I've been thinking for a while now, and I started to consider moving to South America.
Regardless of the internet being the eternal tome of knowledge and dank memes that it is, I want to hear some first hand experiences from over there.
What would be a decent country to move to and why?
What's the normal price of a flat in the aforementioned location?
How are the people there?
Fuck off we're full
>>55440667
Why would you want to leave White Romania for a Shitskin country?
Don't come to Peru there's nothing to do over here, Chile is nice, Argentina is nice.
But you are just a poor romanian so don't bother
>>55440667
>What would be a decent country to move to and why?
Chile, Argentina, Uruguay in general aspects
But you can find god cities in any country
>What's the normal price of a flat in the aforementioned location?
Use real state sites to get an idea
>How are the people there?
There are good and shit people everywhere
>>55440667
Moving to the New World is the best idea ever. We rarely have wars or big conflicts.
>>55440667
nice dubs. Hey wanna trade one of my Galapagos island for your Dracula's castle?
I heard Venezuela is becoming a good place for people like you. Plenty of benefits.
dont come to brazil you are going to get youself killed
what about Uruguay
>free weed
>>55441523
White
90.7%
Black
4.8%
Indigenous
2.4%
Other/none
1.9%
Asian
0.5%
You can't just move to a new country like it's nothing. You'll need to marry a local or get a student/work visa to stay there for more than 3 months. With that being said, Chile is the most developed country on the country. I lived in Bolivia for three months and had loads of fun. It's very cheap, but also very poor
>>55441565
>>55441523
and socialist
>90% whites
millenials whites are the worst kind of people.
>>55441598
>You can't just move to a new country like it's nothing.
>
>
Welcome to Argentina
>>55441663
>socialist
Noting wrong with Socialism in a White country desu senpai
José Mujica was based af
>>55441690
Aren't people just overstaying their tourist visas? I read shitloads of Bolivians stay and work in crap jobs
>>55441747
South Americans shitskins have it even easier, they just need an ID and that's all, and even then there are hundred of thousands of them here illegally
>>55440667
As a general rule, stay south of the tropic of Capricorn if you want to avoid niggers and extreme poverty. Commie parties are in power though, so the economy is going to shit, you might want to stay in Europe.
>>55441711
Socialism attract shitskins
socialism is part of cultural marxism
>>55441907
and the grey countries? blocked and deported in the airport?
>>55441943
>Commie parties are in power though
Herr Macri is coming
>>55441987
He means da new socialism, that socialism that has given good results in the nordic countries
Not the old one
>>55442054
>blocked and deported in the airport?
I fucking wish
>>55441987
http://fortune.com/2015/01/23/uruguay-jose-mujica-economy-capitalism/
>>55442128
> good results in the nordic cuntries
KEKED
>>55440667
Uruguay my man.
I'm only watching this from the distance, ignore me
>>55440899
Because I feel like taking a break from Europe for a while.
>>55441331
A fair trade, good sir!
>>55441598
I have pretty good credentials for job applications, I don't worry about that
The socialism over there is far from the traditional term we're all used to from what my research tells me.
Nobody told me so far what are average prices over there, and google results don't help me too much.
I've thought about Bolivia, Chile or Argentina so far.. Brazil doesn't seem to be in a particularly good spot right now, so I'd avoid it if possible.
Chile or Argentina however really seem like good locations both for business and for pleasure.
>>55442289
>Built by Argie firm
>50% of the appartments bought by Argies
kek
>>55442193
If you are thinking about da immigration issue, that has nothing to do
>>55442354
How much money are planning to spend?
>>55442414
I'm thinking of leaving with roughly 75-100k USD
Since with that amount I can get a flat pretty much in any big city around the world, i reckon South America wouldn't be any different.
>>55442128
The ones that promote massive immigration as a legitimate way to stay in power at all cost?
That is the "new" socialism you are talking about?
