Ask a random liberal anything.
Will try to answer almost any questions because bored.
>>55379711
bump
>>55379711
>>55379831
anyway. what's your view on blacks have slightly less iq than the average white.
>>55379711
How's that obamacare working for you?
>>55379711
Can we riot now?
>>55379711
Are you a classic liberal or a liberal in the way that government handouts "Help" poor people?
as in "Liberal".
>>55379711
Do you live in a white, middle class neighbourhood? Can we be free if we choose to be fat slobs?
>>55379711
Are you an actual liberal or just a leftist fag?
>>55379874
I don't really have much of a opinion on it.
I don't think it is strong support of inherent racial inferiority though.
>>55379885
Personally quite well.
>>55379909
maybe
>>55380018
>>55380343
I would say to ask more questions to find out, but I think that would come off a bit dickish.
Lest just say that I am a individualist and enemy of the collectivist on most matters.
I however think that markets REQUIRE strong, well enforced regulations, and I am pro worker rights, as well as consumer rights.
>>55380384
what kind of data would you consider as a proof for racial inferiority?
>>55379711
>random liberal
What makes you so random?
>>55380287
>Do you live in a white, middle class neighbourhood?
no
>Can we be free if we choose to be fat slobs?
I am not sure what you mean exactly. I will simply say yes you are free to be fat slobs, but with that freedom comes responsibility and consequence. In this case, it would be shit heath and limited physical ability.
>>55380602
Except for individual rights, especially property rights, right?
If I say that all publicly participating liberals are animals, machines or insects based on their behavior, what percentage do you think this would _not_ apply to?
>>55379711
As a recemixed Latino folk, can I *fuck respectfully* you wife?
>>55380734
Honestly not sure, but it would have to be very strong, and even still I would still ask why that is, and view each person individually.
>>55380779
To much time on /b/
>>55380798
What are you going on about, individual rights and property rights are fundamental to personal liberty. Regulation is needed to protect personal liberty from the gamesmanship of collective moneyed interest.
>>55380808
I don't understand your question, can you rephrase?
>>55381052
I don't have a wife and if I did I would tell you to fuck off like anyone else.
>>55381118
So, you disregard statistics about IQ and violence ?
thoughts on keystone pipeline?
>>55379711
Why aren't you prepping your bull, you fucking kuck?
>>55379711
oh man I want you liberals to be the ones to light the fire, because you retards are the ones without weapons. We will destroy every single one of you. Do it, fucking please, I can't wait for the day liberals march and try to remove me from my home.
Most of us were liberal at one point, then we turned into adults.
and also no one wants to ask you anything besides if the biggest cock you ever had up you ass was a niggers.
why would i want to ask and idiot anything
go back to reddit
>>55381412
No for the most part, just some of the conclusions that some (which I suspect yourself of holding) come to based on the statistics I do disagree with.
>>55379711
Whats your favorite reddit meme friendo.
what makes you a liberal and what are your views on politics and society?
How do you feel about the barbarian rapist invasion of Europe?
>>55381540
It's true tbhfam
What's your opinion on classical liberalism/libertarianism?
>>55379711
Allready leftist dont need you
>>55380384
>I don't really have much of a opinion on it.
as a black person i think its quite an important issue though im not 100 percent sure how true this fact is since i only ever see it posted by people on 4chan.
if it is true i dont think it should be covered up. black peope worldwide definitely have trouble bulding stable societies and i wonder if sweeping certain hard truths under the rug is really the best way to better ourselves
however if it is true i dont know if we would be ready to swallow such a strong pill as that right now. i wonder what the reaction would be from everybody, how would we deal with it
>>55381419
I think it is a bad idea for everyone but the oil companies.
For everyone else it would be a net loss in a cost benefit analysis.
>>55381453
you mom beat me to it.
>>55381540
I see no questions so ignoring
>>55381690
>why would i want to ask and idiot anything
irony
Also, to get to your question, boredom and curiosity.
>>55381540
>All those police on our side that already hate dealing with hippy scum
>All those Bubba's and Good Ole' Boys that are crack shots from going to the shooting range every saturday night
>All those Army vets with experience in war
>Those ones with PTSD that we can unleash upon the liberal hordes as berzerker units
What do they have, niggers that hold their glock sideways as they shoot? Please for the love of God let it happen. It'd be a route.
>>55381917
Killing 85% of your people to force eugénism
You are 1billion anyway 4 billion by 2050
>>55381118
>What are you going on about, individual rights and property rights are fundamental to personal liberty. Regulation is needed to protect personal liberty from the gamesmanship of collective moneyed interest.
