>More than 30,000 cannabis smokers could die every year, doctors warn today.
>The drug can cause cancer, lung disease and abnormalities associated with serious mental illness.
>Users are up to six times more likely to develop schizophrenia.
>The British Lung Foundation says smoking three joints a day can cause the same damage to the airways as a pack of 20 cigarettes.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-179264/Cannabis-kills-30-000-year.html
Dailymail
>>55465109
>Taking the Dailymail as a valuable source of information
I'm not English and even I know that newspaper is utter trash m8
Only liberal losers smoke weed. Liberals live in overcrowded cities with shit air quality, explaining the increased cancer rates
Schizophrenia is the endgame of leftism.
well, you're taking a combusted material into your lungs. burning anything will produce carcinogenic compounds.
good thing marijuana doesn't necessarily have to be smoked.
>>55465109
>daily mail
>British studies in a prohibition country
>implying you only have to smoke it
I'm just going to leave because you watch yet again this thread will have 500 replies with the uninformed prohibitionist and the dumbed out stoners who can't learn shit about the drug
>>55465109
The daily mail is an anti drugs tabloid.
This article belongs in le trash and in regards to our government drug advisers, they can also go in le trash after what they did regarding mephedrone.
MASSIVE POT SMOKER DIAGNOSED WITH SCHIZOPHRENIA HERE
>>55465489
>FORMER POT SMOKER*
>this is what stoners ACTUALLY BELIEVE
So many mad degenerate drug users replying to this thread. kek
>>55465109
>smoking when you could eat or vape it
waste anyway
>dailymail
carry on the b8
>>55465523
I'M WATCHING YOU
Yeah, this is bullshit.
>BUT THE NEWS SAID ITS A STUDY DONE BY DOCTORS
Yeah, don't believe shit. Also, who fucking cares what I do to my body. Doctors are always saying that fucking word, "could" as if its the most powerful word in the history of the universe. I seriously hate that fucking word. That word is the reason society is so shitty and fucked up.
>>55465109
What about vaporizers anon baka desu sempai?
>>55465565
it is true tho
no one died from THC. it has a ceiling affect.
also, in the trash it goes because of daily mail
>>55465565
Cite one single overdose from pot?
the uk put tobacco in joints. That is probably in the fine print somewhere. Weed should be legal for medicinal use. But it shouldn't be covered by nhs
I really love how this thread has drawn out the Redditors.
>>55465625
>MY BODY, MY RULES
>F-FUCKING DOCTORS STUDIES DON'T MEAN SHIT!!! FUCK THE WORD "MAYBE", FUCK HYPOTHESIS!
>>55465625
Individualism is why the world is messed up
Dumping C0nc0rdance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkNIRZXraY4
>The active ingredients in Cannabis and their effects
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNxhuxV7FV4
This is the relevant one. TL;DR: it's too early to say for certain but if you're smoking cannabis you're putting yourself at risk. It's unknown how bad the carcinogenic effects are compared to cigarettes, as nicotine widens the blood vessels and allows cancer to spread faster, but a chemical analysis of tobacco and cannabis smoke reveals that the pure latter is far more carcinogenic than the pure former.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk50Szx_des
>Effect of cannabis on the heart. Effects are not as drastic as if smoked, but still exist. This is relevant no matter the method of consumption.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEpfS780kQ8
>Effects of Cannabis on the mind
Weed is a disgusting habit and in my judgement represents a sufficient risk to be avoided entirely.
>>55465109
Without having read the article, I'm sure the research has been misrepresented. The thing that kills you from smoking weed is the actual smoking of the compound, there are ways to work around this should one wish to. Also, you don't develop schizophrenia out of nowhere from smoking pot. Any serious researcher knows that causation isn't correlation: More schizos and people predisposed to schizophrenia smoke compared to the normal population. Just as they also smoke way more nicotine and drink more than the avg population.
>>55465760
derp derp, i dont even smoke
obviously inhaling conbustible plant material in your lungs isnt healthy but there are other administration methods
Don't tell her
cool but just a reminder that its still no argument for delegalization.
>>55465865
yea lets ban everything and place bubble wrap around everything because someone might get a boo boo
>>55465109
>Dailyfail
May as well cite the Onion
>>55465740
No one OD's on cigarettes either, doesn't mean it can't kill you in the long run.
>>55465290
I am and I second this
>>55466064
I didn't say it should be banned. I'm saying the people who like to mindlessly shout "Weed is harmless" are deluding themselves
>not doing superior MD
LOL
>>55465109
>Coasta Rica
>dailymail.co.uk
Fuck off DEA your source is the British Onion
>Posting news from 2003, reposted to Dailymail
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2003/may/02/drugsandalcohol.science
With weed lowering heart rate and cocaine increasing it does doing both simultaneously over long term fuck you up more or less?
Just looking for info not debate
>>55465740
There was a dude about 6 months ago that extracted the THC and put it in pill form. That fucker ate everything all in one go and OD'd. But... you have to be straight up retarded to have that happen.
>>55465109
You make outlandish claims and use daily mail as your proof? Do you have a mental disability?
>>55465312
>Schizophrenia is the endgame of leftism.
you've given me a lot to think about...
>>55465109
>More than 30,000 cannabis smokers could die every year
Yah.... smoking herb doesn't make us immortal. We all eventually die, kiddo. Now if any of those deaths are a direct result of smoking le herb, paint me surprised.