>>55442354
>Nobody told me so far what are average prices over there, and google results don't help me too much.
it really depends on the province, the city, and eventually the people that will rent you so there's no way of giving you a clear number.
here are osme links you can explore
http://www.argenprop.com/
http://www.zonaprop.com.ar/
http://www.remax.com.ar/
>>55442535
Thanks bro!
Wow, how is this only 20k?http://www.argenprop.com/Propiedades/Detalles/7179439--Casa-de-3-Dormitorios-en-Alquiler-Por-Temporada-en-Pdo.-de-General-Pueyrredon
Obviously i need to do a lot more research into the matter, but with a really short skim - the prices seem to be more than reasonable
>>55441598
>the most developed country on the country
>>55441747
Argentina's immigration policy is a joke.
I experienced this first-hand with my wife just overstaying her tourist visa over there.
Basically, to extend your visa time for 3 more months, you must pay 400 pesos.
But, the girl at the counter told us that you can overstay all you want and, when you decide to leave, you must pay a fine. Of 400 pesos.
>>55442493
Getting a place to live is really easy in South America, it's relativily empty. But getting a job is really hard, worse if you don't speak the local strange spanish variant.
>>55442654
>Alquiler Por Temporada
You know that means "rent for season" right?
Are you looking properties for rent or for sale? If for rent, you should pay attention to the type.
South America would be pretty cool, and there's tons of open space and beautiful scenery.
Hey it's better to have Europeans and Americans coming to South America than Muslims or Somalians. IT COULD BE A LOT WORSE, CAESAR!!!
>>55442531
Immigration has nothing to do with da economical/social system, it's their retarded politicians fault
You can see that da nordic countries are not the only ones who are experiencing immigration
>>55442767
>>55442771
My Spanish is pretty much shit and I'm currently at work so I don't have the lady to give me a hand (She does speak spanish and that's a plus).
Is the IT business on it's feet over there?
Ah, and to answer the question - I am looking to buy a place.
Chile is so nice its getting full of dindus from other southamerican countries, fuck even haiti africa
.
We full, dont bother you dindu-european
>>55442771
Also, over here - except for big cities, everything is pretty much shit when it comes to infrastructure. I assume it's the same over there or better, right?
>>55442844
>Is the IT business on it's feet over there?
Like programming, computer engeneering, etc, that kinf of thing? As far as I know there's constant job openings in that field, more and more graduates are picking that carrer
>>55442938
You guys still stigmatized by colonization or what?
The point and purpose is to contribute to society unlike you, basementdweller
>>55442844
>IT?
Well, you don't really need to speak spanish only if you're the boss of any company. You can hire some translators and profit
>>55442954
Yup; That's exactly what I meant - That's great however..
What more can you tell me about Argentina?
I'm interested in food, customs, real crime statistics, nightlife..etc
>>55442945
Yeah, and if what you are looking is technology related jobs and don't speak the language fluently you should really just stick to big cities, kek. Anyway here are some sites where you can find Romanians living in Argentina
>http://www.expat-blog.com/en/network/south-america/argentina/
>>55440667
desu you should wait a few years before thinking of moving here, we're not in a good place right now economically speaking and we're in the process of removing gommies from the premises so there's a chance you'll get caught in the crossfire.
After 3~5 years though you should be good to go.
>>55443060
Is that doable?
Starting your own company I mean. Over here it's a real hassle because of bureaucracy and that was pretty much the one defining thing that stopped me from ever starting one.
What's the average salary over there?
>>55443020
Are you rich or something? Be smart and visit 1st
Gather information, then visit, and then think about big plans
>>55443101
M'yah i figured that since that's more or less a rule everywhere outside of anglo speaking countries anyway.
Thanks for the link that's useful - If i decide on Argentina, I'll have a drink for you :)
>>55443069
Argentina is a big country, so it depends on which city are you planning on living in.
I'd say Buenos Aires has the best nightlife, but starts late, around 11pm and goes until 7AM or more. if you know the right places you can keep partying until noon.
>>55443204
Not rich, but I do better than the average eastern europoor.
