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LINKS ARCHIVES for Nov 11
>ARTICLES...http://pastebin.com/GEzLKa7c
>TWITTER.....http://pastebin.com/t8679UsR
>VIDEO.........http://pastebin.com/hVRCFb83
>ARCHIVE.....http://pastebin.com/Nqw00Snc

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/syria/damascus
>Livestream Syrian TV Channels
http://live.rtv.gov.sy/Sat.aspx?LQ=1
>TIMELINE Syria/Iraqi Civil Wars
https://youtu.be/TyHkSEs6dAM

PERMANENT MAPS
>Live map with ticker
http://syria.liveuamap.com/
>Interactive Military Maps (Jewbook login to edit - turn off elements if slow)
http://militarymaps.info/
>Zoomable Map
https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=zBQmSuDKQbh0.kBw9-jZtOjZI
>Syrian Civil War Maps Sept 30-Present
http://www.edmaps.com/html/syrian_civil_war_in_maps.html

TODAY'S MAPS
>S Aleppo NOV 11
https://twitter.com/SyrianMaps/status/664297205268930560
>KWERES/Kuweires NOV 11
https://twitter.com/SyrianMaps/status/664297396088737792
>Aleppo Oct28-Nov10
http://www.understandingwar.org/sites/default/files/Aleppo%20Map%20NOV%20KUWEIRES.pdf
>LIBERATION OF KWERES NOV 10
http://www.agathocledesyracuse.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/SE-Aleppo-10-Nov-2015.jpg
https://twitter.com/PetoLucem/status/664116661293850624
https://twitter.com/Amin_Akh/status/664130858148888576
https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/664096046893658112
https://twitter.com/miladvisor/status/664171205608476672
https://twitter.com/petejohn10/status/664230227015503873
>ISIS strikes Latakia NOV 10
https://twitter.com/petejohn10/status/664228625508642816
>SAA heads East captures Rasm 'Abbud NOV 10
https://twitter.com/Ibra_Joudeh/status/664115467255181312
https://twitter.com/Syria_Protector/status/664116982795603968
>Kweires and Tal Aran NOV 10
https://twitter.com/_paulo34/status/664198546594381824

>Previous Thread >>55423875

>#Kweres #Kuweires #Kapwing #Kapow #Kapwew
https://youtu.be/2pULujtqoHE
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Syrian Civil War Tier Ranking

>God Tier

Bashar Al Assad
Qasem Soleimani

>Based Tier

Maher al-Assad
Issam Zahreddine (Druze Beast)
Suheil Al Hassan (The Tiger)
Vladimir Putin

>Good Tier

Hassan Nasrallah

POWER GAP

>Shit Tier

Barack Obama
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi

>Not even worth mentioning Tier

John McCain
John Kerry

Who else to add to list?
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>>55444489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQTDmZVqSLM
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>>55444512
Abu Omar al-Shishani
and Mark
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>>55444530
10/10
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>>55444530

>Truck Ornaments

http://theync.com/thekiddd/isis-members-used-at-truck-ornaments.htm
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>>55423875

Yes?
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Livestream link for Syrian TV channels added to permanent op.

Carry on, comfy friends.
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javascript:quote('55443880')

Yes? Mark?
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1st for my Wifu
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>>55444715

>>55443144

>ftfy ;)
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>>55444715
Look, you literally can remove all that crap around the number and add >> in front. What the hell are you doing?

Moreover what the hell are you doing with trying to copy the link address instead of just clicking on it and having the >>55443880
copied inside your textbox?
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https://twitter.com/RamiAlLolah/status/664460565016875008
>8+ Tons SVBIED just hit #Assad army positions east #DeirEzzor air-base
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holy fuck my sides

>We rose up for freedom & are confronting too many enemies inside & outside #Syria
https://twitter.com/RevolutionSyria/status/664387701844672512
>pic related
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https://twitter.com/2Rook14/status/664455068821786624
>HEAVY fighting taking place again now b/w #ISIS & #SAA/#SyAAF troops near #Deir_EzZor Air Base. 8 airstrikes reported

https://twitter.com/arabthomness/status/664452886311530496
>Liwa Thuwar #Raqqa (#FSA/#SDF) are quickly increasing their numbers, in preparations of the battle of Raqqa

https://twitter.com/markito0171/status/664460155698966529
>Russia'n airstrikes on Al-Eis & Al-Hadher to pave #Iran backed militias the way in southern rural #Aleppo
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Intense background fighting - fuck, he's just a little kid...

https://twitter.com/sakirkhader/status/664370940319506432
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>>55444554

>can analyse what happens from the point of conflicting clans and tribes, and not religions
>appoint people based on belonging to their own clan, that they can trust to.
no you cannot because these are tribes within one religion
the religion is the distinguishing factor, not the tribe
even if we take say, your argument and I''ll make if for you, since you are too ignorant to present it yourself that say Assad's tribe (Kalbiyya (other main three are Matawira, Haddadin, Khayyatin)) is the tribe among the Alawi that has the most influence and positions, this tribe is still an Alawite, and therefore a religious grouping, tribe, as opposed to a Sunni grouping

its not the issue that the majority has to be represented, it is the issue that the reason the majority is not represented is because of a non-secular policy of appointing officials from only one religious group, the Alawites

any Muslim, regardless of them in fact being democratic nationalist, has to pay lip service to 'shariah', it doesn't mean they actually want it, their charters all state their desire for a nationalistic democratic Syria
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>>55444953

>Liwa Thuwar #Raqqa (#FSA/#SDF) are quickly increasing their numbers, in preparations of the battle of Raqqa

>Battle of Raqqa

The big one, not for a while yet though. This is where ISIS will once and for all be destroyed.
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If I understand it right memebase2 is DeirEzzor?
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https://twitter.com/RamiAlLolah/status/664465387522772992
>Eyewitnesses: Massive fires spreading inside #DeirEzzor air-base after reports of explosion in arms depots inside the base..

https://twitter.com/Gjoene/status/664397808691240960
>video of #RuAF MI-24's striking #IS #Daesh positions on mountains in the #Palmyra area
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>>55445114

It's a meme in the way it is basically being single handedly defended by the Druze Beast.
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>>55444763
kek I shouldnt have introduced you guys to our tv B-))))))
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Russia is alredy negociating for Syria without Assad being the president.

Putin betrayed Assad alredy.
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>>55444874

Relax Russiabro, he'll get it.

SA, you could also just right click and "copy link location" then paste link into fresh reply box in new thread. Couple different ways to get an old link to a new thread. Use what's easiest for you.
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Has anyone have vids of syrian civils reacting to Russian intervention/Russia/whatever ?Or interaction between russians soldiers in Lattakia/Tartus and locals ?

