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>We need more welders and less philosophers.
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>implying he isnt accurate.

Because a philosopher will be able to use that skill in an industry that is actually needed by this country right?
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>>55410359
What philosophers do you have? Sam Harris Don't make me laugh

We need more workers. Less edgy teen enablers.
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>>55410359
too pussy to say women's studies and communications professors

wants that women vote
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>>55410500
With increasing automation the use of skilless jobs are less sought upon, the rise of freethinkers in society can only improve the lives of everybody
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>>55410772
By doubling the national debt and leaving no way to repay it?
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>>55410359
less community organizers
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>>55410772
>Hmmmm let me ponder about what gender/sexuality I should make up today
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>>55410772
we need the Triad ending from Deus Ex
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>>55411144

Calling "gender studies" philosophy is like calling timecube.com physics.
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>>55410963
The solution is to end university monopoly on educational material and let people have access to JSTOR articles 4free
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>>55411334
>triggered
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>>55410359
>>55410995
Fewer
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America is the most plebian nation, millions of Americans agree with him
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>>55411289
Dark Age
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>>55411505

We need more welders and less linguists.
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>>55411402
Because there's nothing a nigger loves doing more than reading.
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>>55411334
This nigga knows what's up.
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>>55410772

That's cool, maybe I'll find a job at the free thinker warehouse or conglomerate that will open up in the future..... Oh wait, I'll end up working at Starbucks or even shttier coffee sloots like current "free thinkers "
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we need more prostitutes, fewer baristas desu senpai
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>>55410772
Exactly the opposite is happening though.
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>>55411554
We'd keep the medicinal knowledge, that's all that's important. You could figure out electricity in a safer way
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RANK THEM!

>TRUMP
>CRUZ
>RAND
>RUBIO
>FIORINA
>CARSON
>KASICH
>BUSH
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>>55411334
>insulting the glorious theory of timecube

We need less Philosophy professors. Philosophers make good lawyers and business men. Look at Carly up there, she's doing pretty well gore a philosophy major.
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>>55411643

Philosophy majors, the top ones, are actually much more intelligent than the majority of college graduates. Critical thinking can be applied in any field.

Also, money isn't everything.
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>>55412191
I'm smarter than all y'all but I ain't got a job.
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Welder here
fuck off we're full
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>>55411547
I want spooks to leave.
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>>55410963
the debt is meaningless
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>>55412056
Trump
Cruz
Carson

The rest are garbage.
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>>55412273

I actually get paid to do philosophy, so fuck off pussy.
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Not watching it until tomorrow, is Bush finished?

How are Trump and Cruz doing?
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>>55412486
Who employs you?
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>>55412562

A major research institution in North America.
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>>55412392
The national debt is meaningless, the jobless liberal says.
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>>55412191

>Critical thinking can be applied in any field.

Hard to apply yourself as a free thinker when you're surrounded by a bunch of stupid lazy fucking idiots.
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>>55412438
Cruz is a snake (wife works for Goldman Sachs and he sucks up to Jews) and Carson is a joke.

Trump and Paul are the only ones worth supporting, Trump because he can win and Paul if you're more ideological.
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>>55410359
You idiots do realize that he just means we need less people with bachelor's degrees flipping burgers, right?
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>>55412695
Facebook?
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>>55412191
I majored in philosophy and everyone in my class smoked weed and thought they were the next Sophocles. The only reason we chose philosophy is because we had no idea what to do with ourlives. Now I'm working at McDonald's and living with my parents.
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>>55410359
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FruENbeFxl0
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>>55411289
Do they even have an ending?
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>>55412191
>niggas who say they don't care about money have no money!
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>>55412715
you're closer to the fucking poverty line than me u fucking ignorant conservative if you really gave a fuck about the debt you be bitching about both the useless wars your brain president started
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>>55412769

You actually sound full of shit given that Sophocles was a Greek dramatist. You mean Socrates.

I just think you're lying. People do think we smoke weed all day and talk about "life, man."

Fuck that. We do logic and metaphysics and ask questions that plebs can't even wrap their heads around.
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all the euphoric neckbeards got triggered
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The only Philosophy major I know needs it for his job.
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>>55410359
How can you vote for this political consultant crafted test-tube baby? He is literally the definition of a typical politician.
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>>55410500

you failed to make logical argumentation. so indeed we need more philosophers.
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>>55413274
Enlighten us with what questions you speak of.

