>living with mommy and daddy past the age of 18
What's wrong with Millennials?
Baby boomers controlling 80% of the land, keeping fat pensions for themselves millenials have to pay for while they threw the greatest generation in nursing homes where they were abused, introducing socialism to the West once they became high up in companies so no-one else could use capitalism to follow them and boomer colledge proffesors trying to destroy the white race and white culture with feminism, black privelegdes and feminism.
>stop others!
I'm not blaming "others", I'm blaming baby boomers. Because its a fact they're the biggest cancer humanity has ever known.
>>55387791
>>55388094
This is utterly blue pilled shit.
Divide and conquer based on age is a tactic Mao used.
The fact is there is poor boomers just as there is richly millennials.
The people you list are the people who should be held to account, not someone based on their age.
>>55387791
>wasting money needlessly when you will need to retire at the age of 80
This is all a result of baby boomers anyways.
>>55388094
This. Baby boomers were given the world on a silver platter and fucked it all up trying to get the most progressive good boy points they could for their egos.
I lived at home up til 25, couldn't get a job that paid decent money in Poland, no fucking way. So I moved to the UK, and now I'm jsut peachy financially. If I could, I probably would move back home. Nigger, back there I had my fuckhuge dogs, a forest I could get lost in, my family and friends, and if I could get a job that paid even half of what I get now, I could save some five times the money I can save now, living in a goddamned shoebox in a suburban London shithole. Suck it, OP.
>>55388773
Money doesn't sprout out of the ground. It comes from people such as you going and starting businesses. Once you've learned how here, go home and help your countrymen.
you're not meant to leave your parents house until you're married
why waste money so that you can satisfy your insecurity about living with your parents? by all means, get a job and pay your parents rent, or some token every month as an appreciation, but that's what is the Godly thing to do.
plus, parents don't like being lonely. and when you get your wife and move out, and your parents get old and sick, you should take them into your house and take care of them. it's a two-sided coin.
but yeh, let's all move out into a 1-bedroom apartment, just so we can say "we're independent"
>>55388289
>The fact is there is poor boomers just as there is richly millennials.
this statement does not shift any burden of guilt off boomers
there could still be less poor boomers than rich millennials, and more poor millennials than rich boomers, and it could still be the boomers fault
you need the actual numbers, and I suspect you don't use them because they don't support you
>>55387791
> not swimming in loans
> not alienating yourself from your family
> not having your own place where you can get fuck bitches and do drugs all night
BAD BAD GOYIM
>>55387791
>anglo
They are returning to how things were for 99% of history were. You think that boomer economy would last forever? Nice Whig History world-view there anon.
>>55388913
M8, if I told you just half of the stories of my acquaintances that sold off their businesses in Poland and fucked off to Britain to work as lorry drivers and shit, you'd know why that is a stupid, stupid thing to do. Poland is simply too fucking corrupt. You CAN'T get ahead being honest, and even being dishonest, if you do much more than limp along, the crooks in local administration and their thug buddies will fuck you like a 2 quid whore.
>>55387791
what is this some jew guilt trip?
very few of us have any money to start anything.
Even though that is an option, living with the parents, I choose not to, simply so I don't have to put up with their baby boomer bullshit nonsense.
>mfw I work two part time jobs, live in a tent because I can't afford rent and leech off of coffee shop wifi
>mfw it's winter and I don't give a fuck
>>55387791
Starter homes are £200,000
>>55387791
>Be me
>35 years old
>live with mommy and daddy
>deal with it, live the life.
>>55389259
Well that sucks m8, I wasn;t aware of how bad it was. It's just that us brain draining everywhere is all well and good for us, but leaves where they came from down a doctor or engineer. It breeds global poverty.
>>55389070
>parents don't like being lonely
Sure but that doesn't stop them from kicking you out
I lived with my mother in an empty 4 room house. She has worked he whole life, but doesn't understand how to spend or save money, and was surprised when she was categorized as low income.
My old aging mother, who lives in a house that is falling apart, can't fix it or do any gardening, which I did for her when I could working around my job. I had a job I could walk to with people I worked well with.
