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Refute it conservakeks. You can't!
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lowest workforce participation rate
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>>55350838
Fuck off
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>>55350990
I do believe OP just got BLOWN THE FUCK OUT
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>>55350990
Fantastico.

Too bad liberals can't into maths.

>>All those charts show GROWTH! Obama = Pro-growth economic policy!
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>>55350838
>The president controls markets
Also, >>55350892 is more important
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>>55350838
>Refute it conservakeks. You can't!

They passed legislation redefining the term "Unemployment" to not include a whole bunch of those who are unemployed.
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People that get cut off of unemployment aren't listed as unemployed, but they're not in the work force either.
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>>55351659
>passed legislation redefining unemployment
Source on this? I understood it was just that labor participation was low, but I don't think labor participation was ever a factor in unemployment.
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>>55350838
worst bait ever
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>>55351355
statistically false dumb conservakek
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>>55350838
if people stop looking for jobs and reported as such they're no longer unemployed since you have to be looking for one to be considered as suck
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>>55350838
>redefine unemployment to exclude people not actively looking for work
>wow magically the unemployment dropped by half, I did great!
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>>55350838
Ok I'll bite, he only counts unemployed as those looking for work actively, anyone that looked for work and gave up due to king Niggers shit job creation/sustaination, is classified as employed.

FUCK OFF KING NIGGER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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You can't debate Obongo's fan club. They are so blinded by Boss Nigger that they simply cannot admit the truth. Trying to change the mind of someone who refuses to be intellectually honest is a gigantic waste of your time.
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>>55351793
The BLS used to consider anyone who wasn't working and completely able who wasn't on disability or welfare as "unemployed"

The recent definition change (I think it was redefined in 2009 and recently changed back in 2015) said only those who actively looked for work within 6 months were unemployed, completely ignoring people who didn't have work, ignoring people who stopped looking beyond 6 months and otherwise
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>implying that after operation choke point, fast and furious, IRS scandal, VA scandal, people actually think the BLS is reporting real job numbers...

tinfoil bs aside. this is more proof that libs don't know economics. this is just the economy going backk to equilibrium and it's doing so in spite of obama.
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>>55350990
/thread
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>>55351793
The labor participation rate is not always measured, so it must be estimated.

When Obama was in his re-election cycle, this assumed rate of participation dropout was kept very steep by BLS - so he was able to achieve fabulous unemployment numbers during the election.

The Aristocrats!
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>2013 Unemployment rate = 37.2%

>https://www.rt.com/business/us-unemployment-economy-crisis-assistance-006/


And that was 2 years ago, it has to be at least 40-50% by now
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>>55351659
>>55351793
There is no law.

They've never counted people NOT looking for a job in the unemployment figures.

Also I love how the jobs numbers get revised to a third of their numbers every time they come out because this commie kike lying nigger government knows you retards will forget and not care about hte old number being a lie.
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>>55350838
Refuted
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lmao literally a geriatric economy
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>>55350990
>Y-axis doesn't even start at 0.

>some of x-axis start at 2006
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>>55350838
>literally moved the goal posts by redefining unemployment and liberals applaud this
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>>55352859

The diferent charts dont chart the same period of time

many of them have been going the wrong way for a long time, before Obama, doesn't mean he is exempt from making it worse.
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>>55350838
Texas and their conservative government leading economic growth.
>bailout GM
>it goes bankrupt again
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>>55351803
I'm betting you have a source to back up your bullshit you lying fucking liar.
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>>55350990
Is there an image for this where the words aren't blurry as hell?
I want to keep it so I can rek Obamadrones.
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>>55351803
He did however, double what was debt at the end of Bush's term, and that was a debt accumulated under many different presidents.
A single man, double the debt that Bush left the office with.
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>>55353609
I'd vote for an honest criminal any day over a dishonest monster.
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>>55350838
>he believes in u3
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Labor force participation stays at a 38-year low http://www.businessinsider.com/labor-force-participation-rate-october-2015-2015-11

Labor Force Participation Remains at 38-Year Low; 94,513,000 Not in Labor Force http://cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/94513000-americans-not-labor-force-participation-rate-remains-38-year-low
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now that this thread has thoroughly raped op.