Moral quandries?
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>>55410359
It's hard enough to be a philosopher as it is....
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>>55413469
Philosophy isn't logic. It's theory masturbation.
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>>55410359
Most philosophers coming through the university system are infact cultural Marxists.
We need more Philosophers that come from the British-Roman-Greek lineage.
Less psychologists, 'criminologists' and gender studies degrees more Plato, Cicero and Milton. (for example)
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>>55413274
Okay I confused them but whatever. My major is literally shit. Yeah the topic is cool. But nobody wants to hire me and they know it's literally a joke. Like Comminications.
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>>55412191
>money isn't everything
>you might feel differently if you had a real job and made some
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>>55410359

Spend 5 minutes on /lit/ and you would find it hard to disagree
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>>55413678
>I don't know any philosophy.
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>>55413222
There exists a person on this planet who actually liked Bush and didn't vote for him simply because he was the least worst possible candidate?
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>>55413274
>ask questions that plebs can't even wrap their heads around.

example please
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>>55410359

So, how long until he resigns and starts welding?

Oh I forgot, he's too good to get a real fucking job. Who WOULD give up that Jew cash from the lobbyists?
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>>55412191
>major in what you love!
>major in philosophy because I loved philosophy
>make shit pay at fast food restaurant and job stressful as fuck
Fuck off with that bullshit of you what interests you. Major in what's employable. Obviously if you absolutely detest the subject don't do it. But if you can deal with it do it.
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>>55413614

Value theory is merely one area of the discipline.

You should probably just take a course in metaphysics.
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>>55413414
He spouts enough conservative talking points to get mindless retards to like him, and his name is easy to remember. That's really all it takes to get a vote in US, spout talking points and tow your party line hard.
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A Philosophy degree isn't even worth the paper it's printed on. You might as well just kill yourself now to avoid the 50 years of misery, poverty, and underemployment you are staring at. The best case scenario is that you end up with a teaching job at a University somewhere and maybe get tenure by 50. Have fun being poor and providing little value to society. Hell, a fry cook at McDonald's provides a more valuable service to society and costs a hell of a lot less to employ.
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>>55413469

Logic is far more related to mathematics than it is to philosophy.
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>>55410359
remember when natural philosophy lead to math and science? remember when analytic philosophy and logic created computer science?

No? HURR DURR PHILOSOPHY IS USELESS
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>>55414362
do you remember the last time your bank account had money in it?
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>>55412191
>I don't need to know any geotechnical principals to build this bridge
>I'm a philosopher, I can critically think my way through it
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>>55412738

Every politician sucks up to jews. Cruz is probably the best balance between Trump and Paul.
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>>55414171
I am not encouraging everyone to major in philosophy. Only a few elite people can survive in the field.

Honestly, I support trade schools for most people. Many have no interest in intellectual activity. They just want to go to school to party and attempt to get laid.

That's fine. But there are less expensive ways to do those things than 4 years an a university.
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>>55413274

>we do logic and metaphysics
>do logic
>not use logic

fucking retard.
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>>55411547

>government by quota

ITS THE CURRENT YEAR
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>>55412769
Most people go into philosophy thinking they're the hottest shit on the plate and want to impress people with fancy philosophical prose drivel. The world needs more 'actual' philosophers more than anything else, not sophist taught philosopher analysts who read but don't act.
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What we really need is more STEM researchers.
These people are like philosophers but they think about useful things.
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>>55414131
Necessary and sufficient conditions for personal identity.
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Welding isn't even a shit tier job. You wont ever be super rich but you would be comfortable with plenty of disposable income.
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>>55414608
but sadly they all just support our elite/jew overlords and their companies. we need more independent science, but that's taboo
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>>55412392
Hey Paul
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>>55414503

Obviously you've never heard of research in logic...
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>>55414639
>personal identity

rachel dolezal, caitlyn jenner, etc
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DURR

http://forward.com/news/breaking-news/323640/8-jewish-things-about-marco-rubio/
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>>55410359
Why cant a welder philosophise in his down time. OR while welding.
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>>55414890

No. No in so many ways.
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>>55414787
The problem is, nobody is about to fund independent science on any meaningful scale.
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*fewer
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>>55415004
so you want to increase workplace accidents?

are you currently employed by the insurance industry?
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Philosophy hadn't any meaningful result since mathematics and logic separated from that hack field. Lingustics is becoming a formal science and everything else is jerkoff.
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>>55415184
You've clearly never worked a trade job. I argue with Kant while I lunch down 110 blocks
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>>55414552

>he world needs more 'actual' philosophers more than anything else, not sophist taught philosopher analysts who read but don't act.

