>>55476358
The people involved in the highly partisan politics of 1800 were also Founding Fathers. The author to contribute the most to the Federalist Papers, Alexander Hamilton, was shot and killed in a duel with Aaron Burr in 1804 over matters of politics.
>That's called democracy, my dear.
>Democracy meme
Why should anyone care? Women and minorities having the vote is still relatively new, and it was a bad idea.
>>55476482
You've still provided no clear logic as to why that concrete age should not be 4 and Chinese nationals shouldn't be allowed to vote in US elections, instead providing circular reasoning. Why are you against universal suffrage?
>>55476101
i'm watching columbo, shitposting these pics while my gf of 2 years is sleeping next to me. she's a cook and loves making me delicious food.
those are the facts m'lady
Because Women for for themselves, where as Men vote for their families.
>>55476766
>circular reasoning
I'm just pointing out government policy.
And you have to draw a line somewhere, and it's obvious that a four year old isn't mature enough mentally to directly participate in democracy.
>>55476295
Yes, they are. But they're of the female gender. People aren't people, that's why we divide them into groups - because we're not all the same. A few characteristics of women is that they're less intelligent than men, and considerably more emotionally driven. Emotion is good when deal with people, but really bad when dealing with reality (politics).
>>55476310
>muh pussy access privileges
It's all women have. The sooner you stop giving a shit, the sooner you will realize just how infantile the manipulation methods of women are. It's basically a kid in an adults body.
>>55476719
Indeed. Democracy has clearly failed. It's time to implement some sort of meritocracy-based system, like in China (but with more protections against corruption).
>>55476924
That's a good observation. Men work for the greater good, while women work for their own good.
>>55476215
Which is why there are a large number of conservative women voters.
Please remember that women are not a hivemind, they're individuals with differing beliefs.
>>55476772
Wow, you've been in Germany for a whole 2 years? You're way ahead of your Syrian countrymen who are only now getting into the country.
>>55476511
this guy gets it
>>55476975
>isn't mature enough mentally to directly participate in democracy
But 18 year olds are? And 17 year olds are not?
>>55474751
democrary sucks
thats why we arent democratic
we choose electoral college who vote for us
even the founding fathers and the ancient greeks understood the downfalls of democracy
the oppression of the few by the many
and the many is niggers and spics
>>55477191
The electoral college pretty much always conforms to the popular vote.
>>55476766
I am like 90% sure you're joking, but okay. 4 year olds are not mentally capable of handling the responsibility of voting; neither are 10, 14, or 16 year olds. I'm 18 and honestly I think it would make sense if 18 year olds were not allowed to vote. Older adults are more mature and can be expected to vote more responsibly, and it is not sensible to expect every minor social group to have the country's best in mind when voting.
>>55476511
Several states in the US, Switzerland, several South American nations, and so on allow for referenda with direct vote on very important issues.
>>55477264
pretty much
meaning it can do whatever the fuck it wants
>>55477190
Don't ask me. I didn't make the law.
Nice criticisms though.
>>55477067
>>55477191
Whites are 62% lel.
For women to vote they should be eligible for the draft.
If you are to have rights, you must be prepared to defend them.
>>55477281
Joking? No. Pointing out how absurd the idea of universal suffrage is? Yes.
Standards must be set and people must be excluded as a result. Who is to be excluded should be based on what is deemed in the national interest, not what makes people feel good about themselves. No matter how we define this, the standard will be arbitrarily defined and exclusive. That it should exclude people based on age, citizenship, gender, ethnicity, property ownership, or other standards is arbitrary. Arguments for inclusion or exclusion should come from logic, not from what is deemed ethical.
>>55476221
>failed utterly in every attempt at implementation
>destroys economies and ruins society
>hurr nothing wrong with dis
>free shit lmao
>feel da bern 2016
>>55477674
Even DemSoc parties in Europe have been forced to privatize certain industries in Sweden, Netherlands, Denmark, etc. in recent decades. The mathematics of business made DemSoc desires an impossibility, much to the dismay of DemSoc voters.
I don't entirely agree with Democracy. In fact, I think Monarchy is probably the best political system.
That being said, you need a good queen / king for it to work out properly. Because a Bad King / Queen can destroy a country forever.
Also, while you say;
>because a lot of them sometimes vote for things I don't like
You actually don't understand how bad that really is. Women and Minorities tend to vote Liberal. Despite Liberalism proven to not work for the people or even at all in the long run. Women vote for them because "Muh feelings" and Minorities vote for them because "Muh free shit". Neither look at the consequences, and every single leftist party spouts the same bullshit;
>muh wage gap
Which we all know is false
>muh racism
Which we all know Blacks in America commit most of the hate crimes
>muh sexism
When that is literally against the law, especially in the work place.
>“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
And this is why I prefer Monarchy to Democracy. Because that quote is literally leftists from today. And we've seen how oppressive and self destructive leftism is in today's society.
>UK and their absolute lack of freedom, Cameras everywhere and the fact that you can literally go to prison for speaking ill of women, muslims or jews (I do not agree with those statements, however, prison is a bit much)
>Europe in general and their march towards death with the acceptance of millions upon millions of immigrants. All of which come from a culture that is against western culture to it's most extreme.
>Germany and Sweden in particular
>Australia is slowly becoming UK 2.0
