Not even the Ivy League can escape cultural Marxist degeneracy
>>55375088
That picture ruined my day.
>>55375088
The whole point of Ivy schools is to get connections to the rich and powerful. Their education isn't significantly better than any well ranked public uni.
>>55375088
>yfw by virtue of having an "Ivy League Degree" those kids will instantly land more jobs than you
I can't wait for the Ivys to crumble
>>55375088
>Not even the Ivy League
Who do you think was the first to revel is despicable opulence and degeneracy?
>>55375088
>affirmative action: it just werks
>>55375088
Decline? I see such rich vibrancy. This the future, God, just get with 2015 already!
>>55375088
Bunch of dark skinned chubby safe spacers.
>>55375088
Yale is the birthplace of the CIA and I imagine they'll have something to say about this if Skull and Bones doesn't get to it first
Since when did Yale become so degenerate?
Is it still wise to study in the US?
Coming from a chink who wishes to study medicine
>>55375088
Not knowing what cultural marxism is. It's something you can study at Yale, though you wouldn't know because you're not that good with books, right?
Remember when ubisoft used to make God tier Tom Clancey games?
>>55375088
>tfw when my Great grandfather was class of 1917
>>55375466
The US does reverse affirmative action against chinks because rich white people don't want their kids to have to compete with Asians. So no, the US isn't a good place for Asians to get an education anymore
>>55375466
professional school is unaffected, it's mostly liberal arts undergrads
>>55375466
it's fine just don't go to a kek school
>>55375572
>The 6 guys in the back and the ones not pictured because they're actually working write all the code
>>55375590
the effect is minuscule, asians effectively have the same rate of medical school acceptance as white people, maybe a fraction of a percent lower
regardless, he's an international student, there's no such thing as affirmative action for international students, look at any science graduate program at a public university
>>55375088
>tfw read about how college was for Feynman or even how it was for physicists or engineers in the 80s
>tfw even the science kids at my school were fucking braindead and only thought about money or politics or "look at me I'm funny"
>tfw there wasn't a single frat guy I saw who knew why he was in an academic institution
>tfw only friends I made were 50+ year old professors who still had genuine thoughts about information and how things work
Nothing about "wrong generation" shit, it's just so much more inconvenient to find circles of self respecting and disciplined people now since people take so long to grow out of shit like shortsighted greed and identity crises.
>>55375253
Ivy educated here. The big differences are:
- resources, which translates into really good libraries, which means that you can do thorough research without hitting dead ends = more fresh, new ideas.
- small class sizes and getting to know famous and interesting professors quite well (and vice versa). Leads to high motivation in education.
- highly competitive entry, which means that a lot of talented students go there, which means a massive amount of peer-led learning.
- sometimes a scene of rich and well-networked people, though this only applies to a small degree and much less than in the past. This is what's most distasteful. Many people in these institutions are working to diminish this old-boys' network.
I also agree that you can get a great education at good state institutions, like the University of Virginia, or the University of Michigan, or Rutgers University, or the University of California Berkeley, just to name some of the most prominent.
>>55375254
Ivy League universities won't crumble because they have ridiculously large endowments that they can run off for many years. They have a remarkable level of self-sufficiency.
>>55375572
That picture is misleading.
The top is the ASSCREED lead team, bottom is shitty mobile tier and support team.
>>55375466
Asians and whites get rekt by the admissions process in the USA.
If you're not doing a US undergrad bachelors, there's no point in trying for US med school either.
Berenstain universe sucks ass
I want to go back
>>55375743
There really needs to be a mass movement against these schools.
>>55375572
Thanks Quebec (aka the smelly armpit of North America)
>>55375088
The group on top looks like a bunch of boring uptight White guys.
The group on bottom is diverse and looks fun to hang out with and like a group that can change the world with new ideas.
I don't see the issue.
Are you aware of the current year?
From Yale to Fale... Am I right, fellers?
>>55375944
Why so? I'm genuinely interested...
>>55375254
Stfu u nigger
>>55376041
I know you're being sarcastic, but that kind of talk makes me want to kick your teeth in.
>>55375088
What the fuck are you talking about? The "Ivy League" PIONEERED cultural Marxist degeneracy in this nation in every form. Yale and Princeton were able to sort of sneak under the radar for a bit, but that's been long since over.
>>55375088
As a law student let me tell you that affirmative action ruins the career prospects of young white straight able bodied men. If you dont fall within a minority quota you aint getting a job.
AA is probably the most racist thing there is. Everywhere I apply to you get this "WE ARE AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER" which literally translates into "do not apply if you are an average European".
Feels bad...
Ivy league invented marxist degeneracy desu
>>55375595
that's not true. Any t-20 LS is the same fucking shit. If you're a White male, you need a 170 LSAT to even be competitive. I was in with niggers who had scored 153s. The MEDIAN is 155.
>>55375743
>- resources, which translates into really good libraries, which means that you can do thorough research without hitting dead ends = more fresh, new ideas.
>- small class sizes and getting to know famous and interesting professors quite well (and vice versa). Leads to high motivation in education.
Shame that's squandered on dindus like these who bitch and whine, are ungrateful for the rare opportunity, and get little use from the above anyway due to low IQ.
>>55375743
>- highly competitive entry, which means that a lot of talented students go there, which means a massive amount of peer-led learning.
Not if you're a dindu SJW. Affirmative Action ensures that pukes like the bitch at the protest waltz right in, and take slots from some super qualified white or Asian kid who would have actually benefits from the resources provided them, instead of doing an SJW minute of hate.
Oh, and don't forget about the grade inflation that ensures that everyone is a winner in the Ivy League. Can't have legacy Joe Prescott Bush IV fail, now can we? The dindu AA admits and neanderthal legacies would seriously push down that A average for all students at Yale if the numbers weren't cooked.
>>55375088
>http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2015/11/10/harvard-law-students-call-for-removal-seal/L2hLetyGIRqCr2DkYtmSWP/story.html?p1=feature_stack_1_hp
>Right now, the Harvard law school seal features three bushels of wheat on a shield. But the design is also the coat of arms for the family of Isaac Royall Jr., a slaveholder whose estate helped found the school.
>A group of current students hope to change that. They’ve named their movement “Royall Must Fall,” and have organized to persuade the school that it should replace what they call a blatant symbol of the slaveholding era.
>>55375088
The guys in the top picture is the most important reason why the lower picture looks like it does.. Wtf /pol/, how can you be dis ignora of the spread of gultural marxism in the western world?
>>55376286
You're a very ignorant person. Cultural marxism developed on the fringes of the British education system in adult education institutions and red-brick universities. Read up on the Birmingham Center for Cultural Studies and the legacies of Raymond Williams and Richard Hoggart. They were on the fringes of academia because they weren't conventional scholars and they came from working-class backgrounds. The Ivy League universities were places of great resistance to this material in the culture wars.
>>55376396
>destroy hundreds of years of history, tradition and pride because of muh feels
SJWs in a nutshell.
Harvar alumni rolling in their graves and offices.
Question /pol/
Why do you think Marxism keeps coming up all the time around the world? Why does it not go away for good?
>>55375683
They should have acceptance rates much higher than whites based on test scores though. They are getting fucked by dindus worse than anyone else.
>>55376128
Because Ivy league schools cause a significant deal of cultural harm and are generally seen as untouchable. So many social ills we've seen recently have either began or have been greatly accelerated by these universities. It's time for the general public to hold them accountable.
>>55376391
Actually, the libraries are one place the resources really aren't squandered. The collections at Yale, for instance, are astonishingly good. If you're a serious researcher trying to find obscure material, you'll be thankful that libraries like this exist, whether you're at Yale or not. The Beinecke Rare Book Library is an amazing resource for the sake of humanity in general.
I'm afraid you're a bit deluded about affirmative action and university entry. Though grade inflation is a problem (and is across the US in general).
>>55375375
Shoo shoo slimey limey
>>55376736
Can you give some examples of the social ills that have begun at or been accelerated by these universities?
My main objection is that they're too exceptional and that the quality of education they offer isn't available to most people (who meet a competitive qualification standard). If the US stopped spending so much money on aircraft carriers and pointless nuclear weapons, and stopped starting retarded wards all over the world, then maybe this would be possible.
>>55375466
Go to JHU, faggot. Lots of Asians here and most STEM students just ignore the degeneracy
>>55375088
>wasting money on Jewniversity when you can just google whatever the fuck you need to know
Maximum pleb.
>>55375743
I don't know if you're full of shit, retarded, or maybe went to Cornell? The idea of "real good libraries" is no longer valid due to the internet. Any journal is accessible anywhere, and in the rare event you can't find a book, inter-library loan would take a few days.
Small class size? Also horseshit. Even the sections are 18-20 in popular sections.
As far as "peer-to peer" learning, the only "study groups" are for Jews, chinks, Indians,fags, and some wealthy WASP legacy types, who tend not to do shit anyway.
-Large endowments? Yes, that is indeed true. So they can import more and more niggers who don't need to pay a dime and fuck any White kids who actually applies himself.
BTW, I'm "Ivy League" as well, undergrad and post-grad. If you feel the need to introduce yourself that way, chances are you haven't done much with your life since. Ivy league grads are a dime a dozen. If your be-all, end all is to work for Goldman-Sachs and make 800k a year (if you play your cards right and pay your dues), end up miserable with a selfish whore wife and spoiled prick kids and you bust your ass for 12-15 hours days, 6 days a week and spend every waking moment wishing you were dead, then yes. Ivy league all the way.
