>Seventy percent of American males between the ages of 20 and 34 are not married, and many live in a state of “perpetual adolescence” with ominous consequences for the nation’s future.
>The high percentage of bachelors means bleak prospects for millions of young women who dream about a wedding day that may never come. “It’s very, very depressing."
>“They’re not understanding how important it is for the culture, for society, for the strength of the nation to have strong families.”
What's going on with this trend? Why are less and less people marrying one another as time passes?
>>55467887
what good reason do you have to get married? why are people surprised that when men are completely fucked over in divorces, they don't want to get married anymore?
gonna try to explain in like sixty seconds cause I have to piss.
>fear of divorce and losing money/children/house
>premarital sex is no longer taboo; men only married because they wanted to have sex
>porn is fantastic, widely available, and free
>women are now cunts
I'm 23 and not married. A lot of us our learning from our parents mistakes. Not being married is freedom and there's no stress and anxiety to deal with. I want to be able to spend the money I earn on what I want, buy the car I want, do what I want with my house, talk to who I want. Not have to make up reasons just to avoid a fight. Every marriage ends miserably.
>anon, you're too short!
>anon, you're just not rich enough
>anon, you just dont "get" me
>anon, your dick isn't big enough!
>anon, your friends are lame!
>anon, your job is lame and uncool!
>anon, you're not handsome enough
>anon, I need to live, I'm not ready for marriage
>anon, you're too smart and boring!
yeah guys
I'm not "interested"
he he
>>55467887
>The high percentage of bachelors means bleak prospects for millions of young women who dream about a wedding day that may never come. “It’s very, very depressing."
Lol Boo Hoo, princess doesn't get her perfect wedding day.
Marriage is more about the woman than it is the man -- as evidenced by that article.
MEN need to do this; MEN need to do that; etc.
The only reason women want to get married is for the wedding, which is essentially a day of ME: where all the focus is on her; where the whole ceremony is about her. And then the marriage, itself, is all about her; and when it isn't? You can bet that divorce will be all about her, too.
What are women offering so much that the onus is on MEN to make the sacrifice?
Let it crumble
>>55467887
I'm 21, I have been blown off by 3 girls in a row because after we started talking I indicated I wanted a stable relationship.
They ran away as fast as possible, the degeneracy is reaching critical levels, do you guys realize how hypersexualized and totally insane this generation of girls are, most collage girls are SJWs, misguided, and arrogant? The 90% of non chad males are becoming despondent. The marriage and reproduction rate for my generation will be country wrecking low, every girl ive ever dated is adamant they don't want kids
good job yuri, we are done, there is no coming back from a sub 1.3 birth rate. White westerners are done
>>55467887
And there is no reason to do so. All womyn are degenerated cunts that are going to cheat on you with another womyn. I know that, because it happened to me.
>>55468495
even if girls want a stable relationship, most don't want to hear about you planning for the long term with them.
>The high percentage of bachelors means bleak prospects for millions of young women who dream about a wedding day that may never come.
There also sad that the divorce payments will never come.
>>55468417
>>55467887
>Why don't men want to invest in an institution that has a 50% failure rate, ever dimishing returns and a big depreciating asset.
Wew lad, I dunno. Where have all the good men gone?
>>55468269
This. Casually bring up eloping and getting married in a registry office and see what happens. If the girl throws a huge tantrum over it then it should be a huge red flag.
Why should I be interested in being a fucking BIRTHER when BLACKS and LGBTs are being KILLED left and right. shaking my fucking head family why the fuck white women be the worst
>>55468269
>>55468146
>>55468129
>>55468078
>>55468074
>>55467971
literally all of these
I can't speak for other countries but in Australia people are paid to remain this way. Not a bad wage either
>>55467971
Tax breaks
>>55467887
>extreme disincentive to marry because money
>women are less faithful than ever
>women have higher standards than ever
>women have less self control than ever
whats the point of marriage?
whats the benefit?
Honestly answer these questions.
Protip: you cant
>>55467887
>"Perpetual adolescence"
>Not subsidizing a woman's lifestyle means you're an adolescent
lol
>>55467887
That's not true. Gay men are get married. My fiance and I are get married next summer. Feels good bros.
>>55467887
Just because they are not married does not mean they have not been or have not had children.
When divorces became nasty enough for lawyers to specialize on representing men as the balance towards ruling in their favor is non existent, you should have known there was a problem.
>>55468783
Gays are getting married as a fad.
It's just to give the finger to the few people that cared about it and told them no.
>>55468716
create suitable environment for your children
degenerates.
they don't want to marry but don't mind living with their gfs or bfs forever. terrible state of society.
>>55467887
no wealth to start actual "strong" families.
the egalitarian thing isn't going to work out either because women aren't doing any better and they sure as hell don't want anyone they see as less than them. the culture is all about college or you're trash, even in the face of massive malinvestment
>>55468269
the customer is always right but they forget it's a mutual transaction
>>55468078
>I I I I I I I I
>Every marriage ends miserably.
that attitude is your parents mistake, only you continue it without being married.
>>55468544
you have to figure out if she's a girl or a women at some point
>>55468716
it's a goal like any other
protip: kill yourself and you can't take your protips with you
>>55467887
Well interstingly it would seem women are the ones that aren't interested in commitment. They bounce around in the hookup culture they promoted more than anyone else, they initiate most divorces, and they advocate constantly for polyamory.
>>55467887
There is the girl who adores me
I can paraphrase what she said to me as, I want to suck a few dicks, then come and marry you.
Hahaha, I'll pass m8
To put it simply from a male perspective, their aren't enough girls that are marriage material
>>55468869
>implying I would have children put of wedlock
>inb4 hurr durr genetic dead end
If women want to be married, then they need to prove themselves a worthy partner.
ANY female that is not a virgin, that has been tainted by cultural degeneracy whether it be piercings, tattoos, oral sex, drugs, or mass consumerism is GUARANTEED to ruin your marriage.
The ideas of divorce and its 50 percent rate in the country are so widely accepted and used as the backdrop for marriage that you would have to be COMPLETE FUCKING INSANE to take your chances with ANY modern Western white female.
If I told you that you could be given the chance to flush your life down the toilet with a flip of a coin (50% chance just like the divorce rate), then would you take it?
Why bother committing when Chad pumped and dumped her and move on?
