If the South tried to secede today would anyone even care enough to try to stop them?
>>55428496
Could you fucking imagine the glory of it?
>Senators and congressman say "We are seceding because everyone hates us and calls us racist even when we aren't.
>US military literally dies because majority are from South
>Economy dies, held only by New York and San Francisco
>South becomes white paradise
Please lord
They wouldn't because it's filled with poor states in need of government money.
>>55428565
Nah I'm a texasfag here and I could say that if Texas were to secede, Texas itself would likely split as well. This is due to the faggot SJW libtards that reside in the southern part of the state and all thw GIB MAY FRAY SHAT niggers.
>>55428496
Your daily reminder.
>>55428655
That's what I'm getting at.
The south of today is definitely not the confederate south of the past.
If anything, its New England that should secede.
>>55428496
Your life of welfare is over if we do, princess.
I wouldn't give two shits about that but the chance to kill at many racist shits as legally possible is too good to pass up. Following in my forefathers footsteps and beating the shit out of those inbred hicks would be something glorious. Mexico can have all that desert and swamp land for all I care . Just gonna be a repeat of history with the south thinking that having guns will save them from the north's superiority
AR reporting in
In sucks ass down here. If there was another civil war down here we know who would win
>Protip: Not the south
>>55429043
Young realize the majority of the US military is from Southern states right?
>>55428682
In Texas also, and you're full of shit. Texas would purge the Californians before it split.
Yes. The liberals would get extremely butthurt.
>>55429099
Hard to purge anyone when the average Texan is over 250 pounds.
>>55429170
>Yes. The liberals would get extremely butthurt.
..on the internet
>>55429177
Texans have easily purged your mother.
>>55429099
Hey Texasbro, I diddnt say it was 100% gonna happen did I? I meant that it was just a possibility. Down here in Corpus and further down in southern Texas there is a very distinct and unfortunate liberal presence that you simply can't ignore
>>55429083
Heavier Population density in the north. As well as all those desperate illegals and "refugees"...
Many former US officer split after sucession, and yet they still lost.
"An army must inevitably consist of the scum of the people and all those for which society has no use." Comte de Saint-Germain
>>55428496
"care" isn't the right word. But we would propagandize our hordes of protein-deficient vegans to the point that they'd swarm down there and barbecue your children.
We'd do it for fun, because you guys are obnoxious as fuck desu
>>55429263
True the north part of the state is the main reason Texas is still a beautiful deep shade of red. It's good that the north hasn't caved into the liberals
>>55428655
Most welfare goes to the niggers... since we in the South have most of the niggers.
The South had better learn from the mistakes the Confederacy had the same way the founding fathers learned from the Articles of Confederation when they wrote the Constitution. Shit doesn't work. States need uniform and standardized shit otherwise it'd be a goddamn mess.
Interstate infrastructure would be a nightmare to maintain. I can't even begin to imagine how bad the logistics of the power grids for the southern states would be. I know my state has a few nuclear reactors (Duke Energy) so I think my state would be fine in terms of a stable power grid but I have no idea how other states would fair barring Texas who also has their own power grid.
Honestly I have no idea how something like a balkanized United States would fair. I'd take a few decades at best to sort all the shit out. I'm not saying whether the south should or shouldn't secede but there's a lot of shit people don't think about when they say we should.
>>55428496
Considering the massive drain they are on federal resources? Probably nobody but the people actually living in them.
>>55429177
its because they count steers as texans. besides, malnourished unarmed hippie faggots got nothing on fat rednecks armed to the teeth
>>55428565
>Senators and congressman say "We are seceding because everyone hates us and calls us racist when we blatantly are but we deny it.
>US military literally kills traitors to the nation because the majority of the traitors are from South.
>Economy thrives, because the massive number of white trash on welfare die out, as well as any thing else that is worthless and white in the South, which is everything
>South becomes white paradise
Fix'd
Much closer to reality.
Southern states are largely the 'gibs-me-dats' on the state level.
>>55428746
>>55429177
Le fat American maymay
>>55429648
You are wrong, champ.
But education in the North is nonexistent.
>>55429560
Go clean yourself up, honey. Almost time for school.
>>55429560
>US military literally kills traitors because the majority of the traitors are from South
What traitors?
>>55429473
They count on you being too stupid to separate out military, NASA, retirement locations, university grants, Federal-owned land, etc, etc, etc.
And Northerners never disappoint.
>>55429785
The US Census disagrees.
See: >>55429785
>>55429785
The South criticizing the Norths education?
Seriously?
>>55429860
He thinks the South are traitors to Obama.
He spelled it out in a previous post.
>>55429907
Thanks.
I mock Northerners for being stupid.
You demonstrated it by showing how confusing this whole "click" thing is.
You fuckers. You make me laugh.