>The drug can cause cancer
So can sunlight. Actual studies have concluded beyond any rational doubt that processed meats are more carcinogenic than le herb though..... so there is that.
>Users are up to six times more likely to develop schizophrenia.
Just not true at all. I would ponder though if schizophrenic people are six times more drawn to le herb for its calming and soothing effects.
>The British Lung Foundation says smoking three joints a day can cause the same damage to the airways as a pack of 20 cigarettes.
Their average size joint for that study is 1 gram, same as an average size cigarette. The average daily smoker who smokes joints rolls joints that are about 1/3rd of a gram, but most of us are using vapes.
>>55466471
>Yah....
DUDE WEED LMAO
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>>55465312
You were never cool enough to smoke weed. Hahahahahahahaha
>>55466359
Figured it might even it out but that's probably a beyond stupid assumption
Just looking for good news I guess
It's, like, just a plant dude.
>>55466154
it's important to point out what you mean by weed and which method and how often.
nothings harmless. the people that think its some aids cure are dumb. we both agree
>>55465109
I always smoke out of a bong. And schizophrenia isn't too bad, better company then most of you faggots.
>>55465312
nice generalisation idiot
>/pol/ is supposedly anti-degenerate
>defends weed
you're all basically right wing sjws
smdh tbqh
>>55466693
>Australia
>>55466693
banning something because you don't like it is the nature behind SJW
its the anti thesis to being a SJW
>>55466693
It's always some anti-marijuana shill starting these threads, nice try though.
>>55466693
>Implying weed is degenerate.
I suppose you want me to stop getting drunk on Sunday morning too.
>>55465760
Never been on reddit in my life.
Literally, I can do what I want with my body. I don't drink and I don't smoke cigarettes. I smoke weed and it pisses people off for literally no reason other than "BUT WEED IS BAD".
And sitting at a computer bitching about peoples' personal lives are bad too, so fuck off.
>>55465928
People live the most unhealthy lives ever and never think twice until someone brings up weed. My healthstyle is probably healthier than 90% of the people on this board. Who cares if I smoke a bowl a once in a while. Its just the stupid Liberals and Hollywood memes that make weed out to be something its not.
>>55466649
underrated post
>>55466804
>>55466818
>>55466855
>it's not degenerate if I'm doing it it
how are you not sjws again?
>it's not harrassment if I'm doing it
>it's not racist if I'm doing it
>it's not sexist if I'm doing it
hmm sounds familiar...
There isn't a day, nor an hour that I don't wish I was blitzed as fuck, stoned out of my mind.
Fuck being sober.
>three joints a day
weed is not like cigs, smoking weed every day only makes it boring, save it for the weekend
marijuana is degenerate regardless of its health effects
>>55466979
>Australia
>>55465109
>2015
>not vaping your bud
Joints and Cigarettes are so 1990's.
>>55466979
>Australia
>>55467010
>shitlord
-you in another life
>>55465109
thats because of all the chemicals on the illegal stuff
>>55465109
>no date on article
>no sources in article
>comment section closed
hmm....
>>55466471
Let's debunk some meme statements about the herbal jew.
>muh no addiction
Bullshit, I've been smoking for about 5 years, can't really stop. Managed to cut it down some but still have not quit.
>weed does not cause schizophrenia
I've irreversebly damaged my psyche. I'm way more paranoid and i tend to think other people want to harm me, ergo i started isolating myself even from my friends and family. This behaviour was also observed in rats when administered daily doses of cannabis.
>muh creativity
While weed does open your mind a bit and lets you explore more obscure things more easily, it completely cuts all motivation to actually channel it into something.
>muh socialising
Bullshit, weed makes you completely retarded socialwise, the things that occur naturally in you subconscious(like detecting body language) completely shuts down while high. Couple this with mild confusion amd tou turn into a paranoid blabbering idiot.
>last year + 1
>still smoking the herbal jew
>>55465405
They aren't arguing for it to be allowed to be purchased in pill form or anything like that. They want to 420 blaze it.
>>55465740
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2548669/Devout-Christian-mother-three-31-woman-Britain-DIE-cannabis-poisoning-smoking-joint-bed.html
>>55466979
I don't smoke weed. You can't comprehend how I can support the freedom of others.
I don't like tabacco. I think it's entirely worthless but I wouldn't ban it. Stop running other peoples lives because you don't personally like "thing".
>>55466922
People that eat unhealthy diets and never exercise turn around and deride pot smokers. I know highly productive weed smokers. It's no different than grabbing a couple beers after work.
>>55467191
This
All drugs should be legalized with no restrictions whatsoever
>>55467191
I don't smoke weed either, but until I see some firm evidence that it's worse for you than tobacco products or alcohol I don't believe it should be banned.
>>55465109
>Dailymail
>Implying living in Costa Rica isn't twice as dangerous as smoking all the weed in the world
>>55467191
why don't you go into an eu migration thread and tell people off for being against the muslim community's freedom to take over germany etc then?
oh that's right, it's because your arguments only suit you when you agree with the topic, sjw.
>>55467264
It causes schizophrenia tho
>>55466064
>logical fallacy
>>55467295
This is about personal freedums you cunt
>>55467324
no it doesn't gypsy fuck
>>55467383
But it do
weed is an erb, not an narcotic...and I don't even smoke it.
