"ISIS are not representative of Islam!"
Can someone explain this? How is The Islamic State NOT representative of Islam?
Because DUDE SHITSLAM IS RELIGION OF PEACE LAMO
>one white person kills someone
>All white people are bad
Doesn't thier head nigger have a PhD in Islamic Studies? Can't imagine he knows anything about "true" islam
>>55380725
I could explain but would you believe me and continue on with your belief that they are representative of Islam?
>>55380945
I'd even explain that, but the phrase "pissing up a rope" springs to mind.
>>55380725
ISIS is a real world expression of orthodox Islam.
Anybody who says they aren't representative of Islam is a fool or a liar.
"ISIS are not representative of Islam!"
Is a famous Taqiya quote.
>>55380725
But they are representatives of Islam, or at least their own view of Islam.
Islam and muslims are not one single monolithic hivemind.
>>55380940
But this is exactly what dindus and libs seems to think.
>>55380940
SWEDEN YES
>>55380945
he has a doctorate in Islamic studies from the Islamic university of Baghdad. he served as a long time Islamic cleric.
the group is called the Islamic state. they enforce Islamic law and they want to rebuild the caliphate (which is on par with the jews wanting to rebuild the temple).
i think its a safe bet they are down with islam and know something about it.
>I don't get it, how can The Holy ROMAN Empire not be representative of all Romans?
Anybody seen the VICE doc?
For a terrorist organization they are pretty comfy
>tfw no CHRISTIS
>>55380725
because it's run by Mossad you dumb goy
>>55380725
It is representative of Islam. ISIS does exactly like the Quran teaches.
>>55381072
It's not even "Orthodox," it's actually very mainstream. Their teachings are based on the Salafists out of Saudi Arabia-- "The land of the two mosques--" and the only reason something like ISIS didn't Arise in Saudi Arabia in the 70s is bc they had the money to buy off (almost) all the sand niggers and to pay other countries to build their infrastructure and keep them in line. with oil prices as they are, you're going to see the house of Saud gone within 5-7 years and whatever emerges will be on the same level as ISIS. And they'll have "the two mosques" and then it will literally be a racial/religious war to the death with them. I personally can't wait. No matter what happens, seeing Mecca in ruins is worth the ticket price.
>Whenever Islam does something bad people are more concerned about right wing terrorism against moderate muslims
Those poor moderate people apart of a religion only spread by conquest in its 1.5 millenia hiatory ;_;
I know for a fact that the majority (not all, but the vast majority) of muslims here all secretly cheer on ISIS behind closed doors. They all just pretend like ISIS doesn't exists...or they all put the blame on the "western" people for ISIS and shift the responsibility.
You're delusional if you think otherwise.
That's not a bad way to put it. They are a small group when compared to the total number of Muslims on earth, and very few practice the religion like they do. It's much better than the "ISIS is not Islamic" stuff I occasionally hear.
>>55381293
link
>>55381395
Would you hold me tight and let me feed you sweets while we both watch the satanic bastards burn, anon?
>>55381520
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUjHb4C7b94
has a pretty slow start though
>>55380725
Wouldn't Christianity be similar if the followers followed the bible literally?
>>55380725
Is this really the first time you've caught a Muslim lying?
If it is, you've probably done a lot of Muslims tons of favors by now and didn't ever realize it.
>>55381603
thanks germanbro
>>55381622
No, because the Bible LITERALLY does not claim to be infallible word of god to be taken literally. It's written AFTER the events by various authors and it claims that, too, doesn't it?
Can anyone check?
Anyway, Muslims believe Qu'ran to be god's direct commands.
>>55381622
No.
>Don't avenge yourself but leave room for God's revenge
>Who draws the sword will die by the sword
And all other things Jesus preached about pacifism
>>55381266
I'm a retard - the post!
>>55380725
its called taqiyya
islam is not a religion its a form of government based entirely on deception
>>55380725
It doesn't fit taqqiyya or the "peaceful brown people full of culture" agenda.
>>55381082
"zionism is not representative of judaism"
>>55380725
Salam alaikum
You see the ISIS are not real muslims so their not representative of Islam which is peaceful
Hope this helps
Its almost endearing how honest they are about what they do and what their goals are. In some ways you can't really hate them because of how committed they are to what they believe in.
Every video they release carefully shows why what they're doing is totally backed up by the koran and hadith, so for anyone to say they're not 'islamic' is absurd.
>>55380832
nice meme
>>55380725
Because Islam is peaceful. Pic very much related.
>>55380725
Here's an in-depth article on Ibrahim al-Badri AKA Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi's life story
http://www.brookings.edu/research/essays/2015/thebeliever
He's a devout Muslim and has a PhD in Islamic Studies from the Islamic University of Baghdad.
>>55382102
This is lies. He is jewish mossad
>>55380725
Just some jumbled thoughts. I can't put it more cohesively but feel free to read it
As much as I hate islam itself let me try to play devils advocate for a second, well more or less
They are literal Muslims. They are not representative of modern first world islam, which is a very watered down compromise. I think thats their point.
Most of modern muslims in modern society are bad muslims because they don't follow the quran literally. Just as how the modern church is full of terrible christians for accepting gays and divorces etc.
They are not representative of every muslim in the world, especially not in the first world.
HOWEVER the problem lies in how many muslims actually DO NOT CONDONE ISIS, some of them even silently accept their actions. They are in a minority in the first world but the size of that minority is too high to not be raised as an issue.
What I absolutely hate is the term "Islamophobia". Muslims in the first world should cooperate with society to condemn those violent extremists. Islam needs a reform just as christianity had if its trying to survive in the first world, yet believers insist on throwing a smokescreen on all the problems islamic culture inherently has and spawns instead of fighting them.