>>55429899
Nah man. Most southerners would starve if the federal government didn't pay for their food.
Also, Detroit is a city, not a state, and it fell to shit because the car manufacturing jobs that were the foundation of its economy got outsourced. No amount of good governing could possibly have saved it.
>>55429913
Don't let it bother you, princess.
>>55429473
There's the proper post. My point stands. All the nitpicking in the world can't change the facts.
>>55430065
...why?
>>55430058
>Nah man.
Spelling is hard, isn't it?
I'll ignore the rest of your feelings as irrelevant.
None of you fuckers even realize that your "schools" are making you dumber by the year.
>>55430058
I wonder what would happen if you removed veteran's benefits from that. Much of the military comes from the south, but I'd hardly consider soldiers who have benefits as a product of serving their time welfare queens.
>>55430129
Helicopter parents. It's probably from a private school, they get the real obsessive ones...
>>55430058
Detroit has been democrat-governed for 50 years. That killed it.
The same happened to Baltimore. All the other democrat-governed cities and states are following.
North = democrat.
See the connection? If you're from the North...probably not.
>>55428496
No. Sometimes I wish they would. I think the two seperate cultures in America would get on more harmoniously. The only thing that worries me is that the south would be war mongering.
>>55428496
I seem to see this shitpost everytime I check up on this fucking site.
Anyway, I'm from the Midwest so I'll never be you but I love the South so fuck dissenters.
Up with the cross, OP. Plz be friends with the Confederation of the Great Lakes after the US balkanizes.
>>55430215
>Detroit has been democrat-governed for 50 years. That killed it.
Yeah, the collapse of domestic manufacturing had nothing to do with it...
Seriously, are you people even aware that you're full of shit anymore? It's getting scary.
>>55430179
No, it's standard for the North. They've become pretty little princesses.
This is Pennsylvania.
I mock my retarded Northern friends, but to be fair, I'd concede that the whole educational system worldwide is in collapse.
I would also lay the blame squarely on Northerners and the SJW university system that you see in the news daily.
>>55430159
You may have a point there, looking at the data. Hard to really say without a legit statistical analysis though.
>>55430130
If you're just going to ignore the data and nitpick my posts I won't even waste my time engaging you. I'm sorry I offended your delicate grammatical sensibilities, faggot.
>>55430391
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>>55430276
>The only thing that worries me is that the south would be war mongering.
Even a Northerner shouldn't have been stupid enough to type that out.
But you guys are governed solely by feelings, aren't you?
>>55430348
Do you think the North is SJW land?
No man, I bet plenty come from the Souths Universities, and California.
Pretty cozy up here in the rural North-east, desu.
>>55430348
The SJW's are largely relegated to the Ivy League "schools" which anyone familiar with them knows haven't provided an actual education for decades. I saw only one in all my years of college.
I think the dirty little secret is that all those SJW tumblrinas most likely come from the south and midwest and California in the Blue areas. And the big cities.
Makes me wonder what they actually think New England and the great lakes area is actually like.
>>55430391
>If you're just going to ignore the data and nitpick my posts
You had no data, princess.
>I won't even waste my time engaging you.
Run away then, honey. That's what a pantyclutching little Northern bitch would do. That's why your economies are shit. There's no real men up there.
>>55429913
Because public schools in Chicago, New York, Detroit, and Baltimore are so great?
>>55430510
I live in southern CA and have been to San Francisco and LA. They're rare even here. The SJW's really are just a loud fringe group. They're basically the liberal version of teabaggers; nobody but other SJW's and stupid administrators/politicians take them seriously.
>>55430517
The North is not just those places. Just like the South is not just Dallas, Houston, and New Orleans.
>>55428565
>Senators and congressman say "We are seceding because everyone hates us and calls us racist even when we aren't.
>US military is scaled back because most liberals don't want to lick the boots of the military industrial complex
>Economy dies does about the same but with significantly less white trash on welfare
>Lack of economic power of the South aside from Texas causes South to remain one of the biggest centers of poverty and mental retardation
>Kekservatives remove all safety nets and the poor and retarded die off through economic natural selection
>South becomes white paradise for economic elite with a streamlined voting base/ wageslave class
>>55430569
Can confirm. It's the East Coasters that move to Cali that give it a bad name ultimately. If anything, San Francisco is what the SJW part of it is.
>>55430517
New York actually has some of the best public schools in America.
>>55430517
At least most people in the North can fucking read, with the notable exception of my home state of CA.
>>55430632
Even San Fran isn't all that bad. You just find them at Berkeley, really.
>>55430569
couldn't say this shit better myself.
Everyone comes to California to live out their "cali dreamz". They come here with their liberal fantasies after living in whatever conservative shithole they came from for 18+ years but some how were responsible for liberals because every degenerate son and abused daughter from every other state runs away to California for opportunity or a new start. We need immigration reform to stop letting all these out of state faggots come in.