That's the cost of having a highly abstract discipline like philosophy. You get a lot of bullshit in it since it's removed from the straightforward, mundane concerns of tasks like welding, but you also get your Isaac Newtons who end up creating what will become the hard sciences of a thousand years from now. You don't really get to say only Isaac Newtons are allowed either since it's not immediately clear what is or isn't going to end up being extremely useful in the future.
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we need more of both
if you think philosophy is useless you're an idiot tbqh
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>>55415630
>but you also get your Isaac Newtons who end up creating what will become the hard sciences of a thousand years from now
wut? newton was a polymath rich enough to have a socrates/plato learning relationship
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>>55415841

How does that conflict with what I wrote?
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>>55415800
Show any meaningful result from philosophy in the modern age. I mean, something that has revolutionized humanity's progress through history.
And please do not say francis bacon or popper, philosophy of science is useful because science is useful and for some reason reasoning about the methodology of science is philosophy.
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>>55415540
Obviously not, I went to Med School because I'm not a retard.
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>>55416501
philosophy is being actively suppressed by society
Nietzsche's ideas would get him run out of academia today
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>>55416501

You just sound like someone who doesn't care about knowledge. Naturally, philosophy isn't going to be appealing to you.

Nevertheless, various enlightenment thinkers influenced the development of several constitutions, most notably that of the US. I'd say that has had a pretty big impact on humanity's progress.

But really, I don't give a fuck. People who care exclusively about practical things, who can't see why someone would explore a topic that doesn't have an immediate pragmatic upshot... well, they're just not aristocratic enough.
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>>55417126
>Nietzsche's ideas would get him run out of academia today
He was run out of academia in his own day retard after publishing The Birth of Tragedy
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>>55417294
aristocracy is by defininition antiquated
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should it be fewer or is my grammar shit senpai
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>>55416501
Partially this: >>55417126
Also, imagine if people like Ayn Rand sat by and watch the West go full commietard.
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>>55417126
That's a pretty bold statement. It is more possible that philosophy has no value in today's society.

Also, even though postmodernism is not a concrete philosophical movement, most modern philosophy has brought what /pol/ hates most: feminism, gender studies, LGBT studies etc. You could argue that is not real philosophy, but then what it is? Niche? Hahaha, ur irrelevant m8.
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>>55417457

No, it isn't. Natural aristocracy. People who are cultured enough to entertain ideas that don't have immediate practical upshots.

People complaining about philosophy are the same people who don't 'get' modern art. They aren't cultured. Why should I answer them?
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>>55417690

Postmodernism is not taken seriously in the most prestigious philosophy departments in North America.

Don't blame philosophers. Blame philosophers in Europe for that abortion on wheels.
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>>55410539
that was his point
he was saying getting a philosophy degree in the US doesn't make someone successful.

I.E. Philosophy degrees don't help society as much as workers help society.
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>>55417690
>most modern philosophy has brought what /pol/ hates most
philosophy underpins literally everything so yes of course it also brings about the bad
philosophy controls how we interpret the world so it can never actually be irrelevant
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>philosophy
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>>55416501

>Show any meaningful result from philosophy in the modern age.

You know the computer you typed that sentence on?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computing_Machinery_and_Intelligence
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>we need more dirt cheap workers instead of academics because i can't wait to dismantle and undercut the education system so i can bring in millions upon millions of more mexicans to work for next to nothing building more and more foreign owned investment property

gg rubi0
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>>55410359
>We need more slaves and less people who know how to read.

No one ever said a welder couldn't also be a philosopher too. Fuck this guy for telling people not to think.
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>>55416501
alan turing was a huge fan of bertrand russell and studied his works

So...every computer in the world
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>>55418842
turing was mentally ill
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This is in response to a question which was, welders etc are being increasingly replaced by robots. He totally dodged the question.
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>>55418900

This is true, but he nonetheless used his mentally ill brain to create the philosophical works that allowed for the computers we're communicating through right now to exist. So I think it's fair to say his global contributions greatly outweigh his personal degeneracy.
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>>55419037
robots are not replacing welders

who the fuck are these dickheads asking these questions
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ITT: People who haven't read any texts on philosophy talking about philosophy.
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>>55419147
Well, they didn't ask that. They asked, "the economy is increasingly investors and innovators while robots are replacing the old lower class jobs, wat do" and the Rubio went on this whole speel in which OP's quote was the closest he came to the question.
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>>55412695
>he says major research institution
>instead of the proper title, institute
>could have made up a more convincing lie, like he works for a think-tank

youre a faggot.
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America needs genius sperm banks. Intelligent/talented people are more productive! Their minds can do so much more than the common rabble. The world is full of common mediocre people who contribute nothing towards advancing humanity.
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>>55410359
Philosophy is a waste of fucking time.