She effectively kicked me out, because I wasn't living up to her monetary expectations and It effectively destroyed what stability I had.
>>55389314
That's a truly American attitude and you should be proud of it.
>>55389437
Do you work ?
>>55389089
No one gives the slightest fuck what you suspect.
The fact is you're talking like a commie right now, with your little red book.
Kill yourself
People are living longer now a days, but as a consequence it takes longer for us to develop since we do have more time.
literally no one moves out before the age of 22
i am 18 and go to school.
HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO MOVE OUT
>>55389201
this
what is wrong with americans? don't you go to university? living in a dorm paid by mommy and daddy doesn't count as emancipation btw
and if you started working as soon as you finished high school just to get away from your parents well good for you but that's fucking degenerate and your life is gonna be shit
>>55389696
>commie
how is that not an insult used by uneducated boomers?
We live in a socialist hybrid, calling me commie is a huge irony considering all the socialist programs FOR boomers
>>55389802
You're German. Just find a nice kuck shed somewhere.
>>55389456
Very true, however people like us can do fuck all about this. All a man can do is right by himself, his family, and if he's lucky, his immediate community. And community is pretty dead in Poland, thanks to Communism, of all keks. So its everyone for himself and his kin, and anyone who gets a modicum of power will use it to fuck everyone not related to him.
Right now, the death of the Polish state is the absolute best that could happen to the nation. Denying those fucks tax money is one way to speed it up. 4 million working adults gone, and double digit unemployment. Can't fucking wait for it to implode.
Srsly though, I notice time and time again you guys have no clue how good you have it here. I can't decide if the moaning of my English colleagues is endearing in its naivete, or annoying.
I make decent amount of money with no debt but still live at home.
>>55387791
>Making the same thread every single day
Kill yourself.
>>55389583
Can't take a ton of credit. The tent is in a generous friend's backyard, so it's a bit safer than living in the park like I was.
>>55387791
For some it's just too expensive these days.
>25
>graduated with 2 degrees 3 years ago
>still no job
>living with parents who pat me on the back for my "achievements"
>no job prospect in sight unless someone literally just hired me without interviewing me at this point
Is there hope? Might go into military or something.
>>55389817
>We live in a socialist hybrid, calling me commie is a huge irony considering all the socialist programs FOR boomers
Want to know how I know you're a nigger?
FOR MINORITIES you meant.
Go have a fucking bath you filthy ethnic commie Jew cunt
>>55389610
yes / si
>>55387791
Im 24, I still live at home.
I also work for the family business and go to school full time (training needed to take over the business). I dont feel like a child, but then again Im going to guess most people arent in my situation.
>>55390012
2 degrees? Go OCS, live the pog life.
>>55387791
Because otherwise after university I need to go back anyways due to 40.000 debt.
I hate students as well, someone should just shoot up a college, goddamn the only bigger mass of arrogant retards collected together must be the European parliament.
>>55390012
>graduated with 2 degrees 3 years ago
Degrees in what? I hope it's not some kind of artsy degree or else you might as well accept your fate as a dishwasher.
>>55390015
I didn't exclude the programs for Minorities, but they don't use the word commie like slander against their detractors
Boomers use "Commie" AND use socialist programs
Minorities use "Racists"
>>55389829
You've lived both, most of us haven't, so it's mostly naivety. I would be interested in trying to help Poland though. We may butt heads sometimes, but you guys deserve better.
How is the police in Poland?
>>55387791
Not enough cheap housing.
>>55390049
Well your parents must be nice people allowing you to stay with them even if you work. You're lucky dude, that's a nice way to save up a lot of money
I considered that question for about two seconds
Then I realized that the answer would be because there aint any apartments left
>>55390231
You're a filthy commie who lives on his scabby knees.
You complain because your life long posture makes you available to suck any passing cock for sustenance, but it's what you were made for kid. Now get sucking you teenage faggot my balls are full and I got a shiny dollar here with your name in it
>>55390179
Finance and Econ.
>>55390404
Thread ID's are so nice
>>55387791
>What's wrong with Millennials?
It's mostly a legitimate lack of economic freedom.
All the jobs that pay well enough to start a household are just gone.
it's led to a sense of entitlement as well, and that never helped anything.