>>55375088
>2015
>thinking universities were anything other than echo chambers for arrogant elitists
>>55375088
>Cultural Marxist
Q: When will retards stop using these two in one sentence?
A: When they start thinking for themselves and start using their own brains.
>>55375743
>Many people in these institutions are working to diminish this old-boys' network.
By all mean! Make room for even more Jews (25% wasn't enough), Indians, chinks, and niggers. "Old boys club" is code word for "Whitey."
>>55376041
The day satire becomes reality and trolls continue to troll.
>>55376549
the Frankfurt school and Franz Boaz set up shop at Columbia in the 20s and began pumping it out. Don't fucking tell me about things I've spent my miserable life studying pleb.
>>55376888
Trips comfirm
>>55376778
are all the shitskins in ivy leagues even smart? you cannot deny they are there to meet some kind of diversity quota but are they any more than humanities majors? i hear most people in ivy leagues are post-grads
>>55376888
/thread
>>55376647
Because the powerful people of the world push Cultural Marxism into major universities and mainstream media outlets and popular books and magazines. They are literally trying to surround us in a world of Marxism and we know already which group of people want to push Marxism the most.
>>55376396
what they gonna replace it with MLK?
hahahahahaha oh how ivy league has fallen
>>55376977
Come up with a better term for PC culture, the push for mass immigration and the subversion of European and US culture and I'll think about it.
>Cultural Marxism and Cultural Studies
https://pages.gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/kellner/essays/culturalmarxism.pdf
>>55376977
The term is stupid and should be retired for some time. If the alt-right ever gained enough leverage to force its legitimacy, it should only to spite leftists.
>>55376863
The advancement of feminism and anti-raciat thought.
>>55377222
*racist
>>55376888
He's right, if people were motivated enough, they could learn anything they want online without having to pay someone to hold their hand through it.
>>55376921
keklumbia engineering Masters student here, youre completely right. I honestly regret not just going to state university and having no debt, since tech companies barely care about the school I went to anyway. I would have learned much more at a pure tech school with a built-in coop program
>>55376647
because liberals
liberals feel the need that society needs to change and someone somewhere is being oppressed. they dont even care what they change society into as long as they get to say "i made a difference" they just jerk off to that forever
>>55375257
underrated post
>>55377160
Why does it work though? Powerful people push a lot of things. They don't get people to buy into whatever they push.
>>55377222
Are you saying that cultural marxism is not a phenomenon or you just take issue with the term?
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism
>>55377296
Aren't half of humans liberal? So forever half of people will be this way? There is no changing it then right?
>>55375088
Purely due to affirmative action letting niggers in.
They aren't even full niggers though,they are just niggardly enough to have some of white intelligence and still qualify as nigger for affirmative action.
>>55376549
Well, your definition of what "Cultural Marxism" is is refreshing to see on /pol/ because it is actually a more useful and accurate one than the one that mostly floats around these boards, which conflates the Frankfurt School and Gramsci and various pupils of one particular Frankfurt School writer, Marcuse.
I can imagine having a conversation about Cultural Marxism that actually GOES somewhere if we define it in this more precise and accurate way.
Unfortunately, though, you are wrong in your basic contention that THIS "Cultural Marxism" developed outside elite universities. Williams may have been a "grammar school boy" but he went to Cambridge, just like his ideological opposite numbers did.
That is really the sad and disgusting thing about the whole "politics of culture" debate in the UK context at least. It's all basically just theatre, because the media "lefties" and the "righties" all roomed together at either Oxford or Cambridge. Whether they ended up becoming a highly-paid, pampered demagogue for the right or a highly-paid pampered demagogue for the left seems to have just depended on whose stall they first stumbled on at the Balliol College Oxford Freshers Fair.
The "theatrical" element becomes out-and-out method-acting in some cases. Even a little leftie prick like this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEb07WnU-gE
whom one would assume from the comic regional accent and general Dickensian air of undernourishment to have been an unemployed miner's son from some soot-stained Northern shithole is in fact an upper-middle class kid educated, of course, at Oxford, right alongside the sons of Tory MPs he makes a lucrative living calling seven shades of shit.
>>55377305
I've noticed a lot of stupid people in powerful/important positions lately whether it be politics/activism or journalism or directing.. The stupid people are more able to do anything for money.
>>55377408
well liberalism is like a spectrum
you have the #blacklivesmatter and the unionist and shit
>>55376313
Affirmative Action is an acknowledgment that shitskin is of lower intelligence.
>>55377361
"Cultural Marxism" is about as much a real phenomenon as Rationalwiki is a trustworthy source.
It appears to be a term that is used by stormbabbies to sling together into a formless, indistinct heap the writings of authors who had absolutely no contact or connection with one another - Adorno, Foucault, Gramsci - not one single line of which anyone who uses the term "Cultural Marxism" has ever read.
>>55377510
I don't think you can separate the Frankfurt school from the term. The Frankfurt school was founded with the idea of preparing Europe for socialism. For this Europe had to change. The people who attended the Frankfurt school engineered this change wherever they could.
>>55376921
Not true. I work in an earlier field and not a lot of my material is digitized. If you work with old manuscripts or earlier books, you also need to be able to examine the material objects themselves. Google books hasn't really succeeded for making old scholarship and literary works consistently available. And libraries hold a lot of non-book objects too. Libraries are still necessary and books as material objects are still really important. Read Peter Stallybrass or Adrian Johns on these questions.
Class sizes: not every Ivy League university class is tiny, but if you do the averages, they come out way ahead of mid-range state schools. They care about this stuff because it feeds the Princeton Review's rankings.
I have a funny feeling there's a chance we might have even crossed paths. What's your discipline?
>>55376991
I'm in favor of egalitarian education.
>>55377055
The Frankfurt School is usually put with a larger story of continental marxism, along with Kojeve in Paris, then Althusser and his students, and Gramsci in Italy. What's usually referred to as "cultural marxism" in intellectual history is the explicit reaction against Soviet Marxism that occurred after the atrocities of 1953 in Berlin, 1956 in Hungary, and 1968 in Prague. When this was combined with the rediscovery of Marx's Economic and Philosophical Manuscripts in 1927, and then the background influence of the Frankfurt School, Critical Theory, the neo-Kantians, French left phenomenology, and the reconsideration of the study of "culture," .... that's when you get cultural marxism!!
>>55376921
>The idea of "real good libraries" is no longer valid due to the internet
Maybe he graduated in the 80s/90s?
>>55377084
Honestly, it's a mixed bag, in my experience. Some minorities at Ivy League institutions are incredible smart and more motivated than most to take advantage of their opportunities; some are not quite as sharp as they could be and were aided by affirmative action. The overall balance, though, is that educational standards are very similar but study bodies are much more diverse, and this leads to a greater range of learning for everyone.
>>55377688
Did you read the article? How about this?
>Cultural Marxism and Cultural Studies
https://pages.gseis.ucla.edu/faculty/kellner/essays/culturalmarxism.pdf
The author of the latter is as far from a stormbaby as you can get. Try harder.
>>55377361
It mostly has to do with the term. Other than being contradictory, it doesn't acturately describe phenomena (rise of contemporary identity politics, egalitarianism, etc.) it claims to encompass.
I think they have more to do with neoliberalism and and consumerism than Adorno or Marx. It really is a red herring.
>>55377736
You do not have the first idea what you are talking about. You have never read a word of anything written by any Frankfurt School writer and you would not be able to comprehend the most definitive of their writings - which were written in the 1940s, 50s and 60s, long after their key members had given up any expectation of seeing socialism triumph in Europe - even if you made the attempt.
>>55377800
marxist shill btfo.
>>55377838
It does though. At it's most basic, it was decided that Socialism wouldn't work on Europe so Europe had to be changed to fit it.
>I think they have more to do with neoliberalism and and consumerism than Adorno or Marx. It really is a red herring.
Possibly. 'they' want to erase class and enforce quality. They've decided to make everyone into the 'consumer' class, as the true working class is too comfortable in the west to ever revolution. This worldwide consumer class will be ruled over, just as in all socialism ever, by a self appointed intellectual elite.
>>55377874
>b...but you haven't read x!!!
we know what their goals are. enough to oppose them.
>>55377510
Thanks for a considered and informed response. You're right that Williams was at Cambridge, but he was always marginalized in the English department there, in part because he was working-class Welsh and in part because he was a Leavisite early on, and Leavis was disliked by his colleagues for his advocacy of D.H Lawrence, his nonconformist background, and his weird visionary approach to criticism as "scrutiny." Fred Inglis's biography of Williams is helpful on this stuff (though it's not a great book). Francis Mulhern on The Moment of Scrunity of really nice too.
As I see it, cultural marxism was an adult education and red-brick university phenomenon in the 50s. In the 60s it took off in student culture (especially around the 68 movement) and it flourished in a few key journals (like New Left Review). It's only in the 70s that key figures started getting prominent, prestigious university positions (with the exception of Williams, who was earlier). And then we get the institutionalization of Cultural Studied in the 80s, and the advocates of this eventually win the Culture Wars and the canon of humanities study gets massive expanded. It's interesting to hear you say that you felt it was all very cozy and clubbish.
>>55375088
>implying white trustfund babby fraternity culture hasn't been firmly lodged in the ivy league's ass for decades
kek.
>>55377874
They changed their tactics. Their entire ethos and founding was about Marxism.