Gentlemen please have a gander at what Krugman - a hero of the left - thinks about our world view.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-11-09/krugman-doesnt-understand-why-darkness-spreading-over-part-our-society
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>>55350990
>small blurry JPEG image

obama is finished
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>not understanding what "unemployment rate" means in the US
>2015
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>>55354216

No. Now we are going to have to listen to that ass-hat sound off for the next 40 years of his life telling us how we all got it wrong and that he is just a misunderstood genius.

I am quite perturbed at 51% of you.
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>unemployment is low goys!
>but dont look at that labor participation rate!
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Not even us here but surely he was leader 7 years ago so comparing himsekf to hinself is retarded?
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>>55350990
what did you expect from a liberal nigger
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>>55350838
Labor force participation rate is very low, poverty is still high, real unemployment is high.

But you can't really blame Obama for all of these things. Many of these things are the fault of the American people. The American people are the ones underpaying each other and giving all jobs created since 2000 to foreigners.
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>>55351858
Or people that have been looking for too long.
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>>55350990
God Obama sucks!!...
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President does not have that much influence on economy in the near term.

Congress has more influence through the power of the purse.

Under employment and work force participation are at all time highs. So while unemployment is low. Everyone is working crappier jobs or just stopped looking for work.
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>>55350990
source of these please
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>>55357241
found it for those interested

https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/
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I support universal health care to an extent. But conservatives accurately predicted that Obamacare would hurt employment. I'm working a 30 hour a week job because if my company hires me for 31 hours, let alone a full 40 work week, they would be forced to give me healthcare (which I don't even need as I'm on a better, private plan). So while unemployment has gone down, meaningful unemployment has gone up. Tons of jobs are doing this.
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>>55354129
Hey look I crossed out all the facts on this meme and injected my emotional spin.
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Government manufactured statistic that still took 7 years to fall back to the position it was in at the start of his tenure.

Yes, keep touting this. It shows how much of an abject failure Obama truly is.
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>>55350838
Unemployment is literally 28%

92 million people are unemployed.
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>>55358298
he crossed out emotional spin and injected facts. Quit trying to dictate reality to people you faggot.
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>>55358455
He literally crossed out verifiable numbers and herp derped bullshit in place of them
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>>55358569
Verified by willfully misrepresented statistics, you mean.
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>>55350838
>changes the way unemployment figures are gathered

28%

he's also lied about every pre-election promise
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>>55350838
What is the point of low unemployment if everyone is still crying for minimum wage and whining about income inequality?

Why do Liberals always ignore those two things? Same with consumer confidence and buying power
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>>55354129
The companies on the DOW 30 from 2008 and today should also be listed under DOW Jones. Apple and Goldman Sachs, the biggest and one of the biggest corporations in the world, are now on the DOW 30

Same with Quantitative Easing, if any dumbfuck Liberals know what that is
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So far, replies ignore the shitty pay cuts taken to get back in a job as well.
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>>55350838
>full time is no 30 hours or more
>working full time you get health benefits

I'd love to know how many people have multiple jobs
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>>55359173
*now 30
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>>55350838

https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:US_Federal_Reserve_balance_sheet_total.png
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>>55357690
Please give me the list of the 9 images there. I wasn't going to do it, but fuck it. People need to see this. It's really that simple. I can Photoshop it into a real quick high res version
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>>55358860
The U3 has never changed lying faggot
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>>55359320
Half of them are bitching about baby boomers retiring, figures we expected for the last 50 years.

The other half are either bitching about food stamps bevause Congress has refused to raise the minimum wage in 6 years, cherry picking dates or irrelevant when factoring inflation
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I will nitpick some good ones I find
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Woooooooo 5% unemployment we're living high!!!

