>Fewer young men in the US want to get married than ever, while the desire for marriage is rising among young women, according to the Pew Research Center.
>Pew recently found that the number of women 18-34 saying that having a successful marriage is one of the most important things rose from 28 percent to 37 percent since 1997. The number of young adult men saying the same thing dropped from 35 percent to 29 percent in the same time.
>For the first time in US history, the number of women in the workforce has surpassed the number of men, while more women than men are acquiring university degrees.
>“The problem? This new phenomenon has changed the dance between men and women,” Venker wrote. With feminism pushing them out of their traditional role of breadwinner, protector and provider – and divorce laws increasingly creating a dangerously precarious financial prospect for the men cut loose from marriage – men are simply no longer finding any benefit in it.
>A cross section of research data from the Pew Research Center for the last months of 2012 shows the alarming trends for marriage and child-bearing in the US. One report published in mid-December said that the latest census data showed “barely half” of all adults in the United States are currently married, a “record low”. Since 1960, the number of married adults has decreased from 72 percent to 51 today and the number of new marriages in the U.S. declined by five percent between 2009 and 2010.
>Moreover, the link between marriage and childrearing has become disconnected in the minds of the so-called Millennial generation, those between 18 and 29. While 52 percent of Millennials say being a good parent is “one of the most important things” in life, just 30 per cent say the same about having a successful marriage, an attitudinal survey found.
http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/young-men-giving-up-on-marriage-women-arent-women-anymore
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>>55396028
Why don't you convert to Islam, then?
yes....
yeessss.....
YEEESSSSSSS.......
Honestly what's the point of having a wife if she can refuse you sex just like anyone else can?
>>55396028
When marriage becomes a huge risk for men financially and emotionally, of course you're going to get guys who refuse to put up with that level of bullshit.
People are wising up that marriage is such a crapshoot and has the potential to ruin your life financially -- if you're a man, anyway -- that it makes sense to not even pursue it.
Thanks, feminism.
>>55396266
>"man up" and get married to a used up whore, lose your house, your children, and your money and watch her fuck other men (who in turn molest your children)
>abandon marriage, race and nation slip further into the void
fucking hell, you really do lose with jews
Why would anyone want to get married in this day and age?
If it goes to shit you lose half of what you earned and the whole system is skewed towards women in the first place.
>>55397104
>juice
Truly our greatest ally, anon
There is very little positive benefit of marriage for men today.
A majority of marriages end in divorce which is most often initiated by women who also get custody of any children far more often than men.
Men are also far more likely to be required to pay alimony, or if children are involved child support.
The only positive I can see is an absence of the threat of loneliness.
The reward is not worth the risk.
>>55396028
>Sounds hot.
They should make up new fetish porn where the girl begs the guy for marriage but he's busy fapping to traps and animes and lolis while checking his bank account balance that gets filled up with his $120k a year programming job.
This is very problematic. These men are trying to hoard the money they've obtained with their white male privilege. There needs to be a tax on unmarried men over the age of 20 to fund a supplementary income program for the women they're harming with their misogyny.
>>55396028
>With feminism pushing them out of their traditional role of breadwinner, protector and provider
why does the feminist hive-mind always try to make it about usurping some kind of leadership position in the family
the decline in interest in marriage is entirely due to the huge fucking risk of marriage for lads. nobody gives a fuck if women make more money so long as they deserve the wage.
>>55398188
:^)
fuck they would definitely say this; ignoring the fact women could always make as much as men, they just don't choose certain jobs.
>Jan 10, 2013
>>55396028
millennial here. I never intend to get married. The only downside to this I can see is never having a kid, and I love kids. I plan on hiring a surrogate mother once I have the financial means to not only hire her, but also take care of the kid. I'm going to make sure they put a little girl in the oven and pay whatever it takes to not find a piece of shit surrogate who's going to drink and smoke throughout the pregnancy. I will be able to die peacefully knowing that I put at least one good woman on this earth. This plan is basically the only reason I haven't just checked out.
>>55396722
This too. That was a big selling point that's now out the window.
>>55396028
JEWS
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>>55398188
I actually hope they push a tax on single men through, the uprising would finally kick off.
>>55398749
>2015
>not doing the Wilt Chamberlain routine
pump and dump
preferably in other countries desu
>>55398188
There already is. Look at the disparity between the tax rate for single vs. married. You pay a higher rate for the same income level as a married person.
>>55399213
that's all fine and good, and I plan on doing a lot of that as well, but I still want to contribute something positive to this shit covered marble.
I want to get married and have kids, tbqh.
I haven't done it yet mainly because I'm a sperg, not because of what women are like. Maybe they're more insufferable in the first world than over here?.