The only thing I have :

www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rNc82fgvz4

www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6x2yG4o3LE
I'm a relational fag, the only thing who interest me in conflicts are the reactions of random people in the same way that comments interest me more than videos on Youtube.
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>@RamiAlLolah a lot seaing that #ISIS give up on #Kuwaires to gat #DeirEzzor from #Assad in In return for giving up on the airbase
https://twitter.com/mataner307/status/664463763844808704

Where in fuck did these cementheads get the idea Assad asked ISIS to trade Kweres for DEZ? Been seeing this littered around and there's absolutely no basis for it. Wtf.
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well then
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>>55445557
what's going on in there!!??!?!

OMG! No !!!! Stahp!
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>>55445515
>reading pro-rebel bullshit
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>>55445515
>>55445627
That guy has been full of shit the entire time.
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>>55445626
>>55445557

ARM TEH GOATS
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>>55445626
Is that liveuamap?
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>>55445030
>Kalbiyya is the tribe among the Alawi that has the most influence and positions, this tribe is still an Alawite, and therefore a religious grouping, tribe, as opposed to a Sunni grouping
Lol, literally the exact opposite. If it's a tribe among several others with the same religion, then it's NOT a religious grouping first, exactly because it doesn't encompass all religious followers. It's a tribe first, which happens to follow a particular religion, which is the usual story with all small tribes.

But it's good that you finally interested yourself with tribal structure of Alawites and discovered for yourself that the split doesn't even go across religious boundaries. So, Kalbiyya tribe usurped the power. Sad but happens. Kalbiyya tribe people happen to follow Alawite faith. Irrelevant, as Kalbiyya tribe prefers people from their own tribe, to the detriment of other Alawite tribes.

>non-secular policy of appointing officials from only one religious group
Even if such policy indeed took place, it would have nothing to do with secularity, as government hiring policies can legitimately discriminate against followers of specific religions, especially if that would make the government more susceptible to influence and infiltration by neighboring church-states. Secularity is not about governmental recruiting policies, but about not enforcing your religion onto people at large.

But the truth is that nothing like that takes place at all. Kalbiyya tribe took the position in power and discriminates against all people outside itself alike. So we have a clique in power that tries to keep itself in power, a literally universally present happenstance in all secular states, Syria included.

>any Muslim, regardless of them in fact being democratic nationalist, has to pay lip service to 'shariah', it doesn't mean they actually want it,
>t-they don't really mean, I swear!111
Kek.

Fact is, Assad = secular. Stay mad.
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>>55445627
>>55445669
he's not the only one to tweet about it
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>>55445705
yup

http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2015/11-november-8-tons-svbied-just-hit-assad-army-positions
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>>55445245

Are you kidding? My kid made me save the cartoon link to his laptop.
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>>55445626
rip Issam ;_;
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>>55445705
Yes can confirm
>8+ Tons SVBIED just hit #Assad army positions east #DeirEzzor air-base
Shieeeet
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Even fresher map.
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>>55445741
>your kid is now watching secular islam pro assad cartoons
We are become meme ourselves
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>>55444901

>https://twitter.com/RevolutionSyria/status/BTFO

ftfy
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>New Video From Kuweyres Airbase
https://youtu.be/f_glAPjnSFE
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>>55445797

Can imagine him frantically running around duel wielding PKMs dropping ISIS rats like flies.
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Assad dun goofed.
ISIS is on the righteous path.
Mark was right, we were wrong.
The Moongod is real.
We were put here on this world to fuck goats and nothing more.
It's become clear now.
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>>55445893

Maybe in about a month he can start translating this shit for me.
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>>55445893
If you want an idea about secular islam in Syria, watch Nour Al Sham channel which is available in the livestream link.
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>>55445927
can't they just cram them in coaches and drive the fuck out to damascus already?
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>>55444901

From that twitter,

top left corner.
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>>55446004
top lel
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>>55446049
At this point that airbase is the safest place in syria, why they should ever leave?
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>new Vice documentary

https://youtu.be/7sPY0X8SrLo
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>>55445700
NO!
GOATS ARE FOR THE LOVING NOT FOR THE FIGHTING!
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>>55446068
Missiles as swordfish, cute.
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>>55444815
>>55444874
I did it just the other day.....sad I know.
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Where did the FSA came from?
If he wasn't an evil dictator as the west wants to put him, why did the FSA formed?
I'm sincerely curious and largely ignorant of this conflict.
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>>55445933
>yfw your kids describes you how Bashar al Assad the Lion rekt Scar al Baghdadi and reclaimed his fathers kingdom with his friends Putimon and Pumba Ali Hosseini
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>>55445195
>https://twitter.com/arabthomness/status/664452886

RAMI IS A DISCREDITED CUNT
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>>55446104
why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7cvTlmauO4
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>>55445306
Not really, they are still negotiating on the basis of assad+family getting out of this free from any prosecution.
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>>55445712

no, because there are non-Kalbiyya tribe Alawites in positions of power
Sunnis are not being allowed into positions of power not because they are not from Kalbiyya, but because they are not Alawite at all
don't pretend you knew anything about Alawite tribes beforehand

it obviously does, a government is not secular if it's policies are based on only promoting people of a certain religious group, regardless of the reason
what you are admitting here is 'actually Syria is not secular, they do discriminate based on religion but it's okay because they have to!!' kek
again, a state doesn't have to be a theocracy enforcing religion on people to not be secular

>literally universally present happenstance
no, it is not universal for a government to be peopled by one religion or even one tribe who adhere to one religion
what other governments in the world are there that have only one tribe and one religion ruling? hmm Saudi Arabia, what a 'secular' country that is, top kek (and yes, Saudi does actually implement religious law, that's not the point)
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>>55446177

Nahh, don't worry about it.
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>>55446278
Meant for >>55446004
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>>55446177
read these:
http://www.4chan.org/faq

congrats on your dubs young one
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>>55445328
I was pretty sure I did. anyways, supper is down the hole, feeling more compus mentus
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>>55446295
tweet deleted. What did it say?
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>>55446239
>why did the FSA formed?
the CIA

To be honest, there is rarely if ever a successful grassroots revolution in recent history. All had outside aid.
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SIEG HEIL
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>>55446645
But what reason do they had to be mad at Assad?
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>>55446686
Can someone explain this picture to me?
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>>55444953
Deir Ezzor again? Shit, these guys are so fucking persistent.
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>>55446462

Kek. As long as he doesn't allahu ackbar me while I'm sleeping.
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>>55445816
damn isis is encircling the salient.
Looks like they will have to liberate the liberators.
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>>55446772
https://twitter.com/arabthomness/status/664439629299355649
iunno
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>>55446772