I've only visited Venezuela a few years back and needless to say it's far from paradise, but a couple of friends of mine moved to Argentina and they praise it like it's heaven on earth, and that really made me think seriously about making this move.
>>55443283
Myup, parties seem to be just like over here (hours wise) Gotta' love the latin spirit.
>>55443119
Since we have US dollars running through our economy veins we've had hard to compete against our closest neighbors (Colombia and Perú). So our goverment has fucked us with tons of taxes, I've heard these taxes disencourage foreign investments but not sure.
Oue minimum wage is US$ 354
>>55442831
>Immigration has nothing to do with da economical/social system
Are you sure? I don't think that is the same opinion of the economists who rule the countries that you advocate. Especially the Nordics.
http://speisa.com/modules/articles/index.php/item.1912/sweden-to-borrow-money-from-eib-to-cover-the-cost-of-immigration.html
Of course learning Spanish really goes a way too, right?
>>55443336
Sounds reasonable (for an employer);
Considering you can make a start-up with 5-6 pretty skilled people - I bet you can have a running cost of roughly 10k USD/month and still have a functional and profitable business.
It's the bureaucracy I fear.
>>55443069
>>55443207
check out this, US mormons that share their experiences abroad talking about Argentina, and other South American countries
>https://www.youtube.com/user/PreparetoServe/playlists?sort=dd&view=50&shelf_id=3
>>55443391
I'd be more than delighted to learn Spanish or any foreign language as a matter of fact, but I try to be realistic and not assume that I'll be able to speak it fluently before I move there (regardless of that being the smart choice)
>>55443336
>Oue minimum wage is US$ 354
Compared to Brazil, its not that bad. I'm also pretty sure that we pay more taxes than you. We work 5 months in a year to pay taxes.
>>55440667
We are full.
![tumblr_ltlfde4wEF1ql9b8ho2_500[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/aJvx8jz.gif "tumblr_ltlfde4wEF1ql9b8ho2_500[1].gif")
>>55440667
>>55441427
Oh you.
>>55440667
I wouldn't recommend moving here just yet, give us time to get rid of the current goverment and give us 2-3 years
>>55443530
>>55443524
No one cares about Peru, sorry
>>55443498
>>55443476
>>55443391
>>55443336
Guys, thanks a lot for the links and the information. I really appreciate the time;
Saved them all since I'm leaving work in a few and I want to check all of them when I get home.
>>55443530
kek
Have a nice rest of your day, anons
Rare-pepe for your thoughts ;)
>>55443579
>give us time to get rid of the current goverment and give us 2-3 years
How? Your elections are rigged.
>>55443702
Joke's on you, everyone's elections are rigged.
>>55443319
You are going to want to learn Spanish tho. Not many people speak English in Argentina.
This means you won't be able to ask random strangers for directions and such.
Here's an interesting read on Argentinian culture and slang by a "gringo":
http://www.docdroid.net/bq7eCUF/che-boludo.pdf.html
>>55443498
Yeah, but you have to consider the industrialization factor. We cannot compare ourselves with Brazil in the economic field. You have the biggeest industrial center in South America in Sao Paulo, that means more job opportunities to pay more taxes
>>55443731
>http://www.docdroid.net/bq7eCUF/che-boludo.pdf.html
>A respectable old woman will swear like a sailor.
Sounds like home desu senpai
>>55443485
Tu puedes aprender español en tres meses, creo que es posible para estudiante inteligente
>>55441598
You actually can. Most of South America is easy as fuck to get a permanent resident permit.
Way one:
Invest starting from 5k-30k USD in a local bank account, provide a background check and two photos, pay a bit of money, wait 2-6 weeks collect your permit. Works even if you're in the country on a tourist visa.
Way two:
Start any kind of company in your home country, go to the embassy of the SA country, say you want to open a dependency in the country, provide proof of income a background check and two passport size photos, wait about 14 days, collect your visa, travel over to the country, register the company even if you don't use it.
Works also with a friends company and you go there as a "business developer"
>>55443799
¿Quién sos vos? ¡Un malayo que habla español!