Either follow a religion or shut the fuck up.
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>>55419267
robots are not replacing "lower class" jobs

why do these sensationalist fuckwits want everyone to believe that we are living in some orwellian dystopia...
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>>55417294
>Someone who doesn't care about knowledge
Why do all philosophers are pretentious assholes? You are mot special, you are not more knowledgeable, that is why most people despise you.

First of all, every aristocrat was considered a philosopher because doing philosophy falls on almost anything that requires thinking. So in that sense Newton was a philosopher as much as Descartes or Voltaire. So it loses any meaning to say that philosophy was responsible for the legal documents that changed the world. Yes I agree that the ideals a country have are in its form, philosophical, but these ideals spawn from the population of a nation, not because some aristocrat said it.

>>55418496
O God you are grasping straws if you seriously think that has anything to do with compsci/engeering
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>>55414883
obviously you've never been properly educated in the Queen's, you fucking mouth-breathing faggot.
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>>55419318

No, you idiot. I'm an academic with a name to protect. You think I'm going to release my name and position on 4chan?

You're retarded.
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/HIS/
/LIT/
ABSOLUTELY BTFO
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>>55419400
ridiculous
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>>55412769
Phil major here. Can confirm this post. I'm an iorn worker now. Fuggin liberal arts.
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>>55419413

So Locke wasn't a philosopher? OK.
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>>55414689
You got one eye on what you want, one eye on what you neeeed.
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>>55410359
he's not wrong
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>>55418842
Bertrand Russell was a mathematicians and logician whose set-theoretic vision of math changed most of modern mathematics. Currently you see logicians in mathematics faculties. He is considered a philosopher first because it was at a time that mathematical foundation was met with much skepticism.

There is a reason modern philosophers hate analytical philosophy because it became more mathematics and linguistics.
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>>55419490
This is bullshit. Research institutes are barely employing persons with properly-applied backgrounds, like educational psychology. What kind of retards do you take us for to believe anyone would employ a flawed version of wiki-philosophy?

Your alleged "study" is Humanities-based and thus virtually meaningless. A dime-a-dozen graduate. There are about 4 Canadian "academic" philosophers who make any real headway outside of left-wing universities.

You are not one of them.

Do you really think anyone on /pol/ is impressed by some pseudo-intellectual pretending he's accomplished?

We all know you're full of shit.
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>>55419926
America is the leader in analytic philosophy. It's a staple in an American philosophy education. Go to Europe if you want to study continental.
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>>55419926
That's a complete mischaracterization of the subject. You don't know much about contemporary metaphysics if you don't think it is deeply concerned with logic.

I'd wager that if you asked Russell, he'd say he was a philosopher. Philosophy and logic are intimately intertwined.
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>>55419413

Turing has everything to do with computer science you retard. He's the guy who formalized what computation means. The electronic engineer who drew the hardware designs for the first electronic stored-program digital computer worked directly off of Turing's specifications.
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>>55420038

By "major research institution" I just meant large university that focuses on research. I don't work at a think tank; I'm an academic.

Left wing universities? WTF? Are you Ted Cruz?

All I claimed was that I am paid to do philosophy. That, my friend, is true.
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>>55419744
His ideas serve to merely expose social phenomena at that time, his influence was reserved to a minority of rich people.

I'm not cynical enough to say his work is pure mumbo jumbo, but rather that he used evidence from the vast social moments that were happening at his time. If every social scientist would do this it would be great, but philosophy is still hardwired to reject the fact that our rational is really fucking limited. He also was an emipricist I belive, so thats that. But then we have all that French mumbo jumbo that dares to say that science and math are western ideologies etc.etc.

To be concrete you could separate good philosophy and bad philosophy with philosophy that uses the scientific method (STEM and some branches of the social sciences) and bad philosophy or everything else. You canmot tell me ethics has failed miserably.
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>>55410359
Philosophy majors on suicide watch.