>#Syria: 500 new #FSA recruits have finished their training with Liwa Thuwar #Raqqa (#SDF) in the town of Tall Abyad
https://twitter.com/arabthomness/status/664439629299355649
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>>55446686
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>>55445414
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>>55445626
im scared. hold me. :(
Stay strong Druze Beast!
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>>55446740
Assad keeps the Sunni majority from ruling Syria, which they see as their right, being the majority.
Assad's government ins a relatively small clique, which will upset other people outside that clique.
Assad's government is secular, which upsets islamists.
Some, at the beginning at least, would have fought Assad in the belief they had something to gain if he were deposed, maybe power or wealth that they thought was denied them. Propaganda can have a great effect.
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>>55444512
>no Mark tier
You had one job desu
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>>55446413
for example, Ali Duba (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Duba)
Ali Douba (Arabic: علي دوبا) (b. 1933), former head of the Syrian military intelligence

An Alawite, but from Matawira tribe, not Assad's Kalbiyya

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salah
Salah Jadid (1926 – 19 August 1993, Arabic: صلاح جديد) was a Syrian general_Jadid

Alawite, from Haddadin tribe

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Haydar
Ali Haydar (Arabic: علي حيدر), known as the "father of the Syrian Special Forces", was the commander of the Syrian Special Forces for 26 years

Khayatin or Haddadin tribe

so though its true that Assads tribe are prominent, the idea that they solely rule Syria and it is a tribal affair, is wrong

the Assad rule is based more broadly upon all Alawites, a religious grouping
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>>55446740

Well if you leave all the religious shit out of it, the whole mess started in 2007.

Drought occurred - crops dried up. Imports got expensive. Assad increased taxes in certain areas of the country more than others (Sunni areas). Sunni were pissed and protested. Things got violent. Those first Sunni protestors turned into the Free Syrian Army.

Enter the CIA/Mossad who saw an opportunity. They funded the FSA and gave them weapons. A LOT of those FSA just took the money and ran - joined ISIS, Nusra, whatever. Anybody left got initiated in the $500 million training program that just went tits up a few weeks ago.

Anyway, Sunni hate Assad because he's Alawite and he fucked them over when the drought hit. That's about as condensed a reason as I can get.
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>>55446579
>https://twitter.com/RevolutionSyria/status/BTFO
Something about fires inside of D-E-Z. Implying that D-E-Z was being over run
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>>55447344
Daesh would be lucky to have you between their ranks, you would make a good strategist.

Have you learned arabic yet?
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>>55446049
What was the point of pushing the lines then? They could have airlifted them out years ago.
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>>55446686
Heil.
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>>55447344
Exceptions proving the lack of rule.

>>55446413
>no, because there are non-Kalbiyya tribe Alawites in positions of power
False.

>Following Assad's seizure of sole power in 1970 (the Corrective Movement), part of his strategy was to concentrate control in the hands of members of the Kalbiyya tribe.[13]
>In practice, active participation in the Assad government has, since then, been limited to members of the Kalbiyya tribe.[15]

So we have Kalbiyya tribe in power, with other Alawites, Sunnies and Christians taking the irrelevant positions.

>don't pretend you knew anything about Alawite tribes beforehand
Says the man, who initially shat himself with the claim that secularism is about individuals not praising god, and since then all he did is try hard to not get what it really is about. Lol, you're so embarassing and hypocritical.

>no, it is not universal for a government to be peopled by one religion or even one tribe who adhere to one religion
What? Government having majorily same religion is literally the most common thing ever happening. Power cliques forming on tribal borders is also quite widespread thing, even though in more modern societies they came to be more along the lines of business group associations and suchlike. Why are you even lying against the obvious?
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>>55446413
Oh, yeah, almost forgot to state the obvious.

Assad = secular. Stay mad.
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>>55446579

Not deleted - anon just cut off the last couple numbers of the tweet link. His tweets are all still there that I remember.
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>>55446499
I thought I was the only Saffa in the village.
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>>55447479
well hopefully they ones they do have are good already
Arabic is still basic

>>55447663
obviously not false >>55447344
these are only a few prominent examples, there are many more

its certainly correct to say we have Assad, and Kalbiyya tribe, in power, it is incorrect to say that Alawites are in the irrelevant positions
they take the high and mid-level positions below the very small circle of the Assad family
Because one tribe is preeminent within the religious group of the Alawites, it doesn't mean that the Alawites as a whole are not the pre-eminent group within wider Syria
to assert that Assad could rule all Syria with only his tribe without engagement and support in politics from the wider Alawite religious community is both ridiculous and historically/factually untrue
which means I am entirely correct to say that this discrimination is based on religion, and therefore not secular

no, most governments are not based only on one religious group to the exclusion of others who constitute the majority
There is even a difference with the one I mentioned, because although the Saudi tribe rules, they are the same religion as the majority of their country
What other country has one tribe and one religion ruling over a country where most people of are a different religion?
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>>55448053
Maybe he is a Kaffir
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>>55448089
end yourself you autistic daesh faggot
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>>55448053
kek
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>>55446740
the promise of power and riches
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>>55448053
Nah mate. But you are the new one. Welcome. The last one ran out of here when he learned he might be 6-10 % african in origin. I didn't judge him for it, but it came across as if he did not know. Anywise. Have fun. Injoy
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>http://www.almasdarnews.com/article/breaking-cheetah-forces-capture-another-village-near-the-kuweires-airbase-in-east-aleppo/

"On Wednesday afternoon, the Syrian Arab Army’s “Cheetah Forces Team 6” (Tiger Forces brigade) – in coordination with the National Defense Forces (NDF) of Aleppo City and Kataebat Al-Ba’ath (Al-Ba’ath Battalions) – launched a new assault on the Deir Hafer Plains in the Aleppo Governorate’s eastern countryside, targeting the Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham’s (ISIS) defensive positions near the strategic Aleppo-Raqqa Highway.

The Cheetah Forces and their allies conducted their assault from the East Kuweires village, where they struck a trapped ISIS contingent at the eastern flank of the nearby village of Judidah; this resulted in an intense series of firefights between the two opposing sides.

Unfortunately for ISIS, they were completely overpowered by the Cheetah Forces Team 6 and the Tiger Forces’ elite tank battalion at Judidah; this battle concluded with the terrorist group retreating north in order to evade the swarming soldiers from the Syrian Armed Forces that were hell-bent on pressing further west towards the provincial capital."

So much for the fucking counter attack lead by the Shishani faggot himself.
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>>55448053
ek het hom gevra of hy geweet het hoekom boetjan se neus soe plat is
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>>55448439
m8 I have been here since 2012. I'm just more of a lurker. My inner shitpost blooms during drought, like a parktown prawn.
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>>55445626
memebase hostile takeover when?!!!!!
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>>55444489
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pULujtqoHE

the guys on memebase 1 deserves a film
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>>55448147
haram
>>55448089
try to answer my own question
the Sunni monarchy in majority Shia Bahrain is a parallel with Alawite rule in Sunni Syria
but an even better parallel is Sunni in Baathist Iraq with the Shia majority
looking on Wikipedia and I can't see many other similar examples in the modern day
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>>55444953
Battle of Raqqa? How it's that possible?
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>>55448089

>its certainly correct to say we have Assad, and Kalbiyya tribe, in power, it is incorrect to say that Alawites are in the irrelevant positions

Nope. Read that again and weep.

