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Where has this Rand Paul been? Why he was the GOP debate’s surprising winner
http://www.salon.com/2015/11/11/where_has_this_rand_paul_been_why_he_was_last_nights_surprising_winner/
Rand Paul Went On The Offensive, Reshaped The Debate And Had His Strongest Performance Yet
He hit his Libertarian stride during the GOP forum in Milwaukee.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/rand-paul-gop-debate-milwaukee_5642dbbbe4b060377346ef28
Rand Paul’s Hail Mary
The Kentucky senator had little left to lose—and delivered his strongest debate performance yet.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/11/rand_paul_had_his_best_debate_the_kentucky_senator_returned_to_the_ideas.html
>>55437469
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He did really well our Rand. Wished he did this in the three other debates.
Hoping for a surge now
>unironically linking to salon, slate, and HuffPo
Eat shit.
>>55437537
You can see so well how media has tried shilling everybody to get Trump.
Trump has been consistent trough and out.
Is he dropping at the moment in preparation for a push closer to the actual nomination?
>>55437469
When Huff Post is endorsing you, you know you've hit absolute rock bottom and should probably kill yourself.
randlet
Trump is the new meme.
It's fucking ADORABLE. No matter what he says, /pol/ will flip flop and follow him. It's a hivemind over here.
>B-but /pol/ isn't one person and I'm too autistic to generalize
>>55437469
he favors amnesty which will give the democraps 30 million new voters and prevent the reps from ever winning again
>>55437469
Good. I'm a liberal but I hate Hillary and in general am getting fed up with the gender politics on the left. But Carson and Trump are fucking idiots. It'd be nice if the GOP could get a half-decent candidate nominated, either Rand or maybe someone like Rubio or even Cruz. Hell, I don't like Fiorina but imagine the butthurt if she gets the first female president title instead of Hillary.
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>>55439487
Yes, we need more of a split. The founding fathers wanted us to be a country split down the middle. America is most prosperous when it's needless bickering is slowing down progress.
You're going to see more and more democrats until the Republican party gets it's shit together. No one these days wants to be a hardcore conservative with inconsistent beliefs.
>>55437469
FoxBiz does some fair coverage for libertarian-minded people, even for being a Fox subsidiary.
It's like they're incognito /pol/. Just look at Napolitano.
>>55440827
what are you talking about?
do you agree that rand supports amnesty for illegals?
>>55441071
I agree that he does. I don't support it.
Yet I'm responding to the reason this idiot gives for getting upset with it. It's not "because we're giving amnesty to illegals", it's "oh no more democracts".
He will make a great VP one day.
Trump/Rand confirmed
>>55441489
you realize that has nothing to do with that he said right?
importing voters is not the same as improving your policy to where existing voters change their minds
one is democratic the other is not
>>55441535
Trump/Rand
Would you vote?
He did well but he is not president material. Too blaze and smug
Also tiny
>>55441575
rand/carson more like it
>>55439175
>I'm too autistic
>>55441575
This isn't even a question. It's the REAL Dream Ticket. Not that Trump/Carson garbage
>>55441585
>Too blaze and smug
Yeah, I'm glad we picked the guy who isn't smug.
>>55441489
That's exactly how it works
Latinos care about putting food on the table. Not MUH BROWN VOTE
>>55441489
are you new?
>>55439487
>prevent the reps from ever winning again
Only short-term, and not in any way that matters. Republicans have pretty much the whole country locked down except for the Presidency, which is why Dems are all of a sudden so comfortable with expanding Presidential powers.
The Republican brand works in gubernatorial elections, congressional elections, and a shitload of local elections. Their big problem is national, and even if the Democrats manage hold it, historically, "locked up forever" only lasts 20 years at the most before something changes.
>randlets are too stupid to realize that Rand was wrong
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/foreign-policy/item/21891-secretary-john-kerry-invites-russia-and-china-into-tpp
>trump say china will "sneak in the backdoor"
>kerry has already extended an offer for china to join the TPP
Manlets, will they ever learn
>>55437469
It was a debate with questions that actually covered his topics
What did Rand do?
He Stumped himself with that TPP support, Trump is right, China is backdooring the deal. Apparently Randlet didn't read the latest from John Kerry that China is joining the TPP.
I prefer rand over trump, however I don't think he could win the general election. but then again, it will be against hillary, an old short fat woman, so he actually does have a good chance.
>>55441740
Beaners aren't the only uninformed voters. If you care that beaners are going to vote democrat for superficial reasons, then you should care that a majority of Americans are doing the same thing. Obama didn't win because of his charm alone, his race and appeal with certain communities had a lot to do with it.
I'm a beaner. I don't want illegals, and I know that beaners are so ungodly stupid when it comes to voting. I can't talk about Trump with any of them without them showing how little they know about the issues, and yet how firm they stand against what they don't know. There are Americans who are the same way, though.
>>55437469
>Salon
>Huffington Post
>>55441803
No. Did disagreeing with you show my newness, little one?
