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Nuclear power is the ultimate source of energy: affordable, plentiful, clean, and reliable. The only reason we don't use it more is because of paranoia. There have been only 3 nuclear power plant disasters in the past 65 years. Compare that to all the disasters in coal mining. It's time we got over our unfounded fear and started using it more.
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>>55428607
>50 year reactor core
>fire
i'd choose the fire.
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>>55428683
Why?
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>>55428607
The only reason we use potentially unstable runaway-fission reactors is because we mined insane amounts of uranium or nuclear weapons, refined it into enriched uranium for the purpose, and then essentially stopped mining it because fuck it, we have so much of this deadly glowy shit already. No, really.
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>>55428828
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>>55428893
LE POLE IS SO FANNAH RITE BRO xD!!!!!
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>>55428828
>insane amounts of Uranium have already been mined for nuclear weapons

That is in part the truth.

There has never been an economical incentive towards Thorium reactors and other alternative nuclear physics based energy generation technologies.
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lookup: Artificial energy,
safe, cleanwe, no waste.
Lazers fire on a ball of frozen hydrigen, amd expels more energy than it takes in.
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>be Japan
>be precariously on the edge of the largest geological fault line on earth
>build nuclear reactor anyway
>be Germany
>be safely on the Eurasian plateau, far from any fault lines
>decide to never, ever built nuclear reactors because they're too dangerous!!!
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When are they going to power cities on rotting banana peels?
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>>55428607
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/es2021318

Thorium is safer and isn't used for weaponry. Sadly, the UN is fucking insane in regards to making laws, despite this, nearly every country that shouldn't has gotten a nuclear weapon at some point or another.
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>>55429586
Its not because its dangerous you fucking dolt its because it would require close ties to a nuclear power and for Germoney that means a former Allied power

Its a pride thing don't fool yourself
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>>55429586
>Country that has been nuked twice builds reactors.
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>>55428607
Too capital intensive.
Requires 50 year investments.
World economy cannot support it.
Global Collapse is the only future (or communist utopia, you decide ;P)
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>>55428683
Sure you would, son. Sure you would.
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>>55429694
>Germany
>pride
Have you seen Germany lately, Mohamed?
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building more fission reactors is completely retarded and almost masochistic.

just poor more money into the R&D of fusion reactors. once we have them up and running we won't have to worry about energy for a while, or having a fission reactor destroy miles of land for thousands of years.
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>>55429844
The nuclear "thing" was established in the fifties and sixties dipshit

Try to keep up champ
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>>55429991
enlighten me on this fission you speak of
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>>55429991
We no longer have to worry about those on at least semi-modern fission plants. Only the first generation plants were fail-deadly.

In my opinion, we should have closed all the old plants ages ago, but muh sheckels.
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>>55430166
fission is where you split an atom to make nuclear energy, fusion is when you join(fuse) two atoms together to make energy.

all current nuclear reactors are fission. fission is extremely dangerous because if it melts down, the whole area is fucked for generations. fission reactors can't melt down, so they don't have the main problem associated with fission reactors.

also it's projected that once fusion reactors are up and running their power output will completely shadow the energy output of fission reactors.
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>>55430361

>fission reactors can't melt down
Fusion reactors, you mean.
The worst case scenario in a Fusion reactor failure is that there's damage to the reactor. But all the products of fusion are clean like helium, there's no environmental impact.
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>>55428607
>Get a load of this guy
>Worldwide there have been 99 accidents at nuclear power plants.[7]
>Fifty-seven accidents have occurred since the Chernobyl disaster
>57% (56 out of 99) of all nuclear-related accidents have occurred in the USA.[7]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_and_radiation_accidents_and_incidents
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>>55428607
Nuclear energy is everything but clean...
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>>55430701
The corporations usually just leave the waste near the reactors. Nobody is obligated to actually fix the problem since they don't give a shit after the corporation is disbanded.
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>>55430841
Yeah, even tho heres a way to recycle nuclear waste...
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>>55430899
I am just talking about proper storage rather than leaving in old barrels.
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>>55430964
That's sweeping it under a salt rug for future generations to deal with, not recycling.
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>>55431532
Sorry made a double post there, bit redundant. Yeah, that's my point. I never said it was recycling, or just getting it out of the way at the very least.
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>>55428607
Only 3 in 65 years?
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>>55431532
Store it in the Australian desert. We'll take your money for it.
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>>55428607
>Nuclear power is the ultimate source of energy: affordable, plentiful, clean, and reliable. The only reason we don't use it more is because of paranoia.

No shit Sherlock...
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Modern reactor designs make Chernobyl style catastrophies practically impossible. Anti-nuclear fearmongering campaigns are actually making nuclear energy MORE dangerous by preventing new reactors from being built and eventually replacing old ones.
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>>55429775
Australia best shitposter
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>>55433801
Thats fucking Radioactive gas M8
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Plentiful? It doesn't last forever.
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>>55434949
Fun fact: Chernobyl style catastrophy was practically impossible.

They literally disabled all safety features while stress testing the system to the limit and ignoring all warnings.

Just think about how ridiculous that is.
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>>55434949
Those people were financed and led by the commies back in the day. Note how they only targeted western nuclear programms.
Their goal was and still is the destruction of western industry and capitalism.
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>>55429775
They get built.
Because of government.
They get built.
Well true, but there will be survivors, and no government in the way. Guess nuclear power will be the future, eh shitposter?
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>>55435167
It could last for thousands of years.
The sun will also expire at some point, idiot.
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>>55435111
Not sure if retarded or trolling

Either way read up on nuclear powerplants. Radioactive material is kept in large pools of water which effectively cut down radiation levels to nothing.

Radioactive material merely provides heat, that heat boils water and creates steam, that steam rotates turbines. Most people assume there's some crazy complicated processes involved but really the pinnacle of human energy generation is also one of our most primitive.
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>>55429586
>build nuclear reactor anyway
You mean
>continue running a reactor on an outdated unsafe design for decades
>gets destroyed by tsunami a year before it was finally supposed to be decommissioned
>people go apeshit over nuclear power instead of unsafe reactor designs
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>>55429586
lol first of all, weve had plenty of nuclear reactors, secondly, we still have some running, but after fukushima merkel decided to shut down the oldest ones (which was not exactly legal, because their runtime was clearly defined). we will keep 8 out of the remaining 9 running until 2022.

another big reason against nuclear power some people bring up is not so much the risk of accidents, but rather that we somehow have to get rid of the radioactive waste, which is risky during the transportation and storage.
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Blame Jane Fonda and the movie "The China Syndrome". Most liberals and anti-nuclear power tards think this movie was reality.
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>>55435337
>water that touches the rods also creates steam
That's shit-tier design inevitable to kill people. Just like having rods that aren't suspended in a way that automatically breaks the chain reaction if a meltdown/power loss occurs.

Modern designs separate the cooling water around the rods from the water that drives the turbines. Because otherwise you have a high probability of a leak causing radioactive water to flow out.
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>>55435383
Our ancestors dumped rare earth metals as waste near their mines. Who knows what we could do with this stuff in the future.
So trying to seal this "waste" away forever is probably not the best option.
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>>55435550
its probably not a great idea to let it contaminate the ground water either
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