>>55387791
>ITT: trumpfags who still live with their parents
ALL OF MY KEK
>>55387791
People live with their families all the time in the wider world. Its normal to live with your family well into adulthood in other parts of the world. I personally would have loved to have been able to live free with parents when I was going to college.
>>55387791
>What's wrong with Millennials?
The generation that came before them collectively decided that everyone should get cheap mortgages, buy a house for 50k, paint the walls a slightly different shade of beige, then sell the house for 200k.
>>55389812
Not sure.
I'm surprised if you do a real degree (that will take you 35 hours a week AT LEAST sometimes a bit more sometimes less) and you can work more than 5-8 hours a week for a side job to pay for university and room. That shit is just impossible.
So you get into debt over your room, in the Netherlands it is like that. Average student debt I though is somewhere around ~30.000, average student debt of people who take on loans was somewhere around 40.000.
If you get along well with parents just stay with parents. "Student life" isn't all that great, you're fine going to a bar with a good friend yourself or even alone and you'll experience the same stuff. Frats are for the annoying type who needs to feel part of some shitty group, don't just move into rooms for this it will disappoint you and not worth 1 - 2 year(s) of work. As the average salary of most degrees starting is ~28.000 mid career 40.000-50.000. Of course tax goes from that salary as well so you end up with 19.000 of the 28.000 (I thought even less though) and this is per year.
It is utterly stupid to get into debts for studying as it will set you back the first 10 years of your life compared to people who just go and work at the McD right away and eventually move up to manager positions so before you catch up to these people salary wise you worked already like 10 years. I mean someone who is smart won't just stay burger flipper forever but will move up.
I'd say 60-70% of people my parents age(boomers) and probably a higher percentage of people in the golden generation(my grand parents age) had their life set up for them by the parents through inheritance, family businesses and other means.
People act like freedom of choice is a good thing but I'd argue that most people in their late teens/early 20's have no idea what they are doing which leads to apathy because they can't see life getting any better.
Every single fucking day.
Jeeze OP why do you want to make me feel guilty for sticking around to help my old man out? He's got a bum back, his ankles all but broken so he can't even run anymore and even if he won't admit it I'm worried his memory is going to shit.
He's the only family I give a shit about anymore and from a practical standpoint inheriting the house when he passes on is pretty good. Plus between our incomes we make some fucking bank and don't have to worry about losing everything.
Honestly if theres one thing the mexicans got right it's sticking together and supporting each other
>>55390166
If you managed to rack up 40.000 in debt as a student it's your own fault. How do you even do that.
>>55390256
The cops? Worse than yours, better than the septics. Mix of everything, really, some corrupt cunts, some ok people. But they all get their paycheck from the establishment, so at the end of the day, they are inimical to the citizenry.
Its the administration that are the real fucking cunts you have to watch out for. Our equivalents of your councils. Except nobody elects those bastards. They'll bleed you dry, shit on you, and make you thank them for the priviledge.
>>55390012
>>55390414
>no job prospect in sight unless someone literally just hired me without interviewing me at this point
This makes it sound like you're terrible at interviews, and that's the reason you don't have a job. Is that true?
>>55387791
Living outside of the home f your parents was an anomoly
Most people for all of time lived in family units most of their lives
Only between like 1960-2000. Was it feasible to move out on your own at a young age
Get fucked assclown
>>55390792
>implying that 40k is a lot in relative standards
I know people with Ph. Ds and Law degrees that serve cocktails at the casino my dad works for, up to their assholes in debt up to 120k.
>>55390440
You know what else is nice.
Getting a fucking job and being your own man.
Seriously non home owners shouldn't even be allowed to vote.
>>55390921
In the US I could understand it, but in the Netherlands? University in the Netherlands is a lot cheaper.
>>55387791
good goy, you should spend as much money as possible on shit you don't need.
>>55390012
Change resume. You're doing something wrong on your resume if you're not getting invited to interviews. Try to fill the 2 year gap that you didn't work with an excuse that you were taking care of someone or that you were orientating or some other stuff or try and look up some business that have closed and just write that you worked there for a time due to not finding anything. I know some closed business in Netherlands that I would just be able to write on my resume that I was the CEO off and nobody could actually check if this was true since there is no way to get into contact with the people who owned these business'.