>>55378020
*Cultural Studies. [damn typos]
You reap what you sow
>>55377800
cultural marxism, as you guys use it, is the epitome of pseudointellectual faggotry that morons like you latch onto without actually understanding what it means
https://theconversation.com/cultural-marxism-and-our-current-culture-wars-part-2-45562
>>55377800
I haven't even bothered to follow your link but if it's Douglas Kellner, yes, I know him vaguely from my student days. Pretty standard academic hack with nothing particularly new or interesting to say. I don't doubt that someone like that is lazy and intellectually "descriptivist" enough to accept the use of a term like "Cultural Marxism", since it is certainly true that certain Marxists or thinkers emerging from Marxism, like Gramsci or Adorno, placed more emphasis on "culture" than Marx or Engels did.
But a dry academic bore and dullard like Kellner would certainly never use the term "Cultural Marxism" in anything like the way it is used on /pol/ - i.e. as a term for some sort of coordinated doctrinaire programme of subversion orchestrated and staffed by "da Jooz".
In that usage, the term is idiotic.
In Kellner's usage, it's just shallow and lazy.
The only way to understand where Adorno or Gramsci or Foucault stood is to read Adorno and Gramsci and Foucault.
And no one here ever has or ever will do that, so please just shut up about "Cultural Marxism"
>>55377874
Hey, fuckface. I did my undergraduate thesis on the genealogy of ideas in post-WW1 Europe. I established the citation indices that Gramsci, Adorno, Marcuse, etc. all had in common. They were reading and writing about the same things, they knew of each others' works and they were ALL Marxists.
Cultural Marxism and the application of Marxist criticism to the humanities are real things--ongoing things--that were/are meant to destroy the West.
http://toiletnationusa.com/2013/02/26/tim-wise-frankfurt-school-marxist/
>>55378245
Agreed on both Kellner and the misleading popular appropriation of the label "cultural marxism." It refers to something quite exact -- a mode of marxism that developed based on an explicit rethinking of the possibilities of the category of "culture" when considered as "productive" and not merely part of a "cultural superstructure." In other words, it's reading early Marx back into late Marx. And then people used this as a way of expanding what came within the purview of humanities and social science inquiry. Definitely the way to understand this is to read the original texts and not just use a meaningless, hollowed-out shell of a phrase in order to denigrate "shit you don't like."
>>55375466
>Singaporean
>chink
>medicine
That's probably the most cliched thing ever. That being said, good luck competing with the kids from RI, assuming you aren't one of them.
>>55375088
How do nigs with this level of intelligence get into Yale? You expect the spergniggers to be in the Ivy League colleges.
>>55376128
Probably because they favor people whos parents have Ivy background or graduated from expensive private schools. I dont see how thats a good system. We also have private universities in Germany, but to a lesser extend.
I personally think that the biggest problem are you law schools. If someone fails at graduating from a t14 law school his degrees borders worthlessness. The worst part is that these schools arent even providing a great education, as can be observed in international moot courts. American elite universities hardly ever win and thats even though having the ridiculous advantage of the court being held in English, which cripples most Europeans/Asians because of being forced to argue in a foreign language.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awards_in_the_Willem_C._Vis_International_Commercial_Arbitration_Moot#Hall_of_Fame:_Award-Winning_Teams_.281994-2011.29
>>55375253
>salty state school pleb detected
I was admitted to Cornell and Yale, went to MIT, doing my PhD at a state school, and let me tell you the big difference
>LABS AND R&D
We have an $11 billion dollar endowment and pour billions into top labs in almost every field. Literally 95% of all the undergrads that go to MIT work at some point as an assistant researcher in a lab, and that experience is invaluable to anyone going into R&D in industry or graduate school. No state school I've seen has nearly that undergraduate participation level in research.
>>55378724
CV of extracurricular SJW activism, underprivileged background, etc. all score points with leftist admissions committees and make them auto admits. Double digit IQ is irrelevant.
Reminder that as the West burns and collapses, there's a group that's quite eagerly watching.
And thanks to "islamophobia", they're going to win.
I guess we can have the consolation of seeing these SJW's decapitated on Yale's quad.
>>55378992
With that face, she belongs under a full body Burqa.
>>55377222
I don't think you can make a good argument that feminism advanced especially through the advocacy of Ivy League schools. None of the key figures in second-wave feminism (Simone de Beauvoir, Kate Millett, Betty Friedan, Germaine Greer, Linda Nochlin, etc.) were academics at Ivy League unviersities. And that's because these universities were mostly more conservative than the cultural climate of the times.
>>55378894
Nice examples. True in my observation too. Good research facilities make for better education.
>>55377221
>A historically accurate description of the Frankfurt School
>On /pol/
Nah that's not possible.
Incidentally Frankfurt School and Cultural Marxism are very different things. The former actually existed whereas the latter exists primarily as a pejorative term invented by the far-right.
An Ivy League education is about connections, networking, and name recognition, not necessarily the quality of the education (though that is usually good too).
I went to an Ivy League school and submatriculated. My advisor landed me a life-changing internship that I was able to secure purely through the school's connection to the organization. I built great connections there and then the next summer was able to intern again at a similar organization through my advisor again. This made securing my first job actually super easy because of the connections I built, all stemming from the university's prestige.
>>55377361
>Are you saying that cultural marxism is not a phenomenon or you just take issue with the term?
Both.
Frankfurt School wasn't "Cultural Marxism" it was critical theory and Marxist revisionism (although as you jpeg from the earlier post shows, they began life as quite orthodox marxists)
I'm a socialist and Marxist of many years standing and I don't know of anyone who self-identifies as a cultural marxist on the left. It's a term I only hear from the far-right, where it gets used interchangably with privilege theory, intersectionality, critical theory, cultural studies etc etc to suit whichever argument they happen to be making.
>>55377510
>Well, your definition of what "Cultural Marxism" is is refreshing to see on /pol/ because it is actually a more useful and accurate one than the one that mostly floats around these boards, which conflates the Frankfurt School and Gramsci and various pupils of one particular Frankfurt School writer, Marcuse.
They do this all the time. The number of times I've heard Gramsci lumped with these guys it's hilarious how they haven't even bothered to do basic research on it.
And btw from what little we know of the topic most members of the Frankfurt School were pretty homophobic and racist....
When I was a kid I always used to fantasize about going to Yale because a friends dad did. He talked so much about the school how great it was.
I never got to go there. These people did though.
>>55377736
>The Frankfurt school was founded with the idea of preparing Europe for socialism.
EVERY socialist organisation in Europe is trying to prepare Europe for socialism!
>>55377874
This guy is right
>>55375572
>ubisoft wasn't shit in 2007
>Remember when ubisoft made like four good Tom Clancey games, and fucked up all of the sequels?
FTFY, millenialfag.
>>55379124
Hey, I got a lot going for me if ISIS takes over.
>white
>CS major
>multilingual
>know some Arabic as well as a a few prayers and nasheeds, could pass as Muslim
I could be a valuable asset to them.
>>55378438
>Cultural Marxism and the application of Marxist criticism to the humanities are real things--ongoing things--that were/are meant to destroy the West.
Can you back this assertion up using only texts and writings from the Frankfurt School?
Cos I've read fuckign loads of Marcuse et al, I never managed to find this big conspiracy to destory the West, where should I be looking?
>>55375088
>escape cultural Marxist degeneracy
Nigga, it's the bastion of Marxist degeneracy
>>55378966
So you are literally dumbing down your system for racial equality? Thats ridiculous as those same stupid niggers are your future labor force that drives your country's economy, well they arent stupid seeing as how they got into Yale but they are bias to an insane degree.
>>55379221
Cultural marxism is mostly a term used by intellectual historians to label and interpret some prior formations. But plenty of people who think of themselves as part of a "left culturalist" tradition would be reasonably happy with identifying with the term. Unfortunately, the uninformed popular appropriation on /pol/ and stormfront muddies the waters.
>>55375257
It's like OP hasn't even read 2083 — A European Declaration of Independence
>>55375088
holy shit urkel gained a shitload of weight
>>55375088
It seems a lot worse at Ivy League than at normal ass public universities.
My friend at Harvard has it way harder than I do at a decent state school.
>>55379620
Harvard has to be among the worst. It's really bad here.
>>55375088
Back in 1904 there were quotas for kikes in American universities. Kikes are toxic for society they ruin everything
>Affirmative Action brigs niggers and crazy womyn to higher colleges
>niggers and crazy womyn are still found in community college
is there any place above average american can go and receive an education?
Stupid, ungrateful mulatto bitch slide right into Yale and then bitches about being "unsafe" while living in a dorm more like a five star hotel:
>safe, heated buildings with two Steinway grand pianos, an indoor basketball court, a courtyard with hammocks and picnic tables, a computer lab, a dance studio, a gym, a movie theater, a film-editing lab, billiard tables, an art gallery, and four music practice rooms.
The black Marie Antoinette.
The privilege of this bitch is just stunning, while anyone else would thank god to be where she is.
>>55379797
Serious STEM programs. The engineering at Harvard and Yale is still full of very smart people who don't care about this shit.
>>55379535
>Cultural marxism is mostly a term used by intellectual historians
By who? It's mainly used as a catch-all term to describe "any sort of social progress since the 1950's I feel threatened by" in my experience.
>>55379535
>But plenty of people who think of themselves as part of a "left culturalist" tradition would be reasonably happy with identifying with the term.
Then why is it after a couple of decades of committed left and anti-racist activism I've never heard anyone describe themselves as a cultural marxst?
What people are actually complaining about here is nothing to do with Marxism, cultural or otherwise, but simply bog-standard American college campus liberal identity politics.
By contrast, /pol/ has it's own form of reactionary race-based identity politics to oppose it, in true dialectical fashion.