>>55430655
>CA
>North
Quality education, breh.
>>55430700
Yeah. I know. I'm from the LA area and it's pretty mixed or people just don't give a shit about politics. Same with Seattle which is where I go to school atm. Berkeley or Reed is where your degeneracy is.
>>55430725
I think our housing and water shortages will solve that problem fairly soon on its own, for better or worse.
>>55428565
>white paradise
>majority of blacks live in South
>>55430743
Eh, it's midwest and therefore not "the south." Besides, northern CA might as well be it's own damn state as different as it is from southern CA.
>>55429405
Not true
>>55430725
>>55430725
Usually the native Californians such as myself never even complain about how "racist" or "oppressive" it is. I moved out largely because of cost of living, but even I knew I didn't leave because of politics. But you can say NorCal has it much worse on the overall spectrum.
>>55430700
Not even Berkeley. Berkeley is very community orientated with a strong emphasis on prosperity for everyone and the environment. I heard of some controversy in the Castro of San Francisco because native Californian gays were getting fed up of all the other gays from the rest of the country coming in and being all flamboyant and loud about being gay and disrupting the community.
>>55429405
That is just categorically false. 40% of welfare recipients were white in 2015.
>>55430786
Its not THAT different. Socal would look like norcal if we didnt have 40 million mexicans.
To give some perspective on New England, the states usually always go democrat, but Massachusetts has had republican governors for instance, like Mitt Romney. There are so many libertarians too, especially in New Hampshire, and even socialist leaning Vermont is pro-gun.
I'm wondering what all this anti-liberal stuff is coming from sometimes because the liberals and Democrats around here are decent. So are the republicans too.
Then I realized it, the rest of the country is screwed up, not us. Plus the spirit of Massachusetts is the spirit of america, it says so on out license plates.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwu1qAOvcsc
>>55430865
I know a gay guy who's pretty cool. He hates the "flamers", I think most rational people do, especially the ones that are gay.
>>55430774
Enough said. Don't get any logic behind why the South is some utopia for Northerners tired of the degenerate leftism. Most of the major South metro areas have significantly more blacks in the area, and if they're more educated, highly likely they'll be the ones pushing for AA. If they want to go to the "Wild Wild West" part of the South, they'll most likely be part of a secluded area in the dead center of Texas, Oklahoma, or Arkansas or wherever. Lord knows how much they'll integrate into rural life. Look at Breivik leaving Oslo to the countryside.
>>55430449
Today, it's Missouri.
And Alabama.
If we're all honest, we recognize that the country is blended. It's not North and South anymore, it's conservative and liberal.
>>55430402
Lol only southerners desperate and stupid enough to sign their lives away for the military industrial complex.
>>55430882
Yeah, and whites are 70% of the population.
>>55430655
A lot of us have photoshop, hon.
>>55430882
>5 times as many whites as blacks
>not even twice as many welfare recipients
>>55430865
I guess that holds plenty of weight, I don't know Berkeley as much as I do with UCLA or UW (which both are really tame on the SJW problem although arguably so Berkeley might if anything have it worse). But I definitely believe the Castro story. The ones moving to Seattle from other areas are also making it look foolish. Not gay, but I can infer from that logic if so.
>>55430885
Nah, SoCal has been long conservative for ages.
>>55430700
>>55430747
>>55430865
Hahahaha!
>Californians are grate! They just want social justice!1!
>don't step there, that naked guy just took a dump
>>55430834
I grew up in Santa Barbara and also lived for sometime in the Bay Area close to Hayward. It is different I'll agree with that. But Northern California isn't the liberal paradise everyone makes it seem like it is. I don't like to sound repetitive but it really is most out of state people that are the uber liberals. They hear about California and over do the stereotypes to an extreme trying to fit in them they just cash out on their home and move to some other west coast state or Texas or Florida. But somehow we get blamed for that because they spent sometime in California.
>>55430951
Not even. I'd say the split is Democrat and Republican and more about partisan politics than actual differences in values or beliefs.
>>55430774
So much this
>>55430974
>>55430996
Doesn't change the fact that the plurality of welfare funbux go to whites.
>>55430991
Google "Welfare by race, 2015" yourself, or keep that tinfoil hat on, see if I care.
>>55430882
Thanks to the policies of Northerners, having a job today is for suckers.