>>In practice, active participation in the Assad government has, since then, been limited to members of the Kalbiyya tribe
In other words, exceptions you present are not the rule, no matter how you try to present them otherwise.

>to assert that Assad could rule all Syria with only his tribe without engagement and support in politics from the wider Alawite religious community is both ridiculous and historically/factually untrue
*Without support from other tribes, alawite and non-alawite alike. Fixed that for you. It's idiotic to assert that one can rule without support of other tribes, especially the tribes that constitute majority of the population, namely sunni tribes. It makes no sense to claim that all 4 alawite tribes which still are a whopping minority can rule exclusively by usurping power, yet claim that the same power supposedly can't be usurped by 1 or 2 or 3 alawite tribes.

So Assad's tribe has political support from other tribes, in order to rule the country, what a surprise. Some of those clans are closer to the clan in power, what a surprise. You're literally arguing about nothing.

>What other country has one tribe and one religion ruling over a country where most people of are a different religion?
Well, US rulers actually are all Jews, so there's that, lol. Azerbaijan, Iran, etc all had periods in history when the were secular yet ran by tribes or tight mafia like families. What a pointless question. Your implication that there's something wrong with Syria unless there's some other country exactly fitting the bill is utterly retarded. Why are you trying to distract from the main point of secularism, namely that religion is not enforced by government in Syria?

Point is, Assad = secular. Stay mad.
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>>55448601
Awesome, I look forward to it. And again welcome. Looks like it might rain tonight. But the way it's been going lately it's probably just wind.
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>>55449064

Raqqa was bombed by Russian aircraft earlier, I believe. They're evacuated a lot of people from there, so I don't think that Raqqa is as important as it used to be.

How does the current map look like? What places does ISIS occupy?
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In response to:
>>55446030
>Where did the FSA came from?
>If he wasn't an evil dictator as the west wants to put him, why did the FSA formed?
>I'm sincerely curious and largely ignorant of this conflict.
There are a number of conflicting theories.
General consensus is that the happening in Syria began because one of the region's players sponsored it, and they then called in ISIS and al-Quaeda when they started losing to the Syrian Government.
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>>55446113
>Vice
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>>55448467
>pink backpack

Cute
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>>55449072
>taking one line on Wikipedia as the final say
the fact is that although the Assad family, their tribe, is at the top of government, by no means does it occupy all positions, and not in all spheres, those are occupied by Alawites generally

we are talking about participation in government, the extent to which Assad/the Syrian state did or dod not court Sunni tribes is not the point, they did not and do not occupy high level positions in the state apparatus, because those are reserved for Alawis

you are contradicting yourself, because firstly you say, only Assads tribe and not Alawites generally are important and represented in government, then you say all Syria including Sunni and their tribes are part of Assads powerbase

those same Sunni tribes you are desperately trying to assert Assad had a relationship with in order to disguise the reality that his rule is based on Alawites broadly and not merely his tribe are the same ones now allied with IS

I already answered my own question here >>55448898
good job too because you were incapable of it and can't understand even the reason I posed the question, which is to demonstrate that this model of government (a religious minority ruling a religious majority) is so uncommon because it is bad, not that its bad because its uncommon
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New map.......they're still going.

>Tiger Force captures Judaydah NOV 11
https://twitter.com/Ibra_Joudeh/status/664462588810567680
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>>55445414
>www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rNc82fgvz4
I notice something in this video.

The men are normal human beings. The women aren't covered from head to toe.
These Syrians under Assad are completely secular and they look like us.

Meanwhile the Media is trying to portray them as Satan, while praising the islamist rebels with muslim beard.
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>A Bulldozer taken out by #TOW #ATGM in Aleppo sector. Driver bailing out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2oayQwsLx4&
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>>55450012
Widening the supply lines and consolidating around the airbase. Thank God. I bet once that is done, they'll go west along the road towards Aleppo.
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>>55449824
>this model of government (a religious minority ruling a religious majority) is so uncommon because it is bad, not that its bad because its uncommon

It is neither, Mark, it is simply politically unstable unless there are other factors at play, because it exacerbates discontent when things go wrong.
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>>55450159

Aleppo-Raqqa hwy, yep.
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>>55450012

So the red territory is ISIS? Why don't they encircle the strip? They just have to cut through Nasriyah and reach the coast.
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>>55450083
they must give the camera's to the dunces. they seldom have the camera in focus or aimed at the target to satisfy.
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>>55450208
most people would say being politically unstable is a pretty bad feature of a government

http://www.syrianobserver.com/EN/News/30120/Mass_Youth_Arrests_Damascus_Curb_Regime_Recruitment_Shortage
in other news, Sunni youth hiding from regimes forced conscription
so much for Assad's popularity

and in even more news, reports of explosions at Damascus international airport, maybe Israeli airstrikes
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>>55450399

Red is SAA.
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>>55450399
You realise the 'coast' in the map is lake jabbul?
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>>55450575
>Sunnis being cowards
no surprises here
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>>55449824
>taking one line on Wikipedia as the final say
But Mark, anyone would take wikipedia's say over yours. It has sources too, go argue with them, why don't you?

>we are talking about participation in government, the extent to which Assad/the Syrian state did or dod not court Sunni tribes is not the point, they did not and do not occupy high level positions in the state apparatus, because those are reserved for Alawis
They are reserved for loyal tribes, which due to how arabic tribal relationships work happened to be other Alawi tribes. The amount of "courting", as you put it, matters because the situation is strictly a political one. To see that, one has only to ask themselves a question: if there existed a hostile Alawite tribe, would it find itself in the government, just because they share the same religion? Obviously no, politics are not stupid like that, just like if sunnis ruled the government, hostile sunni tribes wouldn't be admitted to the government.

But one doesn't even need to ask that question, as there's nothing in the situation calling to analyse it as a conflict of religions and not political struggle between different tribes, that happen to follow different religions. RELIGION IS NOT ENFORCED BY THE GOVERNMENT, PERIOD.

>because firstly you say, only Assads tribe and not Alawites generally are important and represented in government, then you say all Syria including Sunni and their tribes are part of Assads powerbase
Because all of that is correct. The only contradiction exists in your brain. There are different levels of importance and having political agreements with all the other tribes doesn't mean all of them can get into the government.