Why should you be fucking C U C K enough to accept the same used goods with a loose cunt that spent the prime of her life with dozens of alpha cocks, alcoholic drinks, and drugs and accept her as the mother of your children?
WHY THE EVER LIVING FUCK DOES NO ONE TALK ABOUT THIS?
What is so wrong about wanting a traditionalist, good old American family with a virgin wife and raise a wholesome family without worrying about YOUR OWN WIFE being a traitorous, self-serving, untrustworthy, greedy whore?
More and more, I feel that I am living in a bizarro world. I just want to go back to sleep and wake up in 1950s white America.
>>55468894
>the customer is always right but they forget it's a mutual transaction
That's the issue, however: it's no longer a mutual-transaction; it's become extremely lopsided.
>>55468783
As awesome as I think gay men are, you haven't had the traditional family and values destroyed by SJWs and feminists.
>>55468894
>its a goal like any other
Wow! Now Im convinced.
Ill head on down to the court and elope tomorrow.
>>55468783
>Gay men are get married
I hope that you are ashamed of yourself.
1. For your inattention to grammatical detail
2. Because you will never contribute to the future of society by having your own children.
I am an abstinent gayfag. You do not have a "fiance"... you have a man who both of you are pretending is a fiance. Live in your world of fiction, if you want, but you are both like seed falling on barren ground...completely fucking useless.
>>55468929
You must not love your parents if you don't want to give them grandchildren
I feel sorry for you m9
>>55467887
>What's going on with this trend?
How new are you? Look at the modern world, men (particularly white men) have been systematically marginalised by practically every pressure group out there, just look at what happened to Sir Tim Hunt; a man that has contributed more to the world than the average human, but all he had to do was make a joke AT HIS OWN EXPENSE and he was out of a job before the plane he was on even touched the ground. Literally one foot out of line and you've fucked your whole life. Moreover, the vast majority of typically "male" jobs no longer exist in most western countries, men largely have no reason to get out of bed in a morning. Most men today see just a bleak, pointless world that holds nothing for them.
What we're seeing here looks exactly like the Hikikomori sub culture being transplanted to the US.
>>55469076
I couldnt afford children right now.
The idea is nice but the reality is tough.
>>55468867
>fad
>implying lgbt people are going to stop getting married
>>55468869
>millennials
>children
lol
Here is how you fix it. This is so easy that it's impossible for the government to fuck up. Here we go, buckle up.
Stop taking a Father's kids away from him.
Stop forcing him to pay outrageous sums of money to support his ex-wife's shitty lifestyle.
There, people will now get married again. No need to thank me.
>>55468879
If you care about society then remove marriage as a state sanctioned institution and from the jurisdiction of the civil courts entirely.
Marriage will endure as a religious institution at least and you will have your non-degenerate society. :^)
>>55468894
Found the fat feminist fuck
>>55468504
>cheat on you with another womyn
Who cares?
>>55467887
top kek, there will literally be a generation of women who have no husbands. Men can always marry 18 qts from the next generation, while these women are fucked for life.
>>55468675
The only tax break you get is when the wife isn't working, and that just means the divorce will be all the more brutal.
>>55467887
>who dream about a wedding day
They only want the wedding, they can marry each other if their desire for such party is that big.
>>55468074
All of this, to be frank
>>55467887
Men no longer have a need to have a family/fit gender roles to be successful in life (thanks feminism! that one backfired on ya) and now focus on personal pursuits while making bank
meanwhile, niggers and spics and other shitskins have loads of children and remain perpetually poor trying to pay for their crotchfruit
>>55467887
Feminism.
/thread.
>>55469159
Everyone else is saying to hell with marriage.
>>55469277
>>55468952
>More and more, I feel that I am living in a bizarro world
I know that feel. The good news is that all of this is completely unsustainable. We're going to witness the collapse of all this insanity within our lifetimes. Just sit back, spend your time how you want, and wait for that day to come.
>>55468783
You fucking degenerate, it's utterly disgusting that you're allowed to walk in public freely.
>>55468952
B-because it's sexist and you want to control the life of girls. You support sexist traditional gender roles and because of that, you're an evil bigoted, sexist, and pretty intolerant.
Woman should be empowered enough to do whatever they want with their bodies, BECAUSE IT'S THEIR BODY AND LIFE. WHY DON'T YOU WANT WOMAN TO GET JOBS? STAY AT HOME MOM? TRADITION? IT'S SEXIST.
You should be ashamed. I'm glad men are killing themselves after divorce. they deserve it.
:^)
>>55467887
>Why are less and less people marrying one another as time passes?
It's sad, but it's simple. American women aren't worth marrying. They don't bring enough to the table that is worth our time, effort, money, and love. American women simply aren't good wives.
>>55469190
Are they not one in the same? At Yale and Mizzou, this week, millennials proved themselves to be children.
>>55469213
You forgot the most important policy
Re introduce fault.
>>55469375
IDK man, it's probably pretty cool being in a marriage with someone who has just as high a sex drive as you without any weird drama attached to it
>>55467887
>perpetual adolescence
let me guess. an angry hambeast feminist wrote this
>>55469436
>tfw you'll never find a woman who has the same sex drive as you and has the same personality as you
Maybe I should go gay...
>>55469436
Pounding a man's hairy ass, truly bliss.Do you listen to yourself ? Also, they're no strangers to drama.
>>55469560
Fuck a mirror
Show me one fucking movie made in the last 30 years where a white family is depicted as happy, with men and women co-operating instead of being in a power struggle, and where the kids are content and obedient to their parents.
Conversely, let's see how many movies depict the glories of promiscuity, selfish hedonism, adolescent arrogance and disobedience, divorce, etc.
All of this was planned. It's propaganda. It's not even just the Jews. It's our gentile overlords as much as our Jewish overlords who despise us and don't want us having healthy families. They think that there are too many of us, they are worried about "overpopulation".
It's not that men don't want to get married it's that women now-days have such insanely high standards for marriage that most men have just simply given up trying when most men will never reach any of those standards. What's even more annoying for me is that all these women don't even come close to meeting their own standards that they have for men.
My parents marriage (and I am sure many of your parents marriages) wouldn't have even taken place if they met in our times. Women in their 20s and 30s now are completely different to the women of our parents in their 50s and 60s.
>>55467887
I literally see no reason to get married. Its only a potential detriment to me. Thanks, feminism.
