ITT we discuss Gun control
I used to be very sympathetic to this argument, but someone pointed out to me...
If you replaced "The Second Amendment" with "The right to privacy" and "first-grade child" with victim of terrorism, the argument would still make sense. You could justify taking away any right by pointing to a victim.
>>55467429
Will never work in America
You need nigger control first
>>55467429
No.
>>55467429
Firearms are the only thing keeping men equal. Current technological trend lessening the importance of individual rifleman is directly affecting our equality and Freedom™.
SHALL
BE
how can guns be real if our eyes aren't real?
>>55467620
NOT
>>55467664
>HlV7RVZm
>HIV
>>55467649
>>55467635
TOP C.UCK
>>55467429
>Appeal to Emotion vs Appeal to Authority
>>55467620
>>55467664
BE
Unless you are ready to arm yourself and storm your neighbors home to enforce it you need to kill yourself.
>>55467429
>an emotional appeal vs. a right.
Golly gee this is a tough one :^)
>>55467429
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST WE NEED TO BAN ASSAULT KNIVES FIRST
>>55467820
>Common sense
>Gun legislation
pick one
>>55467429
>want to ban guns because sometimes kids die from them
>100% support abortion
Lol liberals
>>55467535
Don't worry, the same people who oppose the right to bear arms also oppose the right to privacy and everything else in the Bill of Rights. They're just more subtle about opposing free speech, prohibiting the free exercise of religion, the right to a speedy trial by impartial jury, and so on.
>>55467429
>One live is more important that the very SECOND sentence that defines your country.
This is how nations die.
>>55467429
>muh appeal to emotions
come on people, its stardate 737645.9283 why do you need a phasor?!
>>55467901
>Kids
>Fetus
pick one
>>55467983
>a planted seed isn't alive
>>55467983
>"a fetus isn't a living being!"
>get charged with murder if you hurt a a pregnant woman and make her miscarry
Lol liberals
>>55467429
>not pictured: all the children saved by proper gun use in defense of one's home
Why is this even a debate? What part of "shall not be infringed" is so hard to understand?
>>55468107
I'm not a liberal mate I'm just saying a fetus is not a life
When did I say you should get charged with murder? You should go to prison but not for murder
>lol conservatives
> no one reads...
>>55467983
>>55468107
>only a person when I want it to be ;^)
>>55467820
How high do you have to be to use such a shitty user theme?
>>55467429
A strong society is stronger with guns than without
If you remove guns now, they won't come back
If you keep them, improve your country, you will be stronger for not having chucked all your guns out
>>55468210
IT'S
>>55468298
>not being there for halloween
>>55468288
>What's science mom?
the post
>>55468286
> ...or studies...
>>55467838
I always wondered if Orwell would go full right wing if he saw America today, he was pretty based.
>>55468376
> ...existing source materials...
>>55467429
Guns protect people from wild rabid niggers
>>55468482
> ...anymore.
>>55468432
Given todays political narrative, anything not gommie is full right wing
>>55468284
They actually do try you with murder though.
>>55467429
what's there to discuss? if you are white and want to surive keep your guns.
>>55467429
Use both hands on the grip to steady the barre with a bit up a push-pull, and lean slightly forward to help mitigate any recoil
>>55467429
ALL OF THEM
>>55468602
Did I say they should?
>>55468348
Scientifically speaking, it has all the chromosomes necessary to be considered a unique human being at conception. There is no point before where you can say there is a human, and any point afterwards is arbitrary.
Don't take your own biases into a thread when you want to discuss "science."
>>55467883
kill urself
>>55467429
Raise your sight picture up to your target, instead of taking aim directly on the target. By aiming low and raising your sight picture up you are keeping the full target visible until you are ready to fire.
SHALL
NOT
BE
INFRINGED
Shall not be infringed
WITH C U C K S
ITS NEVER ENOUGH
DEFEND YOUR RIGHTS
FROM ANTI-WHITES
>>55467429
pic related
>>55467429
What's happening in Europe is why we need the Second Amendment.
Gun Ownership among whites is what keeps the shit skin hordes in check. Trust me in how the world is today the niggers and muzzies would love to be in white neighborhoods fucking shit up but they all know they'd be dead as fuck if they even attempted anything.
>guns are outlawed in the states
>ayy lmao no registry
>>55467429
>ITT we discuss Gun control
I never got this lib argument. If one dead kid is enough to scrap the second amendment, one saved child is enough to keep it.