>>55375088
Funny picture and I do get the point. With all the sjw cunts crying over holloween.
Unfortunantly this picture is taken out of context. I'm sure there are nice class photos of yale students from recent years.
>>55379620
>My friend at Harvard has it way harder than I do at a decent state school.
>>55379659
>Harvard has to be among the worst. It's really bad here.
Is Harvard the one that accepted that Muslim kid who "made a clock" to desensitize people to real bombs?
>>55379287
>And btw from what little we know of the topic most members of the Frankfurt School were pretty homophobic and racist....
It does amaze men that people here haven't realized this. I've heard Adorno referred to as racist, classicist, and Eurocentric before; the man was even harassed by the 60s equivalent of these social justice people, and plenty of leftists still have a grudge with him over that jazz essay.
>>55379797
Trade school is your best bet to find skills, but as for colleges/unis, the femishits and niggers on AA will be everywhere. You can try getting into programs with mostly men like engineering where girls usually want and education as well and won't spew idiotic sjw buzzwords. It may be hard to find classes though since engineering is impacted at most schools that offer hogher level engineering as the base of their uni, like polytechnic schools. And even the the sjws will complain that there aren't enough womyn or nigs in stem even though they never applied for stem based classes.
>>55380054
>I've heard Adorno referred to as racist, classicist, and Eurocentric before; the man was even harassed by the 60s equivalent of these social justice people, and plenty of leftists still have a grudge with him over that jazz essay
It's almost as if they haven't read anything by Adorno and have based their knowledge exclusively upon unsourced /pol/ jpegs and memes.
heaven forfend anyone actually read a book.
Only Frankfurt School worth reading in my opinion is Walter Benjamin and that barely even qualifies. Adorno is shit the whole concept of dialectic of enlightenment is deeply flawed imo.
>>55379944
It was in wide use through the 1980s and 1990s. It was used very specifically to refer to a subcategory of thought within marxist theory.
Here's a quick bibliography of relevant material:
- Anderson, Perry, Considerations on Western Marxism (London: New Left Books, 1976).
- Blackburn, Robin, ‘Raymond Williams and the Politics of the New Left’, New Left Review 168 (March/April 1988), pp. 12–22.
- Chun, Lin, The British New Left (Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press, 1993).
- Cranston, M. (ed.), The New Left: Six Critical Essays (New York: Library Press, 1970).
- Dworkin, Dennis, Cultural Marxism in Postwar Britain: History, the New Left, and the Origins of Cultural Studies (Durham and London: Duke University Press, 1997).
- Inglis, Ken, Radical Earnestness: English Social Theory 1880–1980 (Oxford: Martin Robertson, 1982), esp. ch. 8, ‘Culture and Politics: Richard Hoggart, the New Left Review and Raymond Williams’.
- Katsiaficas, G., The Imagination of the New Left: A Global Analysis of 1968 (Boston: South End Press, 1987).
- Ogelsby, C. (ed.), The New Left Reader (New York: Grove Press, 1969).
- Williams, Raymond, ‘The British Left’, New Left Review 30 (1965).
- Young, Nigel, An Infantile Disorder? The Crisis and Decline of the New Left (London and Henley: Routledge and Kegan Paul, 1977).
>>55379944
And I don't think it's ever been used in activist circles so much. It's a bit like "Western marxism." It's an academic, university-based phenomenon and not a social movement. It was stronger in Britain, France, and Australia than in North America anyway (since the left is pretty underdeveloped in the US especially).
And yes, the term has been adopted to label a whole new set of issues, but in my view this is just creating confusion and obfuscation.
>>55379986
MIT gave him a tour, but I doubt they would ever accept him.
>>55379961
Even without the story!front edits, that may be the worst poem Kipling ever wrote, and it's not really appropriate for your cause when you consider the context in which it was written
>>55379986
That was MIT (I don't think they were actually offering him unqualified admission, though), which is a very, very good school.
>>55375088
>tfw there are already two chinks in ops 1904 image
>>55380574
They're smart though.
>>55375683
I made a graph about this. Would post it but I'm on my phone now. Asians are much lower. They do a little better so their rates even out.
>>55380574
Do they look like sjws or niggers? Or educted men who earned an education instead of whining for one?
>>55380291
For someone posting from the US, you seem to be curiously fixated on the BRITISH Left as representative of "Cultural Marxism", whereas in fact Britain was as culturally isolated from the European continent in this respect as in every other.
In Paris and Berlin May 68 brought the university system, large parts of the cities, and - in France's case - even industry to a halt. In the UK the "revolution" was confined to a few student occupations at Essex University and the LSE.
Anderson and Blackburn, founders and eminences grises of the New Left Review, were exceptions to some extent, I suppose : upper-middle, Oxford-educated homosexuals who, as was and is typical of their class, spent as much time in Paris or Berlin or New York as they did in London or Oxford and were, consequently, familiar with the ideas of people like Althusser and the Frankfurt School. But the British radical left has, in its mainstream, barely been "cultural" at all.
>>55380291
I've read of a few these btw and can't recall too much about "cultural marxism" appearing in it.
The New Left is not Cultural Marxism, even if it involves Marxist criticisms of culture and so on. It has fuck all really to do with the Frankfurt School.
The New Left is post-68 stuff. It's far better to read and more useful than FS.
>>55376396
How do people even learn about this? I really don't believe anyone looked up this Royall Jr.'s name and researched this history. I bet some overheard some tour guide mention and word got around to their group.
Anglo BLOOD.
Would you rather it be cocky asshole white males? At least these negras seem to be having fun, which is basically what life should be about.
>>55378245
I have a copy of Madness and Civilization on my desk right now, senpai. Foucault is actually one of my favorite left wing writers
>>55381180
weak bait, here is your (you)
>>55380852
Fair response. I'm not American and tend to find British cultural materialism after Williams to be more interesting than its American counterparts. Britain definitely suffers from linguistic isolation in philosophy. And it's interesting hearing your take on Anderson and Blackburn. I know that Anderson's personal inheritance from his Anglo-Irish establishment family served as subvention for the New Left Review for many years. Any more similar gossip?
>>55380990
Agreed that the New Left is way more broad than cultural marxism. I can't remember which of those refs talks specifically about cultural marxism -- it's just a bibliography I had sitting around from a while back that points in the right direction. And most of all, serves as a corrective that debate about the meaning of "cultural marxism" was very well established before /pol/ came along.
>>55376396
I cant believe that people are actually considering to change the schools crest because of this. Its a fucking bush of wheat.
>>55375572
>Ubisoft
>good
REEEEEEEEEEE
>>55381207
>Foucault is actually one of my favorite left wing writers
Foucault is shit and he's not raelly that left-wing.
>>55381252
Not bait, just from my experience as a white male, white males are the most egotistical, annoying people, at least at my university in Florida
Affirmative action was created to supplant niggers and spics into universities they had no business attending. Now they are the voice of those universities; and to no one's surprise, everything that voice says is retarded. So they get to use the renowned reputation of these institutions to spout off retarded rhetoric, and every millenial fuck just laps it up because "harvard" or "yale" or "USC".
Welcome to the downfall of higher education.
>>55375461
What do you mean? They're laughing their fucking asses off about all this literally AS IT HAPPENS.
This is all according to plan. It's better than they ever could have dreamed. They love it.
Daily reminder that If you didn't study in Oxbridge / Ivy you are a plenus pleb.
Yale still has the largest, highest performing endowment of any school sooo...
>>55381452
lmao I bet you went to a trade school
>>55381363
Foucault BTFO'd Chomsky in a particularly entertaining fashion
Universities are about networking, not about learning.
>>55381498
Oi man, I realy liek diz image mon. Ya feel me? Kan I safe id, bro?
>>55375088
Op did u get in to yale?
Could you even apply?
Ill wait
>>55378245
>But a dry academic bore and dullard like Kellner would certainly never use the term "Cultural Marxism" in anything like the way it is used on /pol/ - i.e. as a term for some sort of coordinated doctrinaire programme of subversion orchestrated and staffed by "da Jooz".
You do realize the entire Frankfurt school was funded by uber rich Jew Felix Weil right? And most in the school were Jews. But I guess you're the kinda of moron who thinks that's just a coincidence.
>>55379438
All of those black ppl are far smarter than you
Ill bet you didn't even goto college
>>55375088
>ot even the Ivy League can escape cultural Marxist degeneracy
they are where it started
>>55381284
Although I am posting from Paris, the Frankfurt School stand, for me, head and shoulders above all other cultural and social analysts, regardless of whether you call them "Marxists", "Cultural Marxists", or whatever.
I do actually have a few bits of interesting "gossip" about them, if you mean by that little-known or little-accepted facts.
The most interesting thing about Frankfurt School theory of the best period is maybe the fact that it is maybe the most "unread" of all bodies of modern theory. The really great books are "The Dialectic of Enlightenment", the "Minima Moralia" and the "Negative Dialectics" and the first one, in particular, has almost been "kept secret" for 70 years. Adorno and Horkheimer never assigned it to their own students in Frankfurt in the 50s and 60s. It was unknown abroad (Foucault famously said just before he died that he WISHES he had read Adorno and Horkheimer but really didnt up until his very last years). And since about 1980 its ideas have become swamped in the much weaker, watered-down, "language-analytical" version of Critical Theory pushed by Adorno's teaching assistant Habermas.