>>55469575
The bantz
>>55467887
>shackling yourself to marriage for the sake of your nation
Fuck off.
>>55469489
>
let me guess. an angry hambeast feminist wrote this
LOL
Everytime
Hilarious how all of these types of articles put the entire responsibility for the destruction of the nuclear family on men.
>>55469575
Haha what's truly hilarious here is that ypu, a homophobe, are the only one causing drama. Did you accidentally click on a penis thread in /b/?
Also, hairy asshole probably doesn't feel all that different from hairy muff, and gays are notoriously better about hygiene than women. Have you ever seriously been around a woman for any length of time? They're fucking filthy
>>55469277
this would be sweet and I am banking on it
>>55469489
don't you want to spend all your money on your wife's shit then when she divorces you takes all your money and everything you will earn in the future, you fucking manchild?????
>>55467887
>means bleak prospects for millions of young women who dream about a wedding day that may never come
feminism made the bed and now lie in it
>>55469213
Everyone with a half brain realizes how easy it is to fix institution of marriage and patch up economy.
But it is not being done because it's much easier to make taxes high, putting most of society at near-poverty levels despite working 40+ hours a week, and offer them "help" with welfare/"free: education / healthcare etc so they grow dependant and grateful of the public sector.
Most of western population is deep into demoralization phase (Yuri's Bezmenov explained that process well).
>>55469619
Yeah no shit, girls are pumped up with a princess mentality by Disney when they are young so they expect a prince charming to come and save their lives, and then when they are adolescent the same company tells them to fuck around, and this obviously leads to them being jaded because sluts are always ashamed of themselves whether they admit it or not. They become man-haters.
I honestly do not have much hatred for these girls. The people who promote this filth in the schools and media are a trillion times more wicked than they are. They are just sheep following their shepherd mindlessly, and you can hardly expect them to do different because that's how people are made.
>>55468952
So much this, though asking for a virgin is a bit on the edge, but you are indeed onto something. I think a woman in her 20's shouldn't need more than one hand to count her sexual partners.
Also, men are supposed to bang as many women as possible, and it should therefore be acceptable for a man to have more sexual encounters than a female. To a certain degree.
>because nature.
About marriage,
Women have almost nothing to bring to the table but love and sex these days. Things that will eventually sting you. These things can easily be found outside of a marriage.
>>55469674
holy shit, wow. pol really is always right
Feminists are reaping what they have sowed over the last 30 years. My last two GFs spoke of marriage at least once a week. My most recent was talking about plans with my parents. But the moment they sense hardship or trouble they bounce the fuck out because they think they can find anyone. I thought I wanted to get married, but I just realized its the women I date that want to get married. I see it makes them happy but I know it won't make me happy.
Realized do what makes me happy and being married isn't gonna do that.
>>55469814
You do realize how retarded what you just wrote is, right?
>men should fuck around a lot
>women shouldn't
So you're either gonna all be fucking the village hooker back to back, or each other retard
>>55469689
sadly in an ironic way they're kinda right,
the fact that men are superior means it's ultimately our fault for not being men, accepting the porn and letting it all happen. If you really want to be anti-feminist you have to realize that women are too easily manipulated to ever be at fault for anything and it's all different groups of men using them as tools or weapons against others. Like there's a reason why the Bible has harsher penalties for a woman's father for prostituting her than for the whore herself. And why it's whoremongers who burn in hell, not whores.
>>55469073
>I'm a self-hating closetfag
>you're not in a real marriage because you can't reproduce
And...? If we want kids we can just adopt.
>>55469809
>disney
>prince charming saving their life
thats actually the premise behind Frozen
>>55469871
>Feminists are reaping what they have sowed over the last 30 years.
This is what the Feminists wanted though. Their aim from the very beginning was to destroy marriage (they said this openly). You have to realise that Feminism is comprised mainly of a radical sect of lesbian communists, and that all the other "Feminists" are just brainwashed idealists who naively think they are doing the right think.
Feminists don't give a SHIT about women. Most women want to be married, at home looking after kids, looked after my men. That's 99% of women. It's just that radical 1% of witches that ought to be burned at the stake telling all the rest of the woman what womanhood consists of.
There used to actually be a reason to marry in the past. You needed someone to stay home and take care of the house. Cleaning, cooking, laundry, and taking care of the kids. You could work a single full time job and be able to afford a home, maybe a small one but a home none the less, all your bills and food and even afford to pay for another adults shit. Now it takes both people working just to raise one kid. Which means no one home doing the housework shit. No one home to actually raise the kids. I mean it sounds horrible but having a wife that works full time is just having a room mate you happen to sleep in the same bed with and occasionally fuck. Women used to look at there husbands as hard working providers and men looked at their wives as loving organized care givers. Now neither appreciates the other because they both work and are tired all the time.
>>55467887
no it has to do with that women have insane standards due to jew media and
the fact they are all vapid cunts who are completely uninteresting
and since they don't cook, clean, or make babies it makes them completely useless except for a sperm dispenser
>>55470000
I am not in the closet at all. All of the people who I care about know that I am gay, but choose to be abstinent. The world does not revolve around my dick.
Cry or adopt as much as you want, but they will never be genetically, your children.
You and I share a common mental disorder. the only difference is that I recognize it as a mental disorder, while you obstinately refuse to do so.
>>55467887
Why would i want to marry when all my sexual needs are met by drunk sluts at bars and freaky sluts at school? I literally have my dick kept wet by one of the many sluts without any of the responsibility. It would be stupid of me to marry.
>tfw you were born too early to marry your sexbot
>>55467887
I have dated *1* girl, ever, whose parents were still together. And my parents, and the majority of my friend's parents, are no longer together. It's a lesson learned from the previous generation. Marriage = divorce. Divorce = shit. Why get married in the first place? It's not like it's not socially acceptable to have kids outside of marriage.
>>55470253
>not just using a surrogate if you want kids
The only mental disorder you have is being a retard
>>55467887
>bleak prospects for millions of young women who dream about a wedding day that may never come
lol, fuck those whores, man
>>55467887
Why would I want to get married?
I'm 26, have a job making more than twice the average household income every year and have bright prospects for the future.
I've slept with 12 ladies, and had 4 serious girlfriends over the years. As I get older I get more confident and better at seducing ladies. When I see guys in their late 40's/early 50's in bars picking up chicks in their 20's I am inspired to be like that when I get older.