Now you're into numbers and cost/benefit but nobody wants to go there because the emotional appeal was supposed to be enough.
It's funny how this is supposed to show that the guy on the right is in the right, but I still read it as a pro-gun rights cartoon.
The second amendment is worth more than a 1st grade child's life.
>non-americans against gun control
some of you guys are alright
>>55467429
>this is a right our forefathers placed for us since the creation of our country!
>but muh children!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51clP7JRqv8
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
>>55469086
/thread
But for the sake of facts:
>>55470846
Ok, guess I didn't attach an image.
>>55467429
>muh chilluns
>>55470921
>>55471022
>Although it is extremely unlikely that the fears of governmental tyranny which gave rise to the Second Amendment will ever be a major danger to our nation...
Oh, how wrong you were, John. How wrong you were...
>>55471001
"let the take arms. the remedy is to set them right as to facts, pardon & pacify them."
Let the people rebel, crush them, then pardon them.
>>55467429
>implying kids won't ever die is second ammendment is repealed
>implying over 90% of gun crime isn't committed with illegally possessed guns.
>>55467429
I'm for mandatory background checks (as well as actually following up if a criminal tries to buy a gun) and permits to CC; open carry shall be legal for all citizens except in government buildings or property (including public schools)
Citizens may own explosive devices and crew-served weapons/vehicles, but must be registered and certified.
The only exception to this is that the following are prohibited; armed aircraft, vessels larger than a patrol boat, and nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons.
>>55467820
template pls
I can predict how well a school will perform very well using only demographic data. (Correlations ranging from .8 to .88) I expect the same is true with violent crime rates.
>>55471422
Where can you buy a gun without a background check?
>>55471675
What state are you in?
>>55471675
blackmarket is always good for that kinda thing
which is where a whole lotta guns will be sold if they make it illegal
>>55471675
New Mexico via private sales.
>>55471675
Buy from a private individual, and not a licensed seller. I'm not entirely sure how I feel on that matter, in relation to gun control.
>>55471510
>I can predict how well a school will perform very well using only demographic data.
You could just look at the wealth of the parents.
>>55471924
That isn't good enough. You need to include minority status (excluding Asians) as well, and a few other things.
>>55471422
>armed aircraft
Actually, you know, I quite like shooting from helicopters, I'll redact this to just be "armed fixed-wing aircraft"
>>55472076
How does that work. West Virginia is the whitest state in the US, kids there are pregnant heroin addicts who cannot read.
>>55472211
Yeah, but that's West Virginia.
>>55472211
Because poverty isn't the only factor. I've run the numbers for my own state, and when you leave minority status out, it does not work nearly as well. There are a myriad of factors that go into how well a school is going to perform, and poverty is only one.
>>55468432
By today's liberal standards JFK would be a conservative.
>>55472211
I should also point out that when looking at these kinds of things, the data that you are looking at serves as a proxy for culture. That is why I believe that demographics would work for predicting violent crime.
>>55472262
AZ isnt so bad.
In 1776 when the Constitution was drafted, I could own a 24 gun frigate. That was the intention of the 2nd amendment. It didn't say "guns", it didn't say "rifles", it didn't say "land based infantry hardware", it merely said arms. It said arms because all the technology of war was meant to be available to the common man. Today if I owned a 24 gun frigate and parked it in a port I could STILL do more damage than I ever could with an AR15. Not only did the founding fathers intend for me to have this, the American Government argued against the rest of the world my right to have this when everyone else was immasculating themselves by drafting the Paris Declaration of Maritime Law in 1856.
The US government wanted me to have my ship of the line because it was beneficial to them. They have no right to complain now that they don't need me to keep a modern rifle. The fact that they don't like me having one is all the more reason that I should.
>>55472211
It's not the whitest state in the US, it's the whitest state below the Mason-Dixon line, but the NE states and the NW states are definitely whiter (excluding Injuns in Dakotas and whatnot).
WV does need a healthy dose of eugenics, but I feel safe among WV whites. I don't really feel safe among niggers or spics.
>>55467429
>Think about the children!
That's not an argument faggot.
>>55472551
Is it true that in AZ, pumping a shotgun constitutes as a verbal warning in home-defense?
>>55467429
>SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
Nothing to discuss faggot.