Most interesting of all, I think, is a fact that we learn from Rolf Wiggershaus's history of the Frankfurt School: when Adorno and Horkheimer sent the "Dialectic" to Marcuse in the mid-40s when they were all in the US, he had no reaction at all. He didn't understand a word of it. And since Marcuse was the only one of the School who stayed on in the US after 1950, this means that the "Frankfurt School theory" that was taught in US colleges - primarily by Marcuse at Brandeis and the University of California - was a simplified, distorted "idiots version". This surely partly contributed to the idiocy of the stormbabbies' "Cultural Marxism".
>>55380516
MIT alum here
They did not offer Clockmed admission, his family visited though and was given an official tour
All my libkek former friends that were undergrads fawned over him of course but for the most part a lot of MIT students didn't like him/were salty (which is fair) that such a dunce could get national attention while they're discovering particles and cancer drugs and getting dick in terms of recognition
The Asian immigrant/exchange students and pretty much any grad student could give two fucks less
>>55375088
Niggers ruin everything
>>55375088
Affirmative action is destroying the ivy league schools
>>55379859
>Ivy
>STEM
Ivies are only good for humanities. If you want an outstanding STEM education, you'd be better off at a state school like MIT, Stanford, CalTech, Michigan or Purdue.
>>55382744
Ever suck a guy's cock? Wanna suck mine?
>>55382884
They're already a lost cause. Best to just let it collapse and start over.
>>55375088
>Ivy League
>implying its not
>Ebony League
>>55382306
No, I'm the kind of moron who realizes that
(a) someone's being a Jew or otherwise doesn't say anything, necessarily, about their political agenda (for every Noam Chomsky there is a Henry Kissinger; for every Glenn Greenwald there is a Ben Shapiro. Have you really not noticed that?)
and
(b) How something STARTED is absolutely no indication of what it might have or did become. (4chan started as a board for weeaboo anime fans but I haven't seen a single anime mentioned in this or any other thread that I've read today on /pol/). Weil contributed nothing to the actual theoretical production of the Frankfurt School and I have no doubt that after about 1935 he was barely even in a position to KNOW what was being produced by "his" Institute.
>>55382744
Cool info. Thanks for sharing. I didn't realize that Dialectic of Enlightenment was kept so underground by Adorno and Horkheimer. Especially since it's so readable. I still really like the chapter on the "culture industry" -- the indistinguishability of different cars, the turning of music into a commodity, the ills of Toscanini... I've read Martin Jay's and Susan-Buck-Morss's accounts of the emergence of the Frankfurt school, though both of those are pretty strictly intellectual history and don't have many juicy tidbits.
I've heard stories that in 1968 in Germany and Austria, Adorno's students were pleading with him to spell out the relationship between Negative Dialectics and the 68 student uprisings. He said something like that there was no relationship and refused to speak in favor of the student movement. This also creates a pretty major break between the high mandarin intellectual labors of Adorno (with his amazing essay on the essay as form, or on lyric poetry, or the Beethoven book on late style) and the popular student-intellectual formation called "cultural marxism." It's something I doubt /pol/ posters will be able to make any sense of.
fuck this gay earth
>>55383059
Not true, my friend. Here are the latest admission statistics for Harvard. 10.6 percent African-American.
>>55375743
We all know ivy undergrad doesn't mean jack shit
>>55382744
Interesting, thank you
>>55375572
i feel for the poor plumbers that have to unplog the toilets of bloody feminine products each and every month.
>>55375088
the anal dilatation is the root of all degeneracy
>>55383488
Harvard is 40% kike
>>55383059
>ebony league
>>55375088
You think everyone in that picture would have committed suicide on the spot after that was taken if they saw what was happening now?
>>55383918
Evidence? Also, you might enjoy this book.
"Focusing on America's Big Three (Harvard, Yale, and Princeton), Karabel recounts how the admissions office first emerged in the 1920s as an academic innovation designed to protect WASP privilege against the claims of the bright but socially marginal children of Jewish immigrants. By the time these anti-Semitic admissions policies ended, administrators had discovered the institutional utility of nonacademic admissions standards: Karabel shows in provocative detail how for decades the very university executives who have preached equal opportunity have extended special advantages to the offspring of wealthy alumni."
>>55375088
No one in affluent communities takes Yale seriously anymore.
>>55384246
The Chosen: The Hidden History of Admission and Exclusion at Harvard, Yale, and Princeton
>>55382312
Maybe better educated. I would wager that their average IQ and intelligence is equal to that of this board. It's a bell curve no matter where you go, especially if special exceptions have been made to admit lower quality students due to ethnic diversity quotas
>>55382898
>i have zero exposure to these private universities
> yet i claim to be an expert on engineering programs while posting on a nigerian cave drawing board
>>55384246
>colleges are a business
How did you not know this already?
>>55382898
Barkley?
>>55383219
Yes, there is an interesting book published by Suhrkamp containing interviews with people who studied with Adorno in Frankfurt in the 50s and 60s and several of them do say that he and Horkheimer practically forbade them to read the "Dialectic".
I'm sure their reasons were complicated. I don't think they disowned the book because it remained the basis of all their post-war work. I suppose their secrecy was a mixture of persisting Jewish anxiety - they didnt rule out a resurgence of Naziism, even though they had chosen to return to Germany - and fear that the book would be misunderstood.
Because I can't agree with you that the book was easy to read at all. Particularly in the Adorno chapters, the things that are being said are absolutely unprecedented, inside or outside Marxism. The book completely bursts the framework of the Marxist philosophy of history and changes the meaning of most of Marxism's key terms by placing the emergence of "alienation" back beyond capitalism, beyond feudalism, beyond even the age of slavery, in some sort of pre-historic period that only myth gives us access to.
In fact, the book goes even further. It suggests that "alienation" is not even the problem, and that what we need in order to "heal" things is not LESS but MORE "alienation": an ability to leave Nature and the "non-identical" be instead of, like Marx and Hegel, reducing everything to something we can "see ourselves in".
In this respect, certainly, it's mistaken to place Adorno and Horkheimer in the Marxist tradition at all, although they did COME from there. At the ends of their lives, they were for all practical intents and purposes conservatives and what they wanted to "conserve" was above all classical European culture, against the new barbarism that, unfortunately, the '68 students represented.
>>55385277
That's an interesting reading of Negative Dialectics -- not one I've come across before either. I did a grad class just on the book, so know it pretty well. I'm inclined to think of the process of negative dialectics as a kind of aesthetics of the small that tries to avoid any concept or category that seems it might be totalizing. The result is an interest in micro-processes, especially as they unfold in art, as in the formal relation between one sentence and another.
Your image of the conservatism of Adorno and Horkheimer too sounds a lot like the image of Benjamin's Angel of History, looking backwards while seeing "one single catastrophe which keeps piling wreckage upon wreckage and hurls it in front of his feet." The desire is very strongly to reaffirm something of the past within the increasing ruin of the future. In this sense, the key thinking of the Frankfurt School has almost nothing to do with the main currents of "cultural marxism" as an attempt to use more popular forms of cultural production as a site for ideology critique and thus social change. And it has absolutely nothing to do with the pervasive idea here on /pol/, which seems to be some conspiracy of Jewish bankers, or the effects of identity politics and affirmative action, or social movements designed to promote justice in one form or another.
I'd be curious to read more about your interpretation of Negative Dialectics, if you end up publishing something on the subject. I'll check out the Suhrkamp volume too.
>>55385838
Well, there is no denying that there is something "Jewish" in the twist - and its a very big twist - that Adorno and co give to Marxism. (The stormbabbies will scream that "Marx was a Jew" but he certainly didn't identify as a Jew on any level. "On The Jewish Question" would have been accepted by Der Stuermer).
I think too much weight is put on Benjamin's supposed "theology" - people who KNEW theology, like his friend Scholem, were politely sceptical about how "theological" he really was - but certainly the "Angel of History looking backwards" can fairly be read as a Jewish political theology resisting the dominant Christian one. The Christian Angel of History does not (generally) "look back". For Christianity, the historical death and suffering of individuals is ultimately without importance, either because "all that matters is the afterlife" or because, as Augustine argued, History is the divine march of God on the earth and must be unconditionally affirmed. The Jews, who barely have a conception of "the afterlife" at all, tend to experience History's victims as irreparable losses. Their Angel of History moves forward, but looks back.
In the "Negative Dialectics" Adorno finds this genuinely Jewish element in Marxism by suggesting that a correspondence exists between this "irreparable" and the basic building block of the argument of "Das Kapital": "use value" "Use value" is that aspect of an object by which it is commensurable with nothing but itself, that gets wiped out by "exchange value" in commodity society. Marxism is about affirming a philosophy of history which would replace "use value" in its proper place. But it never occurred to Marxists that the historical sacrifices they demanded in the service of this goal are instances of "exchange value" - of believing that a death today will be "made good" by utopia tomorrow. Adorno was the only Marxist who ever confronted the doctrine of "Capital" with the doctrine of the "Communist Manifesto".
>>55375572
Look at all those ugly middle-aged white women.
Well, at least diversity is still alive and well, look at all those different bright hair colors!
>>55375572
Am I the only one who thinks Blacklist was a great game?
>>55377798
"greater range of learning"
But does it translate into an institution that could offer graduates that are as productive and beneficial to society as one that simply focused on obtaining the most academically/intellectually gifted admissions?
Some how I doubt it.