>are the same ones now allied with IS
Assad still has sunnis fighting for them, thanks for making it obvious again that all of it is about some sunni tribes's fight for the power seat.

cont.
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>>55450399
SAA is red
this map makes it clearer >>55445816
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>>55450650
>RELIGION IS NOT ENFORCED BY THE GOVERNMENT
probably because it's a secular government.
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>>55449824

>good job too because you were incapable of it and can't understand even the reason I posed the question, which is to demonstrate that this model of government (a religious minority ruling a religious majority) is so uncommon because it is bad, not that its bad because its uncommon
Of course neither me nor anyone else should understand this kind of non-reasoning, lol. Things are bad not because they're common or uncommon. I'd even say, good things are less common on average, lol. Show how this is specifically bad or shut up. Assad's government is specifically good because it doesn't enforce religion onto people.

Point is, Assad = secular.

STAY MAD
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>>55444763
>>55445893
what is her name?
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>>55450516
>VIDEO: (#Aleppo) FSA's Liwaa Soqur al-Jabl destroy regime 106mm cannon with TOW, killing crew & fighters around it

Another one from today.
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>>55450575
>most people would say being politically unstable is a pretty bad feature of a government

*sigh* There is instability in any system. The only issue, as I pointed out is that that one is fine, and works, but when things go wrong, such as drought, it needs a faster and more careful hand to keep it from falling apart. The UK system is perhaps more stable, but then things have not gone really wrong for centuries...
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>>55450615

Nevermind mate, I was ill-informed. I assumed it was a larger body of water, so one could basically capture Nasriyah and continue straight to the water, thereby cutting off the strip from the rest.

>>55450588

Oh shit, well that's not very good. Is there a bigger map? Now I understand they would attack from Buqayshah, trying to widen the strip.
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The first """"Qatari"""" casualty in Yemen.
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>>55450683

Thanks, but that map's still too small, honestly.
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Channel 2 Israel just said that Israel attacked the international airport of Damascus. wtf?

Twitter says:

>"Rebel Commando team" of insurgents in the conference room inside the port and destroyed everything in the room
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>>55451105
Looks like Basketball American
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>>55451168
> Israeli TV station just said that Israel attacked Damascus Airport....

>Israel attacked

Wait, are you sure you got that right?
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>>55450800
Zelal Al Morshed
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hello my racist fellow brothers ^^
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>>55451168
Only link I can find is SOHR, can you confirm another source?
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>>55451321
Stop with the boats you faggots
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>>55451294
I bet her cunt smells amazing
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>>55450956
>arguing with Mark
>*sigh*

Arguing with Mark is reserved for those who can enjoy his idiocy, lol. I like to observe how he tries to push the same retarded logic of "looks like there's a defined group sharing the same religion on one side of an issue = means it's a religious division", as if he thinks it may convince anyone. Making him repeat it again and again while he convulsively tries to clean his shitty pants (soiled when he claimed that secularism is about individuals not praising god) is such a fun.

In the end I'll just laugh and leave him repeating the same thing over and over again, even though he lost the argument the moment he opened his mouth, as was evident to everyone watching. But he'll probably convince himself that he won anyway, lol.
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>>55451049

Op has all the maps.
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>>55451197
I think it's nigerian.
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>>55451367
I laugh AT him, not with.
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>>55451346
i heard that carriers won hell of a money over refrugees, it means that the ride never ends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTgwLKRPQF8
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>>55451279
>>Israel attacked
Self defended :^)

Conflicting reports rebels/Israel
>Foreign reports the assault of the Israeli air force in the international airport of Damascus

>>55451342
Rotter:
http://rotter.net/forum/scoops1/264101.shtml

Iranian site is also reporting this but 4chin won't let me post it.
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>>55450650
the source for the particular line you mentioned is a book which it doesn't link to

it happened to be other Alawite tribes because they share the same religion!
the reason, again, that Alawite tribes are not hostile to each other, is because they share the same religion and have to band together against the Sunni, again proving that the Alawites as a religious community are ruling Syria

I said it two or three times already, but I'll say it again, just because a government isn't a theocracy it doesn't mean it is secular
You know Syria even allows some shariah law for Muslims actually? Most Arab/Muslim governments allow shariah for personal/family matters. There is not any government in the Muslim world that is properly secular because they all have to deal with the role of religion, and allow it some say.

>different levels of importance
if you create this false understanding of Assad tribe and say Sunni tribes
why can't you understand it for Assad tribe and the Alawite religious community?
Why can you not understand that it goes Assad tribe > Alawite > others
with Assad being the pinnacle, but Alawites having most other positions of importance due to them being the religious community with positive discrimination?
because that would mean admitting that Assad is not secular, he discriminates on religious grounds

He has an ever diminishing minority of Sunnis, proving that what it is really about is the majority (80%) Sunni wanting to overthrow the minority Alawite rulers

>>55450782
>Things are bad not because they're common or uncommon
that's exactly what I was telling you in that post, and which you failed to understand in your previous post, try actually reading what I wrote
governments like Assad are uncommon because they are bad, not bad because of being uncommon or common

>>55450635
>not wanting to fight for a dictator who murdered 300k of your fellow citizens
>hiding from a dictator army who murdered 300k
>being a coward
nah
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>>55451466
>>55451342
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http://www.tabnak.ir/fa/news/546615/%25D8%25A7%25D9%2586%25D9%2581%25D8%25AC%25D8%25A7%25D8%25B1-%25D8%25AF%25D8%25B1-%25D9%2586%25D8%25B2%25D8%25AF%25DB%258C%25DA%25A9%25DB%258C-%25D9%2581%25D8%25B1%25D9%2588%25D8%25AF%25DA%25AF%25D8%25A7%25D9%2587-%25D8%25A8%25DB%258C%25D9%2586%25E2%2580%258E%25D8%25A7%25D9%2584%25D9%2585%25D9%2584%25D9%2584%25DB%258C-%25D8%25AF%25D9%2585%25D8%25B4%25D9%2582%3Futm_source%3Dtwitterfeed%26utm_medium%3Dtwitter&usg=ALkJrhiP80QdbUEHaPuwqk7oaC4IzTmmCQ
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>>55444512
Why is John Kerry regarded so poorly? I mean, sure, he seems a bit like some old slapstick comedian, maybe Leslie Nielsen. But what are his biggest crimes?
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Use the hashtag guys..

https://twitter.com/hashtag/damascus?f=tweets&vertical=news
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>>55451197
Inbreeding with slaves will do that to a nation.
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>>55451367
This
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>Syrian sources claim Israel staged rare airstrike (6pm as opposed to overnight) at #Damascus intl airport to stop Iranian weapons shipment

https://twitter.com/DannyNis/status/664510354064584704

Welp, it's been nice hanging with you all.

WWIII IMMINENT
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>>55450901
that video is old as shit
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>#BreakingNews UNCONFIRMED Rebels conducted a special operation inside #Damascus airport. Assassinated many #Iran|ian & SAA officers. #Syria

https://twitter.com/RamiAlLolah/status/664498837499809792
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>>55451405
Wtf are Nigerians doing in Yemen?