They knew what they were getting themselves into!
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>>55420378
I'm not autistic enough to keep up an argument on /pol/ with another autist.

>Fuck that. We do logic and metaphysics and ask questions that plebs can't even wrap their heads around.

The fact that you say you "do" logic and you engage with questions "plebs can't wrap their heads around" leads me to believe:

1) you are unaware of the proper usage of the Queen's
2) you can other people plebs. Not only does that hint at a superiority complex, but it sounds inherently like youre trying to "prove" you don't belong to a certain class

any retard in academia worth his salt is above those conditions.

UBC and McGill are the only internationally-respected schools outside of Ontario. The only other philosophy department that is noteworthy is UofT and theyre all a bunch of faggots. So, chances are, youre in that bunch.

also this is /pol/, are you really going to argue universities in canada aren't slanted to the hard left?

You're not convincing anyone that a university "pays you to do philosophy".

This is such an incredibly autistic conversation that I doubt I can continue.
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>>55420236
Yes, he was a mathematician. He is know for mathematics and compsci, not philosophy. Your vision abour intelligence and compsci is pure popsci by hacks.
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>>55417294

Why do you always give half-assed responses with any sources. Vagueness is philosophy, I guess.

In what way can "philosophers" advance society? A society would come to the same conclusions without pseudo intellectuals
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>>55420898

So do you deny advances in logic? Those are decidedly non-empirical.
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>>55421383
I meant without any sources... Dammit
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>>55410359
Sí señor Rubio!
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>>55421136
look at wikipedia

"Bertrand Russell was a British philosopher, logician, mathematician, historian, writer, social critic and political activist." It's the first entry

"He is considered one of the founders of analytic philosophy along with his predecessor Gottlob Frege, colleague G. E. Moore, and his protégé Ludwig Wittgenstein. He is widely held to be one of the 20th century's premier logicians."

He had a lot of influence on mathematics and compsci but he was a philosopher first and foremost.

He wrote A History of Western Philosophy for god's sake
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>>55420147
Thats what I said dipshit, but logic has grew out of philosophy into a mathematical Institute and to linguistics. Yes, if you want to have a complete understanding of this subjects you need to start with Aristotle, but in modern times a logician is mathematician .

Bertrand Russell's principia matematica is a beautiful book that is fundamental to modern set theory and that is mathematics.
>>55421489
You must be pretty delusional if you think logic is not a branch of mathematics nowdays. And if you say mathematics is philosophy well, then every fucking thing is philosophy and a philosopher major then shoudl be a trained scientists, mathematiciam besides being just an intellectual jerkoff.
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>>55411289

>mfw that was the best ending
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>>55421757
You start with Plato.
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>>55410772
Yeah we need more minds like Marx and Lenin to increase our standard of living
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>>55421747
Yes you idiot. But the influence he had with mathematicians, including Turin, was becasue of the MATHEMATICS he did. Read a fucking book about set theory.

That he also wrote alot about philosophy and politics is somethin peripheral to his contribution to math. Thats lime saying NEWTON WAS A PHILOSOPHER BECAUSE HE WROTE ABOUT THEOLOGY WHY DO I LIKE TO EAT SHIT.
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>>55421383
>In what way can "philosophers" advance society?

The works of Aristotle provided the basic principles of modern logic.

Not to mention that he also had a profound impact on Alexander the Great.

You could say that philosophers "advanced" society by providing the basis for which it could grow.
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>>55421913
Im pretty sure Aristotle made the foundations of formal language and formal arguments.
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>>55421041

People who use the phrase "do logic" all the time. This is quite common for people in the field.

UT is the highest ranked philosophy department in Canada. It ranks well above McGill, which is slipping in recent years.

Universities are slanted hard left. Not sure how this impacts metaphysics, epistemology, logic, and various other branches of philosophy outside of select areas of value theory.

Tell me: where did you go to school and what do you do? All I claimed was that I am paid to do philosophy and this is absolutely true. I didn't claim it was the greatest thing on earth; I just defended it form the losers who think they're hot shit for studying fields that translate into high pay.

Trust me. I've graded tests for STEM students. They are good with numbers, not with critical thinking.
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>>55422011
any philosophy major worth his weight takes tons of set theory classes.

in america, analytical philosophy is king. i'm not talking about plato and the cave
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>>55422112
Logic only became relevent thanks to mathematicians.

Also you give many attributes to philosophy as a subject because of reasons that are just consecuental of the life if a philosopher.