>>55441857
BREAKING NEWS
>randlets are totally retarded
>>55441827
>Only short-term
are you really so stupid that you can't see that these 30 million will grow over time since the immigrants have a higher birthrate? and the indiginous are reducing every generation?
>>55437469
Cruz won the debate.
>>55441865
>it will be against hillary, an old short fat woman
HOLY SHIT
i hadn't checked till right now, but hillary is ACTUALLY TALLER THAN THE RANDLET!!!!!!!!!!!
>clinton
5'7
>randlet
5'6, 5'5 without his shoe lifts
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
>>55441894
>Paul is not going to win the Republican nomination - Salon.com
Remember when "Matt Bevin" wasn't going to be governor of Kentucky? Remember when Jack Conway was going to win by a comfortable 5 points?
>>55437469
Why did he turn into such a fucking savage all of a sudden?
Did someone in his campaign convince him to snort coke beforehand?
>>55441936
No, I just think that building a coalition on identity politics won't last. "Don't vote Republican because they're racist" won't have traction forever; people are already getting sick of it. And once they do, they'll find out that Hispanics are a lot more conservative than they hoped.
>>55441897
>Yet I'm responding to the reason this idiot gives for getting upset with it
I said it, you were responding to me, newfags don't know about post IDs
>>55442044
>Why did he turn into such a fucking savage all of a sudden?
hes desperate
If he doesn't get a surge out of this he will be banished to the kiddies table
>where he honestly belongs
Rand is using the debates to make a surging comeback just like Carly! Watch out Carly, Rand is coming up from behind. Don't mind the chainsaw, Carly, that is only for destroying the tax code. LOL
>>55441995
Liberals are consistently wrong about everything all the time, this shouldn't be a surprise. Especially when they pretend they know the outcome of an election. They predicted a Democrat majority in the House and Senate in 2014, and look how that turned out.
It's times like these you realize /pol/ is full of shills when they want trump, a fucking confirmed Shillarly shill to win over Rand, the literally last man in politics to even give a shit about you.
>>55442144
>Rand is using the debates to make a surging comeback
>surging comeback
>3%
better be one hell of a surge, i personally hope he gets to 5.5%
my sides would take up permanent residence around mars
>>55442066
people who get free handouts tend to vote for more free handouts anon
>>55442182
The only thing Paul said of any intrinsic value last night was that doing a no-fly zone over Syria was fucking insane and would lead to a war with Russia. Jeb and Carly are lunatics.
>>55442210
Every time I see this picture he seems to be slightly smaller. Eventually he's going to just be a speck on the floor
>>55441675
Tbqh with you family, that's what I took away from that post too.
>>55442044
I actually think he did excellent in tempering his mood. He has the habit of letting his anger get the best of him and sounding like a whiny bitch. Last night he just sounded like he was confident and was willing to engage on issues. Still on the Trump train but Rand deserves a seat in a Trump cabinet.
>Salon
>HuffPost
>Slate
Is this a b8 thread?
This coordinated "Rand surge" is pathetic. Did he contact all 500 people who bought his book and asked them to post positive things on Chinese chat rooms?
>>55442182
>It's times like these you realize /pol/ is full of shills when they want trump, a fucking confirmed Shillarly shill to win over Rand, the literally last man in politics to even give a shit about you.
cry more about it
Rand stabbed us in the back when he gave up his libertarian ideals and starting duckstepping along with the GOP establishment
Hes not his dad
>has a qt wife though desu
>>55442227
Calling out Rubio's horseshit big spending initiatives was ace in my book. Shame the primary voters would rather see us spend trillions upon trillions on bloated and inefficient military projects that are literally designed to keep weapons makers fat and happy.
>>55442226
Which explains blacks, but Hispanics have the potential to be better citizens. Illegal immigrants send over $50 billion to their families back home every year. I don't want them here, but I understand their motivations, and people who break their backs to provide for their families sound pretty conservative to me.
Do you really expect someone to say, "My father came to this country, lived in a ghetto, sacrificed his life working 60 hours a week landscaping so that his children could be safe and have opportunity to thrive, and that's why I'm supporting Bernie Sanders."
>>55442332
>Did he contact all 500 people who bought his book and asked them to post positive things on Chinese chat rooms?
jesus christ, i thought you were joking
>Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul’s new book, released on Oct. 20, has sold fewer than 500 copies, according to numbers from Nielsen BookScan.
>Paul’s book, Our Presidents & Their Prayers, a 36,000-word account about the faith of U.S. presidents, had only sold 80 copies in the first six days, according to the BookScan numbers. Today the number of sales for Paul’s book stands at 440 through Sunday, according to sources with access to the numbers.
>Outside of Jeb Bush, there hasn’t been a bigger disaster of a 2016 Republican presidential campaign than Sen. Rand Paul. Their heir to the Paul presidential campaign business has never been able to recover from the double whammy of constant flip-flops and the rise of the outsider candidates.
http://www.politicususa.com/2015/11/05/rand-pauls-book-bombs-selling-500-copies-weeks.html
>>55442332
This. The fucking Carson and Rand shilling is so fucking obvious and often blatantly newfagish/schizophrenic. Note the repeated use of shit tier meme images. Not even comparable to le trump meme images. Just flat out childish, retarded shit.