As someone who's actually grown up and not married, there's one drawback very few of you think of. I can't get shit because I only have one income. Houses are fucking expensive. Cars are fucking expensive. If I had some bitch around who was making at least as much as me, I'd be alright. It's so bad that I'm thinking about gay marrying one of my friends.
>>55396028
Honestly, let me spill out some wisdom.
This is the greatest thing that could happen.
Allow me to explain:
Women fought tooth and nail to enter the workforce because being a housewife was considered too restrictive and against "liberation". Whether or not there was true restrictions isn't the point to keep following me.
We all agree that being a housewife is a world easier than the drudgery of 9-5 working life. Now women are taking on this role making it so men can stay at home and worry about how "grueling" it is to be a stay at home husband (laundry is easier as fuck to take care of).
With men deciding against women more and more, the value of men will increase in the same way it once did. Now women will have to woe you in the same way men had to in the 50's. Only difference is now THEY have to work and you don't.
We are getting all the benefits of womanhood and manhood all in one fall swoop. It's ingenius.
It's a wonderful time to be alive.
>>55399540
All that free time...
>>55399662
Exactly, free time is a precious resource. People pray to win the lottery so that they can have free time again.
I understand that many find their sense of purpose through their career. However, what if you do not find purpose in this way? Work becomes drudger; something you do so that you can get on with your real life.
>>55396266
You can have children without getting into a relationship m8
I've always wanted to have a nice little family with 2-3 kids. Not happening anymore, and women being vicious whores is just one of the many problems that are making that difficult.
The Jews won, guys.
>>55399662
>freeing up men so we can start hopping planets
Thank you women, truly amazing creatures.
>>55399540
>Now women are taking on this role making it so men can stay at home and worry about how "grueling" it is to be a stay at home husband (laundry is easier as fuck to take care of).
This literally isn't true. Women aren't taking care of men, women are taking care of themselves with more shoes and stupid shit.
They're taking care of CEOs, not the men they never fuck.
>>55399925
you are overvaluing Jewish intelligence. Men won and beat women at their own game.
>>55400000
Checked.
>>55396722
Because she's a person you fucking autist
>>55397787
Tea Party for her spider friends.
>>55400000
OH BB
>>55400062
>Men won and beat women at their own game.
How? Until prostitution is legal they've just exponentiation western women's narcissism. Now she has the pussy AND all of the jobs.
>>55400047
how many women get to fuck CEOs?
I am talking about the average Jane and Megans of the world.
>>55400155
Exponentiated. Spell check.
>>55400155
women still want to get married as pointed out in the pew surveys.
prostitution will be legal soon and so will sex bots. in about 20 years expect to see love bots and the impending female shitstorm
>>55400162
Don't shill you kike faggot.
They're pissing money away on shoes and not on the men they probably avoid, lining the pockets of the CEOs and thus taking care of them.
>>55399540
I'm a 32 year old woman and I like that I do not have to tie a knot around my neck.
>>55399540
I'm a stay-ay-home dad. My wife makes $200k. It's pretty cool so far
>>55400000
cheggit
>>55396266
LMAO FAMILY TO BE HONEST
>>55400277
>so will sex bots.
That's what Hitler gave to the soldiers that couldn't get laid. Thanks for proving the kikes are literally Nazis.
>>55399534
>It's so bad that I'm thinking about gay marrying one of my friends.
Well, you know, if you are not worried about the stigma you don't have much to lose. It's not like they'll check if you are actually gay for each other. Might as well exploit the system while you can.
>>55400297
Sure, of course there are women not interested in marriage. but according to this survey, you are the minority.
>>55400305
Cool man, sounds like the life. I bet all you do is laundry and grocery shopping and other low energy shit.
congratulations
>>55399455
I want to get married and have kids too, but the risk here is too great, and most young women aren't ready for it. They want to party and have fun, fucking strangers and taking drugs. Then at 27-30, when their old and tired, they decide that they want to get married. Then they get bored, divorce you and take your house, kids, half your paycheck and all your shit.
Unless i get lucky and find a female that actually wants to be a woman and not a man, i've resigned myself to loneliness.
>>55398749
How about pumping out a new white saviour instead of a birthgiver?
I just want a woman who's a woman is that too much to ask for?
>>55399922
You can have dysfunctional criminal children without getting into a relationship m8
>>55400316
>>55400402
Nice job burring my posts and ignoring the points.
Does Netenyahu still shoot a load or has he dried up?
E V E R Y O N E G A Y
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>>55396028
>That feel when totally neglecting my societal duties, becoming a neckbeard, and get some really easy job that provides no strain and allows me to pay all the bills for one person.
>>55400297
>tits or gtfo
>>55399925
If your actually still interested in this, hit it and quit it, if you can, until your almost in your 30's, then settle down; again, if your interested in getting married.