I can build up wealth, have an active social life, and bang bitches. Marriage would grind all of that to a halt, best case scenario.
Worst case, I get hitched, the bitch pulls a fast one and "forgets" to take her birth control one week then I have a fucking kid to take care of for the next 18 years. If she divorces me I'll pay most of my salary for child support/alimony.
Marriage is for betas.
>>55470191
You are being too harsh. Don't blame the women themselves so much. You have to understand that it's extremely, extremely hard for people not to go along with cultural trends because they naturally do not want to be outcasts, and this is especially the case for women. It's the leaders of culture that are mostly to blame.
I can think of three girls off of the top of my head who it breaks my heart to think about them growing up in this culture where it will be almost impossible for them to find happiness. All three good-hearted girls who would have found some contentment and meaning in life in marriage are being forced to compete in a heartless job market, looking for "boyfriends", being told constantly to worry about their make-up and appearance, etc. These fucking women are just as much victims as they are criminals.
>>55467887
feminsim is going on
pic related
>>55469920
We're made this way, retard. It's not rocket science. This is 3rd grade animal kingdom knowledge.
>a woman fucks a man
>gets pregnant
>man leaves because he has now secured his offspring and genepool onto the next generation
>woman risks death to carry forth the baby
Therefore a woman has to choose the best possible partner she can find. The man has to prove himself.
>>55470036
not our problem. they are grown up people and have to endure the responsibilities of their own actions. My favourite Irony is that thanks to feminism women changed their calm and protected life as housewives with children into the daily grind men have to endure. Makes me laugh everytime.
>>55467887
I am 25 and already going through a divorce.
>normal relationship
>get married after 1.5 years
>1 year into marriage she turns into a fucking weirdo
>accuses me of marital rape with zero evidence
>case is dropped by police after 5 weeks due to zero evidence
I have a new girl now who knows I am still technically married, but is fine with it. Much, much more mature and I am not going to rush with her at all into anything like marriage (well I legally can't until my divorce is allowed anyway).
Avoid rushing into marriage.
Luckily we don't have any joint assets. Also ex-wife will be deported soon :)
>>55470253
Sorry no quads, but you're the only one with mental problems.
>>55470318
Every girl i've dated had a horrible relationship with at least one parent. That might be me just picking the same type of women but even girls i've worked with usually had a parent they hated/had a bad relationship with.
>>55470425
You'd be better off dead.
You should look up things like r/TheRedPill, mgtow videos, and Tom Leykis
>>55470482
>Also ex-wife will be deported soon
lol
>>55470469
>dat ass
I'd hatefuck Anita Sark-whateverherJewishnameis
>>55470469
>My favourite Irony is that thanks to feminism women changed their calm and protected life as housewives with children into the daily grind men have to endure.
Women did not choose it though. It was chosen FOR them by the oligarchs, the money men, who decided to fund the radical lesbian sect that we know as Feminism. My poor, blue-eyed sister did not decide to give up traditional culture and marriage. No, she was brought up in a world where she would be brainswashed from a very early age with values that would eventually make her miserable. This is the case for 99% of women growing up today.
>>55470360
>Surrogate
>Partner
Choose one and only one.
Face it man, you and another guy, can never fucking reproduce.
You are mentally abnormal, like myself.
You have to take the first step.
Recognize it.
>>55470525
>being happy, successful, and kept deep in fresh, young pussy is a bad thing
Go back to fantasizing about how great the 40's were, the real world forgot about you a long time ago
>>55467887
Tl;dr: manlets
>>55470578
Indeed
Bitch tried to fuck me over and stay in the UK by claiming I abused her - by doing this she can get a domestic violence visa.
Luckily British police are racist as fuck and dropped that shit like a hot potato and now the Border Agency will track her down, lock her in a cell and deport her back to Russia :)
>>55470665
You aren't happy or successful by any good standard.
>>55470621
>two men can't reproduce
NO, TELL ME MORE
You are truly mentally disabled, and being gay has nothing to do with it
>>55470611
>brainswashed
personal responsibility, m8. Anyone is able to reflect on it's own values, behaviour and goals in life.
>>55470692
Did you import her in the first place?
/int/erpals success story?
>>55470611
>No, she was brought up in a world where she would be brainswashed from a very early age with values that would eventually make her miserable
That's still no excuse. We were ALL raised with the same bullshit being forced onto us we didn't end up as useful idiots.
>>55468783
>courts can't decide which fag to award the alimony to
>both get off free and can go fuck as much as they want
Wow I wonder why fags have an easier time with marriage than non-fags?
I'm 20 years old, never had a girlfriend and never had sex. Feels good knowing I don't have to spend all my money on a woman.
>>55470732
I am not the one trying to claim that being a faggot is normal.
I know a have a gf and she wants to get married...
I know i dont want to get married...
Just wanna play vydea
The problem is with society's values. Society has become too sexualized, degeneracy has become the norm men are afraid of being virgin so they resort to pre-marital sex. You won't fix anything unless you destroy the degenerate elements. Abortion, pre-marital sex, divorce gay marriage, etc.
I'm 21 and a virgin I simply want a traditional Catholic marriage. I don't give a fuck about sex. I've had the opportunity to get sex but I just feel uneasy because of my upbringing to go through with it and remain faithful until marriage. I expect the same for my future wife.
I am apart of a traditional culture (Assyrian) so there are a still a few traditional girls left in my culture, given that the Church is a significant part of our culture this makes sense. If all else fails I'll marry an Assyrian from Syria or Iraq or something in an arranged marriage as a backup option.
Ultimately I blame the degenerate culture and lack of Christian values and a hatred for past traditions.
I'll probably move away from the West in the future, the degeneracy is reach ridiculous levels and the future seems very bleak in the West.
>>55470738
>>55470758
Sure, but most people are weak-willed so you can hardly hate them. I mean, who is more malicious, these girls doing what they are told to do, or the "social engineers" in power who literally plot how the lives of the next generation are going to play out, giving absolutely no fucks about their lives or happiness if it suits their power and money-making scheme? I mean, look at abortion. These psychopaths don't hold anything sacred. They will fill our nations with baby-sacrificing temples if it suits them.
>>55470812
Having that closeness with another person is very nice. But the baggage that can come with it is enough to break anyone's will. Just up to you how much you're willing to put up with. If you wanna be a 30 year old wizard no one will look down on you.
