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What is /pol/ opinion on MGTOWs? Are they the true redpilled alpha males?
https://youtu.be/lKfdS38aBSk?t=3m15s
>>55468620
They're just as bad as 3rd wave feminists
>>55468620
>MGTOW
>Alpha
Pick one
They are a reverse Lysistrata.
>>55468657
and why is that?
>>55468620
literally keks
Both sides are the sings of the end times (men and women wont even have sex with each other any more)
>>55468620
cringeworthy
if you want to go your own way, just do it.
But joining together with others to spread your message, is retarded. noboby cares about it.
>>55468620
True alpha is a state where you are chased and desired by women and not the other way around
MGTOW is just opting out of the system and its neither beta or alpha.
>>55468620
As bad as radical feminist. Men and women are suppose to work together in a union. If you can't get a decent girl who you red pill or shape into a traditional relationship you are beta as fuck and need to make huge changes to your life.
Sex outside of marriage is evil and destroys societies. If you consent to fucking a random girl and immediately throwing her out you consent to your daughter doing the same.
>>55468657
I don't agree that they're just as bad as feminists in terms of philosophy and scale.
I just think it's foolish for men to just throw up their hands and walk away from a crumbling society. It's not just cowardly, but also bad for a world in which the future generations will one day inhabit. I want to have kids one day and I don't want them to be living in a world where a man is ostracized for being a man. If we listen to these MGTOW people, that's where we'll end up, if men don't push back to ultra progressive ideas that are going around in media and the education system.
In short, MGTOW are conceding ground and calling it a victory, leaving the real men that want to change the place for good that much worse off.
>>55468620
I love how these fags think that White women will suddenly give up and decide to renounce feminism and revert to traditional roles.
All that's going to happen is that White women will fuck Arabs, Latinos, Blacks, Chinks, and even Indians.
>>55468620
Is he wearing lipstick?
>>55469629
The excessive feminism or whatever is the outcome of technology
You can't push back against cars, PCs, smartphones, aircon
All these inventions make women independent of men, and widen their geographic options of male partners
Combine this with humanity's in-built deference to female comfort & wellbeing (they make babies)
There's no political fightback to any of this, it's the march of history
>>55468620
>true alpha
I'm not talking about people who simply decided not to get married, but 90% of people who identify as "MGTOW" are fat, unattractive, and would never have got married anyway.
>>55469960
It's not, it's because of democracy - "equality of conditions" as explained by Tocqueville in Democracy in America
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tocqueville_effect
>as social conditions and opportunities improve, social frustration grows faster
>after greater social justice is achieved, there may be more fervent opposition to even smaller social injustices than before
>>55468620
Rather than being an MGTOW you should just be a Chad
A lot easier and a lot more spiteful towards women to pump and dump them, no one cares if average/below average guys don't want to date but women simultaneously get mad and aroused when some Chad is known to be desirable and a dick to chicks
>>55468620
I always thought MGTOWs were suspect. Anyone truly feeling to opt out of the relationships thing and stuff wouldn't care to make any fuss about it, they'd be on /a/ watching cute girls do cute things.
>>55469862
>I love how these fags think that White women will suddenly give up and decide to renounce feminism and revert to traditional roles.
To be fair, I have no allusions that women will renounce feminism. But does that mean I should just roll over and accept it? Merely because I want to get laid?
From what I can see, you have three options...
1) You can try to do the right thing, and hope you'll get lucky and find the rare decent woman, but accept that the risks are high, and things are unlikely to turn out as you hope. She will probably cheat on you, divorce you, force you to pay alimony and child support, and generally try to fuck over your life. Leaving you basically a wage-slave for the rest of your life, or risk going to jail.
2) You can just not give a shit, and basically act like a nigger. Take advantage of the easy pussy, and generally act like a scumbag(I actually tried this for a minute, but then I felt too guilty, because I don't like to hurt people).
3) You can just realize that the game is rigged, and that, under the current system(which seems to be unchangeable), it is pointless to date at all, other than for some short-term, but very risky pleasure, which every decent man, who isn't a nigger, and who doesn't actually hate women, feels guilty about.
In essence, MGTOW is a kind of protest. It basically says, if this is the way the game is going to be played, I don't want to play it, and I would encourage everyone else not to play as well. And if they refuse to change the rules of the game, so be it. The game they are playing will inevitably lead to our collapse. And basically, I would prefer to destroy the world, than to contribute to a world I hate.
That is my position at least.