If you do plan on getting married, make sure you aren't getting sloppy seconds. If she wasn't good enough for the other guys, why is she good enough for you?
>>55400529
stay mad
>>55400713
>Live in the west
>Finding an attractive woman that has been with a single digit number of guys.
Good luck.
Old article
>>55399540
nope, due to the fact that one man can impregnate every woman in the world until an artificial womb is perfected women have more value
this has always been the case and probably will be forever
>>55396028
They get what they deserve for being stupid cunts since the 1960s. We all will be replaced, unfortunately this time by Islam, but that's the way the game is played, "Now I devour you, now you devour me!"
>>55400402
>Cool man, sounds like the life. I bet all you do is laundry and grocery shopping and other low energy shit.
I'm actually watching twin boys all day. They're 6 months old and it's an all-day job.
Raising twins is an exceptional circumstance, and it's actually a challenge with the lack of sleep. But if you're raising 1 baby at a time and crying about it you're a fucking pussy. One baby is a joke.
I had a degree and a $60k job by age 25. I went with an older, more successful woman. Now my kids will grow up closer to upper class instead of middle class, and I get to spend a lot of time with them.
It really is like I'm a trophy wife. Usually they get a degree, socialize with the upper class, and get scooped up. The difference though both my wife and I started from working-class Catholic backgrounds.
The backlash has begun.
I'm on the cusp of 50 and let me tell you, this comeuppance to women has been a long, LONG time coming.
Being childless and married to a rich, ugly woman I can only say....
WHAT A GREAT FUCKING TIME TO BE ALIVE
Serve it up to those cunts, boys!
>>55400790
I did once, but she was raised by a single mother.
Should come as no shock that she wasn't marriage material.
>>55400822
seeing as how future medical advancements can make male tissues into both eggs and sperm, women would no longer be needed
>>55397787
>The only positive I can see is an absence of the threat of loneliness.
And that's easily solved by getting a dog.
>>55400114
who contributes nothing to you if you don't want a child you fucking autist
>>55400888
Yea, seeing parents with one kid bitching is pretty pathetic.
I can see it would be a full time job but at the end of the day you are the boss and the day flows more naturally. it's tough but it must be rewarding for you.
>>55400891
get off the internet dad
>>55400931
they call them "comfort dogs"
>>55398069
10/10 would cum buckets to
>>55399534
Live in an apartment or a small house. You are better off alone. Take it from a person who DID get marred.
>>55400790
A Catholic or Orthodox Church is your best bet. You won't find one on tinder or at a nightclub, that's for sure.
>>55400891
high 5 old tymer!
>be me
>be millennial
>don't want a wife for fear of divorce and needing to pay alimony
>the only reason I want a kid is to pass on whatever knowledge and inheritance I have so it doesn't all go completely to waste
>>55398069
i'd be surprised that didn't already exist.
Kramer had it right all along.
https://youtu.be/suAhGfVr_4U
That article is almost 3 years old.
>>55398188
this is you
>>55400277
They already made sexbots illegal in Britain.
Anything to spoil men's fun.
>>55400114
It's possible to be both a person, and someone's property.
>>55396266
Is that man Jewish?
>>55401399
British.
>Men giving up on marriage.
Thank God they're finally coming to their senses.
Marriage is a scam and a stacked deck against any man. It's nothing but slavery for the rest of your life, and this slavery continues even after your divorce.
Women are dream killers that will ruin your life. They always see you as the enemy, even if they look in your eyes and tell you they love you. They are nothing but a burden and a distraction that will ruin your life.
>>55401029
Yeah it's awesome. When it comes to white, successful people having babies I treat it as a duty. We're planning on a third in the next two years.
The one problem is her age. We had twins at 35 and that adds a lot of risk. Her eggs and body are as healthy as a 30 year old's, though. So we should be good for a third.
The system is completely dysfunctional. We need intelligent, caring parents to breed. Right now the entire system is set up to stop you from doing it, while rewarding the lower class, negligent teenage mothers for their mistakes.
Do what it takes, people. Idiocracy was a warning not a comedy
>>55401296
uprising when
>>55396028
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>>55400526
That only happens with single mothers
>>55397104
It's fucked, isn't it? That's true power, to maneuver a situation such that no matter which way things go it will benefit the party in power.
This is why we need a third position more than anything.
>>55401435
Why is Ben Carson cücking me?
>>55401448
idiocracy is a news report from the future brought to the present as a warning.
They really should start increasing the benefits for married couples to reproduce.
Also, build wall.
Good
>bb..but muh kids
You don't need to be married to have kids just commitment
>>55400399
I now pronounce you kek and larry
>>55401612
That's just another form of slavery.
