The internet is a human right. Discuss.
Shit posting is a human right. Discuss.
>>55424124
Nope
>>55424124
Sensible access to the internet is a human right. Just like how access to food is a human right. You still have to pay for it.
There is state / government funded access to internet for crucial services available at libraries, job centers and other places.
>>55424124
>Just like how access to food is a human right. You still have to pay for it.
So that's why poor countries pay for humanitarian aid, right? Oh wait, they don't.
>>55424124
Its not
>>55424124
How?
The internet did not exist for most of human history
Why did it magically go from no existing to a right?
>>55424455
This,
its not a human right if it costs someone else or is a resource of sorts
>takes effort and resources to be provided to you
>right
pick one.
>Human "right"
>>55424514
>>55424568
>literally arguing there are zero human rights
>>55424124
In a non-religious society, there are no innate human rights. It would be nice if the internet was free, but there are no real innate rights.
Therefore you can discuss that it should be extended to people, but it's ridiculous to argue something as being an innate human right in a non-religious context. It's a service and you either socialize it or you don't. You can't make some strongarm cosmic moral blackmailing argument that it's a human right and it should therefore be socialized and granted to plebs de facto by the government.
Humans are not entitled to the fruits of all technological progress without limitation. r selection niggers can get fucked.
Cücking white people is a human right.
>>55424124
It is a privilege, not a right.
>>55424494
Because everything that must be done to get ahead in life can only be done through the internet. Applying for jobs, communication, applying for government health care, identification, setting up doctors appointments, and many other services necessary to live are primarily administered online. Not to mention that finding these services is next to impossible without an internet connection.
Think about what your life would be like without the internet. I'm sure you couldn't do 99% of the things you normally do in the day if your internet was taken away.
>>55424634
>it takes effort to let you say something
>it takes effort to let you have a gun
>it takes effort to let you protest on public land
>it takes effort to not force you to quarter soldiers
You fucking moron.
>>55424802
>it takes effort to let you protest on public land
Can we get muscle over here to get rid of this guy?
>>55424634
>life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness
>costing effort and resources to be provided to you
wut?
>inb4 it costs money to defend them
Yeah, but we're not defending internet access, aka preventing people from taking it away. We are actively providing it to them. How about you go protest the water shutoffs in Detroit champ? That seems like a better use of your time.
>mfw people actively support the idea that people who don't pay their bills shouldn't have their water shut off
>mfw there is a huge river literally running right by the city, and a bucket costs like 2 dollars
>>55424908
*rubs tits on your arm*
>OMG SEXUAL ASSAULT SEXUAL ASSAULT RAPIST RAPIST
>>55424802
>it takes effort to protect your right to say something from those who wish to silence you
>it takes effort to prevent legally purchased guns from getting into the hands of those who would use them illegally
>it takes effort to maintain public lands and make them suitable for general use by the public, and to maintain them from wear and tear / property damage from having protests, rally's and other public gatherings
>it takes effort to build barracks and garrison in structures when soldiers can be sheltered in preexisting structures owned by those directly benefiting from their country men putting their lives on the line fighting for them
-_-
>>55424124
The internet is killing mankind
The internet is a human right. All prisons should provide adequate accommodations to their prisoners.
>>55424918
>Yeah, but we're not defending internet access, aka preventing people from taking it away.
That is literally all the right to internet access is. You are not given a fucking internet connection for free. All it does it mandates that internet access be available to you, if you choose to pay for one, and available at reasonable prices.
That is literally all the right to internet is.
>>55424713
>In a non-religious society, there are no innate human rights.
The U.S. is secular and the constitution grants rights inherent to U.S. citizens.
It isn't a human right. Discussed.
>>55425037
>it takes effort to protect your right to say something from those who wish to silence you
The right to free speech does not protect you from other private individuals who wish to legally censor you
>it takes effort to prevent legally purchased guns from getting into the hands of those who would use them illegally
Separate issue. To allow you to have them takes no effort. The government can put in effort if it wants but to maintain the fundamental right no effort needs to be supplied.
>it takes effort to maintain public lands and make them suitable for general use by the public, and to maintain them from wear and tear / property damage from having protests, rally's and other public gatherings
Nowhere does it specify that you must protest on well kempt and public land.
>it takes effort to build barracks and garrison in structures when soldiers can be sheltered in preexisting structures owned by those directly benefiting from their country men putting their lives on the line fighting for them
Those preexisting structures can be school, business, etc. because the amendment specifies "home".
Probably baiting anyway because no one can be this stupid.
>>55424124
No. It isn't.
Your priorities are not in correct order, therefore you are either a child or a baiter.
Please leave, and think about how stupid your post is.
/thread.
>>giving every nigger free internet
It was bad enough when normies and women came on
>>55425270
Constitution does not grant humans rights, the constitution defines rights that have been granted to us by God.
Being free from the all-reaching power of the internet should be a human right.
Like, you should be able to have a normal social life without feeling obligated to use Facebook
>>55424124
>positive rights
One of the memes killing the West.
>>55425233
>All it does it mandates that internet access be available to you, if you choose to pay for one, and available at reasonable prices.