Also, Aristotle natural philosophy kept mankind at a stop for more that a thousand years, even though people like Aristotle and Hero already showd results that were inconsistent with his worldview. LOOK I can also make shit arguments that sound nice.
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>>55421757

OK. A lot of modal metaphysics is taking place within philosophy. Drawing a hard boundary would probably be retarded. Not sure why you feel the need to hate on a discipline that is obviously related to stuff you care about. Russell made this point long ago: whenever a subject is sufficiently developed, it breaks off form philosophy. That doesn't seem like a knock against philosophy.
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>>55410772
Too many chiefs killed the tribe or something
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>>55422252
And I defend that. But two things:
You have to accept many kids whi enter philosophy despise math and hate their logic classes.

Also, the real modern investigation of logic and foundations is done at the mathematics department. Fussy logix and category theory were developed by mathematicians.
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>>55422605

That's just you complaining about how something is categorized. Do you really want to draw the line based on how universities decide appointments? If a feminist theorist was appointed to the physics department would you call it physics? No.
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>>55422605
which is why it's more important to have a subject that is incredibly broad, but can be narrowed down to more specialized fields.

I'd rather have a new student learn about set theory and logic tracing Bertrand Russell's path than some 18 year old who took a class because he was good at calculus in high school.
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>>55414218
The Hispanic zing will fuck his ratings though.
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>>55422528
To meet you in a common ground, my real beef is with "continental philosophy" (I know is mostly a /lit/ meme to make this clear cut distinction, but you get what I mean).

I'm a physicist and I have a deep understanding of the power and beauty of the subject. So if some frenchie bastard comes telling me that the field that Ive have dedicated so much is just a western sexist dogma, it will get me pissed off. Read about the sokol affair.

Im just against this retarded trend that says that intelectualism is antiSTEM. This doesn't mean I just have my problems with frenchie bullshit, but the things I've heard make me highly skeptic of the subject.
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>>55410359

We need to kill everyone with a degree in humanities.
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What we need is mass global investment into artificial intelligence, machine automation, asteroid mining and space colonization. This stuff is nowhere near as distant as you're made to believe it is - it took a politically motivated America eight years between deciding to go to the moon and going to the fucking moon.

Companies employ machines, government taxes machine employment, taxes pay for the unemployed, humanity by and large gets a free ride into the singularity. That's the true way to happiness. Humans won't live good lives working their souls away.
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>>55410359
His line about making more money being a "got you" statement to philosophy,

This is the type of stuff that damns souls...
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>>55422976
You are missing the point. If you want to reach out the definition of philosophy there must be some agreement. If not what merit does the subject has? Anatomy had impact on artistic development, classical aesthetics has always been in correspondence with math, but we have a clear distinction between the subjects. If there is no clear distinction then philosophy as a subject will lose its merit as a subject if everything becomes philosophy.

Basically what syndrome said "if no everyone is super, no one will be" :^)
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>>55423429
Look dude. We are on the same page here. Continental philosophy is mostly shit. I bring up the Sokal affair on a regular basis because I deal with too many cultural relativists who are full of shit.

Many people in metaphysics see themselves as doing the foundational work for physics (this is certainly how people like David Lewis and Ted Sider see themselves).

Trust me. I fucking hate the women's studies types who are attempting to infiltrate the field. That simply isn't out discipline. We are about truth and not feelings.
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>>55423532

>The BR fell for the STEM meme
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>>55423678
until the machine realizes taxes are not moral
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>>55414608
Depends. Outside of healthcare research, engineering, data science, and a few other things, basic science funding is as embattled as anything else. Just look at physics or evolutionary biology.

Even in the private sector, traditional R&D pipelines such as the those of Bell Labs loosing traction compared to models being pioneered by Google and Facebook which emphasize a maximization of applied research projects versus long-shot basic research.
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>>55412191
wasted potential.
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>>55424078

I'm a lawfag, but I really don't mind dying if that meant all historians, sociologists, philosophers, journalists, other law parasites, art majors, etc. came with me.
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>>55411611
>No white person has ever graduated with crippling debt. Ever.
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>>55424680
History and anthro is pretty fucking based. Economy has developed beautiful models that are pretty useful even though its power of prediction is awful.
But yea, some subjects are just shit.
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>>55411547
hey buddy we r on the greatest verge in human history here. where's your American exceptionalism?
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>>55414639
Sentience
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