HR departments are slavers who see you as a product not as a person. Be deceptive to them if you can get away with it.
Damnit I forget I was not on /biz/ but on /pol/
>>55390931
So how's shitposting going to evolve now that /pol/ has thread ID's?
>>55389791
I haven't lived at home since I was 18. I'm 30 now.
>>55387791
>never heard of the economic crisis and housing shortage
>>55390801
I see. Well from the sounds of it you are in a bit of a death spiral. The good people leave, the place gets worse so more good people leave. It can't be reversed unless people can trust the authorities again and see proper law and order being maintained as that's the basis of everything else.
Obviously I'm only basing this one what you tell me and what I know of how running a country generally works, so I may be miles off target but here's my worthless opinion anyway:
Take a small area of a few towns or a city maybe. Institute a zero tolerance policy regarding corruption in the police, and reform the local government. Drive out any gangs and the like from the area. Make that small experiment work and work properly, largely independent of the rest of the country. From that point others will see it the brain drain will redirect there. After a while others will see the success and try to emulate it along with you sending out your good people to help them implement it.
It's not much, but it sounds like a road to recovery.
>>55387791
Lol
If you are under 25 in my area you are more likely to be addicted to drugs or gambling then have a full time job
>>55387791
A
FUCKING
LEAF
>>55390792
It's the average.
If you do a WO bachelor in whatever, most of these degrees take 3 years. BUT! Very few complete them in 3 years and most need 3.5-4 years due to the study pressure being very high. If you get sick for a week or two you might just fail 2 subjects at once causing a delay of 2 months in study time. If they're at an awkward time like somewhere in the spring you still need to go that entire year yet you only go to the classes somewhere around spring.
And there is no study financing anymore. University is I thought 2000 a year, with books, bags and oter stuff more like 2200+/-. So this will cost you over the course of 4 years 8800. Then you have a room, room prices are roughly 400 bucks in Amsterdam, Utrecht , Rotterdam. That's another 4800 * 4 = 19600. Then you have food and other stuff to pay for on top lets say 200 a month (6 euro a day for food seems normal). 200 * 12 * 4 = 9600.
This boils down to ~38.000. If you on top of this do a vacation once a year it is easy to see how a debt of 40.000 is very easy to reach if you don't have any other income which you really can't have if you need to study 30-40 hours a week.
>>55387791
Money. Or more the lack of it.
I didn't get out of the home properly until I was 23 and lack of money was the simple reason for it.
>>55391402
What bachelor did you do though? I did a bachelor in American Studies (shit degree I know) for 2 years that I quit now because I make way more money online then I ever will with that shitty degree. I can imagine that some fields of study require 30-40 hours a week of studying but I studied maybe 7 hours a week on average and I never failed a class. It was ridiculously easy yet some students in my class claimed that they studied well over 40 hours a week. Maybe if you need to study that much to pass your classes you're just not cut out for university.
Also, if you're already finishing up your bachelor now then you still have study financing. Only the people who started a degree in 2014 or 2015 do not get study financing anymore.
I also lived at home though while I was doing my studies which cuts down your costs significantly.
My parents actually give a shit about me and want me to live in this house like a real family. I get the house and the land, and they don't want that out of the family like it has been for two generations now.
One day I will pass this house and everything to my child.
>>55387791
My parents live close to the university where I am studing.
>>55391402
>Failing a class in Bologna system
How mentaly challenged are you?
>>55387791
My parents don't want me to leave
>>55387791
>>living with mommy and daddy past the age of 18
fuck these paradigms
>have leave home at 18
>have to buy a car
>have to go to college
>have to get a girlfriend
>have to buy her a diamond
>have to have buy a house
>have to procreate
>have to buy diapers
>have to put the kids in day care
>have to put your parents in a nursing home
fuck this system that squeezes every last dime out of your pocket and makes a wage slave
if you can stand your family live less expensively in a multi-generational household
save your money
THIS IS HOW YOU FUCK THE MERCHANT
>>55391823
I'm not yet through my degree, I'm studying atm informatica (WO) at UvA. I'm just simply explaining how to get an average debt of ~35-40k in the Netherlands with a normal lifestyle.