No, that is the exact same thing as consuming effort and resources to provide a service to you. Choosing not to use the service does not change that.
I don't have internet access because it's a protected human right. I have internet access because I don't live in Somalia or North Korea, and I pay a company to act as my internet service provider. They don't offer me the service because it's a human right. They offer me the service because I pay them to.
>>55425406
its zuckerbergs jew ass . he wont be happy until every one has a jewbook account
>>55424124
Hey OP, ready to have your shit fucked up?
Where are human rights determined from?
>>55425270
>the constitution grants rights inherent to U.S. citizens.
>grants
No idiot, it defines rights that are inherent to humanity (God given, natural, born-with, whatever the fuck), and bars the government or other entities from infringing on those rights.
I'm not even necessarily agreeing with the other dude, but the Constitution does not "grant" anything (other than the powers of government, maybe).
The government should then have free reign to monitor the internet and all your data in order to ensure you're rights are upheld.
>>55425037
>>it takes effort to build barracks and garrison in structures when soldiers can be sheltered in preexisting structures owned by those directly benefiting from their country men putting their lives on the line fighting for them
There is no "right" to a military. The right in question is the "right" of not having soldiers housed in your home against your will. Is conflating separate issues something they teach in Canada?
>Kills your attention span with instant gratification and information overload
>Forces you into social media cul-de-sacs, killing your creativity and making you a passive consumer
>Makes you think your opinion matters, thereby making you a bigheaded opinionated faggot
>Access to knowledge, and the general tech-illiteracy of previous generations gives you a superiority complex
>Gives you an excuse to stay at your computer all day and do nothing, deluding yourself into believing you have a social life
>Will validate every shitty little thing you do, because as fucked up as you are, there's always plenty people on the other side of the world as fucked up as you
>Encourages slacktivism through social media and blogs
I would fucking hate to see a society where everyone has the right to the internet.
>>55424124
Venezuela made water a human right.
They wrote it into their constitution.
They told merchants they could only charge so much for water.
Now the merchants don't sell water because they would lose money.
Soft drinks aren't a right, so its available to buy and drink.
Venezuela now has a program to fight its obesity epidemic.
>>55425451
Fourth amendment right against unreasonable search and seizure didn't originate from scripture -- neither did freedom of speech, right to assistance of counsel, trial by jury etc.
However, if you're arguing that human rights are things like water/food/freedom from persecution or anything else fundamental to preserving human life, then I can understand that those things are distinct from rights granted under the constitution.
>>55425549
I don't personally give a flying fuck about what Humans believe they are entitled to in this incredibly short instance of what they call a lifespan.
They should be grateful for existing in the first place, outpacing literally 4 million other potentials in the race for fertilization, and for the fact they exist as Humans, and not as Phytoplankton. Seriously.
You are Human beings, the most intelligent, powerful, and apex creature on the planet that you inhabit.
And your complain is not having Internet?
I shudder with both fear and anticipation to think how this current age of Humanity will survive without their precious toys.
>>55425315
>The right to free speech does not protect you from other private individuals who wish to legally censor you
There is no such thing as free speech if there is a legal way to censor someone, just an fyi
>To allow you to have them takes no effort
However an unabridged supply of weapons does technically violate other rights - as much of a lib argument as it is, allowing the 7th Street Rollers to purchase chemical weapons - which you would be unable to exercise your right to self defense / life & liberty / etc against if used on you - violates other rights. Rights do not exist in a vacuum and actively effect, alter and balance against other rights.
You could technically say someone has a right to two separate things that contradict each other - how could both rights exist if they actively infringe on the other right?
>Nowhere does it specify that you must protest on well kept and public land
Public land is maintained and kept for other purposes - and is then used for rallys. People trampling on the grass costs time, effort and tax dollars to maintain. If the government made a law that said public protests may only take place on unassumed and unmaintained land (as maintaining it no longer makes it "public" and instead government property) you would argue against it.
>"because the amendment specifies "home"
Why is your right specifying your home if the government can just shove a bunch of soldiers inside your place of income, making you unable to afford your home?
>>55425524
>No, that is the exact same thing as consuming effort and resources to provide a service to you. Choosing not to use the service does not change that.
How does not having an internet connection and not paying Comcast for an internet connection consume effort and resources?
>>55425723
>There is no "right" to a military
Right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness bud. Domino effect to protect that results in every nation on the planet having some form of military or police.
>The right in question is the "right" of not having soldiers housed in your home against your will.
Why is this even a right though? It doesn't take effort or resources to let a soldier sleep on your couch.
>>55425731
You understand Canada follows the UN's Reports on the whole "Right to Internet Access" things, right, and we continue to follow most of their suggestions?
>>55424124
Rights are a social contruct
>>55424634
Fucking idiot. You probably think you're clever too.
>>55424124
All human rights should be abolished and converted to privilege system. You buy privilege, you gain status. You have no privilege; you are now living, breathing organ pouch for the privileged ones.
>>55424124
Providing internet is a service.
You pay for it through an internet service provider.