>>55401262
>That image
>le conspiring hands in the window
>>55401448
Use IVF. The health of her body doesn't change the fact that those eggs are 35 years old.
>>55401707
lol, that's the gaming industry for you
BECAUSE THEY FIGHT
>Quit my job last month because I'm going to Uni next year and the new boss was a prick
>Got offered another one right off the bat
>Accepted because why not?
>Getting twice as many hours
>Starting to wish I had a woman around just so I wouldn't have to do all the cooking and cleaning myself
Well, a somewhat older guy who's already financially established has a fairly good shot at Uni right? I'm 24 and entering STEM as a mature age student.
>>55401449
Never, kek
>>55401780
I'm in STEM as a mature age student, although I did my VCE as an adult too so went into the Uni the old fashioned way.
>tfw have to live at home because too poor to move out
>>55396028
>Jan 10, 2013
Its my hope to find a guy that's not too jaded on the idea of marriage
>>55401960
I knew I wanted to go to Uni since I was like 16, but I didn't know what I wanted to study, so I got a job right out of high school and I've been saving ever since. I can pay my entire tuition for a 5 year course up front with a 15k buffer to spare, plus I'm eligible for the mature age and regional studen scholarships, so that's like an extra $12k/year. I'll have to work, but I'll be studying in Perth, and it's pretty cheap there now. I can get a furnished, 1 bedroom flat near the campus for $200/week, so it's not too much of a struggle thankfully.
>>55402115
as long as you aren't an entitled princess, and you can at least act like a woman you should be fine
>>55401974
Figures.
>>55402115
Makes it easier to fuck him in the courts, right?
I knew I was never getting married since I was a small kid.
It's the die old and alone path for me.
>>55402115
Just agree to a prenup, you scam artist.
>>55402115
as long as you don't have unrealistic expectations
having a compulsory list larger than 3 items means you are too picky. having a vagina doesn't mean your value is skyhigh
>>55402370
>i-i was forced to sign it under duress!!
>then we'll just go ahead and toss this prenup out
>more and more women getting mad that betas won't MAN UP and raise Tyrone Junior
Women can thank their toxic feminist demagogues for turning women into a gender whose only use is the wet hole between their legs.
>>55396028
The rise in lawlessness has caused the love of men for women to grow cold.
Oy vey, feminism and divorce laws are making men not want to marry
Quick, we need more immigrants!
Bill Burr has an awesome line that relates so well with this.
He asks the the men in the crowd with long term girlfriends and wives to think back to the last time, the most recent time, their partner was in a GOOD, POSITIVE mood, for like or three or four days in a row.
It's mind numbing to think about as a male. I can't think of a single time my partner has been in a happy mood for three consecutive days. It's literally impossible.
Meanwhile, my dog on the other hand - literally happy and affectionate every day. And won't steal my money and force me to raise children I never sired.
It's...a tough choice.
>>55402370
Prenups are completely useless, judges toss those out the window on a daily basis.
>>55402480
is that from nostradamus? cool
>>55400000
NASA was defunded.
>>55397787
hey man i see your point but i still gotta try. i'm married and i like it and plan on having kiddos. things could end in disaster but i'll be dead at some point and it won't matter, but maybe my kid will be a scientist or a rapper or somethin and make a difference
>>55402589
Bill Burr is a modern day prophet.
he's 100% right about women. he's untouchable.
i also enjoyed that one show where he was heckled and he ripped their asses wide open for like 15 minutes.
>>55402670
>rapper
>make a difference
wut
>>55402589
>It's mind numbing to think about as a male. I can't think of a single time my partner has been in a happy mood for three consecutive days. It's literally impossible.
Wow...
I've only had one gf ever, but... I thought it was just her, because of her self esteem issues and such.
>>55401780
>so I wouldn't have to do all the cooking and cleaning myself
Stop being a lazy fuck mate
>>55402643
government funded space exploration is old news
its all about private investments
>>55402670
good on ya man
here's hoping your kid is a rapper scientist
>>55396722
>>55398869
>>55400114
Women are people too, they aren't your personal sex toys...
But it works both ways too, women shouldn't use men as emotional pillows and little relationship ego boosters.
This is the dichotomy of Male / Female relations, women like the "Relationship", the emotional bonding. Men like the "Physical", the intimate bonding.
This is pervasive in even homosexual relations; one person is more physical, the other is more emotional.
>>55401712
Well actually anon it does play a very large role.
But yeah she's getting old and if she is loaded IVF would be more likely to produce results.
Men and women are both abandoning marriage. Men are just doing so at a somewhat faster rate.
Women are still drawn to marriage because a lot of women still prefer to marry a man to be the primary caregiver for her children. That attitude hasn't quite died out though it is in decline.