>>55386926
I agree that cultural there's very little that's Jewish about Marx, but there is a lot in Walter Benjamin. As I understand it, it mostly comes through his early reading of Hermann Cohen and other Neo-Kantians. And also a mystical strand coming through Franz Rozenszweig and, to an extent (as you mention) through Scholem. This material is often underrecognized in making sense of Benjamin's messianic strand, it seems to me, perhaps most likely because most scholars in a Marxist tradition of not very familiar with forms of Jewish mysticism. But this has nothing to do with Jewish bankers or the Rothschilds or any global financial conspiracy. If anything, it's the opposite -- a remarkably impractical and melancholy mode of reflection and antipositivism. Your comments on capital are nice too. You obviously know this material well (professionally, I imagine). I hope anyone else who might be reading uses all this discussion as a corrective when trying to understand what "cultural marxism" and the legacy of the Frankfurt School might be about.
>>55388047
I'm inclined to think that affirmative action does slightly lower academic standards, but that the difference is pretty marginal. On the positive side of the ledger, it gives everyone a much broader scope of learning -- understanding more histories, cultures, identities, languages, perspectives -- and this is broadly beneficial to everyone's interpretation of the world after centuries in Western Europe where privileged white males were predominantly the class represented. And there's the corollary effect that if everyone get better educated, we have smarter societies, better health outcomes, more peace, and a greater chance that we won't destroy our own planet. At least, that is to say I'm optimistic about how high levels of education for a wide population can improve the standard of living for everyone.
>be me twelve years ago
>worked my ass off throughout highschool
>perfect 4.0 GPA and half a dozen extracurricular achievements from UIL, varsity track & field, and even volunteering at local Goodwill
>fantastic SAT scores across the board
>get accepted into Stanford
>graduation time
>mexican female matches my GPA, assume it'll be a shared valedictorian
>school wants to promote diversity, so they give her extra credit that they don't allow me to do
>her GPA becomes 4.01 and I'm demoted to Salutatorian
>complain and bitch to the school board, PTA, anyone who'll listen
>they're all jazzed up by their first minority female valedictorian and want the white guy to stfu
>first clue of how life works
>begin applying for grants to help pay for school
>white, male and lower middle class family puts me out of virtually every single one available
>had parents been poorer, could've had something, had they been richer, they could've helped pay
>look for jobs nearby and discover even working a full-time income on what's available while attending demanding Stanford classes would never be able to afford it and just waste student loans on what will end with me having to drop out
>sign up for military instead to take advantage of GI bill down the road while Iraq War is still new
>get injured by IED outside Tikrit and medically discharged
>doing any work I could after just to make ends meet
>constantly passed over for promotions at work in favor of women and racial minorities because of my privileged white background
Almost at that point where I can't take it anymore. I've seriously considered emigrating to anywhere else, but I don't know where I'd go where it isn't like this already.
>>55388247
>much broader scope of learning
But in what sense? How does understanding of broad cultural landscape benefit everyone? Since it was the "privileged white males" that made the choices to loosen their power grasp enough to allow this change how does it benefit me as a privileged white male to allow you as an outsider to the society and institutions I've created spend my resources teaching about your experiences? Especially if you're not as cognitively capable as I am? Further more if I really am just excited to get the perspective why wouldn't I just take your counter parts that are on par with me?
Why should my educational values reflect yours?
>>55389184
I'll give you a concrete and simple example. A lot of scholarship on Shakespeare has been done with a focus on England and English-language material. This is cool, but it doesn't line up with what was happening in Shakespeare's time, when there was a lot of political tension and cultural exchange between England and Spain. In the past twenty years or so, there's been a lot more attention given to this cross-cultural exchange, including to the way Shakespeare used Cervantes' Don Quixote to get the story for his now-lost-play Cardenio. It just happens that this set of developments cooincides with the increase in the proportion of Latino students at US universities. Personally, I don't think that this is a coincidence. And I think that the result is that we (collectively) have a better understanding of Shakespeare now as a result of pooling more cross-cultural knowledge. You don't have to get all stormfronty and think this is people takin' muh guns and muh freedoms. This is just expanding the range of knowledge we have about the world. Seems pretty good for everyone!
>>55375931
Me too
>>55376921
I went to Cornell for undergrad (B.A. chemistry). What's wrong with it?
>>55375572
I stopped playing computer games when I was 20.
>>55379673
Ευχαριστώ πολύ
>>55389424
But over all those are subjective and dare I even say trivial things, but to the extent we are going to say they are beneficial what proof do I have that all cultures are going bring as much a benefit as the example you provided and that were a benefit exists it out weighs the detriment?
If I'm a greedy old white male then in many whys I'm a very pragmatic man if I want to diversify, because I've changed my morality and values. I'm going to think about my world and things the really have progressed it and choose people that can bring in diversity without destabilizing the parts of my society I want relatively unchanged.
Why wouldn't I cater to for example, all of the poor white guys or maybe even woman I've excluded for so long? Certainly they could bring a different cultural perspective?
Or the Chinese Buddhist or atheist over the devout Syrian Muslim?
Do you see what I'm getting at? I don't see proof of the benefit of broad over unfettered diversity. Indeed some cultures I may wish to exclude. Some groups even.
Were is the proof that doing so would not benefit my institution more?
>>55376384
White students (likely including some students of full or partial Middle Eastern Jewish ancestry who many people may consider to be only of partial white ancestry although many of the 'White students' I'm talking about are not Jewish or part Jewish) on athletic scholarships benefit more in terms of raw number of students admitted from being held to lower academic standards when applying for Ivy league schools than non-White people
https://sites.google.com/site/nuritbaytch/
>>55390262
I don't accept that Shakespeare and Cervantes are trivial!
I'm not arguing that all things are the same or of equal interest or value. But I would argue that more knowledge is better than less. The greater the cultural scope of research that exists in a given university or research field, the better equipped you are to interpret and respond with skill to new problems. In English literature, it's turned out to be vastly beneficial to take more account of all the different literary traditions that have been important for English literature and not just limit the field to literature written in English. In other words, understanding English literature really well is aided by understanding world literature, or at the least by understanding the stuff that authors like Shakespeare understood (which included material coming from Latin, Greek, French, Spanish, and maybe some other places) when you're reading Shakespeare.
Don't be so defensive about this. More knowledge is simply better, even if it does mean that monolingual white guys have to stretch a bit outside their comfort zones.
>>55390622
Yeah.... how exactly does the presence of Latinos in a university make Shakespeare better understood exactly? I think you may have glossed over the part where one has to be Latino (or from any other culture) to understand world literature.
>>55390622
You can't simply say more knowledge is better because time is finite. Choices have to made the value of some knowledge over others in a given context. If I'm engineering a course in literature an someone suggest Edo period Japanese poetry I'd probably find that a compelling suggestions for an addition but probably wouldn't include it to the exclusion of Southern Gothic works, and I definitely wouldn't choose Pirahã oral tradition over either(barring something very unique about it(actually come to think of it there might be).
>>55375734
>tfw public school honors college
>tfw rhodes scholars, marshall scholars, movie stars, tech billionaires
>tfw tf
>>55387969
Coop mode was good
>>55390881
Because people with Spanish-language skills are reading material by Cervantes, Calderon de la Barca, Lope de Vega, and others in Spanish and they're noticing cross fertilization that was taking place, which leads to more detailed and better informed interpretations. The same is true of historical-contextual material (royal declamations, travel writing, religious pronouncements and the like). For a long time, Shakespeare studies was a very clubby, Oxbridgey white male scene where almost no scholars read material in Spanish. That's changed and now everyone who gives a shit about Shakespeare (which is most people who have a clue) is benefiting. Can I make that any more clear? I'll happily give more examples.
>>55377129
You don't declare thread over in your own post, but yeah.
>>55375088
>Not even the Ivy League can escape cultural Marxist degeneracy
the ivy's invented this shit hombre
>>55375088
They basically invented it.
>>55379673
Not only that, but this non-merit based admissions stuff was designed to keep kikes out of Harvard. Fresh out of the oven the jews founded Brandeis in retaliation. True story.
>>55390975
That's why universities employ more than one scholar. Wide-ranging expertise.
yale student reporting in
sam hyde is on campus rn, expect a new mde video with sam and chuck trolling around yale
The impact of the admissions preference for athletes is vividly illustrated by SAT score data released by Yale for its 2004 NCAA Self-Study. The mean SAT score of Yale students in 2001 was 1437, while the mean SAT score for whites was 1450 vs 1482 for Asians; 24% of white students were athletes (with a mean SAT score of 1347) vs only 6% of Asian students. White students comprised 75% of athletes but only 53% of Yale students in general.[51] Based on the score and enrollment data in the NCAA Self-Study, I calculate that white students who were not athletes had a mean SAT score of 1482, while the corresponding score for Asians was 1487. Hence, the higher mean SAT score for Asians could be accounted for almost entirely by Yale’s admissions preference for athletes.
>>55375931
This T. B. H. F. A. M.
I think the shift happened on 9/11 but i can't pin it down exactly we need to cause another shift and see if the next parralel universe is better
>>55391150
What I don't think you've made clear is how being Latino affects one's ability to speak Spanish; I'm white as fuck and I speak Spanish.
What is it about their cultural background that makes Latinos more suited to reading Spanish Renaissance literature? How is it that Latinos, by simply being present at a university, make world literature better understood by all who study it at said university?
>>55375088
This is why the US is fucked. Instead of colleges being a place for the best and brightest to learn, it's a place for the fattest and most entitled to complain about things that hurt their feelings.
In 20 years, virtually all technological progress in the US will grind to a complete halt as no one is left that even understands how modern technology works.
>>55379859
You mean kikes like Fuckerberg?
>>55391269
But more than one scholar doesn't change the fact classes have limited time course are limited. Time is limited so exclusion have to be made.