>>55470435
>It's the leaders of culture that are mostly to blame.
i agree, but I broke the spell .. why can't they?
>>55470756
She studied law here, so did I.
We had been together in total for 3.5 years.
1.5 years of marriage.
She was totally normal until the last 6 months of our relationship when she turned very cold and strange. Then out of the blue I got police bursting into my house, taking my computers, locking me in a cell and arrested me for rape.
5 weeks after they dropped it due to no evidence. She tried to stay at her friends house and apply for new jobs thinking nothing would happen.
But I wrote to the Home Office with all her details (fucktard's mail from her employer still came here which included her new address), and they will curtail her visa and deport.
She even took our marriage certs so it is fucking annoying as hell for me to file. She tried to buy as much time as possible to switch visas.
New girl is chill as fuck though, she was engaged in her previous relationship and got cheated on despite being 9/10, so she is very loving and intimate, and doesn't find my situation too crazy.
>>55470883
Tell her want you want to do and find a compromise. If its something you don't want to do then back the fuck out. Don't compromise your own happiness for someone else. Especially if that person isn't family.
>>55470952
>New girl is chill as fuck though, she was engaged in her previous relationship and got cheated on despite being 9/10, so she is very loving and intimate, and doesn't find my situation too crazy.
Sounds like you definitely got the better end of the deal, especially since the crazy ex is going to get shipped home.
>>55470360
>surrogate
You're a fucking disgusting egocentric piece of shit m8
End yourself
>>55470940
Because in any given generation probably only 2% have the right temperament (reflective and enjoying solitude enough to think and separate oneself from others) to actually do it, and of that 2% probably 95% are men.
>>55469076
You must not love your children if you brought them into this shithole of a world just so some people who will be dead in 20 years can have some kids to play with on holidays.
Sheer selfishness on behalf of granny.
>>55470908
>I mean, who is more malicious, these girls doing what they are told to do, or the "social engineers" in power who literally plot how the lives of the next generation are going to play out, giving absolutely no fucks about their lives or happiness if it suits their power and money-making scheme?
I'm not saying they're as bad as the engineers, but you still have to be held accountable for your actions, even if someone else told you to do so. Simply saying "I was just following orders!" doesn't work.
>>55471039
>shipped home
Hopefully she will also get a 10 year ban for visa fraud by attempting to claim fictional domestic abuse.
Which would be fine by me since her degree is in English law, not much opportunity for work in Moscow with that, stupid cunt :)
>>55470253
This guy is definitely right.
Falling in love with the same sex means that you can't reproduce, which is the only thing humans were designed to do. Therefore being gay is a fault in the matrix, a mental illness.
The only question is how acceptable this mental illness is. I think it should be accepted in society at the same level as mild autism or even anxiety or eating disorders. Common disorders that don't really bother anyone. Likewise there should be treatment available for those who seek it.
>>55471068
You couldn't be more emo if you tried.
>>55467887
70%
Got a sauce?
>>55471095
I'm a Catholic, I am all for moral responsibility. I am saying you have to have a sense of the scale of evil. Christ didn't go around railing against the sinners; he saved all of his harsh words for the hypocrites in power.
>>55469348
I excitedly await the collapse. It's going to be glorious.
>>55471043
pizza pizza a-spaghetti
>>55470952
>and they will curtail her visa and deport.
nice
>>55469404
I ment the notion of them ever having children of their own
>>55468074
>women are now cunts
just that, tbqh familia
>>55470764
>US Courts can't into marriage equality
>that's not fair anon!
It's not our fault the courts are still have a backwards mentality when it comes to marriage equality.
>>55471215
burger burger nigger cock
>>55471170
>https://archive.is/T2ItA
Archived link for your traffic-resistant pleasure.
>>55469720
>homophobe
no one is afraid of fags, it's just disgusting and normal people recognize this
I've been married 7 years with my wifu
It's nice having a life partner
We're made for it
>tell women they should have a lot of sex and never commit to any man
>complain men are not willing to marry you after you hit the wall
modern womyn in a nutshell
>tfw my fiance lost her virginity to me
Feels good, man
>>55471307
is she 2d?
>>55471206
There might be a few months of shitposting on 4chan before the rape and murder is brought to your street m8
This is what happens when you dont have your own little fascist dictator watching over your country. Sure equality is nice but it just doesnt work.
>>55471401
How do you know? Did you pop her cherry?
>>55471068
>dont reproduce
>sell house built by your grand father, taken care of by following 2 generations just to spend it on your pleasures because there's no one to inherit it anyway
I feel sorry for people that are disconnected from their families so much. I guess this is what happens when you have left ruling your country.
>>55471158
>Likewise there should be treatment available for those who seek it.
I am not aware of any regiment that will change my sexual orientation. I wish that there were such an option. Homosexuality is, obviously, an aberration.
No one can tell me that if my homosexuality was caused by a combination of nature ant nurture, that it also cannot be cured by a combination of nature and nurture.
My opinion;
1 - A significant decline in emotional intelligence across the western world. Generally put down to more technology, less time spent socializing both adults and children. And also social skills/emotional intelligence being less necessary for survivial: in agrarian socities, as all were pre 1750, you spend all day in the fields working cooperatively and if you fuck up or have a fight with your coworker you die because no food. Now in western(and many other) countries its virtually impossible not to survive and have kids.
2- Social acceptability meaning couples that before would have stayed in terrible marriages now don't have to. Moreover, couples don't need to stay together just to make ends meet, you can easily live as single mum/dad.
Odds are its a bit of both.
>>55471401
Iktf. My fiance lost his cherry to me. He clenched too much, but he has gotten better with time.
>>55471574
You dont have to be attracted to girls to enjoy fucking them.
>>55467887
Why the fuck would I want to get married? I bust my ass in college, try to find a good girl on the side. A lot of us do find one, but most of us are left out in the cold because the women want to party, have fun, live their golden years. I've seen so many great guys that were my friends, dumped by women because they didn't want to "tie themselves down yet."
Then I graduate, get a job, actually start enjoying life, and women are looking at me. All these women working at stores, restaurants, bars, giving me their numbers, trying to get hitched to me. Cause look at the statistics, women go for the lower paying jobs, the easy jobs you can get with the shit degrees. Because they barely had time to even get a shit degree while they were slutting it up at frat parties. We've all seen the fucking pictures.