>>55467383
and muslims have a personal right and freedom to start a new life in germany
surely you agree with this, and are not just being intellectually dishonest
/pol/ is rife with stoners nowadays, posting anything that is anti-weed is guaranteed 200 butthurt replies
>>55467295
you are so fucking stupid
you don't have the freedom to destroy others freedoms. it's entirely counter to the point of the pursuit of happiness when you take others pursuits of happiness from them so your cute little reversal isn't going to work mr. aussie.
>>55467380
the logical fallacy here is that just because something isn't absolutely harmless that it should be banned
might as well ban cake.
>>55465109
DUDE WEED LMAO!
But in all serious take the red pill and smoke weed.
Good Goy! Marijuana is harmless! It's the evil antisemites who made it illegal...Bernie 2016!
Weed and an engineering degree doesn't mix well unless after you are done with your work. Learned that the hard way.
>>55465312
you cant catch/develop schizophrenia, dumb amerishit.
its in your genes.
>>55467512
how are muslim migrants taking over anyone's freedoms though? the mere act of migrating doesn't mean they will enslave the continent does it? I mean that sounds like a slippery slope fallacy to me, and I know how you weed sjws hate slippery slope when it comes to arguing against weed.
>>55467478
they don't have a right to destroy culture. if the country accepts them that is their call but if the refugees want to take over a culture already existing instead of coexisting then they do not have that right. fuck off
>>55467117
You are not physically dependent like you would be on heroin. People can develop mental addiction to pretty much anything, all about the dopaminergic pathways. You are not smoking weed because of dependency, but because your brain associates it with reward. Also, weed does not create mental disorders that require a biological basis(such as schizophrenia), it triggers and exacerbates it.
>doing any kind of drug
Have fun with your mental illnesses fags.
>>55465109
>I can't handle all this Schadenfreude
Ha ha.
>>55467565
>conservatives laugh at liberals for banning guns thinking it will stop people from owning guns
>conservatives unironically believe banning drugs means it'll change the drug abuse rates
>>55467630
>the mere act of migrating doesn't mean they will enslave the continent does it?
nope, it doesn't that is their choice. it only becomes an issue if they are trying to subvert their culture. if i traveled to germany, i would be ashamed of myself if i enforced my culture on them.
>>55467639
they won't destroy european culture though, they will simply replace it as it fades away naturally due to a shift in demographics. however that can't be blamed on muslims for they are not taking direct action to ensure this, therefore there is no problem with them and thus nothing wrong with mass migration.
>>55467618
only thing that can happen is weed can bring out the illnesses already present. it doesn't cause it. huge difference
This is from the Daily mail in 2003.
What shit tier bait..
Plus. Most carcinogens that come from smoking marijuana are from the papers used ( if smoking a joint )
>>55467924
vaporizing or making cookies or tinctures correct this issue
>>55465109
If schizophrenia is 6x more likely to occur, why do we not see ANY increase in schizophrenic case rates?
Oh right. It's the daily mail.
>>55467719
Who could be behind this post
>>55465109
Ever heard of the saying
>"too much of anything is bad for you"
The only stoners i respect are the ones that can control their use and are able to function in society like a regular and not some hippie "weed is natural man, smoke weed everyday" faggot
Smoke weed everyday = expect mental problems (like anxiety issues, poor diets & sleep patterns)
Btw i ain't even against weed, i am actually pro legalization for medicinal marijuana, its just i used to hang around a bunch of everyday weed smoking hippies, this was at least 6-7 years ago, most of that crowed don't even work still even in their late 20s to young 30s and i know 2 of them have been in and out of a mental hospital
and i remember when i stopped smoking, my anxiety was really bad for months after stopping
>>55467924
I never click daily mail links. Thanks for taking one for the team though, bro.
>>55467966
Yeah exactly, even smoking out of a pipe isn't that bad
>>55467992
>why do we not see ANY increase in schizophrenic case rates?
Because there's no control group you idiot.
>>55465109
>three joints a day
Jesus, nobody smokes that much. That's drug *abuse* not recreational use.
You can take too much paracetamol or even water and fuck your shit up just as easily.
>>55468185
I would imagine non-users are the control group.
>>55465109
GUISE
GUISE
I SMOKD 2 WHOLE MARIWANAS AND GOT ARTHRITIS AND NOW MY EYELID ARE FALLING OF
WAT DO
>>55468233
>nobody smokes that much
how naive are you?
>>55467551
>more logical fallacies
you faggots kept spreading lies about cannabis as if it were the second coming of jesus
you are people who can not be trusted, kill yourself already
>>55465109
>3 joints a day the same damage as 20 cigerettes which have some of the worst poisons known to man
OH BOY
>>55468375
I mean no normal consumer of cannabis. Of course people do, but you know what I mean. That is not a regular dose.
>>55465109
>Inhaling unfiltered particulates every day for years could cause cancer
You don't fucking say!
>But they told me pot cured cancer!
>>55467077
Well, apparently it IS possible to make potheads even more loathsome.
>>55467719
>Muh prohibition argument!
Better legalize rape, murder and kidnapping then, since we still have them.
>>55468939
>rape, murder and kidnapping
the same as
>smoking a plant
If you think this is a valid dichotomy you are literally retarded.