Follow these easy, proven 13 steps to financial well-being…
1. Don’t get married to her
2. Use your mom’s address to get mail sent to
3. Guy buys a house
4. Guy rents out house to his girlfriend who has two of his kids
5. Section 8 will pay $900 a month for a three-bedroom home
6. Girlfriend signs up for Obamacare so guy doesn’t have to pay out the butt for family insurance
7. Girlfriend gets to go to college free for being a single mother
8. Girlfriend gets $600 a month for food stamps
9. Girlfriend gets free cellphone
10. Girlfriend gets free utilities
11. Guy moves into home but uses mom’s house to get mail sent to
12. Girlfriend claims one kid and guy claims one kid on taxes… now you both get to claim head of household at $1,800 credit
13. Girlfriend gets disability for being “bipolar” or having a “bad back” at $1,800 a month and never has to work again
This plan is perfectly legal and is being executed now by millions of people.
A married couple with a stay-at-home mom yields $0.00 dollars.
An unmarried couple with stay-at-home mom nets:
$21,600 disability +
$10,800 free housing +
$6,000 free Obamacare +
$6,000 free food +
$4,800 free utilities +
$6,000 Pell grant money to spend +
$12,000 a year in college tuition free from Pell grant +
$8,800 tax benefit for being a single mother
= $75,000 a year in benefits
http://apps.npr.org/unfit-for-work/
>>55431050
California isn;t in India.
>>55431108
Oh so you're a spamming shitposter. I should have noticed sooner.
>>55431065
Yeah, there is not that much of a difference between Republicans and Democrats. Except maybe the dems are pro-unions but thats one issue.
The real thing is that the libs and conservatives and dems and republicans are regionally different from each other. Say a Michigan democrat can be entirely different from a Georgia Democrat.
But then the blanket labels everybody uses helps keeps the two big teams together!
>>55431098
>Google "Welfare by race, 2015" yourself,
I never mentioned this topic, honey.
But of course it's true. Race-baiting is for Northerners.
Real people recognize that it's culture that matters, not skin color.
>>55429473
that maps disingenuous
consider that smaller state governments that keep lower taxes on their residents will naturally have a higher portion of federal "aid" for shit like interstate funds and all other manner of shit that the federal government takes from the states and then gives back with strings attached
>>55428496
If marijuana was legalized, the south would become an economic powerhouse without need for huge industry or subsidies from the USG to not actually grow anything.
If that money stayed in local communities, the south would explode in wealth over a few years. When it does happen, I guarantee neoconfederate sentiments will arise.
The south might as well seceded after the war, technically everything it fought against the USG for came to pass. It's largely dirt poor, almost wholly uneducated, largely religious due to the community aspect, and still very segregated and run-down while being decidedly more multicultural than basically anywhere in the Union.
If we get money, we get power, and we'll try to leave again. That or if the USG actually enacts gun restrictions, there will definitely be bloodshed over this in the south. There are exponentially more guns than people in my state.
>>55431120
>California isn;t in India.
Of course it is. Who do you think the EPA union thugs vote for, an what area of the country they're from?
>>55431167
You accused me of "photoshop", but I did get the google search wrong. It was "US literacy by state."
>>55431208
What the fuck does one retarded EPA employee have to do with any of this?
>>55431056
Nah I'm with you. I don't like it either when people throw in California mixed in with states like Massachusetts or New York, they really aren't at all the same politically, it's just that they show up as blue states the whole time. Illinois is another example I can think of that doesn't deserve it's degenerate state on /pol/. Outside Chicago (which is pretty conservative in the suburban area and white neighborhoods), it's horribly red.
About Cali, people like others have said before, see it as the same Cali they saw in the 1960s or 1970s and just can't accept the fact it's not that way. I think if anything, /pol/ has reassured itself too much that all blue states are degenerate. This is not the case. I'm pretty sure Mississippi, Alabama, and Louisiana and their welfare-laced population could rival that thereof.
>>55431098
>>55431167
That image falls apart when you realize the republicans aren't any more fiscally conservative than the dems. Unless you count tax breaks to billionaires and huge government military as "conservative".
>>55431180
>It's largely dirt poor, almost wholly uneducated,
>That or if the USG actually enacts gun restrictions, there will definitely be bloodshed
You're a Northerner, and a failed troll.
You need to keep it realistic if you want to do this, sport.
>>55430997
Berkeley is definitely an sjw haven.
It's been over run with chinks lately though since chinks are nothing but brand name zombies. Buying things or going to places only for the social status it brings in their own little world.
>>55431175
Yeah, it's called not funding your state properly and asking everyone else to bail you out. I'm okay with that, they only hurt themselves in the process really, but when they come back with accusations of "the north" ruining the country, it's just untrue. The southern states are a continuing economic disaster and an international embarrassment in terms of crime rates, political corruption, and absolute failures in all realms of education.
>>55430882
Dubious accuracy with 13% unknown. Also, that's food stamps only.
>>55431209
If you don't cite sources when you post "evidence", what's the point?
Only a Northerner is dumb enough to take anon's word for it.
And no, huffpo and other proven liars don't count.