Men are more just abandoning the desire for fatherhood altogether. Or they show a preference for long term cohabitation (even if children are involved) that avoids messy divorces.
As to the whole "young men giving up on marriage: women aren't women anymore", I'm not sure that attitude is really prevalent enough to be making a dent in the statistics. It's definitely a movement that has gained speed on the internet though and it may grow in the future to become a significant issue.
>>55396028
>Young men giving up on marriage: ‘Women aren’t women anymore’
Meanwhile even feminazi landwhales get more dates than they can handle.
>>55402753
Cunt I get up at 3:30AM to go to work, I have every right to be tired when I get home.
>>55401435
Jokes on you, my life is already ruined! I'll probably die in the war to put the ruling oligarchy on the guillotine.
>>55402973
>Friedman
oh boy....
>>55402725
It's just the natural human state my American friend.
We are designed to suffer because it forces us to push into new and bold regions in the search for some shred of last happiness.
Unfortunately women are placated from birth to death so for them the void is exceptionally deep. Usually men step in to should their burdens, when that doesn't happen, the emotional strain is disastrous, kind of like a dog driving a car.
>>55402407
>>55402253
I don't think I got any unreasonable expectations, someone who makes me feel special, that we enjoy each other's company and that he's as loyal to me as I am to him
>>55402885
Yeah, no, the new dichotomy is the guy crucified yrying to live up to three different outdated ideals while the woman steals all his property and destroys his reputation with false accusations. I love this censorship by false balance, in both your comment and the article. Men were attacked and are fighting back. It wasn't a less than attractive deal, it was a beyond raw deal.
>>55402973
FUUUUCCCKKKKKKKKK
>won't date men who like Fight Club, one of the most popular modern films
>the men interested in her MUST not only be interested in feminism, but responded to her with the perfect amount of subservience and 'interest' in what she has to say
>but she will not tolerate them like a 2 hour piece of film
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
>>55401544
>This is why we need a third position more than anything.
SCIENCE
BABIES
>>55396028
28 year-old male on my second divorce.
AMA. Willing to help younger men learn from my failures and experiences w/ modern women.
>>55396028
Women want a wedding, not a marriage.
>>55403124
good on ya
I hope to find the same thing in a girlfriend or wife later
>>55403124
>having literally any expectations in the game of life
This is why you're losing btw
>>55396028
All thanks to alimony, child support and all that shit
>>55403124
>I want Chad to make me feel special, enjoy my company, and be completely loyal to me
Goodluck!
So, /pol/, what's the option for a guy that wants kids but doesn't want marriage?
I know I can donate sperm, but that's not an option because I actually want to raise the little devils.
>raise risks for men
>lower rewards
>more men call quits
You mean people frown upon paying an arm and a leg for an inferior product? How come?
Must be the patriarchy again.
>>55400114
>>55402885
>Women are people too
>they aren't your personal sex toys
Get a load of these contrarian edgelords. Up until recently, marriage meant that you belong to one another. You can't rape your wife, just like you can't rape your hand.
>>55400915
>thinking only eggs and sperm are needed to bear children
lol enjoy paying $10K/month for an artificial womb chamber run out of California for 9 months
>>55400891
I'll do it for you gramps.
>>55400465
Having a girl means his genepool may survive.
Having a boy means his lineage will likely end when the white genocide goes fullswing.
>>55403478
you can adopt kids, and get called pedophile for the rest of your life
>>55403549
Adoption is not an option, I want to develop my own seed
>>55403297
what were your mistakes?
so we can avoid them
>>55403299
fucking this holy shit
>>55403498
90k is a bargain versus a 1 year marriage ending in divorce.
Not to take the thread in this direction but it's absolutely true what they say about the 'wall.'
I'm in my late 20's and I've got a lot of good things going for me and women suddenly want me like never before. I'm super careful though.
>>55398749
This is the most autistic thing I've read all week.
Go outside mate
>>55396028
Is there a lawyer here?
What if I married a woman that makes more than me with more assets?
Assuming the divorce is a amicable one, with either at fault, do I receive 50% share of all the assets and enough alimony to maintain the standard of living?
>>55403773
>I'm in my late 20's and I've got a lot of good things going for me
I bet you didn't have many of those good things when you were in your late teens early 20s
>>55401262
>trade in 200 games and get a whopping $15 store credit
10/10
>>55403925
I was pretty average then. I did okay with women. But with education and career comes a lot of attention that I never got before.
Things have changed. I used to chase girls. Now, women chase me.
>>55403297
>28 year-old male on my second divorce.
>>55403297
>my second divorce
How?
>>55396028
Late 20s here. I always wanted to get married, eventually have a kid or two. I dropped out of college to start a business, have a house in the suburbs and a condo in the city. Most women I meet still dont want to settle down.