>>55443799
I actually understand what you just wrote perfectly. Latin languages are more or less the same - my problem is with formulating a sentence by myself...
I'd say 4-5 months for myself if i'm not too lazy about it, But i bet if i get frustrated enough over not being able to buy cigarettes at the store or something i'll learn quicker
>>55443358
That link just says that Sweden is going to have to borrow money for paying da costs of immigration. There is not an economist saying "we need the immigration". They are committing suicide
>>55440667
chile. thats where anyone who knows anything about the upcoming war is heading.
clean air during nuclear winter, booming economy, slutty girls.
see you there anon.
>>55443799
>>55443864
ayy lmao
>>55443664
You're welcome, Vlad. But If I was you, I would stay in Romania, at least its Europe.
>>55443896
Dude, chinese run successful markets he and they barely speak spanish
>>55443988
thats only because your country is infested with niggers.
anon, europe is the new middle east, get out while you can.
>>55443967
>>55443721
The problem is that their elections are rigged for the most batshit insane side.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/03/nicolas-maduro-hugo-chavez-little-bird_n_3007965.html
http://www.latintimes.com/nicolas-maduro-losing-it-venezuelan-president-insists-little-bird-told-him-hugo-chavez-196520
>>55443864
>>55443967
El mundo es un pañuelo!
>>55443839
Mountain Jew lmao
>>55444096
Man, hit me up at [email protected], no homo.
To the rest, spam me all you want.
>>55443902
>There is not an economist saying "we need the immigration".
Read that article again, Magdalena Andersson is an economist.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magdalena_Andersson_%28Social_Democrat%29
>>55443759
>that means more job opportunities to pay more taxes
We have 13,2% of unemployment in São Paulo, our minimum wage is $226,25. How much is where you live?
>>55444559
Stop da fuckin lies, there's nothing
Copy & paste only da relevant part if you think I'm wrong
>>55443702
International pressure, the worsening state of the people, etc.
the upcoming parlimentary elections are so one sided with the opposition that the goverment won't be able to turn it to their side enough, if they fraud, the people will revolt, and if not, things will get thrown onto them enough that they will decide to just give it up and escape to spain for assylum or something.
Proof that the fall of the goverment is comming is that politicians (including Manuel Rosales, a pretty important figure for the opposition) are pretty much returning to the country and martying themselves so that they are the first in like to become governors and mayors, the upcoming president after this goverment is also pretty based, and he will proably be able to turn things around from the shitty situation we are at currently.
>>55440667
bavo is that you ??
>>55444915
You sound optimistic. I guess this means you are really confident that you will finally get rid of your retarded president. I really hope you are right, we need to get over these populists on our glorious continent.
>>55444915
>>55444915
>Next president
>Not Maduro
Keep dreaming bro, venezuelans are welcome here, we dont think you all are paramilitary CIA spies.
>>55443020
>Implying you're not a basement dweller yourself
> Implying some cities like Antofagasta aint now 20% Colombian
>>55445472
>>55445472
Chilean males kuking chilean women with Colombian niggettes cause chilean women are lower than shit tier.
>>55445346
>venezuelans are welcome here
'no'
>>55440667
Gonna reply before reading the whole thread.
Well, I live in the capital and it’s not that bad here, pretty fine. The weather is awesome, if you like heat. Never seen anything below 14°C here, and we get 30°C+ everyday. There are very few niggers, mostly whites and in-betweens. I think you could get a nice flat for around 600.000 BRL (around 150.000 USD) although in other cities they are much cheaper. Rent for one of those is probably around 2.000–3.000 BRL.
I suggest more the states of Minas Gerais, Santa Catarina, Paraná and Rio Grande do Sul. They have less nuggets and in-betweens, mostly whites of German ancestry, and the weather is not more like that of Europe. Small old towns in Minas Gerais are enchanting.
DON’T go to: any of the Northern and Northeastern states, São Paulo, Rio de Janeiro or any state in the center that isn’t the capital.