>>55431268
Funny enough, 'What has Massachusetts done to deserve being lumped in with California?' is a common sentiment for us over here.
Our Gun policy could be better, sure. But that's about it.
>>55431272
I'm not accusing you of lying, but are you sure that chart is the right year? I know mine is for 2015, and yours clearly disagrees. Unless maybe the source is different?
>>55431298
You talk shit on chinks, but chinks brag by throwing money around. Whites brag by postinf a picture of them sucking black semen out of their wives cunt
Fuck you
>>55431298
I fail to see how that correlates with being a SJW haven though.
>>55431329
>>Yeah, it's called not funding your state properly and asking everyone else to bail you out.
Nope.
>get more or less the same federal funds as everyone else
>decide we don't need a massive state government
>suddenly the funds that everyone else gets constitutes more of the state's budget
>some mixed race yankee desperately construes this as bullshit about the south somehow being supported on federal tax dollars
>>55431098
>Doesn't change the fact that the plurality of welfare funbux go to whites.
Holy shit you are a fucking moron, rates are what matter. Can you even into math?
>>55431281
>Unless you count tax breaks to billionaires
They pay almost all of the taxes.
You went to school in the North, didn't you?
Here's another shocker for you:
No company of any size pays taxes. It's a 'stupid tax' that's passed along to consumers.
Where are the highest 'business taxes'? The North, of course.
>>55431332
Welfare is admittedly a very nebulous term. I generally interpret it as referring to the SNAP program. What else would you include?
>>55431352
Yeah, it's all totally what you make out of it at this point. Trust me, I definitely have seen worse here and outside America.
>>55431048
So conservative they adhered to traditional values by electing hollywood jew actor plants?
Cali hasnt been truly conservative since the cowboys died
>>55431388
Your chart is only for SNAP aka food stamps. Welfare is TANF.
TANF data is very old because they haven't published shit since 2010.
>>55431329
Everything you said is wrong and stupid.
Northerners always lose these arguments because they fight for their feels instead of using their brains.
>>55431448
Hollywood=/=California
Come on, Paco. You can do better.
>>55431435
>>55431388
>>55431398
Absolutely false. See image in below post:
>>55429473
Most southern states get over 35% of their state budget from the federal government. Louisiana, Tennessee, and Mississippi get over 40% of their budget from the federal government.
>>55431272
No, this is badly out of date, if not an outright fabrication.
The Northerner Obama is specifically giving benefits to "migrants".
No wonder it's unsourced.
>>55431492
>everything you said is wrong and stupid
Well do you have the sauces to prove it? Otherwise you're just a reverse shill like the rest of the inbred scum here.
>>55431560
Ok, you can't fucking read. Whatever.
>>55431492
Like when the south kept trying to ban Elvis and his devilish rock n' roll?
Please, the south has no moral or logical superiority.
>>55428863
B-b-but then my new England patriots couldn't play in the NFL, is this Rodger goodell?
>>55431559
The difference her is literally 0.1%, well within the margin of error, but it's admittedly ambiguous. We could probably debate this all night; it looks like there are more than a few different ways to calculate this and I doubt a forum argument is going to reach a satisfying conclusion for either side.
>>55431560
Like military. Highway funds (our states are much bigger). NASA and other research grants (the Gulf of Mexico is economically important to the whole country). Etc.
There are three kinds of lies:
1. Lies
2. Damned lies.
3. Statistics.
>>55431625
Away with you Shlomo. Don't you have /europol/ to shill upon? They're in need of more, not us.
>>55431584
>sauces
>reverse shill
>inbred scum
I think I'll pass.
>>55431296
>You're a northerner
>You need to keep it realistic
>>55431694
Then you just lost, lol
If y'all will have anything going on, I'm cheering for Texas, looks like the most ebin state from what I know.
I also like Colorado and Oregon for scenery tho.
Also looking for other states to visit while you have a burger thread going on here.
>>55431609
50 years ago.
Come on, anon. You aren't even trying.
>>55431268
I can't agree any more. I just think people don't get how we do things out here. they come from their small towns with all these fantasies about living here but when they get here they realize California isn't like they thought it would be.
>>55431393
They hardly throw any money around. Most are on some type of financial aid. And I'm not talking about our American Asians I'm talking about dirty fobs. Living 12 to a 1 bedroom student copying all the homework from the older students and memorizing all the tests. The few elite chinks who have money are pretty funny though. I have a funny story about one of them who had to increase his daily spending to help his dad launder more and more money into America.
>>55431395
Chinks mostly stay out of the liberal arts. They don't really participate in the sjwness of the campus. It's still an sjw haven because it's the #1 school for liberal kids outside of California. Think meadow soprano trying to get away from her dad in New Jersey because she wanted to live in some hippie paradise.