The very few that want to settle down are the ones who have been burned by a ton of guys and just seem a little unstable or burned out. They seem to just want marriage quick and arent interested in who the guy is.
The last one I met like this had just gotten out of a 3 year relationship, she was upset the guy wouldnt make a commitment to marry and said she would never give a guy 3 years of her life again. I asked her when in the relationship did the guy start flaking on anything long term and she told me when they started dating he said he didnt want anything serious. 3 years in she gives him an ultimatum to marry or gtfo. He says he wants nothing serious. She spends a month doing everything she can to make sure he is happy. She asks again and he says he doesnt want anything serious and she leaves him. She seemed very bitter about that, I just felt confused.
>>55398749
do you need help killing yourself?
>>55403299
>>55403299
You just hit the nail on the head.
>>55404092
I get that same feeling from women anon. The truth is that women burn out faster than guys do. It's nature. The years between 25 and 30 can wreck havoc on a woman's looks. The smartest women are those who get married at 22 after graduation and have a kid by 25 thereby locking in their lifetime commitment.
>>55403124
at long as "make you feel special" doesn't mean a 6'5" hunk with a Porche who's name is also Chad Thundercock then it's not unreasonable.
Problem with women is that they may be a 6-7/10 in looks and expect a 8/10 guy. They aren't very realistic.
i'm looking for the same btw, good luck
>>55403773
The Wall is real.
>>55403299
This.
>make me feel special and important!
>Gibs all attentiom
>It's muh day mmhmmm
>After wedding take all your money and leaves
>>55403909
Any family law lawyer here?
>>55403498
pretty cheap considering
>>55403297
>>55404092
>Late 20s here. I always wanted to get married, eventually have a kid or two.
>US of A
oh man
look in Bialorus, Ukraine or poorer parts of Russia and pick those more conservative/religious
that's what I've done - and it works
down side: you can't act like a total jerk
>>55404284
Dear lord, I had such a crush on her when I was a teenager
>>55399540
not exactly. this is where the idea of man-child and kek culture comes from. women will get with a tyrone a couple of times a week just to "release", go back to their job, all the while ignoring the man-child.
>>55404284
holy fuck
>>55404284
>I don't wanna wait, For our lives to be over...
>>55404377
"man-child"
shitty feminist shame tactics
>>55403665
1. Getting married
2. Being in a relationship less than 2 years
3. Not moving in together
4. Not going after the hard questions, like anything that will cause feels to be felt by the woman (so basically anything). Always ask about debt. Look at their spending history. Shit like that.
>>55404062
First marriage should have never happened. We were young and dumb, brand new to the world with more money than we should of have.
Second marriage: Everything was great until I found out, about 3 years into our marriage, that she had been stealing money from me, talking shit about me to my ex-wife, and riding my successes. I'm done w/ her.
>>55404284
>>55397787
look at that little whore. I could already hear her post wall ass say "where have all the good men gone?" with her disobedient niglets trashing the supermarket.
>>55404284
she looks like she's in her 70's
>>55404246
I haven't even seen a dick except on the internet (mostly this place) I keep telling myself to go past appearances and really I don't even know what I'm looking for physically.
>>55399922
>>55401458
the majority of those "families" you mention are single mothers
you still live in the hypothetical world in your mind
>>55402589
He got married to a big feminist bitch though. Some guys can't follow their own advice.
>>55404284
>that mouth/those lips
She looks like a little old lady
Old guy here.
If you little shits actually think that you're men, LOL.
Almost all of you are fruits.
>>55404463
only way to know what you find attractive is interaction. it's perfectly normal to want to feel attraction to someone. just keep it down to Earth level. sometimes you'd be surprised what turns you on. listen to your body. it doesn't lie.
>>55404549
Rather be a fruit than a fucking LEAF lol.
>>55404526
yea but he keeps her in her place
>>55404423
women dont wanna "bend down" to a man-child. they want the socially acceptable wealthy professional male. The situation you're explaining literally creates a polygamy culture where you'll be excluded
Well im white, so if you can tell me what women want white men, maybe. But i keep seeing white women fucking other guys or saying other races are hotter, the hell will i got for someone who thinks im shit tier?
>>55404287
Jews aren't welcome in this board.
>>55404549
old guy boomer that got robbed in alimony spotted
>>55404638
kay
>>55404598
lol
You don't even need to get married to get fucked over by women these days
My father recently split with his partner of 15+ years with whom he had two kids because she became a heroin-addicted maniac. The courts decided even though they never married they had been together long enough to be treat their separation the same way and now she's getting half of everything he owns.
They were both working full time for the entire duration of their relationship btw.