>>55377055
i thought the frankfurt guys in new york worked at the new school
>>55380513
It's pretty fun, though.
HOW DO WE FIX THIS?
>>55391269
>>55391403
Also, forgive me for not stating this, but I'm exclusively talking about students, not scholars.
That's were much of Marxist ideology is being pumped out: Elitist privileged white liberal colleges
>>55379221
underrated post of the year
>>55391423
Yes intelligent people that contribute to society. Jews might be dirty money laundering media controlling deceivers but they are among the highest contributers to math and science.
>>55375743
>state institutions
>lists private universities
Also
>library
>mattering at all in a world where the internet exists
>>55375088
I know a murrican dude who goes to one of these schools and him and his arab boyfriend LOVE licking faces.
Got a whole set of them doing facelicking but it's 2lewd4pol.
>>55391403
You don't have to be Latino and some of the most influential scholars doing this scholarship aren't, but a greater level of Spanish-language expertise in English-speaking universities recently has meant that people are paying more attention to details of Spanish-English cross-influences, and these influences are real and interesting. Having more native speakers of Spanish (or people with total fluency) who are studying English literature is helping to build a more full picture of how English-Spanish influence was working in the early seventeenth century.
Barbara Fuchs's The Poetics of Piracy: Emulating Spain in English Literature (2013) is a good example. And she's not Latina but has contributed a lot to this field.
>>55375088
question: with the obvious decline in education and general intelligence, how does america plan to stay competetive?
those "people" are not going to stand a chance against china and europe, all memeing aside.
>>55375466
Plenty of Asians are in medical programs over here. It was kinda weird feeling like a minority in my graduating class without a single black person.
Right now I'd say its amazing for Asians who want to study over here tb.hf am
>>55391611
Which of University of Virginia, the University of Michigan, Rutgers University, or the University of California Berkeley is not a state-funded university? Do you know what you're talking about?
And physical libraries have not been replaced by the internet. Read a few books about early modern literary studies by Peter Stallybrass, Juliet Fleming, or Adrian Johns and you'll understand. Or talk to a medievalist who works with manuscripts.
>>55391628
post it anyways senpai
>>55389103
underrated post if true.
feels bad man.
>>55391419
>In 20 years, virtually all technological progress in the US will grind to a complete halt as no one is left that even understands how modern technology works.
We technocracy now
>>55392365
I'm ok with this.
>>55392365
I for one welcome our inevitable robot overlords
>>55391706
>>55391150
Is a new perspective on Shakespeare worth the grievance studies, ethnic conflict, and economic inequality that hispanics produce?
Obviously, being bilingual has its benefits, but you don't have to be hispanic to be bilingual. Furthermore, I doubt many hispanics are doing significant research on anything but grievance studies.
>>55376549
No such thing as cultural Marxism
No such thing as feminism
Society has become safer and technologically advanced, that is all
People don't change their behaviour fundamentally because of some -ism which exists on a printed page
A modern mechanised society will always kowtow to females and minorities
>>55388085
The best way to understand Marx is to know the forming moment in his childhood.
His father had converted to Christianity, when the younger Marx asked why the elder why, he replied "it was good for business."
In that moment Marx gained his hatred of capitalism and money (because his father sold out his religion and people for greed), and religion specifically Christianity.
>>55375088
Are those niggers real Yale students or just paid walk-on shills?
>>55391893
U of M is a private school for sure
>>55391893
Also
>read books about modern literary studies
No
>>55394133
"The University of Michigan (U-M, UM, UMich, or U of M), frequently referred to simply as Michigan, is a public research university located in Ann Arbor, Michigan, United States."
Just repeating in case you missed it:
"public research university"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Michigan
Please be careful with empirical details.
>>55393922
Never heard this story before. Source? It sounds apocryphal.
>>55393306
I think that better education for all improves economic opportunity, longevity, and overall well being. I can't see why you'd say that having more Latinos with higher education creates income inequality. Or maybe I misread your point, because I don't fully follow.
And plenty of Latinos are doing groundbreaking work now on early modern literature. Just check the faculty list of any major research university in this field.
>>55389648
You went to an Ivy League school for chemistry and didn't even bother getting a BS? What are you doing with that degree now?
>>55375590
>The US does reverse affirmative action against chinks because rich white people don't want their kids to have to compete with Asians.
Maryland checking in. You're wrong. Johns Hopkins and all surrounding schools have tons of Chinese and Korean students, more than any other place I have ever seen.
>>55389830
So you stopped this week?
You stopped playing video games the week Fallout 4 released?
You're fucking dumb
>>55376041
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>>55377269
wow, you mean Columbia even still allows the study of "engineering" there? That doesn't reinforce the patriarchy? Did my MA in Med./Renn studies there bc they were reputed to have the best program in the US. A FEW knowledgeable, decent professors (almost al the ones who were close to retirement and didn't care anymore). Spent the rest of my time hearing about how awful the jews were treated by Whitey and how Muslim Spain was a Paradise and great centre of culture and learning." After 4 months, was ready to blow my brains out. And I thought I was suicidal after Harvard! I was a "legacy" in a sense bc my older brother had gone there and done very well. He warned me to go to Williams, that it was not worth the misery. Boy do I wish I had listened.
>>55391161
I don't think that means what you think it means Chuck.
>>55377745
My paths? Harvard UG, Columbia MA, Medieval and Renn Studies. The idea of " a great library with a great collection" is completely useless to an undergrad. You don't have enough specialist's knowledge yet to require access to those sort os rare books. Maybe in some ways, it can prepare you for the endless hours of sitting in dank European stacks translating indecipherable Latin, but even that is dubious at best. I still DEEPLY regret not taking my older brother's advice (who had gone to H.) to go to Williams and actually ENJOY my UG years around...well, Williams is (from what I understand) the same sort of WASP, elitist social scene, but at least it's a pretty setting and far less SJWs. Biggest mistake of my life
>>55391431
The most influential set were at Columbia, churning out their poisonous filth.
>>55395162
Interesting! I think myself that Jean Howard is passionate and engaged; Jim Shapiro is getting on and distracted by his publishing projects; Julie Crawford is a really good teacher; Alan Stewart is really smart and good fun. And there are a bunch of others too. The library resources are great in Butler too. It's weird you didn't have such a great time there, though were you in the cash-cow MA program (in which case you were treated as an inferior grad student and made to pay massive piles of money for the privilege)?
What are you going to do next / or are doing now after that?
>>55394615
>Fallout 4 released
Jew-tier microtransaction game. Only fun if you like watching your shekels disappear.
>>55395421
Probably true for undergrad research, unless you really get into material culture. Though as a grad student it opens important doors. I need a good library because much of my material isn't digitized and I can't wait two weeks every time I need an interlibrary loan delivery. And now there's Early English Books Online, which is phenomenally useful. I don't think you'll have found Williams to be any different from other liberal arts colleges in the NE in that it's mostly populated by rich white kids who dream of a better world while frolicking in their campus playgrounds. I can't think of a university you'd fit in with well -- except maybe Bob Jones university or some weird fringe Christian institution.
>>55377688
lol france
>>55375254
>I can't wait for the Ivys to crumble
Already have, Columbia and Harvard Law programs got their shit slapped during the Occupy Wall St. bullshit.
Now with the waves of Affirmative Action minorities that ACTUALLY graduate with their the situation will be even worse especially once they start getting actual employment and shut the whites out of their job markets entirely.
Most whites that see a Harvard/Yale degree from a nig now know exactly where it came from, wait until the nigger is on the hiring side of the desk.
>>55391390
Yes, but what exactly does that prove? Yale still needs to fill out the spots on its rosters. If you're a Asian who happens to be good at math while not really having any other standout extracurriculars, you're interchangeable with 100 different Asians with the same score competing for that spot. You're also factoring in Jews (who literally have a shitfit if their percentage should happen to dip below 25% of student body, and accuse admit of "aunty-semitism." There was an hilarious "scandal" a few years back on why Princeton's student body was "only" 18% Jewish, and did this show an anti-Jewish bias? Funny how Jews always want "diversity," but not if it means that 2% of the population should give up having 25% of the places at every major Ivy. And then you factor in legacies, athletes, really big potential donor money with good connections...I dumped a Yale bitch after one date after she infomred me she had "dated Eric holder's son" Was that meant to impress me? That she was burning coal with obongo's right hand marxist negro, who admitted to not taking his final exams at Columbia bc of his "protesting," yet STILL graduating and got into Yale Law? Nigger, please...
>>55394551
There would be even more if they stopped. See what happened to the UC system after they banned AA.
>>55382898
>MIT
better start building that clock
>>55395821
Don't worry asshole, i still graduated Magna cum laude, with Summa cum laude in the Eng dept. I turned down a fellowship to UK bc I didn't want to deal with that whole brit scene at Cambridge. And you must be just a social butterfly, seeing as you on 4chan all day. Those who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. No, I never did get "house colors" at my house at H. and wasn't very sociable; but people will forgive social awkwardness if you are good enough at what you do. You'll always be "the grey man" no matter how hard work or don't work, bc you don't have my natural ability. Sorry.
>>55396024
>nigger on the hiring side of the desk
fugg
>>55396298
>social butterfly
top lel you smartasses are useful for something after all
more of these funny words
>>55396298
Actually I've been writing all day and taking occasional breaks to see what's up here. Signing off. You never did say what you're doing now!