>>55472681
No idea, but who cares, you dont need a verbal warning if they are in your home.
>>55472681
I don't really think it matters. Besides, if I think I'm going to need to use a gun in self defense, you can bet that one will already be chambered.
>>55472551
M8, not even the Spanish wanted it during the 1700's.
>>55472724
Requiring background checks and registration of destructive weaponry ad vehicles isn't infringement.
>>55467429
/thread
>>55472814
>destructive weaponry ad vehicles
just fucking killyourself.
background check faggots need to do some research.
>>55472626
A ship of the line isn't a weapon, the cannons mounted upon it are. It's perfectly constitutional for the government to prohibit certain classes of vessel from the public.
>>55472814
I'm not denying people shouldnt live here, but to visit for backpacking and the like it is very nice. Sadly I have to live here for now due to school.
>>55472551
Wow, scrubland. I'm from Nebraska and even I'm unimpressed
Gun control is good
The second amendment combined with castle doctrines will inevitably create a breed of superthieves impervious to detection and bullets, and this can't be allowed to happen
>>55472681
This makes no sense as racking a shotgun means one of two things.
1. You entered into a hostile situation without a ready to fire weapon and you racked it to load your first shell. That precious second could mean the difference between you living and dying.
2. You racked the shotgun and ejected a perfectly good loaded shell. That precious second of reracking could cost you your life, and you have also just ensured you have less ammo to engage the threat.
>>55472880
>just fucking killyourself.
Build wall
>background check faggots need to do some research.
Like what? That when actually enforced it helps keeps guns out of the hands of legitimate (as in, actually diagnosed) crazies?
>>55472920
It isnt all scrub lands, there are large pine forests that are even considered national forests.
>>55472760
>>55472796
>>55472945
I was under the impression that a verbal warning had to be given before you open fire but I guess not. Thanks for the information lads.
>>55472262
BASED ROCKIES but ya >>55472551 AZ is pretty good too
>Gun control
It doesn't work. If you want it so much, let's trade places: you live in Brazil and I live somewhere else.
>>55470704
kinda shitty satire desu
>>55472891
Yet the entire argument against the Declaration of Paris respecting Maritime law was that the US wanted its mechantmen to be armed in the event that they needed to commission privateers and that outlawing privateering would hurt the US naval power.
>>55473080
The "verbal" warning to the intruder was the door/window that obviously did not belong to their house.
>>55471210
Oh, it's you again. You should know that's not what that means.
>>55473179
>you live in Brazil
The problem in Brazil is the people. If you populated Brazil with people from the UK it would be a society like the UK. If you populated the UK with Brazilians we would have the same problems here as there are in Brazil.
Nobody follows any laws in Brazil. The problems are sociological.
>>55468908
Fuck. I thought I had a really good pic to go with this, but I can't find it. Perhaps someone could help me out?
On the left was a scientist, arguing that any time after fertilization could arbitrarily called a human. On the right was naked women dancing around the fire saying new age mystical libshit.
>>55467429
I think it's about time we have an open, honest, and fair discussion about common sense abortion control. We need these child killing assault doctors out of our American hospitals how many more innocent children must die before we do something about this? We need to push for tougher regulations on high fertility fully automatic tactical uterus's. Honestly who actually needs 300K eggs in one lifetime? How many children are they trying to have? We really need to brainwash the American people into thinking about abortion control differently. See this hangar this is a ghost abortion the government can't track it and has no control over how many children it kills.
>>55467429
I keep having this glitch where when I click on a image it duplicates itself.
Anyone else have this happen?
You know what the best part is? No matter what they say, matter how much they cry and wring their hands, they'll never EVER take our guns.
You see, when it comes down to it, these people are cowards.
So cry some more bitch niggers, because we will always have the right to own and carry our tools of death and destruction.
>>55473746
I have been getting two captcha boxes recently.
Nothing to discuss, it says clearly we have the right to weapons. If you don't like it you can move away.
>>55467883
SMASH DHAT FUCKIN LIKE BUTTON
>>55473502
>let me tell you about your country
>>55467983
>>55468284
>a fetus is not a life
>literally saying a living entity is not alive
At least until some arbitrary point when you want to call it a life, right? The fact that you're so invested in this sociopathic idea of abortion that you're willing to make absolutely absurd rationalizations is telling.
As they say, "whatever helps you sleep at night."