Hey guys. Can't we be friends? The North and the South should team up and really fuck over Kansas. Like really just fuck them over good.
>>55431718
Washington State and Utah are also pretty nice if you like scenery. Texas is nice in some areas, a wasteland in others.
>>55431648
Once again wrong. Admittedly this data is only for roads (it was the best I could find in under a minute), but it still indicates that southern states spend fuck all on their infrastructure. As for the NASA claim, they've only seen budget cuts for decades, they're a fraction of a percent of any one state's budget.
>>55431559
What's wrong with you people?
Source your "data" or don't bother.
Are we liberals now?
>>55431735
And Detroit collapsed about 40 years ago. You made the past fair game, faggot.
>>55431739
>Chinks mostly stay out of the liberal arts. They don't really participate in the sjwness of the campus. It's still an sjw haven because it's the #1 school for liberal kids outside of California. Think meadow soprano trying to get away from her dad in New Jersey because she wanted to live in some hippie paradise.
That I can't argue with. If by FOBs you mean the Chinese who don't want anything other than just to bring the degree back to China and just them, then that's also true. All Pac-12 colleges have them from my knowledge.
>>55431706
My three year old cousin chanted 'stupid head' at me the other day.
I also lot that battle of wits.
>>55431739
We came from china. Your costs are fucking INSANE in america. Of course we live 12 to a room and we dont cheat THAT much. But it is a part of our cukture.
Look we can be your allies in this. I dont even care if tou kick us all out eventually but stop the hate talk.
>>55431646
What you meant to say was, you just noticed how every other year Blacks have claimed more of the TANF money than whites and you don't want to get BTFO'd any harder. Non-Whites vastly overuse TANF based on their percentage of the population.
Also, you are right about the sketchy ways to calculate it. Some places like to include Social Security retirement payments because this massively skews the numbers back so blacks look less reprehensible.
>>55431781
Fuck you nigger scum. That snipped right off
http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/ofa/resource/character/fy2010/fy2010-chap10-ys-final
Maybe you could learn to do research on your own instead of being a little bitch who agrees to liberals points so you can get back to the important job of sucking more dick.
>>55431781
>Using the NY Post as a sauce
troll confirmed
![6a00d83451b54369e2013486807960970c-800wi[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/W80lQiu.jpg "6a00d83451b54369e2013486807960970c-800wi[1].jpg")
>>55428496
I don't think the rest of the country would try very hard to stop it, but at the same time, I don't see how the whole entitlements issue would be sorted out.
Independence means the feds are probably going to stop paying social security, Medicare, SSDI, food stamps, section 8, etc. to citizens of the new country.
More than anything else, I think that would kill an independence movement as it got going, because all the old people and other beneficiaries would veto the idea.
Independence becomes a hell of a lot more viable and realistic in the event that the feds no longer have the ability to make those kinds of transfer payments.
>>55431758
Texas was okay for the month I was there.
+nice weather
+well preserved nature areas
+neat wildlife
+no traffic
-fucking HUGE mosquitos
-also A TON of the bastards
-asshole drivers everywhere
-people were pretty fucking rude, but that's not that different from anywhere else
>>55431740
You've never been to Kansas.
The southeast corner is God's own paradise.
>>55431781
A Republican saying that Liberals don't show data!
LOAHHAHAHAHAHALAOALAOLOLol
Complete. Utter. Lack of self awareness.
>>55431758
Yeah, Utah's on my list, been in Texas already, was nice.
Also considering Michigan for dank lakes.
Thanks burgerbro.
>>55431851
It's really not that I thought I was losing our debate, it's a matter of the data. At the end of the day there's to many ways to tabulate what constitutes as "welfare programs", so there's too many different charts and statistics to compare. Unless we run our own damn study the real answer is up in the air and I doubt there's anything we can do about it on /pol/. I'm not bitter, seriously.
>>55431762
>Once again wrong
That's ok. I'm cutting you lots of slack.
I'll help you here, too.
Highway spending is political, and will vary greatly year-to-year.
You picked a year that shows what you want.
>>55430058
Veterans benefits are not fucking welfare
>>55431740
Kansas has proved quite capable of fucking its self over on its own.
>>55431799
It has continued to collapse, as everyone knows. As Baltimore has been and continues.
Detroit and Michigan have started electing Republicans, so maybe there's hope.
>>55431781
>>55431563
Just another fuck you to both of you. You and assholes like you are why we lose arguments to liberals in public.
How about you stop yearning for their approval so much that you try to shit stomp someone who just came in swinging on your side of the argument.
I'm spinning out browser windows to get useful data and actual government figures to counter this liberal lie about whites getting most of welfare payments, and I have to stop and deal with your chuckle fucks.