So they regret fucking up their life, throwing away all the good relationships, and realize "No shit! I was a fucking moron and threw away my future for a good time." So they'll put on their makeup and act sweet, lie just enough to get some poor bastards engaged to them (which is pretty easy when you just give them the emotional and romantic and physical support they have been starved of their entire fucking live) and then surprise you get the stereotype miserable man who works his ass off all die while the woman stays home with the kids. Or worse they get a divorce and then for some fucked up reason she is entitled to half his shit that she didn't earn.
So no shit men aren't getting married. Men are wising up and realizing "Holy shit, I learned how to be fucking happy on my own, even if I find what I think is a good girl, there is no fucking reason for me to pledge the rest of my life, TILL DEATH DO US PART, just because things are going good now!" You know how many times I thought life was going good only for something to fuck me over? What's the chances you find another human that just magically does not fuck you over like everything else in life has.
>>55468269
This.
>But it's MY day!
God I fucking hate women. I wish I was a faggot.
>>55467887
>be 15
>mom wants to divorce my father
>starts shit talking him to be
>see through her bullshit
>sister eats it up
>divorce papers signed
>mom gets house
>I move into a small place with my dad
>have to listen to him cry every nights for months through the shit thin walls
Fast forward 15 years
>omg boys are so immature for not wanting to get married
>>55471772
Fucking word limit. So yeah, that's why men aren't getting married. They've wisened up.
>>55471724
>You dont have to be attracted to girls to enjoy fucking them.
How do you expect him get hard if he's not attracted?
>>55469219
This too.
>>55467887
>women become stuck up cunts
>men start to hate them
>men decide to plow through younger women while saving money
>women get poor and hit the wall
>niggers have no standards so women hop on them
>white people die out
now who could be behind this?
As any economist knows, human behavior is mostly controlled by incentives and consequences.
What incentives are there for getting married? Few, if any.
But then contrast that with the risks/consequences.
What sane man would want to get married? Without any incentives, the only reason to get married, is in an attempt to "claim" the other person, basically, to hold onto her, and to hope to prevent her from leaving you. But honestly, marriage is no guarantee that she won't cheat on you, or leave you, and fuck you over in the divorce.
Most of the men who are getting married, are are likely being pushed into marriage by their parents, or their religion. And who would otherwise be indifferent.
Honestly, if you're getting married, you're part of the problem. This ship needs to sink, stop bailing the water, turn off the pumps, it is pointless. You're just delaying the inevitable.
>>55468074
That was a very good 60 second explanation. I hope you had a good piss.
I am too busy buying guns, ammunition, gear, training and preparing for the coming second revolutionary war that will occur in the U.S. very shortly.
I have targets picked out, battle strategies prepared, weapons stashes set up all over.
The only thing left is for the LibKeks to make their push against the second amendment then I unleash all holy hell upon them.
I intend to hit them so violently and brutally that they will have no idea what the fuck is happening until it is already too late.
No time to raise babies and have a wife when there is so little time left to make preparations for what is coming down the pipe.
>>55471724
Yeah, I am one of those faggot cases who is not attracted to women, except in a cerebral sense. If a stripper does a lap dance for me, we end up in a conversation. You do have to be attracted to get your dick hard.
>>55471861
masturbate a little beforehand to whatever gets you going
>>55471772
You speak the truth.
>>55471539
I did, bloody sheets and everything
>>55469489
well I guess men need to MAN UP amirite?
>>55471970
Reporting to FBI. Have a nice day anon.
>>55472039
Ok, just as long as she didn't say she was virgin when she actually wasn't.
Good on ya getting a wife and not getting keked.
>>55467887
Because they learned from their parents mistakes.
>>55470729
>You aren't happy
I lol'd at this.
I'm in the same situation as >>55470425
Getting paid well, very very bright prospects in the near future.
I'm planning on taking another trip to Beijing this coming summer. I just got back from Vegas.
Why would I jeopardize a great lifestyle that makes me happy?
>>55472005
>masturbate
defeats the purpose of fucking a woman now doesn't it? Especially since he doesn't like women.
If I had to guess why the percentage was so high, I would say it's because since the number of divorces has gone up in the past few decades, the male children who were raised by divorced parents were given the impression that marriage is a failed concept, so they never really thought about getting married, or cared for that matter. There are of course exceptions to this, and some of those males do still get married.
Not to mention, it's much easier to be promiscuous with technology, and everyone is aware. This means three things
>the woman in the relationship can cheat on you with ease and hide the evidence
>the woman can afford to leave you and find someone else at the first sign of difficulty because finding another partner is so easy
>you, as a man, can have more promiscuous sex, and the thought of stopping that to commit would go against your desires
If we're being honest, marriage will probably die out eventually and those who choose monogamy will be in the minority.
>>55472043
What is that thing?
>the average age of cats, Netflix, Dominos delivery, and "where have all the good men gone" getting lower and lower, inversely correlated with women's self-entitlement
>>55470898
>I am apart of a traditional culture
So you're separate from a traditional culture?
apart =/= a part
Personally?
Im an upper middle class white male, im over privileged because my family has money not because im white. So i work a part time desk job my parents gave to me, because own the company. Decide to go back to school for CS and will finish next may at age 26. I pay for school, so its a cheap state school. I'll finish with zero debt and 5 figure net worth, yeah im frugal too.
>The above pretty much rules out my datability.
Other reasons:
>Im mostly attracted to my own race, but they like other races of men
>A lot are just crazy
>Kids cost too much
>USA is being invaded by brown and black people who hate whites
>I have BDD and work out and keep my face clean as hell and have had girls walk up to me and tell me im hot, still think im ugly.
>>55472117
The purpose of fucking women is kappa pride.
>>55472112
this is my biggest reason
I don't know about anyone else but the reason I don't care to get married is because thanks to circumcision sex sucks and I am mostly asexual
>>55472061
Hurr, that anon makes me nervous, even though he has offered no specific threats, just general hyperbole...therefore I will report him to the FBI.
God damn you are fucking coward. How does the leather taste?