>>55467429
liberal logic is putting you in jail for a crime somebody else committed
>Bobby shoots up a school
>take Willy's guns away
>>55474210
People in Brazil do not follow the law the way people do in the Anglosphere. We have a long history of individual rights, that is not true in most countries.
>>55473346
Last time I check, privateers died out and the US navy is perfectly capable of holding its own.
I know this is a meme, but it's 2015. Just because of X in 1776, does not imply Y in 20xx.
>>55473080
Do you even castle doctrine, bro? If someone breaks into your house your shoot to kill. No warning and no second guesses.
>>55473080
You need to be fear of death or great bodily harm, and the threat must be imminent. In castle doctrine states, this is automatically assumed if somebody A) Forcefully and B) Unlawfully enters your house.
>>55475655
>there are states in this, the current year, that don't have castle doctrine
>>55467429
Its pretty simple really. Guns are easy to get, ammo is cheap and education and equality non present. Add a dose of institutionalised racism and you got yourself 25000 dead per year. As most gunfaggots will yell at you that they are mostly "gang related", noone cares about blacks on blacks. People are screaming about legal guns used in the occasional white male spree shooting.
At the end of the day, the NRA and weapons lobbies are too powerful to ever allow change.
>muh 2nd amendment
No, your country simply has you hooked on buying and buying guns. Do what you gotta do, but dont EVER pretend that your guns are "for da tyranic gubment", because you watched when the patriot act passed. You watched along when cops murder 400 unarmed civilians a year. You didnt act, when your goverment invaded Iraq illegally for WMDs and even Bush's election was rigged.
You faggots simply have such feelings of inadequacy, that your guns give you a sense of social relativism, to ignore to the fact that you are simply less than plebs. You are fucking nothing and your perceived power from your firearms give you mental stability.
>>55472040
Look it up faggot. You've already given people a means to find out you were asking online about an UNLICENSED GUN.
>>55476555
I'm not buying any illegal guns. I knew it was illegal here without an ffl I was asking about other states
>>55476546
>Germoney jr preaching about evil gun laws
Fucking kukc.
>>55477461
Hit too close to home?
>>55477539
I ain't even mad, cuz this is shit b8.
>>55467883
Twitter nigger, fuck off subhuman.
>>55467983
>vegan
>pro-choice
Pick one. And I know a lot of liberals that are both and I can't understand their though process.
SHALL
>>55477814
The truth is hard to accept, but youll wake up someday. Maybe when youre allowed to buy beer in a few years.
>>55476546
you'll understand when your brown immigrants form gangs and start breaking into your homes.
pathetic kuck
>>55478540
Ive been in alot of fights with Turks. Im not a faggot though, so I know how defend myself with my fists.
>>55478629
>>55478465
NOT
>>55478932
>>55467429
Some serious shilling going on.
This is like the 34th thread on gun control in the space of an hour.
Sort it out you fat fucks and contain it to one thread.
Cheers. Faggot circumcised kike cock heads.
>>55467429
Watching the immigrant crisis in Europe, it seems to me that no matter how civilized you believe your country is, circumstances may change drastically at any moment. When that time comes, you'd wish you hadn't given away your guns.
Got interviewed by my schools newspaper senior year because I was a shy kid who was known to enjoy shooting guns with some of tbe more extroverted fellows in the class. Anyways newspaper had won awards for how "progressive" and "new age" it was
Anyways she came over and asked me what I thought about England banning everything larger than a .22, I said I didn't think that was a good law. I then said I think if we educated more people about guns and didn't make everyone fear them as killing machines we could make more logical laws working to prevent massacres and what not.
She got mad, yelled "I guess WE just disagree" then and walked off
My quote wasn't in the paper all it said was "gun rights supporters argue we have second amendment rights"
God I hate liberals
>>55480318
Disclosure about grammar: I am on my phone and am tipsy, be gentle
>>55467429
>please take away guns because I am an autistic fuck who doesn't know what personal responsibility is.
I am voting for removing pencils, scissors, vehicles of every kind and all drinks except water. They hurt too many people.
>>55480451
Do you have ANY IDEA how many people die to water every day?!
>>55481986
ban assault boats
>>55471422
>being this scared of insurgency
You're just a pussy. You know most ships outfitted during the war for independence were privately owned shipped out fitted with guns.
>>55481986
BAN ASSAULT KIDDIE POOLS