Only income isn't property to you, right?
MARK MY FUCKING WORDS WE WILL WPE YOU LIBERAL FUCKS OFF THE FACE OFF THIS EARTH BEFORE YOU FUCKING DESTROY THIS COUNTRY FUCK YOU LIBERAL WE WILL ROUND YOU UP AND HAVE YOU GASSED MARK MY FUCKING WORDS
>>55380602
So you are the typenof Liberal that fucks the economy.
>>55381732
I don't use reddit so I guess none that I am aware of.
Most memes are lame anyway to be honest.
>>55380602
(L)iberal = pro liberty
(l)iberal = leftist POS.
>>55379711
What could you possibly tell me that I would agree with or want to hear?
>>55382073
>>55379711
What is your opinion on Socialism?
Why did the president of that university get fired if he literally did nothing wrong? Last i checked University presidents were mostly figureheads and alot of the big changes are made by comittees.
>>55382194
That's a bad attitude to have mate. If you isolate yourself from any dissenting opinions you stagnate in an echo chamber, just like a tumblrette.
If nothing else it lets you reinforce your position by working out exactly why you disagree with them.
>>55381917
Lol just blame it on European Colonialism
I'm going to assume you support $15/hour min wage, because leftist views.
What effects do you think this has on the economy as a whole? Is it sustainable?
>>55382324
Its not possible these days to isolate my self from opinions I morally and personally disagree with and know are wrong. Nor will I change my mind so there is nothing to talk about with liberals.
>>55381750
I will admit to be lazy in making extreme generalizations because otherwise would require far too much time typing out a political essay or something.
What makes me liberal is I that personal individual liberty is good and authoritarianism and the collectivism that spawns it are bad.
My views on politics and society is that they could be much better.
>>55381752
Not a good idea and will cause some pretty big problems unless they truly integrate with their host country culturally on mass, which is extremely unlikely.
>>55381808
It is great and should be strived for for the most part. While I disagree with some of the economic tenets (mainly laissez faire), I do see their merit. I just think they are to idealistic compared to the reality or modern capitalism.
>>55382608
>Its not possible these days to isolate my self from opinions I morally and personally disagree with
It very much is. Much of the left spend their lives doing it.
>Nor will I change my mind
How do you know if you never seriously talk to them?
should the poor receive more benefits or less?
>>55381917
Platitude time
Just do your best in whatever you do and encourage your fellow man to do the same.
>>55382763
Personally I will just wait for the civil war I prefer death to being in a world of special snowflakes with no personal responsibility or morality. The nation is beginning to remind me of the movie escape from LA. Civil war when?
>>55382826
Pretty patronising don't you think? He seems capable enough.
Just because the average is low doesn't mean they are all like that,
If youre over the age of thirty and white theres zero reason to be liberal. Otherwise youre just immature
>>55382053
I don't even get what you are implying at this point.
Where did I say that?
>>55379711
> le random XD
>>55379711
Are you faggot?
>>55382967
You aren't actually telling us what you believe beyond "liberal" so do you blame him for having to make assumptions?
>>55382967
why do you like high taxes
>>55379711
How does it feel to see a political movement that ended child labor and legal discrimination become mired in solipsistic cultural authoritarianism?
>>55379711
Why is it "liberal arts colleges" teach critical thinking but liberals almost always subscribe to fallacy?
>>55379711
I cant wait for liberals to riot in a stand your ground state
>>55383292
>"liberal arts colleges" teach critical thinking but liberals almost always subscribe to fallacy?
Because they don't teach critical thinking. They teach critical theory and dissent gets you branded as a heretic.
>>55383342
Is there a political group for people like me who are old school egalitarian social liberals who are more interested in actual social improvement and working towards true meritocracy rather than hugbox politics for sheltered college students?
>>55382079
That is debatable, I will say that money is not the most important thing to me.
>>55382194
I don't really know you sooo.
The first amendment is really great.
>>55382207
A little socialism is good, and even nessasary in large modern developed nations. A too much socialism or full socialism is full retard and hurts almost everyone.
Examples of good socialism include public emergency respondents, infrastructure building and maintenance, public schooling options, certain utilities in some cases, and basic worker rights.
>>55382285
I don't even know what you are talking about.
>>55383493
Blue dog democrats?
I think they mostly got voted out after one term.