>>55382173
>a mossad agent cannot go to university and study islam
>>55381202
That could all be a coincidence though.
>>55380940
A well organized group that use specific verses of a religion to murder and receives financial support from members of the same religion all while not being unanimously denounced by the religion.
Same as one white person.
Your time is coming Ahmed. You will be easier to find in Europe and eradicated. It could be tonight, the storm is rising.
>>55381001
Kill yourself, like you've planned.
In their literature and announcements and essentially all of their material, they go into absurd depth about how all their actions fit perfectly with Islam.
Only someone who was determined beyond reason to see Islam as the religion of peace would say ISIS' actions are unislamic.
>>55382227
He's not a muslim
>>55381001
>I could explain
>but I won't
cunt t b h
>>55380725
They are part of the islamic world which is currently dominated by violent degenerates. Islam is and was never a religion of peace, and thats it. Everyone who says otherwise is a blatant liar. There is no moderate and peaceloving islam.
>>55382340
No, you're right - he's a jew.
For someone pretending to be the head of all muslims he sure does not appear in any kind of manner to the people.
>>55382419
Because he gets blown the fuck up every time he tries. His convoy has been hit at least twice; we have no idea how many injuries he sustained as a result, or even if he's still alive.
It is forbidden in Islam to issue fatwas without all the necessary learning requirements. Even then fatwas must follow Islamic legal theory as defined in the Classical texts. It is also forbidden to cite a portion of a verse from the Qur’an—or part of a verse—to derive a ruling without looking at everything that the Qur’an and Hadith teach related to that matter. In other words, there are strict subjective and objective prerequisites for fatwas , and one cannot ‘cherry-pick’ Qur’anic verses for legal arguments without considering the entire Qur’an and Hadith .
It is forbidden in Islam to oversimplify Shari’ah matters and ignore established Islamic sciences.
It is permissible in Islam [for scholars] to differ on any matter, except those fundamentals of religion that all Muslims must know.
It is forbidden in Islam to ignore the reality of contemporary times when deriving legal rulings.
It is forbidden in Islam to kill the innocent.
It is forbidden in Islam to kill emissaries, ambassadors, and diplomats; hence it is forbidden to kill journalists and aid workers.
Jihad in Islam is defensive war. It is not permissible without the right cause, the right purpose and without the right rules of conduct.
It is forbidden in Islam to declare people non-Muslim unless he (or she) openly declares disbelief.
It is forbidden in Islam to harm or mistreat—in any way—Christians or any ‘People of the Scripture’.
It is obligatory to consider Yazidis as People of the Scripture.
The re-introduction of slavery is forbidden in Islam. It was abolished by universal consensus.
It is forbidden in Islam to force people to convert.
It is forbidden in Islam to deny women their rights.
It is forbidden in Islam to deny children their rights.
It is forbidden in Islam to torture people.
It is forbidden in Islam to disfigure the dead.
It is forbidden in Islam to attribute evil acts to God ï·».
It is forbidden in Islam to declare a caliphate without consensus from all Muslims.
Ask a muslim, study the reaction. Chances are, he'll start dissembling. Outright condemnation is too damn rare.
Don't kid yourself, the average muslim supports those fucks, even if just by indifference.
>>55380725
Islam has so many branches its even not a relevant question anymore.
Besides ISIS is actually the only one branch that is the closest to what islam is supposed to be like
ISLAM never was a religion of peace, its a religion of overthrowing sneaky lying faggots who thinks its normal to rape kids.
Only thing that I like in islam is that women are treated like they are supposed to be treated.
America and other SJW bullshit leftist countries should implement some basic islamic rules to keep their crazy ass feminists and multiculturalism lovers under a whip
>>55382517
This guy knows.
ISIS IS NOT MUSLIM.
>>55380725
>2015
>still believing in not 2015
>not liking all muslims in 2015
dude, it's 2015. Stop that racism
>>55382517
>It is forbidden in Islam to deny children their rights.
Then why does the Quran say that you should beat your wife if she steps out of line?
>>55380725
>>55380832
>>55380940
>>55380945
>>55381082
ISIS is practicing true Islam.
>>55382517
No.
>>55381881
Was going to post this. (don't forget the filename moderate muslims.jpg).
>>55382517
Don't taint leftypol with your mudslime revisionism, Islam is a fascist religion and will be completely purged when capitalism is destroyed and the revolution sweeps the world.
>>55382890
>>55382517
All of those things are done in the name of allah every single day, and no muslim tries to stop any one of them.
>>55382517
>iran not islamic
>muhammad not islamic
>every single arab-muslims state not islamic
>muslims not islamic
>islam not islamic
this is what muslims believe
>>55382517
GR8 B8 M8. All Muslims want Sharia Law worldwide. Your argument is invalid.
>>55382969
>Islam is a fascist religion
this
it's anti-enlightenment, no division of church and state
>>55382969
Pure autism why are all leftcUcks so insane?
>>55383011
It's not what they believe, it's what they claim to believe to get away with believing it.
>>55382991
>>55383057
*It's not what they believe, it's what they claim to believe to get away with NOT believing it.
muslims say that, but ask them to prove it and they can't. isis = islam.
>>55382517
>"Islam doesn't allow violence unless Islam says it's okay!"
>"It is forbidden in Islam to kill the innocent- so kuffar and muslims from different sects are fair game because they're guilty"
>"killing journalists = killing ambassadors and that isn't just my selective reasoning"
>"Jihad is defensive war- so bombing people is okay if you justify it as defense."
>"Slavery was abolished by universal consensus- admitting that 'we just decided to change it' works as a way of changing the explicit Koranic text that permits slavery."