I don't smoke, but if you condemn weed and drink you are an idiot
>>55465109
>smoking weed
Absolute plebs
Eat weed brownies
If you have quality weed you can get high of one or two hits, any more and its just wasted.
>>55468939
congratulations on being a retard
>>55468021
>The only stoners i respect
Why is any use of recreational drugs worthy of respect?
>>55468134
>delusion
>>55468233
Do you live under Ayers Rock?
>>55469070
Well I'm just stealing things, it's not like I'm killing people am I right?
Eat shit, pothead.
>>55469237
Excellent argument.
>>55465109
>The British Lung Foundation says...
Almost got me.
>>55469312
your argument was to literally compare rape to getting intoxicated in ones own home
theres a reason prohibition of alcohol didn't work
fuck off trollimus maximus
>dailymail
>agreeing with obvious bullshit to be edgy
>>>/pol/
>>55466359
>>55466580
Weed does jackshit, cocaine on the other hand is a hell of a drug.
>>55469407
No it wasn't. That's a red herring. Stop being a faggot. It wasn't even an argument. It was simply an observation that you morons are using logical fallacies as arguments. The prohibition argument is literally a logical fallacy. And it's a fucking stupid one because it can be slapped down within seconds by pointing out what I just did.
>>55465109
Thank goodness that real scientists, doctors and researchers have come up with different conclusions about cannabis, I am legally allowed to grow it.
ALSO
>smokers
No fucking shit, smoking anything is bad for you.
>>55469312
Confirmed retard.
If you can't understand the difference between a victimless crime and a crime with a victim you're arguing based on feels which is SJW tier reasoning.
>>55469312
Hahahahahaha doesn't it suck that you were never cool enough to smoke pot
>>55465109
I have nothing against weed. Everyone I know who smokes it is a loser who blames everything but weed and themselves for their shit life.
All drugs should be legal under capitalism though.
>>55466460
We might be on to something..
>>55469581
there is good evidence that show prohibition has a negative net result. preventing people from getting stoned isn't the same as preventing rape. of course people still rape, but jail isn't always about being a deterrent. sometimes it is in place to prevent these ones from causing more social harm.
rape is about non consent but smoking weed is consensual.
you are pumping billions of dollars to prevent something that is entirely frivilous to prevent. so not, its not a red herring. you really are just comparing rape to smoking weed in the end
>>55465109
>implying any research on cannabis is reliable.
Every fucking month there's a new study that everyone believes will finally prove marijuana to either be very good or very bad. And every time the study is proven to be unreliable. Either decriminalize it then research it on a massive scale or just shut up. At this point people's gut feelings towards the drug is more accurate than any research
About everything we eat is cancerous
- All non organic fruits and vegetables are filled with cancerous pesticide
- A lot of fruits especialy corn are GMO crap that give cancer to rats (they still cant prove it for humans because no serious studies have been made and since they always change the GMO everyday, it's impossible to keep up with the market, but it's probably the same for us)
- Any rice (organic or normal) is filled with high levels of arsenic
- All the non organic meat is filled with oestrogens and cancerous additives, cattle are fed with cancerous seed, etc
- All the packaged, processed food is filled with conservation agents which are mostly cancerous
- White sugar is one of the main sources of cancer, it's litteraly everywhere
- Urban water contains high amounts of fluoride and some % of oestrogens
Unless you only eat organic food and High quality water from a valid source you are doomed to get cancer or major health problems.
So yeah I am going to enjoy my little spliff if you don't mind.
>>55469666
There is no such thing as a victimless crime. It's hilarious you call someone else retarded while not understanding that. The victim in a mala prohibita crime is the species. Things like recreational drug use and prostitution create a plethora of social ills. If they didn't, nobody would ever legislate against them. Point out one place on Earth that has any substance any time in any frequency rights/allowance in the law and I'll show you a dysfunctional shithole. NOBODY allows this because every society realizes it's a fucking mess when you allow it.
>>55469740
I'm not impressed by retarded 13 year old arguments. Did you suck all your friends' dicks too because you were told the cool kids did it?
>>55469787
>there is good evidence that show prohibition has a negative net result.
Yeah, no there isn't. There's a LOT of really terrible, highly biased data from drug legalization groups that there is. Literally everything anti-prohibition stems from them. Prohibition is LITERALLY the best drug policy. A significant percentage of violent crimes occur in tandem with drug usage, including alcohol. Recreational drugs have NEVER reduced crime. Only the opposite is true. Any counterargument to this is literally nothing but lies.
>you are pumping billions of dollars to prevent something that is entirely frivilous to prevent. so not, its not a red herring. you really are just comparing rape to smoking weed in the end
I really don't care that you're mad people see you for the garbage you are for smoking weed and won't let it get across the board legalization. You're a sickening pleb and you deserve death, not free pot.
>>55465109
Also just 30,000? It's the most consumes drug on the planet its death toll on a proportional scale is nowhere near as bad as the majority of other drugs.
>>55465109
Wait, people still SMOKE cannabis? People my age use vaporizers and edibles now. Smoking is bad period, no cannabis.
>>55470061
Nations that have legalized drugs or decriminalized and made it easier for the addicted to seek help has significantly reduced drug addiction in these nations.
Treating drug issue as a criminal issue is stupid. It's at the end of the day a medical issue and should be dealt with by medical professionals and not police.