>>55383576
>public emergency respondents, infrastructure building and maintenance, public schooling options, certain utilities in some cases, and basic worker rights.
All of that was present well before Socialism was a twinkle in Marx's eye. In fact much of it was present in feudal societies.
What do you think about wealth redistribution specifically. You have said before that you think personal property rights are fundamental to personal liberty. The central core of socialism is disproportionately taxing the rich and somewhat rich (depriving them of their property) and giving it to the poor.
>>55383856
Taxation is not the antithesis to personal property rights.
You work and play here, you pay us a cut. The more you make, the bigger the cut, because we're progressive like that and the capitalistic system we have is inherently regressive.
>>55384028
Would you be against a flat tax (either a fixed amount for all or fixed percentage), and if so why?
>>55379711
Are Jews white?
>>55382531
I actually don't have much of a opinion on this issue as I have not, and probably will not crunch the numbers myself.
>>55382766
No one should starve to death when their are surplus resources that could feed them, and this goes for many other things like basic healthcare/emergency health, and to a limited extent shelter.
At the same time the way out of poverty is work and their should not be a "perverse incentive" to stay poor and dependent if they can help it.
So I guess what I am saying is I am not totally sure, but there is probably much room for improvement.
>>55382913
I don't think it is patronizing, they are words that I live by, and were inspired by MLK Jr. Himself.
>>55382962
I disagree, but you did not ask a question so I will leave it at that.
>>55383104
No more the the average OP
>>55384165
>Would you be against a flat tax (either a fixed amount for all or fixed percentage), and if so why?
Yes.
Because the capitalistic system we have is inherently regressive.
People start winning the markets, and they're no longer free. Without competition the system stagnates and there's no technological or managerial progress or innovation. They rest on their laurels and daddy's money.
And we've tested that out, it didn't work. The robber barons were a bunch of dicks and the unwashed masses suffered for it.
>>55384374
What does a flat tax have to do with stagnation? In fact I would suggest that the benefits system produces it because it removes the incentive for the poor to better themselves.
>>55384261
>I don't think it is patronizing, they are words that I live by, and were inspired by MLK Jr. Himself.
I say it because I find that liberals (possibly not including you) are the most racist people of all. They support such things as special benefits and programs for minorities, and top down programs to see that they receive equal presence in a variety of institutions (without merit other than being a minority) with the unsaid implication being that they are simply not good enough to get there on an equal playing field.
>>55379711
Why would you label yourself based on your beliefs?
>>55379711
How old are you?
Did you grow up in the burbs?
What is racial demographic of your current area?
>>55384479
Try number three.
A flat tax... in an inherently regressive system... leads to the money going to the top and monopolies forming..... Those that dominate the market don't really want the market to change.
Hence why we split up Ma Bell.
> In fact I would suggest that the "benefits system"(?) produces [stagnation] because it removes the incentive for the poor to better themselves.
Uh huh, because poor people do all that innovation. No, startups, business competitors, smart people leveraging new technologies, and hungry corporations looking for a new edge are the ones that innovate. Hey, I'm all for compassion and whatnot. But I don't expect any great inventors to go home from their McDonalds job and make the EM drive to work.
>>55383132
So I never said that, and he is just being a ass with his assumptions.
>>55383164
Define high taxes.
>>55383238
It feels bad man, really bad. Fuck "progressives".
>>55383292
Because college has change and liberal ideas of education are being replaced with a fucking progressive hug box that kills culture and the very founding ideas of a liberal education.
For fuck sake there was a English course I read about that dropped Shakespeare because people complained about too many dead white guys or some bullshit.
I am pretty pissed about the state of most universities and colleges in this day and age for a number of reasons, and this is one of them.
>>55383493
Like one you can vote for in the US and such, no, not really. You are sort of stuck between a authoritarian on the right, or a authoritarian on the left most elections.
>>55384804
>inherently regressive system
Well I guess anything you don't like is regressive when you characterise all of your policies as inherently "progressive".
>>55384804
>Uh huh, because poor people do all that innovation. No, startups, business competitors, smart people leveraging new technologies, and hungry corporations looking for a new edge are the ones that innovate. Hey, I'm all for compassion and whatnot. But I don't expect any great inventors to go home from their McDonalds job and make the EM drive to work.
Many great people in my country have come from the bottom, and there at least used to be a variety of methods by which they could. The greatest being grammar schools. With hard work and effort you could get into a good school and from there many doors opened.