The problem is that marriage has lost it's value
Nowadays many girls tend to be sluts and whore around, i know so many girls like this and it's alwayst them that want marriage and not the guy
I wouldn't mind being married, but the way things are now it's not as easy as it was before and also it's really pointless desu
>>55404773
>living in a state with common-law marriage
Asked for it.
>>55396028
>"Honey, I want to start sleeping with other men."
>>55404773
It's called Common Law marriage in America, or De-facto spouse/partner in Australia.
Lesson being, if you're living with a woman for more than a few months in a domicile you own, always charge her rent. It doesn't matter if it's only a nominal amount, just charge her rent. That way she's a tenant, not a spouse.
>>55404870
Civil law > abyss > Common law
>>55398749
>go to to foster home bring a pen and a pad along with a timer
>gather all the niglets and have them run across the little field. say "fastest one gets 20 bux"
>mark the fastest one's times down
>go to every foster home you can and keep track of their speeds
>adopt the fastest niglets
>raise them to be nfl or apehoop players
>>55404284
She looks exceptionally bad--both of the actresses below her are older and hotter. Honestly I never found Holmes very attractive in the context of hollywood, last thing I remember seeing her in was a batman film.
>>55404284
fuck oh goy god i mean oh fuck what the fuck
>being a woman
>2015
>>55399540
you forget that, given enough boning, a single man can bang like 365 different women a year. and impregnate many of them.
men only have financial value, and with women working a very large portion of men have no purpose in life, I see it every day with lonely guys. it's why our suicide rate is so massive.
it's gotten to the point that when I look at a woman I just feel sick deep in the pit of my stomach because I know that no matter how undesirable she is, I don't meet her standards. she has as much money as she needs from worrk, and can fuck her choice from a list of men at any given time. our only value is to entertain them, like social slaves.
>>55404911
Pretty sure in America common law marriage is tied to filing joint tax returns with a woman not necessarily just from living with her.
Otherwise whos to say the man and the woman weren't just room mates?
>>55404870
She also lied to the cops and said he assaulted her when in reality she was the one assaulting him. She got a restraining order placed on him which means he couldn't even go near their kids when they were with her, meaning he had to move out of the house he built and live with his parents. He fought it in court and eventually got it removed but she's probably going to get custody lmao
>>55398188
Even with the taxes is cheaper and better to remain single.
>>55404307
Thanks man, one of my brothers actually married a religious girl from Ukraine. They have 3 kids and they seem like they're doing well. Hes got a nice engineering job and she stays busy with the kids. Through her church shes made a lot of friends and they're always busy with kids activities. She was college educated, raised very religious.
Its something I think about, maybe in a few more years I'll get serious with it.
>>55403275
It's actually incomprehensible how easy women have it.
>>55403275
She relaxed the Fight Club rule cos everyone likes it.
>>55404284
Holy fuck I'm glad I was born with a penis
>>55405324
>>55404284
JUST
>>55403292
Americans still thinking technology of such magnitude developed under Anglo-zionist control will lead to a solution to the jewish induced problem.
Why are you people so stupid? If such technology were developed, -BEFORE THE ANGLO-ZIONIST POWER STRUCTURE WAS TORN DOWN-, do you honestly think they would allow white men and women to order the creation of millions of white children? Of course not, access to such technology would be SEVERELY limited. It would start out as a thing only the upper class establishment elites would be able to afford, it would be government controlled. After a while after enough public outcry and development in the technology, more and more people would be able to access it, but at a heavy cost, just like breeding children traditionally would've. After a while further, the establishment will have been and had enough time to brainwash another generation of mindless zombie hordes, who would hold signs with the text: ''NO MORE WHITE CHILDREN, END RACISM NOW'', aaaaaand before you know it, diversity quotas would be introduced, or white access to said technology would be cut off.
And that's only if the technology would even be allowed for the public to know about.
>>55402539
Don't you fucks realize this affects Jews just as much?
Even more so. Every jewess I know is divorced or with a black guy now.
Not much of a master plan.
>>55402973
>>55404979
>because I know that no matter how undesirable she is, I don't meet her standards.
Why is it that the 5/10 women are the pickiest?
>>55405747
But Jews always win, because if you have even as little as 1% of Jewish blood in you, you're a Jew, but with whites it's the opposite, you must have 100% white blood.
>>55405747
>Every jewess I know
in america
the "true" jews are in israel, that's how they see it
>problem is that women, in their quest for equality have instead reduced their value
>somehow the problem is with men not wanting to commit
>feminism will eventually be about reinstating their traditional roles
Hmm
>>55405319
no problem, I wish you the best
>Its something I think about, maybe in a few more years I'll get serious with it.
just don't wait with it too long, you have no idea how fast the time will flow - besides mid-late 20's is the best time to marry
>>55396028
Millennial wizard here, I just don't care anymore. I have everything I want. Honestly, I expect to die at my desk since all the gibsmedats will be bled bone dry by the time I'm old enough to retire.