Stigmatization of addicts simply makes them more prone to long term addiction
http://youtu.be/ao8L-0nSYzg
>>55470061
i don't smoke weed btw, so your shame tactics that society sees me as scum isn't going to work.
>>55470061
yeah whatever bud stay mad that high school sucked for you lmao
>>55470061
>There is no such thing as a victimless crime
You're absolutely 100% correct, no law has ever been passed that had no victim.
>The victim in a mala prohibita crime is the species.
Can you conclusively prove this? That the species as a whole is affected by someone lighting up a joint?
>If they didn't, nobody would ever legislate against them.
I'm done responding, you clearly have some mental deficiencies.
>>55467150
Why do you hate liberty?
>>55467150
You realize you can create baked goods to get baked with yeah?
>>55465686
Didn't you read anything? Cannabis smoke is known to cause physical problems. The vast, vast amount of people who use weed smoke it so legalisation would open the door to an increase in lung problems after years of aggressive pushing of even stricter smoking laws.
>>55470397
skydiving is risky behavior but i wouldn't ban it.
>>55469984
Have some fucking self respect. Weed is for niggers.
no shit smoking anything is bad for you. It's not limited to weed. Common sense says to avoid smoke from fire and here people are inhaling it into their lungs deliberately.
>>55470135
>Smoking is bad period,
Exactly, this is some cherrypicked bullshit "study".
>>55470104
Alcohol only kills 88,000 per year in America. And that 30,000 number appears to apply to the UK, which has a much lower population than America.
>>55470236
Like I said. Find me a nation that has across the board drug legalization. If prohibition is so fucking terrible, surely ONE civilized nation would have figured this out and just let everything be legal all the time. I would think even a fucking drug addict like pothead scum would be able to see within a half a second how fucking stupid an idea this would be.
>>55470262
>don't shame me
People who say this are always human garbage. You deserve shame.
>>55470339
>Can you conclusively prove this?
>being literally retarded
It's the entire reason for mala prohibita laws, dumbass. Nobody is sitting in congress going "I don't want these kids to have fun! Illegalize drugs!" Jesus, druggies are the most delusional of all plebs and that's saying a lot.
>I'm done responding, you clearly have some mental deficiencies.
Good, because I'm tired of hearing your stupidity and ignorance.
>>55470299
So many mad fucking potheads. I don't care.
>>55470345
Because stupid people can't handle freedom.
Who the fuck smokes joints anymore?
>>55467117
ur a puss. whats with all these fags claiming theyre addicted to weed?? holy fuck even rappers are claiming this retarded shit..ITS MENTAL NOT PHYSICAL. everyone who keeps saying otherwise has lost respect. your weak minded if you let weed take you over. its not addictive. you just stop one day after you decide you dont need it anymore. theres nothing to it. just stop. thats it. then go do all the other things you were doing in life sober. and if you need help doing that then you were retarded all along and there was never any hope for you.
Im a 3 year smoker and I can manage to quit on the fucking dime if i wanted to because ive done so. Tolerance breaks are a wonderful thing op. take 4-5 months off and youll feel better. then start smoking again because your tolerance will have gone down!
My last day smoking before my t break i smoked more then ever in my life in one sitting with my friends. and i still managed to quit.
dont be a bitch op. man up. if you dont like it dont do it. its literally that fucking simple.
>>55470534
>I-I Don't care
You literally are a failure at life if you couldn't even become semi popular in high school
>>55470617
blunts only niggeh
>>55470397
>Cannabis smoke is known to cause physical problems. The vast, vast amount of people who use weed smoke it so legalisation would open the door to an increase in lung problems
But smoking is already allowed. If lung cancer is your issue then you should also ban tobacco to be consistent.
Also there's the fact that you can extract the THC into edible form, eliminating all lung cancer worries. If you had to apply the one sided "what about lungs" argument, you couldn't ban it outright and be consistent. It'd just be another emotional appeal to your hurt feelings.
DUDE
>Dailymail
>>55470640
>You literally are a failure at life if you couldn't even become semi popular in high school
Do you seriously think this is an argumentative technique? I mean I'm sure education has slipped terribly since I was in middle school, but we were taught basic poor propaganda techniques. Also, my mother was terrible and she still had the sense to give me the "Would you jump off a bridge if your friends did" speech. Then, millennials wouldn't be shit if they had decent parents, so I understand why you turned into human garbage.
>>55466425
Citation needed
>>55470534
>surely ONE civilized nation would have figured this out and just let everything be legal all the time.
its because of the emotional appeal of people that we can't have freedom
>deserve shame
i don't smoke you titanic moron. and i didn't say "don't shame me" there is a difference between saying "i don't smoke weed so you can't put shame on me for smoking weed" and "don't put shame on me" "shame shouldn't exist".
fuck off and learn how to read
yeah everything causes cancer, only difference is when you're dying of cancer from being a faggot I'll have been smoking weed most of my life
>>55470828
don't worry breh i'm only shitposting :^)
>>55470345
I hate degenerate stoners who argue for something to be legalized for disingenuous reasons. Just admit you want to smoke weed erryday instead of going "b-but this miracle drug literally cures cancer and AIDS!"
>>55470386
No shit shirley
>>55470386
>>55465312
That may be the most uncool thing I've read all day.
This anon clearly doesn't party.
>>55466529
Hahahahahahahaha!
Smoking weed is cool now you nignog??
Fucking degenerate.