I seriously need to study 30 hours a week man, sometimes if shit doesn't work or I had exams coming up I had to work 40-50 hours. Also I did economics before and I only needed around 20 hours weekly. I also include tutorials in the time I spend studying. So I go roughly 14 hours to university and then I spend 20 hours working on university itself.
Don't compare shit like Asian/American/ whatever studies to time consuming degrees that involve a lot of shit subjects like calculus and linear algebra. The math in economics 1st year was a joke compared to CS first year.
>>55387791
>Giving away your paycheck to strangers instead of your family or even saving it.
I moved out when I was 19 and all the money I burned on rent could have been used to buy a house by now and I am only 27. Asians have it right, wasting money on rent helps no one but the man. Pretty good propaganda to shame people living with their parents.
I can see wanting to move out if you are treated like a child though.
>>55392558
Consider the divorce rate and number of broken families in the USA. Then you also have stable families but children are treated poorly.
It's not really propaganda if the majority have a shitty family situation. Students are irresponsible and don't even know what they're getting into by moving out and getting into debt.
>>55391823
yeh but 200 a month for 3 years will just bring it down by 7200. If you get more your parents have a bad salary for end career.
>>55387791
>be me
>be 19
>be still in 6th form because redoing year because fucking stupid
>be living with parents
There are always exceptions m80
Yea because having traditional family values is a bad thing. I see most people who leave their house at 18 and they hate their family, they hate their life but those who stay behind to take care of their parents or even live with them still show compassion and are very down to earth people. The family unit is very important in the days of the Great Recession where everyone is building up mountains of debt then having no jobs available to pay it off,
>>55392744
I saw something about there being so many children from broken homes that even if someone has both parents they are fucked over because they socialize with the bad seeds.
>tfw child of single mother who was a child of a single mother
>Implying i can afford to raise a family, buy a house and a car at 25 in Europe.
save lods e $$$
near my college
i mean i have to fook the lady at her dorm but thats no problemo
>>55387791
>What's wrong with Millennials?
The country.
>>55387791
It's 2015
>not living like literally EVERY other culture on the planet has throughout all of human history
>not living like EVERY aristocratic house has and conserving the family's assets
There's plenty of things wrong with millennials but this isn't one of them.
Fucking white people, I swear.
No sense of filial piety or devotion
>>55387791
When the previous 2 generations turned real estate into a luxury item to be bought and sold for the highest possible prices, they essentially killed any opportunity for the majority of their offspring to own property of their own.
>be me
>actually have a strong traditional family unit
>parents let me move back in after University
>live there while working until 23
>save money like crazy
>buy a house
>mfw other people my age still blow all their money on nights out and renting shitty flats for £800 a month
It's no wonder the average first time buyer is in their 30s. Most people my generation are fucked but it's often self inflicted
>>55387791
who cares
#yolo NEETdom bitch ass maple bitch just shut ur ugly ass mouth before we rape you again canadakek
>>55393434
>conserving
Buying anime figurines and overpriced sex toys isn't "conserving"
>>55387791
it's not millennials that do that, it's just degenerates. most people who go to college or have some prospects will be out after 18, aside from maybe a couple summers and winters.
Literally no reason for me to move out. I work half a mile from my house, go to school 2 miles away. I help them out with bills but other than that I'm making some good money and don't have the time to spend it. The only benefit from me moving out is that I'd get to fuck more often but that doesn't offset 3 high quality home cooked meals a day with no effort from my part
>>55387791
>posting the same thread every day
What's wrong with spam bots?
>>55392016
> Get bacterial meningitis in June of year 2
> Miss exams due to infection risk
> Have to retake the year including paying 9k tuition
thats how easy it is here
>>55393951
Well shit. Nice to know 4chan's some special interest group's bitch.
>>55392475
You'll inherit your parent though, which will probably pay back the monetsry effort at least if theres only 1-2 kids
>>55393951
>bot
The real issue is that redditors are fucking incapable of avoiding bait. And they never sage. And /pol/ is at least 80% reddit by this point.
