ITT: Tell me anything you believe and I'll tell you why it's a bad idea to believe it
atheism
that life has no purpose ;_;
>>55443564
Minarchism is the best form of government.
IHOP sounds like a great idea right now
>>55443620
Purpose and meaning is relative. One can still live for themselves, if nothing else.
>>55443637
Only if a system of checks and balances exists to prevent the government from becoming tyrannical while everyone believes they're being left alone
>>55443680
no, there are niggers there
>>55443739
You promised you'd tell me that its a bad idea to believe in Minarchism. I was expecting a debate. I want my money back.
>>55443821
Alright, what form of minarchism do you believe to be the best? I can tell you that minarchism certainly didn't work in America when the Articles of Confederation were still about. I can tell you that minarchism certainly isn't working for Africa right now. I can tell you that the minarchism that you're most accustomed to wanting (due to being an American) won't ever work because the 14th Amendment exists.
I can't give you back your money, I spent it.
>>55443564
I believe that eating 6000 calories daily while maintaining a sedantary lifestyle is bad for your physical health.
I believe that the holocaust happened more or less as the historical consensus says it did
>>55443564
One may do whatever he wants, but he cant want whatever he wants
>>55443564
I believe that each molecule of water is made from 2 hydrogen atoms and one oxygen atom
immigration is needed to grow the economy and pay taxes to pay for the aging population
>>55443564
i believe that the #1 priority of any rational modern society should be to subsidize research into discovering biological "immortality" so that we could all fulfill our true potential as human beans
Europeans are superior, from the northern Mediterranean people to the Nordic people.
>>55444074
why doesn't the aging population pay for itself?
I believe faith, is the best defence against mental illnesses.
For example I have faith I will make it to work & I'll achieve what is required
>>55443947
it's only bad for you if you don't have 8 tapeworms. If you want to consume the energy of a microcosm, you should actually be supplying a microcosm.
>>55443997
You can never be too sure of anything, the Jews might have hijacked the media and carried out an incredibly expensive and extensive campaign of disinformation
>>55444070
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_water
>>55444074
only if the aging population didn't reproduce and create a sufficiently large non-aged population
>>55444107
Have fun with rampant overpopulation
>>55444138
Aren't those the same people who were fucking around in huts and caves when non-whites invented science and math?
I believe death will liberate me.
>>55444192
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>>55444107
>human beans
Kek
>>55444192
The best defense against illness is medication. Faith doesn't work for everyone, so it's a non-reliable medication. A placebo.
>>55444277
Death won't liberate you. It will change you. And you have no idea what that entails. It could just as easily trap you.
I believe in fate
Hitler was right all along and now we all see what he was talking about it.
Bad because everyone labels you a nazi if you say you don't hate him..
>>55444385
I know one thing, i'll be dead.
>>55443564
Evolution. Fyte me nigga
Free speech is a good idea
Absurdism. If you can't meta think metathought, then you're incapable of reflection, and therefore a waste of human evolution in the post-postmodern world.
>>55443564
Wind is caused by the motion of trees.
>>55444251
>Have fun with rampant overpopulation
really is that your argument? I thought you were here to show your superior rationale and not to be educated by others...
I believe that the core of misery and suffering is a sense of entitlement.
>>55444400
Fate is a worthless belief unless you believe you can use it to predict the future. Otherwise, you're just calling a very colorful form of hindsight "fate" and you think it's much deeper than it actually is.
>>55444455
Don't believe in generalizations
>>55444473
You don't know if you can even perceive death. If consciousness is the byproduct of having a sensory experience, what will happen if you have no sensory experience?
>>55444487
What manner of evolution? Darwin? Lamarck? Nintendo?
>>55444549
Not if you want government to function quickly. Dissenters slow the processes.
>>55444616
If you can't get laid you're a waste of human evolution. Your thoughts have nothing to do with it.
>>55444622
Then why does wind blow on Mars?
>>55444695
If you invent immortality, at what point do you begin to cap the human population? You do realize the implications of a planet of immortals who create more immortals, right? At some point, there will be an unsustainable population, and that will lead to widespread suffering. Do you believe it's the goal of society to work towards THAT end?
>>55443564
I believe that all drugs should not be legalised (not to be confused with decriminalised), not because of the effects that it would have on the user-- each to their own-- but the effects that it would have on other people.
Example: Drinking and driving.
Another example: Unwanted secondhand smoking (cigarettes, cannabis, etc)
Tell me why my perspective is bad.
>>55444622
The motion of the trees is caused by wind, which is caused by variations in air pressure, which is caused by climate.
>>55444770
>Fate is a worthless belief unless you believe you can use it to predict the future
Fate is more of a passive belief in the future, really. Whatever happens, happens. There is no other way a thing could have happened -- else it wouldn't be fate.
It's basically tautological, and thus, nonsensical.