>>55431883
I digress about nice weather. It's usually too hot during the summer and I mean the humid type mixed in with the non-humid type, and trust me, that's hell. But everything else seems sensible. I have family from the Dallas area and suburban Dallas is really nice, although I'd never live there since I'm too used to living on the coast.
>>55431953
I just pick the most recent data, which means 2015. Not everything is a conspiracy.
>>55428886
>people think this looks trashy and uncivilized
>niggers in africa would consider this an amazing achievement
>>55431944
>Also considering Michigan for dank lakes.
I would go to Maine any day before Michigan if that is what you like, Portland is great. A Rusbro was actually my Uber driver last time I was there.
>>55431817
I'm talking about foreign chinks. Not Jonathan chan from Orange County but xiao lee from bungphuk china. It's a fucking shame they infiltrated our schools as much as they did. These schools keep increasing tuition costs while at the same time selling the opportunities of Americans to foreigners. Iranians are like chinks too except they don't cheat.
>>55431843
You literally all cheat except the girls. For some reason the Asian girls are on FUCKING POINT!! Some of the smartest girls I met at school were Asian. They made shit look so easy sometimes. If they had balls and they could speak English with no accent they would be quite the competition. But no fuck you and your cheater buddies living 12 to a room taking out extravagant loans raising the price for the rest of us.
>>55431996
Doubtful. The manufacturing jobs that held the regional economy up are in China now. Political leadership can't do anything about a fundamentally broken local economy short of a massive overhaul with a LOT of compliance from private entities.
>>55431996
If Detroit collapsed it's because of the motor industry falling on its face, this has nothing to do with politics even though the politicians who do run the city tend to be self-promoting blacks past and present to my knowledge.
>>55430314
Yup the great collapse 75 years ago that destroyed any possible chance to come back. Meanwhile in Hiroshima.
>>55432038
Eat a dick liberal scum.
>>55431887
America is a beautiful land filled eith he best quality english, scandis and germans
But paradise has borders.
We usedDto have a place called little switzerland because it resembled lake lacman, everyone was rich, safe, excellent skiing. Probably the same SIZE as switzerland too.
Then the mexicans came. The buildings are derelict, the lake is polluted, etc.
We NEED state independence.
>>55431857
It wasn't "sauce".
How are you not embarrassed to type that out?
This is what I hate about Northerners. They just aren't bright.
>>55432002
I live in southern CA. Rain every day is like a goddamned miracle. Please send us some!
>>55431905
I want to call attention to your post. You make my point better than I did.
Thanks.
>>55432088
I'm from SoCal but live in Seattle. I'd give you some of our rain if I could fellow Calibro.
>>55428496
This would only work if we simultaneously kicked out all niggers.
>>55432077
Japan has some of the highest infrastructure spending on the planet. It's hardly reasonable to compare Hiroshima to Detroit.
Would people from the independent Southern States still sing songs like in this link and feel patriotic while listening to them?
http://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1446519472739.webm
>>55432001
You put a lot of typing into expressing your feelings.
All in response to a joke picture and a statement of fact (obama giving welfare to migrants).
You'll always lose debates when you let your feelings take over.
Get a hold of yourself, anon.
Of course whites get more welfare payments. Whites are the majority, and smart enough to take advantage of this system that will collapse soon anyway.
>>55432168
If I could live anywhere else it would be Washington State, though I can't stand big cities. Is the snow as awful as people say?
>>55431948
>>55432038
BTFO'd
>>55432020
>I just pick the most recent data, which means 2015
The chart clearly says 2010.
>>55431948
It might not be a matter for debate, if you hadn't linked a deceptive chart in the first place.
Your info is actually from 2013. The most recent year data was available from. Also, in addition to the 12.8% "Unknown", 16% didn't answer at all, or nothing was recorded, so they were not included in the chart at all.
See the big fat note at the bottom of this chart direct from the 100+ page report from the USDA.gov website.
>>55432214
It snows in the mountain areas while Seattle gets rain. The mountain areas are also pretty nice, Eastern WA is boring though. Also, Seattle isn't that big of a city compared to what you might lump it in with. And contrary to popular belief, it's not overrun by leftists. Just stay away from Capitol Hill and you'll be fine.
>>55432180
Ya, probably because japan doesn't have niggers and liberal economic policies.
>>55432239
Shit you're right. I must be to tired for this.
isn't the south the industrial powerhouse of America? the north would likely fade into irrelevance
>>55432062
>If Detroit collapsed it's because of the motor industry falling on its face, this has nothing to do with politic
EVERYTHING is politics.
There's not one single public problem that can't be directly traced back to politicians.
In this case, high taxes and mandatory unions.
>>55432180
I'll bet that Detroit had more public spending than Hiroshima.
The Japanese don't tend to destroy their own cities.
>>55428496
If Texas seceded, it would become its own Republic.