>In the event of divorce, which is highly likely, men lose everything
>Reliable sex used to only come with marriage, now women are whores and sex is readily available
>Women are feminists who control everything and scream oppression
>Now they are literally shocked no man wants to settle down
Top kek, close your legs and keep your virginity past the age of 24 and I guarantee you marriage would instantly jump back up at least 50%, even with the severe consequences of divorce looming. Women are whores though, so good luck explaining that they are used goods without them exploding with "Patriarchy!" immediately.
>>55470444
Boy I bet your woman loves it when you explain this to her.
>>55467887
This is a fucked stat, men ages 20-26 dont even need to be thinking about marriage yet.
>>55471912
it just shows how shitty women are. if you have to control them then why bother? if they cant use their brains to think about the long term then why rope yourself into a marriage? marriage worked in the past because women knew they were subservient to men and not on the same level. letting them compete with men just made them even more uppity, just like the niggers
>>55468078
>i am a milennial
Don't worry, the next two generations are just going to say the same thing.
>Lots of basic white western whores throwing themselves at me
>Be disgusted, most of them either hambeasts or rad-fems
>Meet current wife
>Virgin (that hymen was a fighter), never saw a penis cum (it scared her the first time), hates feminism, loves America, perfect housewife that cooks and cleans, 38 G breasts, thin waist, big ass, sucks good dick
Sometimes you strike gold gents.
>inb4 yeah right anon
Make sure you get a stainless steel wedding ring. You don't look like a gaudy freak, and you can wear it while you work. Just get one cheap from Wal-Mart or some shit, save that money for a good honeymoon. Don't forget you can totally destroy the hotel room if you don't intend to stay there again. I came on the pillows and we just flipped them over and laughed about it.
We were sitting in the hotel room and some black dude walked by down on the street and we saw him out the window and the first thing out of her mouth was, "Oh look the one black guy in Colorado how neat. Oh that reminds me is there a KFC near here? I've never tried it."
Fucking golden. Pure fucking gold.
>>55471307
I envy you.
>>55472043
I like how the article says that 70% of MEN aren't married. If it's 70% of men then it should be about equal number for women, no?
If it wasn't biased trash it would say something along the lines:
"70% of todays 20-34 year olds aren't marrying"
the reason why so few males are getting married is because a majority of them are products of the 1980s and 90s divorce court system.
having experienced that bullshit first hand growing up and watching how their fathers got fucked over out of everything they held dear, it was imprinted on their minds that marriage=divorce=you lose 100% of everything because you have a penis.
a large part of the blame rests on the court system itself.
Who the fuck wants to be legally bound to another person anyway? Then when said person gets bored, loses interest, and divorces you you have to give them at LEAST half your shit if you're lucky. No thanks man. I'll stick to freedom and staying financially stable.
>>55471970
Hello CIA
>>55467887
Because
MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY
NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA
MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY
NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA NIGGA
Society is on a fast descent to hell. I welcome it.
>>55472365
Men and women over the age of 30 have an increased chance of producing retard kids or kids with medical fuckups, 20's are pretty much the prime age for childbearing, the problem is everyone in the west, men and women are treating their 20's like an extended adolescence.
>>55472482
not a bad explanation bill guy the science fellow
>>55467887
>perpetual adolescence
Let me guess, this article was written by a woman?
Besides, disregarding all else, if you were to run a cost-benefit analysis of marriage, most people would find that its not worth it. If women are concerned about this, then alimony needs to be a thing of the past (after all, we live in an egalitarian society), at the very least.
>>55472424
We all know that millennials, in general, suck.
It is mainly the fault of GenX parents and teachers that this occurred.
>>55472534
My wife and I opted out of kids, I got the permanent solution to that.
We figure if after 30 we're set for life, we'll adopt a kid.
>>55468074
Seeing this is /thread...
How was your piss?
>>55467887
this was predicted in 2010
http://www.singularity2050.com/2010/01/the-misandry-bubble.html
feminism made it not worth it
fuck marriage, you can better cut your balls off give them in a bag to your women. And include the keys of your house in that bag.
Shitty deal for men.
>>55472303
>has targets picked out
>mentally unstable
It doesn't saying 70% of those men are single. People are just getting married later. You guys are so fucking /r9k/.
>>55472534
as far as i am concerned, 25 is around the age you are no longer a child. 30 is when you start waking up. its a shame that biology of 30+ fucks with reproduction but ideally people should have kids after 25/30
>>55472449
>stainless steel wedding ring
>mfw working in a metal shop
>never wearing rings again or after the shit I've seen
>>55472667
you can't just leave us with that
elaborate anon
>>55471772
Well put, polbro.
>Group of ~6 highschool friends
>Graduated 4 years ago
>3 guys got married
>Ones wife is pretty cool
>Ones wife won't let him hang with the group on our Xbox weekends
>Ones wife won't stop shouting at him every time anyone from the group is over there, pretty sure divorce looming, already have a kid
>One girl in the group
>She has 2 kids from 2 different guys out of wedlock
>Already been through a divorce and is collecting child support from husband
>Me and other single guy have decent jobs and spend all our money on whatever the fuck we want
>Got back from a trip to the Philippines a few months ago, plan on going again next year
>Other single group member is coming next time
I can literally just look to my circle of friends to find why I'm not married, nor do I ever really plan on it.
>>55472406
Democracy is basically communism. Democracy means equality. As soon as Democracy was established, what we have was inevitable.
I don't even care anymore. We aren't going to fix the problem by voting. I no longer believe there is even a way to fix the problem.
>>55467887
It's obvious. Marriage wasn't the same that was 100 years ago, now a man can lose 50% or more of what he had if a woman want divorce. This if a women do not say that her husband raped her, so the guy can be put on jail.
Women become sluts that just want a serious relationships when they're old, used, disgusting or want someone to take care of sperm of other men.
Anyway, no one want to put a child in a world that things like gender identity or stare rape become more commom day after day. The morality disappeared, theres no reason to reproduce.
>>55468554
HIGHLY UNDERRATED POST
>There also sad that the divorce payments will never come.
hahaha, comedy gold I tell you what, hahahahaha
>>55472589
To me, choosing to adopt is the same exact decision that a faggot like me might one day make.
I have to be honest. You and your wife are just pathetic.
You are both heterosexual and you still choose idiosyncratic materialistic desires over having a child of your own. Instead you choose to adopt a child who is genetically foreign to your family.
You are throwing away a gift that I wish that I had.