>>55395821
Oh, and the greatest irony, after getting TWO diff grad degrees, I ended up in hollywood, where people not only don't give a shit where you went to school, but having gone to an Ivy League school is actually a LIABILITY bc the Stud ppl always feel as if you think you have the right to "talk down to them," which is why I only decided to go with by "grad production school program MFA" on ll my bios. And, yes, I HAVE writtten films you'd have seen. I get to make at least 3x MORE than than the Econ Major/Goldman Sachs types, don't need to sit in a dank archive translating Latin, get to work ALONE save for dealing with directors/producers/Agent, etc... and actually turned out very happy in my career. When I'm having writer's block, I am truly miserable. But I have succeeded where MANY others have tried and failed...miserably
>>55396506
just answered!!
>>55377510
Actually a hilarious read.
Thanks, Frenchie. You should write for a paper if you don't already.
>>55389648
Cornell is overwhelming considered "The easy Ivy." I had a dark-skinned Italian from my school who claimed to be puerto rican and got into Cornell with scores...not even over the 65% on his SAT. Cornell isn't a "real" Ivy. Which might be a good thing. Also, doesn't it still have "frats?" That right there makes it a vomit. Claiming to have gone to "an Ivy league school" when you went to conrell is like claiming to have lost your virginity for finger-banging a stripper through her underwear.
>>55379124
Looks like Obama's daughters, are you suggesting they're not lovely?
>>55395421
Yes, dickhead. You come out of H. with as Magna Cum Laude and are "meant to pay massive amounts" for the privilege of being a grad student at Columbia. Which has only become "hot" again as a UG destination bc our wünderbar presidente "transferred" there somehow after 2 yeard at Occidental. The fact that he couldn't get right into H/Y/P as an undergrad given his backround speaks volumes about the type of test scores and GPA he must have had. They were practically pulling blacks out of trees at that point and throwing them into H/Y/P if they thought they even had a chance of being able to hack it.
>>55375088
You know that fat black dyke on the right wrote her admissions essay about being a fat black dyke.
>>55383282
>Print those out.
>Distribute them all over Mizzou's campus.
>Watch the literal shitstorm that pops off tomorrow.
>>55395598
I do think it's cute that you're smug enough to attempt to question my credentials. Believe me, unlike certain of us, my acceptance was not the seminal event of my life, as it clearly was to you. You ended up at Columbia bc H/P.Y shot you down, bc you were not clever enough to get into the schools I got into, and simply don't want to accept that. for the record, WAs waitlisted by Yale, by my acceptance to Princeton (which you'd have fucked your own mother for) is proof I wasn't simply a legacy and could have gotten in where I wanted on my own. How does it make you feel? As you sit at Columbia, ostracized by the SJW and rejected by whatever "frat" you "rushed," while an unreconstructed White boy like me could write my own ticket, based on academics, wrestling, and squash? Lol, "bob jones?" Sorry Pleb, you were never Y/P/L material. Obviously it still bugs the shit out of you to this day. Suck on it. :)
>>55375651
>women always need to be in the front
>>55395821
Oh ,and also shithead, I'll type with one hand on 4chan and put my real focus onto my work . And I'll make all the grammar, spelling, and capitalization errors I choose. I've already beaten people like you. Who somehow seem to be obsessed with the idea that you are "smarter" than I bc I have reactionary views, yet you STILL ended up at fucking COLUMBIA (which is probably a lie as well, I suspect you're at Cornell). In any event, you try to put me down, try to make your bank-handed insults, but at day's end, you're still "the grey man," probably obese, homosexual, AND a virgin fitting the profile of the typical Columbia SJW male. The only excersie you probably got in your life was helping "Mattress Girl" fulfill her...what did they call it? "Senior Art Project?" Funny, I had to spend the entire f--king summer before senior year in Cambridge for access to Winder to write my thesis. Why didn't I think of "carrying a mattress" instead? Your bitter tears of envy and hatred make me hard. Fuck you. :)
>>55391340
>sam hyde is on campus rn, expect a new mde video with sam and chuck trolling around yale
best news i've heard all day.
>>55397791
Are you kidding? Do you even know what this thread is about?
>>55377221
>Come up with a better term for PC culture
You just named it.
>>55389103
>but I don't know where I'd go where it isn't like this already.
asian countries are pretty insulated from it desu.
>>55404657
Man, I could imagine what would happen at a Russian university if a student disrespected a professor like >>55379124 did at Yale. I bet Dr. Ivan Rus would punch her in the face.
>>55391706
Yeah, sorry, but this whole "Latino students have created a new perspective on Shakespeare" thing is wrong and ignorant to the point of being ridiculous. I'd say that your even suggesting a thing is proof positive that you cannot possibly be at an Ivy League university but having seen this latest Yale video I suppose that it is, sadly, possible that you are.
The standards of scholarship have surely been steadily slipping at Oxford and Cambridge over the past thirty or forty years as they have everywhere else. But in my day not even the most ignorant, blinkered little Trot at Oxford would have made himself so laughable as to contend that the Oxbridge-trained Shakespeare scholars whose lectures and tutorials he was obliged to attend did not know Cervantes and the whole of 16th Century Spanish literature inside out and back to front and sideways. For Shakespeare scholars of the generation of, say, G. Wilson Knight it went without saying that you didn't write a word about Shakespeare unless you were competent to write about the whole of Renaissance and Baroque literature, which meant knowing Greek and Latin and all the modern Romance Languages as well as English.
The difference is that scholars like Knight - or even, today, Harold Bloom at Yale, who is one of the last representatives of that kind of scholar - really did let it GO WITHOUT SAYING that they knew Spanish better than most Spaniards, Italian better than most Italians etc. They didn't pander to extra- and even anti-academic influences by making their indispensable professional familiarity with "the Other" the "unique selling proposition" of a lucrative career.
But sadly, for both us and for the "sellers", the person who tries to sell themselves as a "Rainbow Coalition Shakespeare scholar" is, these days, the very opposite of unique. The work you cite by Barbara Fuchs sounds like the kind of worthless formulaic travesty that rolls off the production lines of "tenure factories" 100 times a year.
>>55409343
In the first place, a good rule of thumb for ANY work with a gerund in the title ("Emulating Spain...", "En-Gendering the Baroque", "Queering Christopher Marlowe") is "straight into the trash it goes". And this book in particular reeks of its origins in what I believe Bloom himself calls the "school of ressentiment": "Poetics of Piracy"....."Emulating Spain"...I haven't even read it and already I can smell the stench rising off it of the "Jane Austen's novels are really all about slavery, how come you didn't know that?" school of pseudo-scholarship, which sees purported research into English literature as just another excuse to flaggelate those who deny that "the history of Western culture is built on violence and criminality" and that "the duskier and more negrified a populace is the more secretly superior and worthy of our emulation they must be".
>>55410292
http://www.press.uillinois.edu/books/catalog/48ncy4pt9780252027819.html
Quod erat demonstrandum.
"Cervantes and the Fictions of Identity"....."Impeccably researched, Passing for Spain examines how the fluidity of individual identity in early modern Spain undermined a national identity based on exclusion and difference."
Apart from the fact that EVERY BOOK SHE HAS PUBLISHED appears to feature a gerund form in its title - an ifallible indication of shallow modishness - its clear that this woman "free-bleeds" all over Cervantes as well as Shakespeare in her overriding concern to show how scholars "need" to be paying much less attention to dramatic form and poetic quality and much more attention to "exclusion" and "difference" and the way that Don Quixote prefigures the problems of contemporary trans-genderism and Othello the "dialectics of race" if the study of literature is going to remain "relevant".
Her "scholarship" is clearly on a par with the trash being turned out by Black Studies departments, such as the almost unbelievably ridiculous - yet apparently serious - contention by some trained monkey in such a department that "Fitzgerald's Gatsby was clearly a 'passing black'"
http://www.salon.com/2000/08/09/gatsby/
>>55391706
Okay, so swamping the country (and its welfare/entitlements system) is justifiable as long as we can understand Shakespeare better?
>>55399460
>>55400105
I haven't seen such an ass beating in a while, thanks for the laugh.
>>55379944
A large chunk of the descendants of American slaves are genetically broken.
Personality:
http://community.middlebury.edu/~jcarpent/papers/JRU%20%28Printed%20Version%29.pdf
https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/exploring-the-association-between-the-2-repeat-allele-of-the-maoa-gene.pdf
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=9226793
Intelligence:
http://link.springer.com/article/10.3758/BF03210739
http://www.jneurosci.org/content/30/16/5519.short
http://wicherts.socsci.uva.nl/wicherts2009.pdf
Importance of intelligence:
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1741-1130.2011.00281.x/full
http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/reprints/1997whygmatters.pdf
news.sciencemag.org/biology/2014/10/genes-dont-just-influence-your-iq-they-determine-how-well-you-do-school
https://www.psychologytoday.com/files/attachments/56143/wai-americas-elite-2013.pdf
Deal with it.
>>55375088
Academia in-general has declined from the first half of the 20th century to now. It was extremely rigorous. They didn't even want average people to study higher education. They only really accepted the best and brightest.
>>55418092
this is completely the result of the rise of technology
>>55376413
>>55376835
Why doesn't Canada have Asians on their board?
Are they racist against Asians?
>>55375088
>I got rejected for these fucks.
>>55376041
I just double-checked your flag to see if you're Australian.
>>55375572
MFW I believe those were taken in my native city of Montreal.
OP's picture is depressing.
>>55375572
One of my best memories in gaming ghost recon 2 :(
Fuck u ubishit fuck you!!!!!
>>55409343
>>55410292
>>55411706
I enjoyed reading these posts. Thanks.
>>55375254
>2015
>going to college
>wanting to be an aristocrat
>not hacking society