>Those last 7
>What is Surah 2 Ayah 106
Manipulative carbetbagger, get out of Canada, those guys deserve better than underhanded selfish fucks like you
>>55382835
No they aren't
>>55382890
So many lies lmao
>>55383137
>>55380725
its like saying the KKK is representative of white people/christian.
not to defend islam or anything, but you guys should stop being stupid for a sec, people would take you more seriously
>>55383217
Are you stupid? You can easily google all this stuff!
>>55383266
>the KKK is representative of white people/christian.
this is true though
>>55380725
Islam has so many branches its even not a relevant question anymore.
Besides ISIS is actually the only one branch that is the closest to what islam is supposed to be like
ISLAM never was a religion of peace, its a religion of overthrowing sneaky lying faggots who thinks its normal to rape kids.
Only thing that I like in islam is that women are treated like they are supposed to be treated.
America and other SJW bullshit leftist countries should implement some basic islamic rules to keep their crazy ass feminists and multiculturalism lovers under a whip
>>55383189
>pol is so blue pilled that they would believe jewish anti-islam propaganda
>>55382704
>>55382517
well if there is anyone who knows islam its the cunuks and the brits
amirite?
>>55383051
Less insane than defending the religion that skullfucked your country into irrelevance.
>>55383189
Stupid stupid burger.
1. No English translation of the Qur'an is correct really
2. You are taking out of context.
>>55383273
It is manipulation of the words
>>55383354
Marx didn't fight for shit lad.
>>55383217
>So many lies lmao
what is the lie? a random sample of the citations provided seem to check out.
>>55383354
>talking about how Islam isn't that bad
>get all your bullshit totally called out
>desperately switch tactics and try to derail with an (admittedly impressive) quadruple-threat SJW, Nazi, Socialism AND 'da jooz' gambit to try and derail the conversation and prevent the obvious logical conclusions about Islam.
Ahmed plz
>>55383266
>not defending islam or anything
>defends islam and anything
so your point is not to make a point by making it. fuck your algerian logic, is this the product of the land of a million martyr ? what a fucking shame. im not surprised, i've met about 20 algerian prostitutes in montreal, guess you guys are degenerates.
>>55383340
Inshallah brother, inshallah.
>>55383400
>It is manipulation of the words
I see. While in the common translations one should behead infidels, in old arabic on the contrary one should put flowers in their arses. Thank you for the enlightment.
Shariah law dictates believers are allowed to lie for their personal/religious good.
All of those claiming Isis is not representing the majority are a bunch of liars trying to gain our trust. Don't be blue pilled.
>>55383458
You need to read the entire context.
>>55383625
get the fuck out of Britain you shit skin
>>55383400
>Islam only counts as 'real' islam if it's read in an extremely difficult and esoteric language completely obscure to 99% of the world
>M.A.p.b.u.h. was this aware that an appeal to ignorance was the only way his teachings could survive getting trashed by logical inquiry
>No matter what 'real Islam' is, the majority of 'muslims' are wrong because they 'take it out of context' of what 'real' muslims (like you apparently) believe, but that doesn't change the fact that they are muslims.
>Unless they do something like rape a child or blow up a market, THEN it proves they 'aren't REALLY muslim.'
Any country where Islam takes over becomes objectively worse. Or does that not count because it's always 'out of context'? Pathetic rationalizing ass.
>>55383699
Reported to the royal Islamic council for hate crime. You will regret these words vile uncivilized cumskin.
>>55380725
You act like an autistic child in deep needs, canuknadian child in deep needs.
>>55383558
In a Spanish Inquisition type situation sure.
Not just when it suits someone to get a job or avoid jail
>>55382517
>Jihad in Islam is defensive war. It is not permissible without the right cause, the right purpose and without the right rules of conduct.
while the illiterate mohammed was alive motherfuckers expanded like locusts conquering all arabian peninsula and then some.
also he was a warrior. enslaved whole nations and killed in a most brutal manner.
islam is a mexican cartel inspired religion.
it has only one rule: kill all non-muslims
thre rest is bullshit
>>55383625
>You need to read the entire context.
kek'd
>>55383625
whats your opinion on jihad pakifag ? im not talking about self jihad im talking about jihad against the non believers. obviously the koran says you should fight them until all religion is to god. and here's another question, if khawarij had a war with non muslims, would the muslims fight side to side with khawarij or help the non muslims against khawarij ?
>>55383625
>You need to read the entire context.
so then they are not lies?
>>55383797
The main goal is converting all of the world to Islam. Who says they are not the new goys entering our internal governments.
>>55383760
So let me get this straight, your dumbass religion is so incompetent that nobody can really grasp the underlining meaning of any of it and this creates conflict?
Am I in the ballpark? The fact that there are hundreds of contradictions in your holy book really speaks for itself.
>>55383798
and before he was alive that region was an absolute shitfest with tribes going to war over a stolen goat
>>55380725
>0.01% of the worldwide muslim population
>representative of Islam as a religion
Ever wondered why don't worldwide muslim population recognize the legitimacy of this self proclaimed "Caliphate"?
>>55380725
Silly fuckin' Jews...go bang your head against a wall until blind.
>>55383921
u wot m8
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/05/25/shock-poll-81-of-al-jazeera-arabic-poll-respondents-support-isis/
>>55383921
Actually the numbers of Muslims that support things like Isis is anywhere between 20 and 60% depending on the country
Current estimates say that about 15-20% support extremist Muslim measures which is about 250 million people
>>55383921
Shut up you Bosnian dog, your country got wrecked by the ottomans and instead of keeping your culture you threw it away for degeneracy.
>>55380725
Because they adhere to Salafism, a sect in Islam. It has its differences with orthodox Islam.
>>55382517
I'm an ex-Muslim. Don't trust this faggot. He copied and pasted this shit from some apologist website. IS today is the closest thing to Islam out there.