>>55384906
>Well I guess anything you don't like is regressive
No man, none of that social- rights bullshit. It's a word. "Regressive" as in a tax imposed in such a manner that the tax rate decreases as the amount subject to taxation increases.
A progressive tax rate is one that PROGRESSIVELY gets bigger the more you make.
Jesus, don't get your panties in a twist.
>>55384877
>So I never said that, and he is just being a ass with his assumptions.
Before that point all we knew about you was you were a liberal, so he went at you as if you were a standard liberal.
>>55385065
>that the tax rate decreases as the amount subject to taxation increases.
But that's not what a flat tax is
>>55385052
>The greatest being grammar schools
Here "grammar school" just means 5-12 year olds. Is that like.... a literature teaching thing? for 20 year olds?
>>55379711
Why do you want to kill white people and destroy Western civilisation?
>>55384803
20
Yes
Realist (Around blacks never relax)
But I hate poor, dumb people the most.
>>55379711
Do you suck dicks?
>>55385184
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grammar_school
They are essentially an exclusive secondary school that offer scholarships for the best and brightest (from all walks of life).
>>55384627
On that note, I actually think that things like affirmative action when it comes to financial support to universities should only be biased on means in connection to merit and not on stuff like if they are a minority.
You can call me a classiest or whatever but I think that someone works hard and shows they have potential but need help because of limited means (like being born in the lower classes) they should be given a shot.
I care about equal opportunity, not forced equal results.
>>55384713
It simplifies discussion.
>>55384803
25
no
Diverse as fuck, like white people are technically a minority here, but just about every race is represented in good number here.
>>55385144
Let's try a 4th time!
The capitalistic system we have is inherently regressive. A progressive tax rate ( as opposed to a flat tax or a regressive tax rate) balances out the inherently regressive system.
I didn't call the flat tax regressive, but rather the economic system that it works in. But yeah, a lot of people call a flat tax "regressive". Nobody here or elsewhere really argues for an actual regressive tax system. That rate of change on the tax charts can go anywhere from negative numbers (regressive), zero (flat), to steep (progressive, like we had in the 50's to pay for the war). People call a flat tax regressive because it's more towards an actually regressive tax system. Yeah, annoying isn't it? The terminology always gets fucked up when you hit politics. Fucking spin-doctors. It really doesn't fucking help. Anyway.
The capitalistic system is inherently regressive because people with money have an easier time winning and making more money. Imagine you're playing Monopoly, the board game. Someone starts with $10,000, while 9 other players split $10,000 between them. The rich player will win nearly every time, despite "the poor group" having just as much money as him.
It's a rat race, and eventually one of the rats win it.
>>55385521
>You can call me a classiest or whatever but I think that someone works hard and shows they have potential but need help because of limited means (like being born in the lower classes) they should be given a shot.
Fair enough. You will find that there a lot of people such as yourself here. Cast out by other "liberals" as heretics.
>>55385216
I don't and I think western civilization is great.
>>55385328
no
>>55385521
Interesting. Have you or anyone you know been culturally enriched by the local basketball Americans? That was certainly a catalyst for my world view changing away from ultra-liberal during college.
Are you white/black/asian..etc?
>>55382686
>authoritarianism and the collectivism that spawns it are bad.
Well the world that is now really doesn't seem much more than 1984 with pixie powder on top.
>>55385937
>Have you or anyone you know been culturally enriched by the local basketball Americans?
Yeah but I see it more of a cuture-class thing rather then a race thing.
Living in poor and lower class neighborhoods you do see and hear about that kind of thing all the time.
>Are you white/black/asian..etc?
Mixed race, part black, but don't know full racial make up because both parents are mixed and my mom did not know here parents and my dad never talks about his fathers racial make up.
>>55380343
confirming: leftist faggotry at work
>>55382913
you're being obtuse. he's colouring within the lines.
Soooooo
No new questions?
Because I am still here
>>55388965
Where do you stand on the new starbucks cups issue?
>>55390239
lol
I don't give a shit.
But the dumbasses calling this a part of a "war on Christmas" is laughably retarded.
>>55379711
"Peaceful" protest pussies from OWS is exactly why I am a Conservative.
That shit was a living nightmare I tell you.
>>55388965
do you inherently think of conservatives as "stupid"?
>>55390813
No
I don't agree with them, and some are quite stupid, but most are just following their rational self interest for ether themselves or their group.
>>55390675
seem like them killing christmas would hurt business
we stopped eating at starbucks after they stopped serving heterosexuals