>>55393684
It's my fault my parents had me got me high all the time while we lived in only a car and abandoned me only a few months after I was born.
>>55394023
It's been going on for a while, and if I mention it I tend to get banned, so I guess the mods don't really care.
>>55394070
If its someone posting the same bait once in a while, I'd understand. But when you see the same image and same tagline 100+ fucking times, its a bot. Nobody is that autistic, not even /r9k/
>>55394130
Which means the mods are being told to ignore it because your admin/gook/chinaman is basically paid to let these through. Nice.
Why would I fucking live somewhere else if I'm studying near where my parents live?
Do you think students have money to waste renting apartments just for the sake of not living with their parents?
>>55394311
It's not a bot you fucking retard.
>/r9k/
>autistic
It's been just a bunch of redditors playing pretend for over a year now
>>55394439
Says the god damn Israeli.
>>55387791
I've moved out and now I'm back paying room and board whilst I save for a house of my own. Without being able to do this I'd be close to my thirties before I could afford a place myself. Unfortunately I can't do too much about the changes in the housing market since my teens, nor the lack of affordable housing, so I'm set trying to make the best of a bad scenario. I've more or less signed up for celibacy for a year. Shit sucks.
>>55394398
Likely there is someone or something trying to fish up responses. Or it are the mods themselves trying to incite some kind of discussion on a topic that won't lead to hugboxxing about ''joos''.
daily reminder that in sweden your shit out of luck when trying to get a own place due to lacking of apartments due to muhammads, negroids, chinks and other kind of filth getting to cut in line just due to them being foreigners.
Hell, not even the immigrationauthorities cant house them anymore.
guess that letting in about 10 000 nig nogs a week is starting to take its toll on this land...
>>55387791
>current year
>being able to support yourself before the age of 22
>>55387791
What's wrong with that? I'm Italian, I'm good looking, I have a job, and my mom wants me home, she cooks, she cleans, she loves me, I'm saving money up, what's the problem? In China men live with their mom until they're married
>>55387791
Its cheap, I only pay 300 for rent, Food and utilities included, get access to the entire house, and a safety net in case something goes wrong. I mean if you have your shit together then yeah get your own place, but moving out at age 18 is a terrible meme.
>>55393969
you don't get referred exams ? wtf
>>55387791
because even with a killer mortgage i'd need to save up something in the range of 20-30000 pounds, for a starter studio flat, which is near 45000 dollars of american monopoly money
>>55393714
You would know alot about "conserving"
>>55387791
>Being tricked into the family-splitting jew and leaving home early.
Traditionally, families would stay big, close and strong together in the one home, pooling their wealth together. Moving out has only been a norm until the last century or two when [[international business men]] shifted industry and employment into major city centres, forcing young people to move out of their hometowns to get employment.
Today moving out is continuing to be perpetuated because it is very valuable to real-estate investors because a greater amount of people renting. It is also valuable to corporations because young people spend a lot more when they have moved out of home.
TL;DR: moving out is scam to split your family and better milk your family's wealth
>>55393969
Yeah same, though over here you can follow some second year subjects.
But like I said I talked about hard degrees, I find the computer science degree I'm doing hard and I don't know anyone who doesn't already have pre knowledge (as in coded for 1-2 years apart from university) really needs at least 25 hours a week. The ones who put in less fail assignments and exams.
I'm not making study time up, a hard study in a STEM field will indeed cost a lot of time to get through material. Also some grading is absolutely skewed for some subjects I've had a 0 and had to retake an exam because of some project not being delivered on time through that site (even though I send it a day before). So I had to do a retake of the entire subject in a full exam to replace the grade.
Also you need to pass every subject to get the degree. Which just makes it a pain. Nobody is consistent for 3 years without a period where you're ill for 2-3 weeks. In a difficult degree or subject that basically means a retake which you likely fail since you have other subjects that pressure you as well.
Yeah sociology and studies like ''American studies'' are joke degrees, but don't expect a job in these degrees either you're just wasting time and you're not really developping a skillset that could benefit a business.