>>55444251
>You can never be too sure of anything
that's not a case for why it is a "bad reason" to believe the holocaust happened, unless the chances of the jews hijacking everything are as good or greater than the chances that it really did happen
>>55444799
There's no difference between legalization and decriminalization from a purely practical standpoint. If you have a law and you don't enforce it, it's like you don't even have a law. Decriminalize cannabis and people will smoke it in the streets. In their homes. Near you. Legalize it and they'll do the same thing.
>>55444869
Fate implies that a divergence from a perceived future is impossible - that there is only one way forward. That's nonsense when you consider that people have the ability to make choices. And even though those choices might bring you to the same place (or same perceived place), it's fucking stupid to call that fate. Because the way the person got there was different.
>>55444969
Okay, how about this: it's a bad idea to believe the holocaust happened "more or less as historians say it did" unless you've given thought to the alternative. Who are these historians? Who presented that information to you? Do you have an ulterior motive for your belief?
>>55444770
>If you can't get laid you're a waste of human evolution. Your thoughts have nothing to do with it.
Prolonging the human race isn't the point of human evolution, it's a consequence of it's unbiased nature.
21st century, 100% of the population should be capable of self-criticism, because they are not, the world is fucked. People who don't want to know they're wrong will be the downfall of humanity.
>>55443564
I believe that if you focus on developing yourself, you can become a better person.
>>55445089
Okay, let's take decriminalization out of the picture. What do you think of my opinion then? Do my views violate responsible individuals' lives, or am I being realistic of the effects this would have on society? (increased deaths of innocents by irresponsible people on drugs, for example)
Islam is a force for good in the world
OP enjoys the company of women.
On a serious note the best government is one that rules the least.
>>55445224
you are already enlightened. No striving is necessary.
>>55445097
Those people who don't want to know they're wrong are a force for evolution. If the barbarians win, they make a barbarian nation. Then they make a barbarian planet, dominated by a race of barbarians.
You can't argue that human evolution has a "point" without sufficient basis on who set that point. Was it you? Or does god exist? Or is what you believe to be the core of human nature? Maybe it's just your human nature. If you want to evolve, you have to defeat the barbarians.
>>55445224
"better" is relative to the person doing the comparing. Better than who? Better than the person you used to be? Better at what? Not better at living longer, I presume. Every second you spend developing yourself is a second you could have spent doing something else, like being that better person, instead of just training to be that better person.
>>55445283
I don't know how to answer your question, because drug-related death in America is different than it is in your country. I say if you put it to a vote, everyone will stop bitching eventually, regardless of outcome.
>>55443564
That a western society is better of muslim free.
>>55445443
Okay. Thanks anyway.
>>55444770
>If you invent immortality, at what point do you begin to cap the human population? You do realize the implications of a planet of immortals who create more immortals, right? At some point, there will be an unsustainable population, and that will lead to widespread suffering. Do you believe it's the goal of society to work towards THAT end?
Babies first thoughts about this issue I see..
Imagine you have a pill that can make you live to 10000 years, but in order to take this pill you must perform a vasectomy or something that you can revert later on. Meanwhile you have now 10000 years to try to figure out:
a)how to maximize resource production in order to sustain a 100x larger human population on this same planet
b)how to colonize new spaces/planets
c)how to maximize the space you occupy on this planet
d)basically any other problem related to overpopulation, maybe figure out new ideas to solve it
This is boring, the technical issues are easily dismantled when talking about this issue and they always come from people who haven't given a thought about it previously... I was hoping for some philosophical/moral rebuttal, i'm disappoint
>>55443620
I believe it is impossible to bugger a hedgehog.
I believe that the worse an idea is the better it is to follow it.
>>55445325
It's only a force for good if there are no non-Muslims left. Islam is a religion of conquerors.
>>55445366
see >>55443926
>>55445499
Maybe, but not if you're also willing to discard Muslim ideas and Muslim ways of thinking. That doesn't mean you should agree with them, mind you.
>>55445546
Why do you need to invent this pill to figure out the answers to those problems? Aren't there enough thinkers on the planet already? Why should you make them all live 10000 years?
If you want to talk morals, fine. if everyone is immortal, at what age do you let them retire?
>>55445617
That idea is so bad that you might just have to follow it.
Ideas are by their nature fallible and susceptible to black swans
>>55443564
I believe OP is not a faggot. :^)
>>55445740
A black swan is only a black swan if you don't see it coming.
>>55445848
It's irresponsible to believe anything on the internet. I could have my mouth filled with a thousand cocks as I type this.
>>55445443
>Those people who don't want to know they're wrong are a force for evolution. If the barbarians win, they make a barbarian nation. Then they make a barbarian planet, dominated by a race of barbarians.
You can't argue that human evolution has a "point" without sufficient basis on who set that point. Was it you? Or does god exist? Or is what you believe to be the core of human nature? Maybe it's just your human nature. If you want to evolve, you have to defeat the barbarians.