>>55465109
should legalize heroin desu
>>55470872
>its because of the emotional appeal of people that we can't have freedom
Surely this is the reason. It's totally not because unrestrained freedom on a planet of more than 7 billion people is fucking stupid. It must be that old folks don't want you to have any fun because it makes them made and [insert other projection bullshit].
You use the word shame like tumblr uses "microaggressions". The fact you used the word at all makes you guilty. You're garbage. Deal with it, pothead.
>>55470944
That's apparent to everyone already.
>>55465489
DONT THINK OF SPIDERS FUCKER.
DONT THINK OF SPIDERS ALL OVER YOUR FACE!
>>55471032
Let me guess, you're over 25. Literally every high school - college aged kid smokes weed now
>>55467618
>Schizophrenia has a strong hereditary component. Individuals with a first-degree relative (parent or sibling) who has schizophrenia have a 10 percent chance of developing the disorder, as opposed to the one percent chance of the general population. But schizophrenia is only influenced by genetics, not determined by it.
Google told me.
>>55470627
It is addicting, but addicting in a "waaah, I don't want to be sober" kind of way, not "Imma go rob niggas so I can buy another hit of sweet chiba" kind of way.
>>55471109
Yeah, and you're all retards too. Even the one thing you do all day - technology - none of you are any good at. Did we just find the reason that millennials are such shit? Maybe.
They should have known all along marijuana smoke is a carcinogen. That shit is so bad for you. It kills 150,000 people a year.
>>55465109
has the study been peer reviewed and replicated?
>>55471109
>college aged kids as a group are cool and not degenerates
>>55471076
>pothead
i don't smoke. i'm not going to have a discussion with someone that can't read.
>>55471164
Jesus bud you having a mid life crisis or something? Like lmao calm down pussy, smoke a blunt
>>55471245
Henrik Lundqvist fuckin sucks penisdick
>>55470534
Most people i know equate pot to heroin or other more hardcore drugs. Smoking cannabis will always be very unhealthy because its still inhaling smoke, and its psychological effects can be very damning too for some people. I'm not claiming its a miracle drug, I'm just tired of the hysteria surrounding this drug. The hysteria itself leads to people believing its harmless as part of the anti-culture towards that conservative thought.
>>55471227
It's not a study, its doctors reading the conclusions from studies, stoner scum.
>>55471348
>Most people i know equate pot to heroin
> I'm just tired of the hysteria surrounding this drug
where the fuck do you live? in a nursing home? in case you haven't noticed weed use is completely socially acceptable in the US and is the focus of a lot of music/movies/literature
>>55471298
>saying the best goalie in the NHL sucks penisdick
>>55471549
>Lundpoop
>Better than Jesus Price
Top laugh Achmed
smoking weed is for edgy teens and losers
if you associate with it, you are a faggot
(this also includes vaping niggers and their robot dick)
>>55465109
THEY TRIED SO HARD
AND GOT SO FAR
IN THE END
THEY COULDN'T STAMP THE PLANT
>>55471630
Clockboy please go if you think Price is better than glorious Lundqvist
>>55467618
>genetics controls literally every aspect of our being
>this includes must include the brain
>the brain controls thoughts
>the thoughts that that control decision making
>such as the decision to smoke pot
Clearly the genes to decide to smoke pot combine with the genes for schizophrenia to form liberals, you are retarded.
>>55471269
You're still a drug addict. You're using pot. You're a pothead.
>>55471298
>He watches spectator sports also
Why am I not surprised?
>>55471348
>I'm just tired of the hysteria surrounding this drug.
There is hysteria surrounding everything becaues people are idiots. But there has NEVER been one positive to recreational drugs except that drug users like it. That's nowhere near a good enough argument to outweigh the MASSIVE amount of social ills recreational drugs cause to society, to families and to individuals.
>The hysteria itself leads to people believing its harmless as part of the anti-culture towards that conservative thought.
No. That was always there because potheads and other druggies are just retards in general.
>>55471919
And youre still on 4chan faggot so don't act holier than thou
>>55465109
They'll just deny it and call you an alchoholic drunk driving wife beater
>Bob Marley died of lung cancer
>>55471385
do a long term study with a large sample size and get back to me
>>55471537
Small town USA. In Montana as well. I have no idea why people romanticize living like this. If you have a disagreement with people over a very controversial topic, about half the town will turn on you. There's still people around here who smoke pot a lot (Pacific Northwest obviously), but they're pretty much just borderline hippies or plain lazy people who think pot is harmless. A lot of them trip on hallucinogens, but those are the "smart" ones who know that drugs are bad but just don't really care.
Around here people usually have to much pride to change their opinions on pot, we've had votes on medical marijuana in past and such. It passed but didn't last long. I have a feeling that will change in future however.
>>55465109
Daily reminder that Seth Rogen is a cluckold.
>>55465109
>>More than 30,000 cannabis smokers could die every year, doctors warn today.
but they haven't
so what gives?
>>55465740
Bob Marley died of lung cancer
>inhaling burning plant matter isn't good for you
>>55471997
>Bob Marley died of lung cancer
The cancer in his lungs spread from his toe, you disingenuous bastard.
>>55471989
But I am holier than thou. You're shit.
>>55467254
I agree.