Also, fuck you filthy manipulative faggot.
>>55383921
FUCKING BOSNIA KEBAB BASED SERBIA WILL REMOVE YOU AND ISIS AND FINISH THE JOB FILTHY BOSNIAN RASCAL
>>55383921
arguing that islam is or is not a religion of peace is retarded.
one that goes into a debate with a muslim on this matter only legitimizes the rag head muslim.
>>55384182
>I'm an ex-Muslim
how's life in hiding from your sandal wearing bearded friends?
>>55383217
yes they are, since islam doesnt have any standards
/rekt
>>55384010
>an internet poll
Nice try, Chaim.
>>55384014
>Current estimates say that about 15-20% support extremist Muslim measures which is about 250 million people
Nice source. What are extremist Muslim measures? Who did conduct the estimates?
Why don't you find me any relevant Muslim organization that recognize the legitimacy of this Caliphate. :^)
>>55384014
aljazeera has a program called the opposite direction, this program does polls and one of their polls was, is isis's means are justified for their intended end ? almost 90% of 50 thousand votes voted yes they are justified. i remember one time a communist was supporting isis on the show, while the anti isis guy was a syrian"moderate rebel", absolutely infinite kek.
>>55382272
I also think the 2nd gen immigrant next door who lives a western lifestyle and doesn't do anything islamic other than praying (except when he doesn't) and who preaches tolerance and integration is the more trustworthy source what "true" Islam is.
I do wonder though why so many muslims "radicalize" once they start going to mosques regularly and come into contact with muslim clerics. It truly is a mystery. I think the patriarchy might be involved.
>>55384104
>>55384185
>>55384191
Nice arguments there, faggots.
>>55384272
http://www.chicagonow.com/an-agnostic-in-wheaton/2014/10/muslim-facts-make-ben-affleck-angry/
>>55384182
>ex-Muslim
2edgy4me
>>55384419
Lel. Did you even read the poll questions there? How do these polls (about appliance of Sharia law) confirm Muslims worldwide acknowledge the legitimacy of this particular CALIPHATE?
>>55384533
Nice clock Cockmed
>>55384552
if you are alright with all the bullshit islam practices then you are ok in living in a place where those practices are going now.
from now on i will replace retard with muslim.
you are a huge muslim.
>>55384605
Nice nose Chaim
>>55383815
>>55383873
>>55383885
>>55384249
You people choose to read the trains of Islam add you like to fit your racist worldview.
Islam is peaceful. We do not go around bombing innocent countries like you for the past 50 years in the middle east
"ISIS are not representative of Islam!"
>>55384638
>being pro-Shaira means being pro-particular self proclaimed Caliphate
You're doing it wrong, Razvan.
I'm not suprised desu, since you have no concept what Caliphate is and what it means both theologically and practically in Islam.
>>55384182
>I'm an ex-Muslim
How many death threats have you received?
>>55384824
>criticizing religion
>being a racist
dude...
>>55384287
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iAWgDpuvjM
Kek, he's a communist and supports IS, he's even a bit religious while arguing
>>55384898
ok. your problem is not that islam is a mexican cartel inspired religion.
your problem is that some rag heads in siria and iraq proclaimed their desert the caliphate.
hang yourself
>>55384991
Muslims are the race of servants of Allah (swt)
>>55384987
He kills them with his edginess.
>>55385156
Is it edgy to leave Islam?
>>55380725
>How is The Islamic State NOT representative of Islam?
because of liberals
>>55384824
>We do not go around bombing innocent countries
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Islamist_terrorist_attacks
>>55385106
Well, this is your very own definition of the term race.
>>55385244
>that guy in the pic
Why do they always look like that?
>>55385156
>He's so butthurt someone left his shitty cult that he constantly needs to post about that person, even with the same shitty meme
>>55380725
> Not All Muslims Are Like That
> Not All Feminists Are Like That
> Not All Black People Do That
> All Men Are Oppressors
> All Christians Are Imperialists
Because it's negative in the eyes of leftist useful idiots. Anything negative about their pet groups is automagically not true in their minds.
If Muslims are responsible for it, and even a minority of Muslims agree with it and support it, then it's a legit version of Islam, that's all it takes. To Leftists, their white guilt has gone beyond just feeling bad, and become hatred for people like themselves. They do mental backflips trying to convince themselves they are no longer "like those other white people, who are evil". It's why women date outside their race or convert to eastern religions.
>>55380940
And anything negative about groups they hate is automagically "not nearly true enough".
https://youtu.be/JquXlQTBWOo
https://youtu.be/3SgLSV9Mgfw
https://youtu.be/HF3VaJdConY
I see the Scottish poster who pretends to a Muslim is still posting on here.
He has each of you hook line and fucking sinker.
You really should be ashamed of yourselves for falling for it or not seeing it months ago.
Albeit he's calmed down his shit posting, it's not daily like it used to be.
>>55380725
Because a huge majority of the Islamic population in the world doesn't support ISIS or it's endeavours. Just as dickwards like Breivik isn't representative of christianity since the vast majority of christians condemn his actions.
>>55385259
These were not muslims.
>>55385280
No it is the correct definition.
>>55385397
>These were not Muslims
Says who?
>>55385387
Who are you talking about?
>>55385447
Says me, an actual muslim
>>55385085
Nope, what you or I think of Islam is not the subject of discussion. It's wether 0.01% of the worldwide muslim population is representative of Islam as a religion. Check again my first post that you replied to. >>55383921
If you're not capable to follow the subject of this simple topic don't waste my time any longer.