>>55437469
He needs to stop cutting hanks of hair off his head. He looks demented.
>>55442332
pic
>>55442463
nigger, something like 70% of illegal AND legal immigrants are on the public teat in one way or another
>>55442558
Most of the huge price tag associated with illegal immigrants are for things like educating children in public schools, which are funded by property taxes and, thus, impossible to avoid.
>>55441982
is rand a japanese schoolgirl? :3
>>55439487
>he favors amnesty
no he doesn't, he wants there to be an easier and faster way to get into america legally
>>55442558
>nigger, something like 70% of illegal AND legal immigrants are on the public teat in one way or another
thank god only like half of them are sober enough to make it to the election booth
I remember being in philly for the 2012 election, ACORN was literally going around and waking up the junkies to try and force them to go vote
Alot of them still refused, even when offered free food and gatorade
niggers man....
>>55442700
>the 11 million that are here, I think there could be a work status for them. And I think what I have tried to say is, what we want is more legal immigration, so we have less illegal immigration
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>Q: Does a "pathway to citizenship" mean amnesty in your book?
PAUL: I think that that's the whole point: What is amnesty? Because, [for those who say] "no deportation and no amnesty," well, if you're not going to deport people you are somehow changing the current law because the current law says everybody must go.
>Q: But you've said that the party should give up this word "amnesty"?
PAUL: I think we need to get beyond it. We need some form of immigration reform.
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Rand_Paul_Immigration.htm
>>55442700
http://www.ontheissues.org/2016/Rand_Paul_Immigration.htm
some interesting quotes here
>Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky is endorsing a pathway to citizenship for the nation's 11 million illegal immigrants. In a speech, the potential 2016 presidential candidate declares, "If you wish to live and work in America, then we will find a place for you."
Paul's path to citizenship would come with conditions that could make it long and difficult for illegal immigrants. Chief among these, Congress would have to agree first that progress was being made on border security.
Paul's speech is peppered with Spanish phrases from his youth in Texas, references to his immigrant grandparents and praise for Latino culture. He says his party must adopt a new face toward Hispanics and says conservatives must be part of it. "Immigration reform will not occur until conservative Republicans, like myself, become part of the solution. I am here today to begin that conversation," Paul says. "Let's start that conversation by acknowledging we aren't going to deport" the millions already here, he says.
>>55442839
making it easier to legally migrate =/= amnesty
>>55442917
>Paul's path to citizenship would come with conditions that could make it long and difficult for illegal immigrants
not any harder and longer than the current system, it can take up to a decade for a mexican to get in
>>55442558
But regardless, Democrat lockdown on national elections is based on the idea that minority groups vote Democrat, and women mostly vote Democrat.
What they're doing works now, but the idea that they can keep pulling out the War on Women every election season for decades is silly. Republicans play identity politics less than Democrats, and Hispanic voters rank jobs and the economy far above immigration in terms of importance. Bush won 40% of the Hispanic vote in 2004, and the Democrats veered hard into identity politics for 2008, cutting that down to Romney winning 27% in 2012.
Demographics are only troubling if you assume that Democrats can keep playing the racist card.
>>55442949
>not any harder and longer than the current system, it can take up to a decade for a mexican to get in
>endorsing a path to citizenship for the 11million already here
do you know what amnesty means?
letting the 11million stay will be granting them amnesty
Amnesty (noun)
an official pardon for people who have been convicted of political/legal offenses
>>55437469
>salon
>huffpo
>slate
Fuck it, I'll take it.
Rand, Rand, he's our man. If he can't do it then we'll vote Gary Johnson again!
>salon.com
>huffingtonpost.com
>slate.com
I wonder who could be behind those sites?
>leftists shilling for the only republican that supports BLM
he's so kosher his dad looks like hitler. Come on, they'd shill anyone, even an ebil nazi libertarian, just to have people forget about Trumpamania
When both sides, right and left get so anal ravaged about one politician, you know he's going against the status quo.
>>55442949
are you just thick, or stupid as well?
if you refuse to deport the illegals, that is de facto amnesty, they will use all sorts of excuses
think of the children
they will pay taxes
oh the humanity! the humanity
but in the end they will become legal and the vast majority of them will vote democrap
RAND?
>>55441834
Wrong. China is against the tpp. They would never join something they are against.
>>55441857
Wrong. China is against the tpp.
You need to study Chinese politics.
They will never join something they are against because it would be egg on face for the leaders.
>>55441982
He's 5'8" you liar.
>randlet
>winning
Pick one
>>55443482
>>55443580
>>55443628
>manlets getting desperate
top kek
No one here is pro-amnesty so we won't be voting for lil' paul anytime soon
>>55442839
my feet hurt just from looking at her heels
>>55443756
Fag
>>55441982
Hillary is famous for lying about her height
>>55444711
I thought she was famous for being a presidential kek.
Is the only argument against rand paul that he's ''''''short'''''''?
Does he still have a shot at the nom?