>>55472143
No it didn't
>>55472156
You weren't even popular in high school though. Top kek
>>55472219
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Marley#Illness_and_death
>In July 1977, Marley was found to have a type of malignant melanoma under the nail of a toe... the spread of melanoma to his lungs and brain caused his death.
What about vaporizing it?
>>55472265
totally harmless
>>55465109
>>The British Lung Foundation says smoking three joints a day can cause the same damage to the airways as a pack of 20 cigarettes.
BREAKING NEWS EVERYBODY!
>>55472265
fine senpai
also that article looks about 23 yrs old
>>55465109
Breathing anything thats 'SMOKE' is carcinogenic.
consuming anything that is burnt is cancerous.
It's FUCKING cancerous to eat bacon ffs.
Just vape that shit.
Problem solved. This is a weak argument on the british side.
I can understand the weed being criminalized because it's effect on the brain, but this is just stupid.
>>55472314
>3 joints a day
holy fuck these guys are retarded
how big are the joints? how much weed is it actually?
what kind of paper are you using?
its like the retarded 15 year olds "I can smoke 20 joints a day" while they toke the weakest mids shit they bought for 10 dollars
>>55465109
>BETTER BAN CIGARETTES THEN
This is a retarded article.
>>55472349
>vaping bacon
go back to reddit you fucking mongoloid
How do people handle eating cannabis? I ate a cookie once and thought I was going to die for 5 hours in the fetal position.
>>55471919
Most of ills pot inflicts on society are created by its underground status although it's health effects can also be to blame. If schools attemtpetd at setting kids aside and explain to them in a manner they can understand how it can lead to consequences in their life if they are not careful, it wouldnt be nearly as much of a problem. Recreational drug use in itself can be considered unhealthy behavior which is detrimental to a person's life. (Although it depends on person).Sometimes it is justifiable however, especially to experiment with it when one is young.
>>55465109
Deaths by smoking cannabis is not because of the cannabis, it is because of the carginogenic compounds when you combust the cannabis. You can vape and use edibles to gain the same effect and thus eliminating the negative effects on your lungs.
There are no known deaths directly linked to cannabis, yet alcohol is directly (and indirectly) responsible for many deaths each year.
Regarding the issue about schizophrenia, that is only if you're predisposed to schizophrenia, it unlocks it faster. You can also get into psychotic episodes after very prolonged use, but it depends on the person. Alcohol is also known to unlock mental ilnesses like schizophrenia and psychosis.
Seriously 3 joints? I smoke that but with like 5+ other people on a single joint.
>>55465109
smoking 3 rolled up tubes of something that comes straight from a plant = 20 tubes of a plant with added tar and 3000 carcinogens
sure..
>>55472740
3 joints of unfiltered plant material vs 20 of micro-filtered plant material
>>55465856
is that why your garbage society chose to collectively commit suicide by allowing mudslimes to overrun your country and rape your women and children?
Cause Individualism hasn't caused that here in the U.S.
>>55472740
>WEED LMAO! IT IS NATURAL!
Molds and other natural things are some of the most cancerous things on the planet. Particle damage is also a big thing. See >>55472871
I thought about it today and I realised how drugs have ruined lots of my friend and family's lives
>best friend began smoking weed in early-mid teens, ever since he's been jumpy, schizophrenic, been on anti-depressants, dropped out of college and became a janitor
>sister was normal growing up, started smoking weed into later teens then transitioned onto the harder stuff, now lives in a van/shack and is an irresponsible hippie leech
>other friend largely avoided drugs until the end of college, smoked weed, moved on to harder drugs now at work, I was really upset when he told me about this
>my uncle committed suicide after he became addicted to the same drugs my friend is doing now
The one thing they all had in common is they started on weed then moved on to a harder drug, it's true that it's a gateway drug.
Meanwhile the Keknited Kingdom barely enforces its drug laws and only lets the problem worsen. Drug culture has become a huge staple of everyday life. Even my next door neighbours used to be addicts. Pretty much everyone is on some kind of drug and has a behavioural disorder.
And yeah alcohol sucks too, I know a guy who had pancreatic cancer and died within a few months of finding it because of how rare and fatal it is. He would drink every day. I don't know why people do this shit to themselves, I'm a fat weeb but I'd feel so guilty for killing myself just because of my family and friends. Seems as if it's mostly down to peer pressure especially as a kid, and the fact this country has almost given up on enforcing drug laws makes it completely hopeless. The cycle will continue and only get worse, until eventually all the shit's legalized and we accept everyone in society is a brain dead zombie, or jumping out of their skin like a cartoon.
>>55472871
tobacco industry shill detected
let me guess if we only allow you to process and package marijuana you can make it safe right?
>>55473657
zombified butthurt stoner detected. any smoked plant material is carcinogenic, that's why i don't smoke anything. i was just offering a possible explanation.
>>55473832
great job there str8 edge burger
now keep driving that SUV..
>>55465109
Smoking does not cause cancer, just like cheeseburgers do not cause fatness. It only increases the risks involved.
>>55473925
you seem mad. apparently you haven't toked enough today.
>>55474256
i ain't even smoked in 6 years
but i'm sure i will again when its legal
>>55465565
>>55465686
>>55465740
I remmeber reading something about heightened heart rate under the effects of pot, which has caused cardiac arrests
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/marijuana-use-may-lead-to-cardiac-arrest-and-other-heart-problems/
Cars, guns, water, swimming, smoking, drinking, drugs, tools, sex, etc.