>>55385390
Did Breivik do what he did in the name of Christinaity? Genuinely curious
>>55384824
Muslims have been invading Europe non-stop for 1,400 years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y
>>55380725
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulLUV_XxQmo
>>55385479
Well who are you to decide who is and isn't a real Muslim? What if they made the claim that YOU weren't a real Muslim, and they know that because THEY'RE real Muslims?
>>55385506
This is not true. ALLAH(swt) proclaimed that ALL the land is to be for the muslims. It is YOU who continually invade and occupy our land.
>>55385455
You.
Did your ban expire or have you found out how to evade bans?
Is that why you're back shit posting?
>>55380725
>>55385586
Alright, now we know for sure that this is a bait.
Thanks lad.
You wouldn't happen to be Polish by any chance, would you?
>>55385544
They would be a liar as I am a real muslim following the teachings and will of Allah (swt)
>>55385586
Says the shitskin invader. In my land.
>>55384832
> Taqqiya? Never heard of it.
> http://www.raymondibrahim.com/islam/taqiyya-about-taqiyya/
>>55385586
>guaranteed replies
>>55385629
His English is too good.
He's a Scot. I recognise his posting style, he used to make daily threads promoting Islam, then it stopped for a while and well now he's back!
>>55385589
No idea what you are talking about, perhaps you have menthal issues ?
>>55385629
No bait here
>>55385662
I was born here, this is more my land than it is yours, my ancestry can be traced back over 900 years and is purely celtic/Scottish, this land belongs to Allah (swt) as does all land, I have the right to be here; you do not. Fuck off to the moon or something or the ocean.
>>55385486
>what you or I think of Islam is not the subject of discussion
actually it is.
i don't care about where your caliphate is, is not or if there is a need for it.
islam is a mexican cartel inspired religion and the vast majority of muslims are ok with stoning for adultery, chopping hands for stealing, beheading, killing those that are atheist etc.
most "rules" in islam are debatable to say the least.
where the muslims defending themselves when they conquered constantinople?
where the muslims defending themselves when they conquered the balkans?
where the austrians threatening them in vienna?
>>55380725
Every Muslim thinks his way is the right way, so Western Muslims believe their beliefs apply to all Muslims. They don't realize that Islam practiced in the desert is different than the Islam practiced in New York.
Although many Muslims may find ISIS's methods distasteful, they're no more distasteful than Muhammad's and the later Caliph's were.
>>55385586
I keep saying Islam rationalizes horrible things.
>>55385693
Is this what a Scottish muslim looks like?
>>55385769
>I was born here, this is more my land than it is yours, my ancestry can be traced back over 900 years and is purely celtic/Scottish, this land belongs to Allah (swt) as does all land, I have the right to be here; you do not. Fuck off to the moon or something or the ocean.
See, what did I say?
>>55385693
>>55385693
Put this Scotc.uck on ignore.
>>55385390
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/05/25/shock-poll-81-of-al-jazeera-arabic-poll-respondents-support-isis/
a lot of them do.
>>55385847
>Ginger
>Fat
>Goofy blue eyes
Yep. Albeit this fucker was born in England I know his mother Alison is Scottish.
Yeah I actually live round the corner from this fat ugly cunt. He has a god damn wife that wears the ninja outfit and he has a little suicide bomber child.
>>55385769
Your ancestors are spinning in their graves. You've betrayed them. Disgusting. Kill yourself. I'm not joking. Kill yourself.
>>55380725
"Westboro baptist church are not representative of Christianity!"
Can someone explain this? How is The Westboro Baptist Church NOT representative of Christianity?
>>55385846
Islam does away with horrible things in favour of justice
>>55385847
>>55385945
Note the ginger cunt behind the nigger.
>>55383921
Sarajevo market bomb was a false flag by kebab to generate sympathy from NATO.
>>55386010
He's a fucking troll, he's as Islamic as you are good looking.
Ignore him, he used to do this shit daily.
>>55386010
That's not very nice. Suicide is Haram. Only Allah(swt) has the right to take life away
>>55386011
It is. It's a baptist church. Westboro. BAPTIST. CHURCH.
>>55386112
So because WBC is insane, your logic is that all christians are batshit?
>>55386068
Why do you think I am a troll? If you stop using foul language like a gangster rapper perhaps we can converse and you can see why islam is tbe truth.
>>55386068
You're right.
I am quite good looking though.
>>55385779
>p-please pay attention to how I see Islam
Why don't you get back to the topic of this thread, and that is wether ISIS (0.01%) is representative of Islam as a religion. I'll ask you again: can you find a single relevant Muslim institution in the world that recognize the legitimacy of this Caliphate? In contrast, I can find you many Muslim majority countries that officially designated ISIS as a terrorist state. :^)
You can do it. Don't let me down now, Razvan. :^)
>>55386163
Not very smart are you?
>>55386226
Smarter than you, so I weep for your intelligence.
>>55380725
It represents Judaism and Mammon, ya dolt.
>>55386112
It has a 'congregation' of about 30.
American protestant christianity is retarded btw.
>>55380725
ISIS takes islam literally. ISIS is the pure form of Islam.
>>55386279
See these.
>>55385693
>>55385769
>He's a Scot. I recognise his posting style, he used to make daily threads promoting Islam
Then a minute and a half later before you even saw my post you say this.
>I was born here, this is more my land than it is yours, my ancestry can be traced back over 900 years and is purely celtic/Scottish
I know who you are and still you remain defiant.
Games over c.uck.
>>55383354
Your pic is retarded.
Marxists are the ones that want to mix everyone and expect it to work, aren't they?
>>55386162
Westboro Baptist Church might present their message in a skewed way. But they are avowed Christians and it is not contradictory with Christianity. And the reason they are embarrassing is precisely because they do represent Christianity, just as fat, ignorant, loud, drunken Americans represent America when they go abroad. They just do it badly, according to current PR standards.