>>55471267
>Young women who adhere to a moral code and refuse to participate in the “hook up” culture are now considered social misfits, Crouse pointed out. And they face even more daunting odds of finding a husband than their promiscuous sisters.
Well, I guess that explains it.
>>55472449
>38 G breasts
whatever nigger
>>55472738
I've seen that shit too man, doing lathe work with a ring on is insanely risky, they show you all sorts of videos and pictures of fingers completely stripped of flesh as the lathe pulls the ring off during lathe training, same for electrical work, if you get seriously shocked the damage is minimal unless you have metal jewelry on, in which case that area gets superheated and the flesh essentially explodes right off.
>>55472621
Whom did he threaten, specifically, in that post?
>>55472790
You regularly go to the Philippines so you're a sex tourist, that's why you won't get married.
>>55468923
She just wants to have her fun and lock you down. Smart move staying away from her.
Because fuck the women
http://i.imgur.com/3oKVRvz.jpg
Married, almost made it to the 1 year mark. Waiting to see if my marriage falls apart because of Fallout 4.
>>55472992
Eh, it's super cheap, I like asians, and 18 yo's that love blonde whites with blue eyes flock to me like crazy, even the random non-professionals.
I've never gotten so much positive sexual attention, it's incredibly intoxicating.
>>55472911
>Wanting to destroy your wife's body with childbirth
>Wanting to pay for the costs of childbirth
I'll throw away 12 gifts you "wish" you had. I don't know you, I don't owe you shit.
You don't know what I can pass down genetically. And neither does my wife and that's the way it stays, because she doesn't want to give birth and there's no reason to say anything about it under those circumstances.
>create a system that punishes men for getting married
>WHY AREN'T MEN GETTING MARRIED ANYMORE
>>55469073
You sound repressed. Wanna netflix and fuck senpai? I promise to be gentle and cuddle you in our glorious cum-stained afterglow.
>>55472229
>Im mostly attracted to my own race, but they like other races of men
Wow delusional as fuck and running counter to all actual studies on the subject as well as anecdotal evidence
>USA is being invaded by brown and black people who hate whites
How is this not a reason to date and have kids? It sounds like you're just trying to fit in on /pol/ while talking about how much money you have while also talking about how much of that money you don't want to spend on kids.
>I have BDD and work out and keep my face clean as hell and have had girls walk up to me and tell me im hot, still think im ugly.
So you also have self-esteem issues, okay
>>55472738
>guy wearing wedding ring
>slips on an oil stain someone didn't put enough kitty litter on
>throws his and out to catch himself on the wall
>ring gets caught on the screws holding a tool board in
>degloves his finger
>give that a google if you want
We also got a very graphic video and slideshow about that next morning as to why you don't wear rings at work.
>>55473188
Its funny how women complain about this, but instead of looking at themselves, they further blame men. They will never learn. I hope they enjoy their lonely existence of watching Netflix all day and never knowing the joys of having a family.
>>55473047
>the anus is quite literally in the rectum
except no it isn't. Holy shit these people are fucking retarded.
>>55472929
Well yes, you dont do any kind of physical work with jewelery on.
Thats a fucking given, and a safety standard in many workplaces.
>>55473261
Those pictures from my HS shop class safety training will haunt me to my grave.
>>55471307
No you fuckin jap you're supposed to say
>7 years with wife
>Nice having a life partner
>We are made for it
>>55473315
prostate, bruh
Read it again
>>55473159
>because she doesn't want to give birth
You are such a fucking kek. Do you have a bull in the pen while you live in the shed?
God damn, you may be more of a faggot than an actual homosexual like myself.
>>55473250
im not delusional.
ugh, they hate white men and want us extinct and its only going to get worse.
yeah i guess if thats low self esteem, in regards to my physical appearance.
>>55467887
because american girls are too feminist these days and nobody wants to put up with them anymore
that, and more men just simply like dick, it seems.
>>55473367
>prostate, bruh
fuck, meant to say that.
>>55473245
I am not repressed...I am rational.
And if women think it's bad now, just wait until we have the ability to grow a fetus completely in vitro thus rendering their uteruses obsolete.
>>55473330
I have no idea why its rings. I've got a bunch of friends in nursing and med school and I've seen a ton of fucked up shit and didn't bat an eye but knee and finger injuries just make me really uncomfortable.
When I talk to women my age and talk about marriage and children I hear..
>I'm to scared to get married, I'm still young
>I don't want something growing inside of me
They were in their late 20s
Having a relationship is a waste of time
ISLAM IS THE ANSWER! INSHA ALLAH, the flag of Mohammed PBUH will fly over the white house one day
23 here. Dated once when I was like 14, for 8 months. Haven't done anything since. *Literally* 0 interest. I'd rather shitpost and go /out/. Fuck women and their bullshit
>>55473456
If that were the case, you would go out and work the faggot-scene. Middle aged gay men and older have lots of net worth, and are usually looking to settle down by age 30+.
I live in Cali, and just recently got married to my fag-o-husband-o. We both work high end tech jobs and combined make a ton of money to essentially just spend on us.
Gay white master race reporting senpai. Women are overrated, go get yourself a man with a job.
>>55473330
>>55473261
>>55472790
i work at a warehouse so really conveyor systems is about the only dangerous thing (excluding shit falling on you) and i have seen fingers get caught on the rollers/belt all because of a ring.
under normal circumstances, they all would have been fine and their finger would have never gotten stuck, but because they had a ring on, their hand got fucked up.
moral:
DONT WEAR RINGS WHILE DOING BLUE COLLAR WORK
>>55472449
I had the chance to get hitched with a Muslim virgin med student from Bangladesh who didn't understand what the female orgasm was and would moan in ecstasy from having her nipples licked She wouldn't let me look at her vagina or finger her.
if I wasn't a bluepilled retard at the time I would have gone for it. Didn't help though that her father was a former alcoholic who found the light of Allah and might have lopped my head off if he found out.
>>55473660
>DONT WEAR RINGS WHILE DOING BLUE COLLAR WORK
Don't wear a ring while doing anything.
>>55467887
>What's going on with this trend? Why are less and less people marrying one another as time passes?
Females are bitches.
>>55467887
>What's going on with this trend? Why are less and less people marrying one another as time passes?
Why don't you lurk moar?
>>55467887
>why is the sky blue?
>why is the snow white?
>>55467887
Because women are getting worse and worse.