Who gives a shit if it's dangerous or can kill you?
Do you think you're going to live forever or something if you don't do dangerous things?
>>55474463
a lot of people give a shit if something is dangerous or can kill you. some people would prefer to avoid particularly dangerous activities if possible in order to prolong their lifespan.
>>55473126
>I'm a fat weeb but I'd feel so guilty for killing myself
Obesity kills more people a year that all drugs(legal and illegal) combined.
You are killing yourself. Your drug is sloth and gluttony.
>>55466471
>most of us are using vapes.
That's definitely not true.
>>55474566
You can use drugs and live to a ripe old age.
Shulgin and Hofmann both did it. Hofmann lived to be over 100.
Life in a safety bubble is no life. Stop being a fucking woman and live a little.
>>55474717
>stop being a woman and live a little
having matured as an adult and left behind the experimenting years in highschool and college, i don't need to use drugs anymore to "live a little". i've been there and done that and now i'm over it. if you need drugs to "live a little" you have a problem.
>>55474717
I'm pretty sure more people in 1st world countries die from obesity than from drug related deaths.
>>55474910
Drugs are just another form of recreation, and are no different than reading, surfing, or playing videogames. That last one is a very effective releaser of dopamine, much like cocaine, except not as good.
>>55474943
Oh most definitely.
Alexander Shulgin's work proves how safe drugs are. At least the psychedelics and empathogens.
>>55475173
Also, holy balls my degenerate ID.
>>55472433
even though you can do this, you are not funny.
>>55472099
Bob Marley took it to joke levels. He smoked like quarter pound a week.
Pound, not ounce.
>>55475173
>drugs are no different than reading
I'm gonna assume you're just fucking with me and your brain is not so drug-addled that you would actually believe that.
>>55474910
Some people's personalities are centered around pushing conventional boundaries and "living a little". Although i wouldn't romantacize that aspect of them much, they don't need to grow out it because, aside from the health effects , they arent trying to use drugs to escape from underlying problems in their life. It could be considered the same as drinking socially.
>>55465109
Yet somehow I still don't care. People are going to smoke it regardless and it isn't just to put them in prison for something that harms no one.
>>55466124
You can actually. But physically it's almost impossible.
>>55474943
I think the problem is people don't usually compare things like fast obesity to drugs, one is just more socially acceptable than the other.
>>55466471
I bet you voted liberal
str8edgers are no better than whiteknights
>>55475508
I get a wonderful time from both reading AND drugs.
They both stimulate my brain and imagination, and that's what I'm after in recreation.
>>55475867
Yeah, being a gluttonous pig and costing taxpayers untold sums of money while using vast amounts of resources is more acceptable than doing coke or LSD.
Truly a disgusting age we now live in.
>>55474592
I am aware of this and know it's bad.
Drug abusers don't seem to care or realise this shit is bad for them. Also thanks for ignoring the rest of my heartfelt post faggot.
>>55476072
yeah, except reading can be an intellectual exercise (depending on what you read) unlike taking a drug. and you can't overdose on a book. or catch a disease from sharing a used book. or have a bad trip on a book. or become physically dependent on books.
literally the only thing reading and drugs have in common is the dopamine release
I don't even smoke weed, but isn't DailyMail the same piece of trash that published the article about some woman dying after smoking a joint?
>>55476304
Here's the article, for reference
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2548669/Devout-Christian-mother-three-31-woman-Britain-DIE-cannabis-poisoning-smoking-joint-bed.html
>>55465312
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCggeEoNGCQ&ab_channel=CultureHigh
>>55475445
He died of a treatable tumor that he refused to have surgically removed because he was a stupid rasta nigger.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Marley#Illness_and_death
>>55476222
>unlike taking a drug
Take better drugs.
>literally the only thing reading and drugs have in common is the dopamine release
Actually, it's more of an endorphin and serotonin release with books.
How much do you ACTUALLY know about drugs? What drugs have you used, OR what is your background in chemistry or pharmacology?
>>55465109
Smoking three whole joints a day all by myself? These muslims don't seem to know anything about weed. That said, I heard the europoors mix their weed with tobacco- which is a fucking terrible idea. Damn mudslimes don't know how to do a nonbiased and accurate scientific study, what else is new?
>>55467618
Genes activated by canabinoids.
>>55476466
>what drugs have you used
most of them, some habitually. but apparently i haven't done enough to convince myself that taking them could ever be an intellectual exercise on par with reading a good book.
>>55470061
The Netherlands seem pretty alright and they have pseudolegal pot. They're actually better off than us in many metrics.
You need a night of molly with friends followed by a day of shrooms m8.
>>55465109
>3 joints a day can cause the same damage to the airways as a pack of 20 cigarettes
do some dabs you muzzie fucks
>>55465109
Americans say it's good for you, while Britain is concerned for health, which is OK, but why do i feel this is motivated by progressive new Muslim ideas in UK. Maybe it's just /pol/ that makes me feel that way.
>>55476644
WEED LMAO
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfdPgzfzCj0
>>55476586
>most of them, some habitually.
Such as? Give some examples and doses.
>>55476694
desu dabs are pretty fun but the culture around it is pretty nasty. i don't ever want to go to Colorado...
FRIEND MARIJUANA HAHA
>>55465865
Nicotine constricts blood vessels.