>>55451819
Probably just some bad intel
They mistook it for an orphanage or a hospital
Expect an apology soon
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>>55451905
Blame Hadi:

https://twitter.com/HadiAlabdallah/status/664501601919475713
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>>55451819
IDS EGSGALADIG
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>>55451935
Wait, so the rebels attacked Damascus intl. airport with Israeli air cover?
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>>55450956
you say there is instability in any system then go on to point out one very stable country (UK)
if a country is unstable, it is not fine and working, it is only waiting until the inevitable fallout, and because of the model of government in this instance, it is exponentially worse than any other type of instability

>>55451741
>>55451418
>>55451367
>shitposting
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>>55451466
>"Self defended"
Just like Germany in 1939. ;^) kek

Thanks for the links, Israel-bro.

This _is_ disturbing news... what are your leaders playing at?

Who's been in control of the airport up to now? The Syrian government?
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>>55451935
>believing a single thing that Rami Al Lolah says.
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>#BREAKING: Several reports of an #Israel'i airstrike on #Damascus airport in #Syria
https://twitter.com/AmichaiStein1/status/664509401152274432

>@InstantReporter Massive fires burning at #Damascus airport after #Israel|i airforce bombed it. #Syria
https://twitter.com/InstantReporter/status/664510167762001921

>[PICS] #Breaking #Israil Channel 2: Israil jets have hit targets inside #Damascus Airport this morning.
https://twitter.com/tahtakuslar/status/664512174400905217

>Breaking: Israeli air force has struck targets in #Damascus, #Syria, possibly Iranian weapon shipments at the airport
https://twitter.com/Global_Defence/status/664511810024927232

Nothing confirmed yet, of course.
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>>55451528
Translated:
>Foreign reports the assault of the Israeli air force in the international airport of Damascus

>Reporting strong explosions were heard and smoke was rising above the surrounding areas of the airport. The news is not verified.
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>>55452014
>Wait, so the rebels attacked
Correction: Reports of Israeli air strikes on an area around Damascus International Airport

it\s on the tweet

idk, not really buying it.. waiting for more info

captcha fish
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>>55451935
>assassinated Iranian officers
>Iranian weapon shipments

Its ogre
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>>55452136
There's now a few separate #Damascus twitter posts saying the IDF-AF hit the airport....

https://twitter.com/hashtag/damascus?f=tweets&vertical=news
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>>55451474
>the source for the particular line you mentioned is a book which it doesn't link to
Your problem, lol.

>the reason, again, that Alawite tribes are not hostile to each other, is because they share the same religion and have to band together against the Sunni, again proving that the Alawites as a religious community are ruling Syria
That's exactly what I wrote. Due to how things work in arabic tribe relationships, the rulling alawite tribe chose other more loyal tribes, which happened to be alawite too. They're not ruling "as a religious community". They're ruling as a political union. There's nothing religious about their politics.

>There is not any government in the Muslim world that is properly secular because they all have to deal with the role of religion, and allow it some say.
Which exactly makes your distinction useless. Assad government is a secular as it gets in Middle East, period.

>wall of false already debunked text

>He has an ever diminishing minority of Sunnis, proving that people die when they are killed, bribed by Qatar and other countries to defect, and generally afraid that the government will lose
FTFY.

>uncommon because they are bad
But that's exactly wrong, idiot. Bad things are common, try actually reading what I wrote.

Again, that's non-logic. There are uncommon good things too. Demonstrate what about it is bad, or GTFO.
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>>55451474
And yeah, the obvious.

Assad = secular.

STAY MAD
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>>55451944
>Wtf are Nigerians doing in Yemen?

Mercenary activities I guess.
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>>55451935
Israel pls stop
y u do dis?
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>>55452088

wtf is habbidin?!
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>>55452059
Looks like the socrates head.
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This from an hour ago...

>Rebels conducted a special operation inside #Damascus airport. Assassinated many #Iran|ian & SAA officers. #Syria
https://twitter.com/houla_homs/status/664499720048541697

Sooo rebels in airport this morning. Later Israel bombs airport for Iranian weapons shipment.

Yeah, better wait for more info.
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>>55452352
Its not their fault, they are controlled by Jews
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>>55452008
WE DUN GOOFD XDXDXD
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>>55452262
>>55452411
>The IAF attacked an arms convoy was on its way to Lebanon and moved through the port in Damascus, along with the rebels launched an offensive on the field and managed to get in
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THE TIGER ON SYRIAN NATIONAL TV
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>>55451935

does israel WANT a 2nd shoa with the iranians or what? fucking retards they are
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You should ban from elections this liberal republican chick that told about "hard policy" with Russia.
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>>55452386
IDF-AF seems to have decided to bomb Damascus airport. Reasons and targets unclear, but hopefully Russia will retaliate by bombing Israel's nuclear storage depot.
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>>55452088
how could le merchant do dis??!?!?!?
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Debka file report...

Syrian media report Israeli air strikes near Damascus
>There was no comment from Israel on the report by Syrian media that the Israeli air force had conducted several surveillance and bombing sorties over the military airfield near Damascus during Wednesday afternoon and evening. Witnesses reported blasts and plumes of smoke and flames emanating from the reported location.
http://www.debka.com/newsupdate/13613/Syrian-media-report-Israeli-air-strikes-near-Damascus

Still unconfirmed.
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>>55452441
So it is becoming clear your government is funding/controlling them at last... I'm only surprised we learn this now, instead of in 2050...
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>>55452466
Syrian anon, are you an alawite?
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>>55452467
Israel has done far worse to contries much stronger than Iran or Syria with zero consequence
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good thing there's an anti nuke bunker under my house
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>>55452466
Hi friend. please go to Damascus airport and livestream for us. Marhaba .
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>>55451474
Yes Mark, hiding is being a coward. And those were not fellow citizens. They´re islamist like you. I don´t really care for them dying. And if civilians die it´s their fault for creating this useless conflict.
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Israeli officials are denying it was them...

...which proves nothing as they would likely do so anyway.

Apparently the blast was massive, from the pic looks like whatever it was set off the fuel farm in a BLEVE.
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>Syrian report: Iranian missile shipment which arrived in Damascus from Iran plane bombed the evening when the trucks came out of the field.
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>Pro opposition SLN news reported blasts/fire/power cut and stoppage of flights at #Damascus airport at dawn
https://twitter.com/AlbinSzakola/status/664513529899122688
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>>55452291
your problem really, since it can't stand as a valuable source for you

any relationship is based on loyalty, not only those of Arab tribes (and you know nothing about tribal relationships and how loyalty factors in because if you did you would expound upon this to actually make a valid point)
and the reason the Alawite Arab tribes are loyal to each other and bound together, is because they Alawite, they are all the same religion

I see you are just ignoring my next point since you can't rebut it, oh well
all of it is entirely true and you have failed to debunk it

oh, the Sunnis are so loyal to Assad that a bit of money and a fear of losing means they won't sign up for the glorious SAA? you are contradicting yourself again

as for your last bit, you missed out the important "governments like Assad" bit
if you are intending to ask what about Assad's style of government and governing is bad, I think his current predicament should really illustrate that
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>How can #Israel jets have quietly bombed #Damascus today? How about the #Russian S-400 and Flankers deployed in #Syria ? Deal of impunity?

