prove feminism wrong without going full ad hominem.
>protip: you can't
>>55457980
I'm going full ad hominem.
That woman on the picture, Geraldine Doyle, left the factory she was working in after only a couple of weeks because she was afraid of having an injury from the metal pressing machines.
>>55457980
Feminist societies can't reproduce at a stable level. If your ideology leads to the literal death of your society, it's wrong.
>>55457980
Birthrates have tanked because of it
What's the point of having a society if it doesn't continue itself?
>>55458232
1.) What is a feminist society?
2.) Why don't you think they can?
>>55458463
>1.) What is a feminist society?
Western Europe
>2.) Why don't you think they can?
Look at the data dingus
>>55457980
matriarchies are ugly stupid inferior and anti-tribal
the closer we move towards matriarchy through womens liberation the closer we move towards anti-tribal weakness like your country and Sweden.
>>55458414
>implying the birthrates go down only because of feminism
russia gives a shit about feminism and they have one of the lowest birthrates in the world, mainly because of the very low social security.
>>55458463
>1.) What is a feminist society?
A feminist society is one that has done away with social controls on women's sexuality. There are no social costs for uninhibited promiscuity, infidelity, or hypergamy.
2.) Why don't you think they can?
In the absence of social controls on female sexuality, women revert to their natural, animalistic drive to pursue short-term sexual gratification. They universally fail to form stable families. A large proportion fail to have any children, or have only one, whether in a family, or not. The birth rate falls below replacement level, and the society dies. The End.
>>55458917
>women revert to their natural, animalistic drive to pursue short-term sexual gratification
are you fucking serious?
>>55457980
Feminism is wrong because it gives political and economical power to women, who are in general, overly influenced by their emotions, and because of it, they are unfit for leading / deciding roles.
But do not mistake me, frankly, I think most men are unfit for these roles aswell. We should have tests to determine if someone has a sufficiently stable personality, and I think much more woman would fail it than men.
On the other hand, feminism encourages women to build careers and in general, feminism encourages women to try and take the men's palce in society. Not only it is harmfull to men (in a way that it's partially responsible for men losing their masculinity), but since women already have well-defined roles in our society (being mothers mostly), this social trend puts excessive burden on them, which is harmfull for both them and their children.
And finally, feminism is usually closely related to other leftist ideologies, each of which are destructive in their own way.
>>55457980
"Feminism" as it is now, it a complete mess. It essential goes against everything it had ever stood for and puts the Female above everything in some twisted form of 'equality' . Back then, I can at least understand the need for feminism but now-a-days it's an absolute joke and every time I see some dumb SJW cunt I want to stab her fucking eyes out and snap her fucking neck jesus christ it makes me so fucking mad i just want another holocaust.
Why are white men so selfish, always trying to convince everything was and will be better when they're in power. True its better than Muslim rule and Sharia law, but picking the lesser of two evils isn't much of a choice. How is losing rights for the betterment of women in something like a National Socialist country, how does not having a voice help women? Sure you'll treat us "right" as long as we are what you want, then aggressively push us when we want to make our own decisions.
>>55459550
So if the rule of white men is the lesser evil, then what is good? It might be far from perfect, but there's nothing better we know of. And don't forget that white men love white women, want to protect them and make the world better for them. The abusing of this led to the clusterfuck that's called 3d wave feminism.
>>55457980
Female supremacy is a morally wrong concept.
>>55459225
What do you think they're doing instead of having children? They're out riding the cock carousel.
>>55457980
bitch plz, this board is the most hardcore femanists i have everyseen. they just oppose fake femanist who want equal right without equal responsibilities
>>55457980
Men and women are not, and will never will be equal, because nature.
>>55460010
what's wrong with it?
>>55459877
>female supremacy
>feminism
>>55459839
If white men love their women why do they want to remove them from all spheres of influence but that of the home? I don't know what is perfect, but I doubt it starts with men revoking women's rights.
>>55459420
> feminism encourages women to try and take the men's palce in society.
It encourages them to make their own place in society, where they have a choice if the want to be a mother, something else or both.
How is that even possible?
>>55459225
That's what's happening now.
Look at the hookup culture and look at every prominent female magazine or website. Women are obsessed with sex.