>>55386222
>ISIS (0.01%) is representative of Islam as a religion
it's a fact, they follow islam to the last letter.
there is nothing to debate regarding isis.
even their leader is an islamic scholar. thought you at least knew that, abdul.
>>55386392
What's my name then?
I am a true son of Scotland who converted to islam years ago as it is the truth and the best.
>>55386326
I agree. Anglicanism is the one true religion.
>>55380940
well its a little more than one person.
If thousands of white christians would just randomly start killing entire villages and throw a country into chaos to create a "christian" state while the majority of christians kept silent just voicing objections whenever somebody criticizes their religion i would surely question all that.
Its just that something comparable doesnt happen and never happened before either.
>>55386222
Yknow the first people to bathe were the romans and greeks? They used oils and perfumes as well as water. Once the empire fell bathing was seen as unhealthy and rarely done, and only by nobility. The lower class did not have access to clean water most of the time so they couldn't bath. But as time went on, most houses have gained access to running water, cheap shampoo, deodorant and diapers at the drug store. Now, even with all these resources and tools at your disposal and you still chose to smell like shit
>>55386453
Are you Jordan Horner?
If you are then you live in Walthamstow, near St James Street and you've just come out of prison.
And I said I recognised your posting style, please learn to read you stupid inbred.
>>55386433
They kill innocents, that is haram
They kill muslims, that is haram
They torture, that is haram
They pray in the wrong direction
They mostly kill other muslims which proves they are western jewish covert operation
They burn people alive, that is very haram, only ALLAH (swt) may punish with fire.
>Abstain from sex, except with the captives whom your right hand possesses - for, in their case, you are free from blame.
Qur’an 23:1-6
>Guard your chastity, except with the captives whom your right hand possesses - for then you are not to be blamed.
Qur’an 70:22-30
>He said that raping me is his prayer to god.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/08/he-said-that-raping-me-is-his-prayer-to-god
>Jihad-rape
https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=jihad+rape
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aylesbury_sex_gang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rochdale_sex_trafficking_gang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derby_sex_gang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_sex_gang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telford_sex_gang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_sex_gang
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peterborough_sex_abuse_case
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banbury_sex_gang
>>55386545
I think you need to make an appointment with your gp for a psych referral, you genuinely sound like some kind of paranoid schizophrenic. Get help man.
>>55386426
If you think the WBC are christians, and not a family of lawyers living off of suing people for depriving them of their civil rights, you have absolutely no grounds to criticize any American christian, as you have proven yourself to be without discernment whatsoever.
>>55386487
>If thousands of white christians would just randomly start killing entire villages and throw a country into chaos to create a "christian" state while the majority of christians kept silent just voicing objections whenever somebody criticizes their religion i would surely question all that.
you just described the iraq and afghanistan wars
>>55386634
>Says the inbred that spends his days trolling a Taiwanese basket weaving site.
>>55386678
So they're not Christians then? I think they might disagree with your definition. But ok. :^)
Simply do not believe what any mudslime is telling you. It's in their religion to lie and backstab you.
They will lie in your face.
>>55386588
You do realize that even breitbart had articles dating these girls were sluts and doing it for money etc as well as their own pleasure?
Those seductresses tempted innocent men and forced them to commit vile acts. These seductresses punishments will be great on the day of fire,
>>55386573
>They kill innocents, that is haram
what is innocent? debatable as fuck
>They kill muslims, that is haram
what is a muslim? this is debatable
>They torture, that is haram
what constitutes torture? is feather tickling torture? this is debatable
>They pray in the wrong direction
that was a video with a bunch of them overly happy from killing some soldiers. an honest mistake i guess.
>They mostly kill other muslims which proves they are western jewish covert operation
they mostly kill some people (wether they are muslims by isis standards is debatale).
since islam wiped out christianity during centuries of harrasment who else would you expect they would kill?
>They burn people alive, that is very haram, only ALLAH (swt) may punish with fire.
i thought allah was about peace and shit. now he kills with fire?
>>55386832
>>55386433
>it's a fact, they follow islam to the last letter.
Serbs genocided Muslims (the only genocide on European soil after WW2). Are they representative of Orthodox Christianity as a whole?
>there is nothing to debate regarding isis.
Yes, there is nothing to debate. Even Muslim countries designate them as a terrorist organization. :^)
>even their leader is an islamic scholar. thought you at least knew that, abdul
Says wikipedia. It's written there he's leader since 2010, yet there is not a single video seconds of him preaching shit (exept that 5 second cut without sound) so we don't know how knowledgable he is. We don't know for a fact if he's alive at all.
>>55386545
Jordan Horner is not Scottish, he's some kind of northerner.
>>55386573
> They kill muslims, that is haram
> Yazid the Well-Guided
> haram
>>55386832
Let's entertain your trolling.
Muslims have to live by Sharia. Sharia is the governing body of Islam and the Caliphate.
So, you say Islam is peaceful, sure okay let's just discard the Hadiths lel. Let's focus on Sharia law.
Do you think it's acceptable to kill someone for leaving Islam? Do you think it's acceptable to cut a hand off for stealing?
Do you think it's acceptable to ban music, singing, dancing, drinking, smoking and other freedoms that we currently enjoy in the West?
Bearing in mind Sharia is applicable to all Muslims and must be adhered to. Do you still think it's peaceful to punish those for expressing free will?
>>55386487
>If thousands of white christians would just randomly start killing entire villages and throw a country into chaos to create a "christian" state while the majority of christians kept silent just voicing objections whenever somebody criticizes their religion i would surely question all that.
That's almost literally what happened here in 90s. :^)
>>55386685
no i didnt. I really really didnt. Not even close Achmed.