ISRAEL HAS INVENTED QUIETBOMBS. WE'RE FUCKED. EVACUATE EVERYTHING.
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>>55452739
Moon of Alabama @MoonofA 2m2 minutes ago

Moon of Alabama Retweeted Max Abrahms

No. Fake news and silly psy-ops ...
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>>55451342
http://www.syriahr.com/en/2015/11/explosions-occur-in-the-vicinity-of-the-international-airport-of-damascus-while-about-40-airstrikes-target-the-city-of-darayya/

This link does not seem to confirm a terroist attack at the airport. rather it seems to detail roosi eagles taking a dump
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>More- Syrian source confirms #Israel struck targets near #Damascus airport. Witnesses reporting multiple blasts

https://twitter.com/LisaDaftari/status/664516646417993728
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>>55452847
There is a difference in putting members of your religion into important positions in the gouverment and wanting anyone not part of it dead.
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>>55452856

That's about Douma. This Israeli airport thing started this morning with FSA rustling jimmies and has apparently escalated just now.
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>>55452852
Maybe they used their usual Jewhadi delivery system, we don know yet
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>>55451935
AS STATED BEFORE RAMI HAS BEEN DISREDITED TIME AND TIME AGAIN> HE HAS NEVER ONCE TOLD THE TRUTH> IT'S PROBABLY A KIKE PEBKAK
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>>55452980

She's media. Maybe Channel 2 not sure.
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>>55452993
This.
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A week following a supposed Israeli strike on a weapons-envoy in Syria, media outlets associated with Syrian President Bashar Assad reported Wednesday night of another Israeli airstrike in the country.

According to the reports, Israeli aircraft carried out the strike adjacent to the Damascus airport. Yet it was not clear whether the target of the attack was a weapons shipment, or an alternate target, such as an Iran-backed terror cell operating against Israel.

http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Syrian-media-reports-Israeli-airstrike-near-Damascus-airport-432733
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>>55452993
Well it does say unconfirmed in caps.
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>>55452984
>putting members of your religion into important positions
You mean:
>putting members of your TRIBE into important positions
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>>55452984
what an irony because >wanting anyone not part of it dead is exactly the policy Assad and the Alawites have been playing through since the war started
right from the beginning it's 'Assad or we burn the country'

going for dinner now, brb
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>>55452847
>your problem really, since it can't stand as a valuable source for you
Nah, your problem, because anyone would take what it says over your word anyway.

>and the reason the Alawite Arab tribes are loyal to each other and bound together, is because they Alawite, they are all the same religion
I've been agreeing with that two times already. But the point is that the source of loyalty doesn't matter. It's loyalty that matters for the clan in charge, not religion. If there were unloyal alawites, they wouldn't have been in the government, that's all.

>I see you are just ignoring my next point since you can't rebut it, oh well
You mean I can't rebut what's already rebutted. Indeed.

>all of it is entirely true and you have failed to debunk it
All of it is entirely false and I have succeeded in debunking it. Stay mad.

>if you are intending to ask what about Assad's style of government and governing is bad, I think his current predicament should really illustrate that
His current predicament, namely an attempt by US/Israel to perform a regime change, happened to other countries regardless of their goodness. In this case it happened to a good secular government of Assad. You should stop with non-arguments and finally demonstrate what's bad in it or GTFO.

Point is, Assad = secular.
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>>55453268
>brb
Take your time, or better yet, choke and die!
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>>55453268
I hope you eat something healthy. You´re pretty fat already. And you propably don´t go outside a lot. Do you actually live with your parents or on neet bux now?

Please explain further what you mean by that. Because as far as i know every religious and ethnic group was living peacefully side by side before the civil war. And the moderate rebels are sunni exclusive, implement sharia law where they rule and destroy churches.
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Leith Abou Fadel @leithfadel 4m4 minutes ago

Literally, no one in Damascus is reporting Israeli airstrikes, only Israelis in Israel. Lol
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>#IAF attacked weapons convoy headed fm #Damascus airport 2 #Lebanon while rebels launched offensive on airport.
https://twitter.com/lill_the_swiss/status/664518660694876160

>@PubLeakCHAT also reporting rebels managed 2 break into #Damascus airport. No confirms fm other sources.
https://twitter.com/lill_the_swiss/status/664519007555485696
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnVwjw2Un4k

пpoигpaл чoт
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>>55453447
i noticed that :D

let's watch it unveil and see how the shitposting from news page to news page spreads
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>>55453447
>no one in Damascus is reporting Israeli airstrikes, only Israelis in Israel.

http://syria.liveuamap.com/en/2015/11-november-idf-jets-has-struck-targets-at-airport-in-damascus

Correct on this. We'll just have to see what develops here.
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Is it true that there will be a SDF offensive to capture Raqqa soon?
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>>55453403
Do jersey even have a prison?
I bet they didn't jail him because they didn't want to give him a ticket to england prisons.
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>>55453403
to be fair the very purpose of baathism in syria is to prevent a sunni-led theocracy that would oppress minorities and enforce islamic law, and a noble purpose it is too. If this means they exclude Sunnis then fair enough IMO, since they tend to be scum.
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>Israeli official tells 0404 news that report that Israel struck sites at airport in #Damascus is false. #Syria
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>>55453362
butthurt

>>55453323
of course the source of loyalty matters, and you just before took the position that it did, because you tried to assert that it was based on tribal loyalities rather than the Alawite religion
if there were unloyal Alawites from Assad's tribe, too, they wouldn't be in government, this isn't the point
the point is that the majority in positions of power are Alawite, and regardless of the other factors that resulted in them getting there, they are there instead of a Sunni, because Sunnis are not appointed to positions of power in general
that is religious discrimination and therefore not a secular policy, meaning Assads rule is built on the opposite of secularism

you didn't debunk anything except yourself

US/Israeli regime change, usual BS from you guys. It was a popular revolution of the Syrian people (the majority Sunni), nothing else.
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>>55453447

Leith ruining the fun again. Sometimes I hate Leith. Then again, it's so easy to copypasta all his shit.
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>>55453682
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-R580MmWKs
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>>55453144
It's a poor excuse for him being a poor source of credible info
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thats as much news there is to this and some twitter feeds
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Dutch newspaper ( De Telegraaf ) now reports Israel bombs Syria, I can only read headline because of paywall.
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>>55453447
>Literally, no one in Damascus is reporting Israeli airstrikes, only Israelis in Israel. Lol

But why anyone would fake something like that, make no sense.
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>>55453788
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Koqlir8kK-o
this one is better desu
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>#Allegedl images from #Damascus international airport (duty free shops) after (air) strikes today
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>>55453682
>of course the source of loyalty matters, and you just before took the position that it did, because you tried to assert that it was based on tribal loyalities rather than the Alawite religion
Of course the source of loyalty doesn't matter. And my position is and was that it's based on tribal loyalties that due to how arabic politics work were the loyalties that formed over religious relationships.