If the rest of the south seceded, it would quickly collapse from lack of welfare benefits.
>>55432206
No. They fucking don't. The only way you can get that result is if you count Social Security retirement benefits as part of welfare. Only then do the sheer number of whites and our longer lifespans finally outweigh the gibsmedat of blacks and mexicans.
>>55432239
Classic liberal shithead move. There almost certainly isn't data for 2015. At best you'll find 2013 data mislabeled. Lots of data will be 2010 because it was a census year. 2014 data, where it will be made available at all, will come out next month. Welcome to government accountability.
>>55432258
Well shit, I didn't even notice that. That's my second dumb mistake for the night so I'll be bowing out for now. I shouldn't try to engage in /pol/ debates 1AM after a full day of work and a flu shot, I guess.
>>55432278
>I must be to tired for this
>too
You're doing fine, anon.
We don't expect much from a Northerner.
>>55430058
You really don't realize who youd be killing if you cut off federal aid in the south
>>55430430
>california
>southern
that's the east coast, faggot
>>55432364
Whites get more in food stamps. The Feds specifically targeted them. The problem for them in 2010 was "mountain pride".
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2012/08/mountain_pride_versus_the_welfare_state.html
Then the democrats took away all the jobs.
What other options are left?
>Classic liberal shithead move. There almost certainly isn't data for 2015
Anon said his data was 2015. It's labelled 2010.
He's not a liberal shithead. He was just unprepared to debate a Southerner.
>>55432400
You couldn't have noticed it. HuffPo repackaged the chart without the supporting info.
Full chart is much more interesting too. Like the vast percentages of whites who are getting food stamps who are eldery, or disabled. Again, our longer lifespans and demographic superiority work against us.
Because the data is household based, I can't make great claims, but if I were HuffPo, I coudl easily repackage that chart without context and claim that 90.1% of whites on food stamps are elderly or disabled. Meanwhile, the same is true of less than half of blacks (49.8%) getting food stamps.
>>55432482
>that's the east coast, faggot
>Uruguay
The last time this tried to happen the majority of the midwest was barely colonized.
This time will the "South" include places like Arizona, Montana, Idaho, Utah, Nebraska, etc? All of them are rather red states.
>>55432663
The West is out of the North vs. South debate imo. Those states you mentioned don't really allign with the "Southern" culture either. More or less, it's their own type of political backdrop.
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>>55432718
I thought Arizona was Texas lite.
>>55432565
Yes, but food stamps are hardly the end all, be all of welfare by anyone's definition.
There's literal welfare cash payments, which whites still don't claim a plurality of, and don't even come fucking close to claiming the majority of. Hispanics are the worst offenders there because their anchor babies can stay on it for life even after the parents are kicked off or DQ'd due to illegal status.
Even I'm not prepared to crawl through the medicaid and SCHIP numbers, but I doubt the trend will shift.
And look at >>55432593
The white food stamp plurality is 90% households supporting elderly or disabled family members. Notwithstanding some overlap of households with both elderly and disabled non-elderly family members. Current reporting doesn't allow me to be more specific.
>>55432727
Yes and no. But interestingly I do find Arizona much more red than Texas either way.
>>55432792
>I do find Arizona much more red than Texas either way.
Cause it is.
>>55428886
>history
We don't get shit from the south, the South is just a money pit filled with nignogs and rednecks. Bunch of backward sweet potato pie eating losers
>>55430065
back in my days, we ate oreos without permission, if a kid had a severe allergic reaction and died or tyrone stole it then shot the kid that was their problem!
>>55430307
You rebel fags should try to leave, we need to finish the job that we failed. Just cull the land of rednecks and it give it to the niggers.
>America loses ~75% of its niggers
Yes please.
The biggest ports in the US are in Louisiana and Texas so yes.
>>55433021
I fully support this.
The rest of the US should just take nukes to the South, then let the niggers move in after we've killed off all you worthless hicks who keep dragging down the country.
I see more value and dignity in a nigger with a job, than a bitter white male virgin living at home, blaming his virginity on jews and blacks.
Start the Southern Genocide!
Kill off all those useless rebels who still fuck their mothers and aunts while being on welfare.
>>55433114
>America never has another conservative president again thanks to all the red states leaving
>Bernie Sanders elected president til he dies
>Niggers hate their new country in the south without the Federal government there to stick up for them anymore.
>Niggers all start moving north because it is a liberal open border paradise
>White southerners sit back and laugh as the nigger parasite finds its new host
>South becomes even more conservative now that the blacks left
>White mans paradise
Really would be a win-win for the south, I'd be lining up to move there.
>>55433306
>m-muh proportions
>accuse their own kind of voting left for "more welfare checks"
>I post this, I get told to go back to Reddit
Gotta love the trailer park scum here.
>>55430402
Based Nevada and Montana