>>55386946
Allah HATES the wicked, just as God in christianity does. The wicked are punished with unquenchable fire for all eternity in christianity, in the peaceful religion of Islam though they are given redemption over time and their punishment is not eternal. Just one of the ways islam BTFOs christianity in terms of peace and justice.
>>55386433
>it's a fact, they follow islam to the last letter.
false, they actually do not
just ne example : they use pictures in their propaganda newspaper
phtos of humans are haram
>even their leader is an islamic scholar
there are hundred of thousand of islamic scholars over the globe
these islamic scholars disagree with each other on numerous points so it's not like what they say is the word of Allah Most High
>>55387057
no its not. The Nato stopped that shit and nobody kept silent about it.
>>55386982
>Are they representative of Orthodox Christianity as a whole?
Pretty much.
Also they are certainly representative of their church, which is the Serbian Orthodox church, which is entirely independent from other Orthodox churches, unlike, say 'the french catholic church' which is a part of the Roman church.
>>55386998
Nah he's English, was born in England.
His mother Alison is actually Scottish, she was a dinner lady at my primary school.
I remember her coming in with a black eye, then a few weeks later she started wearing a Hijab. She used to be really talkative and kind, then she went quiet, distant and avoided conversation.
She had a thick Scottish accent and I know Jordan because I used to bully him.
You can believe me or not it doesn't matter but it's the truth. lel.
>>55386982
>Serbs genocided Muslims (the only genocide on European soil after WW2). Are they representative of Orthodox Christianity as a whole?
they did it on behalf of their ethnicity. i didn't see any videos of serbs killing for orthodoxy.
not everybody thinks in religious terms abdul.
>Even Muslim countries designate them as a terrorist organization.
yes, a minority of countries may have designated isis as a terrorist organization. i bet iran is on that list. doesn't mean iran is not an islamic shithole.
baghdadi is an islamic scholar. get over it.
>>55387090
yes you did, I saw plenty of American soldiers preaching Jesus in Afghanistan and screaming "Jesus Christ" as they dropped a thousand lbs JDAM bomb on a civilian Iraqi city
how can you even be this delusional ?
>>55387180
>they did it on behalf of their ethnicity
their ethnicity is dictated by their religion.
if they were catholic they'd be called 'croats'.
'orthodoxy' is an umbrella term, they worship saints not worshipped by other orthodox.
theirs is an independent serbian church.
>>55380725
>Can someone explain this? How is The Islamic State NOT representative of Islam?
The particular school of Islamic jurisprudence that IS subscirbe to was formulated in the Nejz and Hijaz deserts in the 17th and 18th Century. This is the same area (broadly) that Mohammaed and his companions lived in. Because of this, certain cultural featues (such as full veil, cutting off hands for theft etc) of that region that were featues of the first Caliphate in 700AD, but which weren't continued in later years, are in the Koran itself. Most Islamic societies have got round this by selective "intrepretation" of the texts and many schools of jurisprudence. ISIS and Wahabbis reject this and make sincere attempt to implement the Koran exactly as their ancestors wrote it in 700AD.
Good 3-part essay on this:
pdf http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/npqu.11504/epdf
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-wahhabism-saudi-arabia_b_5717157.html
They reject the authenticity and the legitimacy of other Caliphate regimes (ie the Ottomans, Abbasids, Safavids and so on) and seeks to bring back the Islam of Mohammed himself. This is called Salafism - to treat the prophet and his mates as the supreme example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salafi_movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahhabism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Abd_al-Wahhab
ISIS are also apocalyptic and believe they are fulfilling Koranic prophecy. By bringing about a caliphate worthy of the prophet himself out of the ruins of the 20th Century they are acting in accordance to their interpretation of ISIS end of the world theory. So yeah, it is similar to 16th 17th century Millenarian puritans basically.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980/
These are things which make them markedly different from other Muslim societies in the past.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no5RCHRbknk
>>55387137
Yes, it is. The fact that third power stopped it doesn't mean it didn't happen almost exacly as you described it. Also, those that commited it (exactly as you described) certainly kept silent about it. :^)
>>55387039
Yes it is acceptable to kill for being an apostate, indeed, it is an act of mercy. For every second they live in apostasy they add sin onto their scales and increase their chances of going to jahannam. By killling them you are increasing their chances of a good outcome at judgment, it is the right thing to sk and they should be thankful.
Cutting a hand off for stealing is definitely right. Even the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) prescribed this punishment.
Yes those things should be banned as they are degenerate and sinful
If they use their free will to disobey Allah (swt) then yes it is of course good to punish them.
>>55387098
>Allah HATES the wicked
dude what is wicked? it's debatable
and please stop it with the christian parralels. i'm not a religious person. no christian is. only people of the church, priests and such.
christians don't live their lives worshipping some mickey mouse in the sky. it's retarded. we only see christianity as our heritage. we don't follow anything of what is written in the bibile. it's just a book written by some jews, just like the tora or the koran.
>>55387180
serbs and bosnians are of the same ethnicity you dumbfuck
the only reason christian serbs killed bosinans and albanians is because they're muslims
just stfu romanian shitposter
>>55387253
>Go to the toilet "ALLAHU ACKBAR"
>Blow something up "ALLAHU ACKBAR"
>Child graduates from suicide bombing school "ALLAHU ACKBAR"
>Fart in a public place "ALLAHU ACKBAR"
>Family members get blown to pieces in an allied air strike "ALLAHU ACKBAR"
>A woman is showing a piece of skin "ALLAHU ACKBAR"
>Ejaculated after 3 years of sexual repression and desert heat "ALLAHU ACKBAR"
You see where I'm going with this.
>>55380725
1)ISIS is widely condemned in the Western World.
2) Muslims who will talk like that are integrated or are trying to integrate in Western societies and will thusly reject the principles of ISIS and the like.