>>55469862
Of course they will when the barbarians invade. All you need to know is that it only takes 1 generation to rise off and another to be brought up under a different system for things to change, and women are naturally followers. This evil generation will be slaughtered in the streets.
>>55468773
I think it's funny that a movement called men going /their own way/ has in practice come to be obsessing over women
>>55470213
Women are basically safer today than at any point in history, but the human need to always seek more safety & comfort results in the "micro aggressions" and facile complaints (manspreading etc).
Forget democracy or these -isms like marxism.
Fucking retards
>>55472003
To be fair, everything happens for "economic reasons"(IE follow the money). The invasion is intentional, and no one is actually going to resist it. All the major economic interests, are pushing mass-immigration, because both capitalism and socialism, at their core, are international. The outcome of both capitalism and socialism, is a one-world government.
The invasion is for the purpose of breaking down national borders, to destroy nationalism, once-and-for-all.
"The people" might complain(as they are now), but all the forces, especially the intellectual elites, the economic elites, and the media, will unite to force internationalism on the people, regardless of what "the people" actually want. And they'll attack anyone who resists, as racist, bigoted, a Nazi, or downright evil.
Hitler is never coming back. We already lost. Grow up.
>>55472605
This is so wrong. One world government, if done right, could be fantastic - There'd need to be something big happen before to sort some of our shit out first.
But that's 100% not going to happen. Thats not what these super rich elite "one percenter" bogeymen you mentionned want. They want a long, drawn out rivalry between nations as it creates huge and profitable new industries. Arms, media rights, etc etc
>>55473222
Are you fucking five? A one world government would directly play into the 1% and only the one percent, the complete eradication of national sovereignty would spell disaster for individual nation rights. You would have an easily exploitable web of nations with no body in place to stand up for them, their culture would be eradicated, their people eroded by mass immigration and their resources plundered for the benefit of wherever the rich happen to be living.
>>55473380
>>yfw the internet is the new world order and it's already here
it fits your description perfectly and it's destroying national identity in everyone's mind
and we deserve it for buying into it
instant communication ruined the world forever
Have fun getting divorced you 'Alphas'
>>55473222
>This is so wrong. One world government, if done right, could be fantastic
As your fellow Brit explains, the main beneficiary of a New-World Order, are those men who stand ready to rule. As a general rule, the rich are always international, and the poor are always national. Haven't you read "England your England" by George Orwell?
http://orwell.ru/library/essays/lion/english/e_eye
Furthermore, keep in mind, to the extent that freedom currently exists, it is only to the extent that the freedom has benefited our "rulers". As Milton Friedman explains, "Thank god for government waste, if government was efficient, we would all be slaves".
Your government doesn't care about you, it doesn't care about your freedom. Capitalism was effectively invented by your country, through the "Enclosure acts". When the rich landowners realized that they could make money off their land, raising sheep, than having your peasant ancestors growing barley and drinking beer.
They kicked your ancestors off the land, they went into the cities, with nothing to offer except their labor, in return for livelihoods. To the extent that you are free, it was because emancipating you, to the extent you are emancipated, has allowed for greater economic growth, thus empowering the ruling elites.
The countries which embraced capitalism, became wealthy, and thus, they became powerful. Thus, capitalism dominated the world, because it was a superior economic model. But, once there is a one-world government, there isn't a competition between nations for global hegemony, and thus, your freedom is no longer beneficial for your overlords.
There is nothing wrong with mgtow. End of.
>>55468620
MGTOW
>"Look we don't want you anymore! See! Look at how much we don't care about women! No more marriage, no more families! Want us back yet?
Young, vapid whore (read: the majority of women)
>"Lol no I'm just going to keep fucking Chad I didn't even want you in the first place"
>MGTOW dies alone and childless
>woman dies alone and childless
>>55474018
>cont...
Or in short, once there is a one-world government, why would your masters care if you live? You are nothing but livestock to them. You were useful for expanding their power, but once they have all the power, they no longer need you. And they would prefer a world with less people gobbling up their resources.
>>55469981
No. Most mgtow are people who have been married and have lost everything in the divorce courts. Nice projection though, m8.
>>55468620
>I didn't want to join your stupid club anyway
retarded
sage
>>55474325
Nice statistical data to support your claims m8
You're trying to act as though your opinion is fact, yet every time I've seen some MGTOW its been the male equivalent of a feminist.
>>55472222
entire movement dismantled in one sentence, kek