Not saying at all there is a point to evolution, that you saying if a person can't get laid then they're a waste of human evolution. That's an assertion for a goal-oriented view of evolution.
We've reached a point in human history where we are reversing eras of thought. 21st century post-postmodernism goes against postmodernism by becoming sincere about irony. This sincere irony is what makes moral development a key aspect in contemporary western society. The cause of mankind's demise will be the people who are incapable of thinking rationally become the majority, which they have become.
>>55445685
>Why do you need to invent this pill to figure out the answers to those problems? Aren't there enough thinkers on the planet already?
What are you even saying, noone is concerned with that hypothetical because no government is actively subsidizing this like i said on my first post. Therefore, noone is trying to figure out the answers to those irrelevant problems, i just gave you a few answers, i don't think there is a need to go technical like how to make a gallon of water produce double the meat or whatever...
>Why should you make them all live 10000 years?
Why should you condemn them to die? Without seeking the invention of this pill there is absolutely no reason for me not to shitpost all day and live a nihilist carpediem lifestyle. Why would you not combat your own demise? I believe there would be nothing but benefits to society out of this event.
>If you want to talk morals, fine. if everyone is immortal, at what age do you let them retire?
What does that have to do with morals? You don't need to retire, eventually you will create a society where there will be very little jobs and basic universal income will be the solution.
There is only one valid point against biological immortality that I have heard and you are not making it, instead you are just asking questions. Would you like me to tell you so you can use it next time?
Capitalism is better than Socialism and Anarchism
>>55446107
I don't spend any time thinking about biological immortality, mostly because I think it's not possible. I'm all questions. If I ask enough of them, I'd probably arrive at that one valid point. But since you're getting bored, you might as well tell me.
>>55446047
Consider a future in which the majority of people are incapable of rational thought. Those people are still part of "mankind". And when the last few rational thinkers are gone, those irrationals will still be "mankind". At what point can you declare that mankind has met its demise?
>>55446147
Anarchism is actually the best form of government, but you can't trust people not to fuck it up. Socialism is more fair to a population, but it has to be approached carefully, or the economy will implode. Capitalism is actually the worst of those three, because it lends itself to cyclical economic depression.
It is necessary for citizens to be armed and stay armed in order to protect their freedom. (Not the only thing that protects freedom though)
>>55446368
You take up arms because you believe there is an enemy out there. Obviously, every citizen has a right to defend themselves, and that is why they should be armed. But what should they arm themselves with? That depends on who the enemy is. If their enemy is another citizen with a gun, we could disarm all citizens (and then try really hard to make sure nobody can arm them ever again). If their enemy is a state, then no amount of arms will protect that citizen, unless they plan to form an army and fight an asymmetric war.
>>55443564
i believe that you're a faggot.
>>55446602
Barring weapons of mass destruction from the table, I bet that the amount of small arms in america would make it incredibly difficult to invade and control.
Sure, we couldn't shoot down planes, but planes can't stand on street corners and enforce the law
>>55446677
I kissed a girl once
>>55445930
>A black swan is only a black swan if you don't see it coming.
Shameless self-bump addendum
Better ideas, therefore, are the key to beating black swans
>>55444016
wait, i can do whatever i want but i cant think on my own?
>i dont have free will
HOLP!!!!
>>55446326
>Consider a future in which the majority of people are incapable of rational thought. Those people are still part of "mankind". And when the last few rational thinkers are gone, those irrationals will still be "mankind". At what point can you declare that mankind has met its demise?
You're right, the demise of mankind cannot be pinpointed without bias, it is an artificial assertion.
>>55444770
>Then why does wind blow on Mars?
ok if thats so
>Then why does wind blow on the Moon?
I dont know either, maybe because im not such an idiot and believe everything nasa tells me
>>55446326
>Consider a future in which the majority of people are incapable of rational thought. Those people are still part of "mankind". And when the last few rational thinkers are gone, those irrationals will still be "mankind". At what point can you declare that mankind has met its demise?
You're right, mankind does not have a demise that cannot be made without bias. It is an artificial assertion.
>>55448012
Mars has an atmosphere. Differential solar heating creates pressure systems, and pressure systems cause motion of the atmosphere, because high pressure air flows to low pressure air.
>>55448430
And India has his own healthcare
>>55446326
sorry i went afk for a long time
the most interesting point i saw was a discussion wondering if our brains would be able to survive so much time, or are they just able to wihtstand ~100 years? what is the limit of our brain, and we would have to enhance our brain before all going insane because our brain cant withstand lets say 400 years
i am on little time but i was closing the tabs and i wanted to reply so sorry for broken english im in a rush
>>55443564
Australia isn't that bad
>>55448807
http://m.space.com/16903-mars-atmosphere-climate-weather.html