>>55405860
i don't get why everyone is always spouting shit about sanctity of marriage then treating it like a business deal. "oh this business deal doesn't work for me anymore". i can't believe i'm actually saying this, but...aren't people supposed to want to get married out of love? worked out for me
>>55404549
Old guy not realizing what young women are like today. Boomers really are shit.
>>55405977
Yes but it's inevitable now that so much financial risk is involved
>>55404549
DUDE
WEED
LMAO
>>55405977
Love is dead. Hook-up culture killed it.
>>55398069
would you guys pay for this kind of porn? i'm sure we could send a screenplay to brazzers. theyve got a decent office in vegas we could find out
>>55396028
>Want to have a traditional family
>Probably won't be able to have a nice one
>Will probably end up getting keked and divorced
Guys I'm gonna leave the US.
I'm headed for Argentina.
>>55405977
Actually, arranged marriages have a higher success rate.
>>55405977
Complacency and role confuse wreak havoc on relationships. Men cannot be men, as most women literally believe it to be sexist and something they shouldn't put up with.
You can love someone and not get along on these very basic levels.
>>55402670
>rapper
>>55405977
I agree with you my man
I am a hopeless romantic when I put my heart into it.. I've been single for over a year since my last break up (started off as high school sweethearts before she went full tumblr studies) with no romantic pursuits in that time. People think I'm hung up on my ex but it's just that I have yet to find a woman worthy of my affection.
It sounds really entitled I guess? Im just not the kind of guy to pump and dump. Maybe I'm too old fashioned.
>>55406216
You're insane
>get married
>have child
>wife leaves to go fuck somebody else
>she gets to keep the kid
>i get stuck with payments for the next 18 years while she has new fuck toy supporting her
>pre-nup means nothing and she still gets everything of value I have
>mother asks when ill get married
>tell her never
>>55405837
Isn't Israeli girls pretty much just as slutty as American Jewesses if not more?
>>55406319
i have to say, i haven't seen much of that "men can't be men" stuff here. even university educated women here still prefer men a bit rougher and masculine. it's biologically ingrained for fucks sake
>>55406470
hang in there
>>55402670
>literally what your parents said
top fucking kek
>>55404944
enjoyed this post, to be honest, family
This could actually be a succesful strategy to pay for the surrogate farming.
>start nigthlete farming early
>returns start flowing in 15 years later
>dump profits into farming white offspring
>write a how to book, cash out, and sit back on your compound while the world burns
>>55402589
>Bill Burr
Holy Shit, never knew about him. It had been a long time since I laughed an hour straight through some stand up comedy.
>>55406803
It may be more of an American problem. It's much less tolerated here. I've noticed European couple seem to have a much better male/female dynamic.
>>55402686
The philly show is legend.
>>55396028
I blame it on the feminization of men in America, the loss of traditional rolls in the family... And the jews
>>55396028
As has been said the last hundred threads, it is because the quality of women has declined. Quality of men has, too, I'm sure, but it is now almost impossible to find an intelligent woman who values traditional marriage. Why bother?
>>55406803
Nobody ever married out of love until 100 years ago.
>>55407831
okay, but, and this is also a response to the guy who said arranged marriages are staatistically more successful, aren't they "more successful" because in societies with arranged marriages divorce is practically unthinkable and women couldn't really get one if they wanted to? i mean would you really rather have a slave tied to you instead of a willing woman?
>>55400713
>no hymen
>no ring
doesnt even rhyme
>>55407549
The quality of men has fallen as well (manchildren) but it's in response to the declining of the quality of women. Women are becoming so undesirable that men are more attracted to animated caricatures than the real thing.
>>55408223
No hymen, no diamond, nigga.
>>55406803
Thanks senpai
I haven't given up hope yet. I came really close once so I know it's possible.. just gotta find where they come from in my country.
>>55404284
only when youre a typical drunk, late night partying unhealthy white western woman. lots of exotic ladies go to their 40's and still look good.
>>55408364
It's kind of sad that I was surprised to find out how much of a myth this is.
It's really easy to remove your own hymen, you know. Just google it.
I'm not saying you shouldn't date virgin women; you absolutely should. There's just no real way to verify that she didn't break it herself through masturbation or through the usage of tampons, not to mention the fact that they can just naturally tear through exercise and such.
>>55408087
Men didn't get the women they wanted either and died of poisoning.
Meanwhile everyone besides whites are marrying and having kids. Game over loserds.
>>55408932
It's a catchy slogan that basically sums up what men want in a bride, anon. Don't over think it.