>>55460430
>If white men love their women why do they want to remove them from all spheres of influence but that of the home? I don't know what is perfect, but I doubt it starts with men revoking women's rights.
Men don't want to remove women from power. The proof for this is that while the power structure of our societies is still dominated by men, such thing as women's quotas in parliments can happen. In comparison, if you want to see a society where men don't want to allow women to hold any power, look at any of the islamic theocracies.
But it is a fundamental part of our very nature that the role of women is the upbringing of our offsprings, emotional support of men, the keeping of the household etc. Sticking to this role indeed wastes the talent of many gifted women, but fighting against it will destroy our society as a whole. I put the blame on the lack of appreciation for the said roles however, if women were recognised as the vital part of the society in their traditional roles the first place, and were given the proper appreciation, then feminism wouldn't be such a problem today.
This is one of the many things that Hitler's Germany did well, while women were encouraged to return to their traditional roles, they were also celebrated not only as the mothers of their children, but as the mothers of the nation as a whole.
>>55457980
>prove feminism wrong without going full ad hominem.
Feminism isn't wrong. It's a full success. If you want to destroy the West, that is.
>>55460010
haha love it
Found this gem in the other feminism thread, I think it's worth watching for both pro anti feminists.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0h17GG3wD4
>>55457980
>Many women are forced to choose between motherhood and careers. Childless women in corporate America earn almost as much as men. Mothers with partners earn less and single mothers much less. The cost of motherhood is particularly steep for fast-track women. Traditionally “female” jobs such as teaching mix well with motherhood because wages do not rise much with experience and hours are relatively light. But at successful firms wages rise steeply and schedules are demanding. Future bosses are expected to have worked in several departments and countries. Professional-services firms have an up-or-out system which rewards the most dedicated with lucrative partnerships. The reason for the income gap may thus be the opposite of prejudice. It is that women are judged by exactly the same standards as men.
http://www.economist.com/node/15174418
Feminism is wrong because it's just another form of collectivism, and every form of collectivism is wrong as it evaluates individuals not by their personal feats and virtues but rather their, mostly involuntary, affiliation with a group
>white women destroyed the Romain empire
>they are doing the same shit again
>>55457980
What is feminism? Give me an objective definition instead of the typical feminist sophistry and we can talk.
>>55458200
And what? She prooved her point. She can do it. She just does not want to.
>>55457980
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yzGA_glnkM
>>55457980
There are no rights men have that women don't have in Western society.
Therefore feminism isn't needed and is now justed used to puch totalitarian agenda and to get women privileges in the eye of the law by pretexting that men have mystrious other non-legal privileges because of patriarcal conspiracy.
>>55465094
Frenchfag here.
Don't listen to this faggot.
#killallmen
>>55458232
>>55458414
There's one factor that needs to be kept in mind in any discussion of birth rates: child labor is illegal now outside of some farming exemptions, and farming is performed by a much, much smaller portion of the population than throughout most of history.
When it's expected that your children will be laborers for the family, this gives children a higher utility. Remove that utility, there will be less incentive to make kids and thus fewer births.
This isn't to say that child labor is good or that there aren't other factors reducing birthrates, but child labor does introduce a fundamental difference in the decision to have children.
>>55457980
Because feminism is a product of a literal societal illness that occurs when groups of people experience too much wealth.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavioral_sink
Your question is akin to "what's wrong with having the flu? What's wrong with being autistic? What's wrong with being a tranny? What's wrong with being bipolar? etc.
>>55457980
lol the girl from that poster quit the next week cause factory conditions were too brutal
suck my dick allah ackbar desu kekold senpai
prove germany isn't full of faggots
>protip: you can't
>>55458200
/thread
women only want equality where it serves them. they don't want equality before the draft, in the most dangerous jobs, carrying around heavy things, etc.
plus it's unnecessarily divisive
sage
>>55457980
That's easy. Not only society still protects women more that it does men, women still have the option to not work and live an alright life, and women arent', as a whole, ready to take the lead on society for the first two reasons.
Men and women are not equal, though men just happened to be forced to become better.
>>55457980
feminism is the girl version of machism
>bonus: less than 10 words