>if there were unloyal Alawites from Assad's tribe, too, they wouldn't be in government, this isn't the point
No it's exactly the point as it's loyalty, not Alawite religion that decides whether someone will be in the government, contrary to what your initial braindead claims. Good to see that you now try to adjust them to more mimic some sanity.

>the point is that the majority in positions of power are Alawite, and regardless of the other factors that resulted in them getting there, they are there instead of a Sunni, because Sunnis are not appointed to positions of power in general
What do you mean "instead", lol? That would imply that sunnies are just as loyal to Assad's tribe as his own people, but aren't chosen anyway, which is simply not what's happening. It's sad that in arabic world you can't trust loyalty of tribes with different religion, but that's entirely not Assad's fault, just like it's not his fault that he can't impose full absense of Sharia law, which he, incidentally, would have done if he was religion-driven like you claim. But no, he's a politician and a wise one at that.

>religious discrimination
No, *loyalty based recruitment policy.

>discrimination
SJW, pls go.

>you didn't debunk anything except yourself
You mean, except you. Didn't try to debunk anyone else yet. Debunking you was enough.

Popular revolution of the Syrian people, usual BS from you guys. It was a US/Israeli regime change nothing else.

Point is, Assad = secular.
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>>55454173
Bigger pic
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>>55454175
>unironically arguing with jersey mark
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>>55454054
i can't find any syrian media reporting on it... but yeah doing searches in english... but it is weird that israel media reports on it saying it was syrian media, there is no syrian media reporting, so why is it weird like that... if damascus was bombed by israel with russia flying around, i think they would try to make a huge deal out of it, but yeah waiting for more info
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>>55454273
could be any one of a billiongorrillion places in syria. nothing that says damascus international ?
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>>55454318
I'm enjoying his buttmaddness. Why not?

>inb4 he says this is shitposting
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There was lighting, there was thunder, and the stars went out....

It's habbening, it's gonna rain. May be pretty intense. Dunno how much will fall. whoo hoo
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>>55453682
>butthurt
Not butthurt at all, it would just be incredibly amusing for you to choke to death.

I'd write to your parents asking if they recorded it, than ask them to put it on liveleak. :^) because it's funny.
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>>55445030
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>>55454545
Faggot.
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>>55454587
Dago cocksucker.
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press tv 10 mins ago

http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/11/11/437260/Syria-Israel-Damacus-Daesh-ISIS

Israeli warplanes have struck targets near the international airport in the Syrian capital, Damascus, Syrian media says.

The reports said the attack happened Wednesday morning.

There were no immediate comments from the Syrian government on the issue.
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>>55454545
>Mark
>Rare
You're new here.
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>>55454443
Enjoy the rain, hope the krimpvarkies will do.
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>>55453596
The worst thing is we don´t execute people for treason anymore. It´s terrible how mark can get aways with being such a massive virgin autist and supporting inhumane terrorists.
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>>55454716
Why russia dont just put some S300 around Syria to repell jewish rats?
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>>55454173
>>55454273
>Israel bombing duty free shops
Typical Jewry.
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If anyone in the idle time is interested about reading italian news they just busted one of those guys with the purple kippah for money laundering 500k €.

http://www.ansa.it/sito/notizie/cronaca/2015/11/11/sequestro-di-beni-per-500mila-euro-allex-abate-di-montecassino_4facc399-79ba-4555-b453-784468689c72.html

http://www.ansa.it/english/news/2015/11/11/some-500000-euros-seized-from-ex-montecassino-abbot-2_01163bda-9be8-49d3-bf94-89cfe5a37601.html
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>>55454377
Well, if anyone had seen the Damascus airport more than twice they can confirm this.
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Three claims made in the past few hours:

1. 8 ton VBIED explosion at Deir Ezzor
2. Israelis have bombed Damascus Airport
3. Rebels have penetrated the airport killing various Syrian and Iranian military officials
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Any Londoners here?

There's an Anti-Assad / pro-rebel rally this Saturday, anybody up for meeting up and opposing it in some way?

http://www.syriauk.org/
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M'eh seems to have died down. We'll get more later if there's anything to it. Time for food!
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>>55454830
>>55454830
They trusted the Jews.
They didn't listen.

Russia could have just given some armaments to Hezbollah and not have to deal with Israel ever, but instead they decided be nice.
Because they didn't listen.
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>>55454996
molotovs
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>>55454830
i know.. that would keep all the rats out... maybe in the future.. im sure hezbollah's help won't be unnoticed to syria, russia, iran
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why won't china parade it's planes ?
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>>55454545
HELLO NEWFAG
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>>55454664
Butthurt newfag.
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>>55454465
>>55454318
>>55454433
>>55453596

>>butthurt

>>55453788
what is this lovely song about?

>>55453403
>this silly meme that im fat when ive always been mostly skinny
lel

yes, it does happen that you are at peace when a tyrant has his boot on your neck
its true that the rebels are mostly sunni only, but who do you want them to recruit?
the pro-Assad Alawi/Druze/Christians??
Sunni are the majority population after all

>>55454175
it does, and you changed your position
the reason the Alawi are loyal to each other is because they are Alawi, one religious grouping, not because of tribal loyalties, the religious commonality between the Alawi tribes is what binds them

What I mean 'instead' is that if the government was actually secular, whether someone was a Sunni or Alawi wouldn't matter
there have actually been Sunnis in high positions in Syria, so your constant assertion that Sunnis can't be loyal or be trusted is wrong
what these Sunnis prove is the exception to the rule, that mostly, Sunnis are excluded and cannot gain high positions because of religious discrimination in favour of Alawis
you are continuing what you did before here, you are saying "hurrr assad discriminates between religions but its because sunnis are not loyal or whatever" and thereby continuing to prove that Assad is not secular despite your shitposting

Your next point doesn't make any sense, he is perfectly capable of abolishing sharia law in any aspect, he doesn't because he isn't actually secular, he uses religion as a tool

loyalty based recruitment policy that just happens to only recruit from the Alawi religious group
could it be that Alawis are the only group generally loyal to Assad? Could that be because he is the same religion as them? Could it be because he is the same religion as them he gave them advantages and power and therefore they are more loyal to him? I think it could be!

Popular revolution of the Syrian people, it was
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