I know people say 'well regulated means kept in good condition' but how does that figure with this part of the constitution.
>To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
So if 'the militia' is the people, does this mean the state governments have the authority to pass gun control laws constitutionally because they have the right to govern the militia?
>shall not be infringed
whats the part you dont get
>>55363074
You forgot the part where it says shall not be infringed, you retard.
>>55363104
The part were its not clear what the bill of rights means by 'the people'. As in individuals or as in 'the collective'.
That debate determines the nature of the 2nd amendment and people have been debating it since the 1800s.
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Second+Amendment
y'all nigers gotta learn basic constitutional law before you talk about shit.
>>55363074
>governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States
It just means if they hire the militia then they control the part they hired.
>>55363200
>The part were its not clear what the bill of rights means by 'the people'. As in individuals or as in 'the collective'.
you're really lickin' windows hard here.
in a constitutionally federal republic, "the people" always means the individuals.
not a collective group of individuals.
separate individuals.
and "well regulated" is just an adjective, you english major, you.
>So if 'the militia' is the people, does this mean the state governments have the authority to pass gun control laws constitutionally because they have the right to govern the militia?
In the same way that they can restrict freedom of speech.
States could, for example require gun safety classes in K-12 education, as a broad example.
SHALL
Will somebody please post the federalist paper that explains this?
Just so you guys know, there's a giant fucking collection of essays called "the federalist papers" written by the founding fathers that explain the reasoning behind every part of the constitution.
>>55363632
We the people of the united states of america...
I'd give you an educated response but in the current year that is not needed.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED.
Really though, gun confiscation would be such a horrible disaster. You'd see large, almost unbeatable pockets of resistance supported by the local PD and Sheriffs, as well as huge plots of land guarded by "militias" which are mainly made up of pissed off Iraq vets and neckbeards who can afford combat gear and a battle rifle.
Gun control legislation may have the ultimately best intentions, but it won't get past the neck beards and pissed off vets of an illegal war, without a large number of casualties.
For our nation, this is a bad thing.
>>55363892
Nobody has said anything about gun confiscation...
Gun controll usually means regulation, as in standards and what is and isn't proper... storage, for example.
Some states require you to keep your guns locked up when not in use, some states have laws against open carry. etc.
>>55363074
Did you fill out selective service? Congratulations, you qualify in militia. The governor of your state is in charge of it, but it's all based on your natural right of self defense. You defend yourself, likewise your neighbors, so then the community, so then the state. Well regulated, well meaning in depth like a well, and regulated as in regular meaning the same rules apply to everyone in the same chain of command. That's how it seems to be, anyways.