3)They will do their best to convince you that Islam is peaceful and a good thing for Western society in fear to be rejected for their religion. And from that point on, any bullshit will do to suit their needs.
And so they ignore the elephant in the room: what is Islam? How do you define it? What are its rules, its standards, which sources can be used and which need to be ignored?
The truth is, you could literally interpret the Qur'an to say anything and its contrary. ISIS is no more representative of Islam then any group, but that very fact gives them as much credibility as any other muslim community.
>>55386982
There is literally not one person (apart from Jesus and Mohammad) or organisation that represents Christianity or Islam as a whole. That is not what's meant.
>>55382517
I'm getting mixed signals here friend.
>>55387105
>phtos of humans are haram
what the fuck ha ha ha ha.
so why do you retards have ids and passports? just hang yourself right now!
>there are hundred of thousand of islamic scholars over the globe
it so happens that a lot of muslims follow scholars like baghdadi
>>55387308
>Yes it is acceptable to kill for being an apostate, indeed, it is an act of mercy.
It's an act of mercy according to you, but not to the person being executed.
Therefore we have a conflict and disagreement. It is not permitted to kill non Muslims for apostasy. It's not legal here, so there's a conflict. Which means it's recognised as wrong. Therefore you have no credence or legitimacy as far as I or any non Muslim living in the West is concerned.
Go fuck a goat and die of goat AIDS. Cheers.
>>55387137
NATO isn't christian so his point still stands
has the orthodox pope ever issued a cease fire ?
>>55387380
So many times has our media tried to convey the idea of a 'good' Muslim, invariably when they get to asking about Shariah Law, the proper place of women or the punishment for insulting Islam they're dumbfounded to find out that no, there's no such thing as a moderate Muslim, only a reserved Muslim.
>>55387385
the pope represents christianity as a whole
all others are heretics and infidel
>>55387260
>their ethnicity is dictated by their religion.
so a somalian is the same ethnicity as me because he happens to be christian. get the fuck out.
>>55387281
al-Baghdadi and his merry troop of murderers raping, pillaging, and looting the Middle East are exactly the same actors as Mohammad and his merry troop of murderers.
Exactly.
>>55387480
>the pope represents christianity as a whole
lol piss off Cathloc.uck.
>>55387098
Allah is Satan, and delights in the wicked.
>>55387435
Just another stupid cumskin kuffar I see. Couldn't even address my full post lmao.
I bet you are some lil beta fuccboi manlet mad that his sister is dating a muslim, I'm right aren't I?
>>55387502
No you fucking retard.
Only in the context of Serbs.
Not in all contexts.
Take your strawman and fuck off you stupid gypsy.
>>55387348
>the only reason christian serbs killed bosinans and albanians is because they're muslims
not the same thing. they killed them for being muslim.
they did not kill them in the name of some sky fairy.
go back to africa if you don't like europe. it's that simple. just go back via boat as you came.
>>55387480
The pope is Catholic, numb nuts. He doesn't represent any Christians.
>>55387539
Allah (swt) is God actually
>>55387510
Pretty much.
The only thing you can say is that
>>55387457
That's because they don't understand a thing about Islam but want to avoid discrimination at all costs, even if it means liking boots and cocks here and there, but their actions have the exact opposite consequences. Our media are retarded, willingly ignorant or even malign.
>>55387542
Awww what happened to being peaceful and kind and moderate?
Seems to have dropped quickly after I completely destroyed your argument.
Now as I said, go fuck a goat and get goat AIDS like your brothers in Raqqa are doing.
There's a good lad.
>>55387575
back to india gypsy
>>55387559
Only in the context of Serbs
brainfart,jpeg
>>55387604
God is triune; Satan is one.
God has a Son; Satan has none.
God is Love; Satan is a liar, a trickster, a deceiver.
Yup, Allah is Satan.
>Huge majority SUPPORT Islamic State in Arab world, shock poll finds
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/580221/Islamic-State-support-Arab-world-poll-finds
>SUPPORT for Islamic State (ISIS) has soared above 80 PER CENT in a poll for the controversial Arabic news channel Al Jazeera.
>>55387639
you mistaken me with one of your cousins. brown and with a gorilla nose?
yeah, that is your kind. go back to africa. play with the monkeys.
>>55387542
You're behaving so haram it makes my sides hurt, you ignorant pest.
>>55387633
You didn't even touch on my argument you moron. How weird the world must be being as stupid and ignorant as you.
>>55387669
I like the ending on that.
Fight Barbarism.
Fight Islam.
>>55380725
It's not. Only a few Muslims actually support terrorism - many others, especially in the US, Germany, and Pakistan, are against terrorist practices such as suicide bombing.
(http://www.pewforum.org/2009/12/17/little-support-for-terrorism-among-muslim-americans/) (http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=97)
This does not, of course, mean that common Muslim practices are not extreme and should be acceptable in the modern west.
>>55387697
top kek gypsy
>>55387710
Holy shit you're too close to Romanians. Did gypsies dye your flag?
>>55387604
Nah Allah is Satan.
The armies of the East (Allah and Muslims) clash with the armies of the West (Jesus and Christians).
Allah is literally the anti Christ when the apocalypse happens, Jesus rises to fight the armies of the East.
Even Islam says this.
Allah is the devil anon, and he will be destroyed, it's already been predicted in revelations.
Deal with it. It's a battle you are destined to lose because demons and followers of Satan have no real power, have no real strength, have no courage, they have nothing but their love of death and this is why you shall lose. You fight to die when we fight to live.
Our armies will meet on the battlefield one day and all the Muslim devils will be vanquished.
It's unavoidable.
>>55387739
3/4
3/4 is not "a few".