>forgetting that part times are now the norm, full time is a luxury or for warehouse workers through agencies
>forgetting that discouraged workers fall out of the statistic and are no longer part of the work force, thus making the number smaller.
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>>55359800
Yes just post the screenies one by one and I'll churn it out super quick
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>>55355317
What about Satan Obama?
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>>55359800
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>>55350838
>cant find work for 9 months
>no longer part of the workforce
>no longer "unemployed"
>still live in destitute poverty
>can only survive on unsustainable government handouts
>repeat for 35% of the population
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>>55350838
They redefined "unemployment", hell trump could say anyone on welfare is employed by the government and bam, all time low.
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>>55360026
T-that wasn't his fault. It was that bubble burst in 08 shitlords.
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Great job everybody. /pol/ is back
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>>55360494

What happened to OP? I wonder what he thinks of these figures. Does he even into the Federal Reserve?
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OP pic would be impressive if it was 2009 but its 2015. yea he hasnt reduced to pre his administration levels

and the department of labor and statistics a government agency disputes the federally tracked unemployment %. according to them and the irs more like 30% of the population is unemployed now days
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HOW IS FRED ALLOWED TO BE SO RACIST????
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>>55359875
dasdw
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>>55357241
Through the blurs I can make out Bureau of Labor Statistics for one of them
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>>55350990
>https://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/graph/

not so fast... blaming Obama for:

>student loans, as if Obama forced students to take out loans... the govt has a better chance of fighting private industries' usury and student loans for fake for-profit colleges

>food stamps, LOL, it was Obama who wants minimal wage increases. yet you dumbfucks claim that minimal wage "shuts down industries"

>federal debt - cue the retards, blame poor people AGAIN, despite the billions corporations evade in taxes, and i thought u fags LOVED writing blank checks to the DoD for "muh freedoms": Here goes our debt

Army $244.9 billion 31.8%
Navy $149.9 billion 23.4% excluding Marine Corps
Marine Corps $40.6 billion 4% Total Budget taken allotted from Department of Navy

Air Force $170.6 billion 22%

Defense Intelligence $80.1 billion 3.3% Because of classified nature, budget is an estimate and may not be the actual figure
Defense Wide Joint Activities $118.7 billion 15.5%

We need war, so Europe enjoy your refugees!!!!!

Food stamps - $80 billion (the price of defense intel alone)

health care/insurance cost - are we REALLY blaming Obamacare for this? Affordable care was enacted to fight the trend of healthcare's price gouge

Thank the God of Equality and Capitalism for Labor Force, Workers Share, and Median Family income

Home Ownershiip - your wall st this bubble to burst

I'll let your autistic mind blame Obama and your self-satisfying "stats".. the easiest answer for your ilk
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>>55359875
How many more do you want?
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>>55350990
whoa hi there socialism long time no see
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>>55360792

And yet if you completely obliterate ALL defense spending, US would still be borrowing billions upon billions upon billions just for entitlements and gibsmedat. Every time some fag goes "muh defense spending" you just KNOW they have no idea how the spending of the US government actually breaks down.

"The American Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." - Alexis de Tocqueville

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u24nH03NccI

Video for proofs, alternatively google it fag.
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>>55360844
>>55360932
stop with the bullshit...

blaming African Americans yet you're the dumbfucks who think its a "secret power" to be dumbfuck racist who, when seeing a resume with non-traditional American name or seeing that they're black, immediately tap into that autist mind (like youre doing now) and not hire them or make their life a living hell.. as if one should not extrapolate your kind not taking vengeance of Obama's election out on minorities.. as seen by the FBI's report on the increasing trend of national hate groups and participation since Obama was elected..

Sex and race discrimination.. go back to crying about how interracial Star Wars has a secret plot to overthrow whitey
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>>55361520
You literally know nothing about me.
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>>55361149
>US would still be borrowing billions upon billions upon billions just for entitlements and gibsmedat

sure, blame Obama for decades of borrowing.. the govt never lived by any example you hold common folks to...

Make that Defense check out to the EU for taking your war refugees, clearly your own poor's not worthy
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>>55361587
your kind is sickening as any other public show of degeneracy and lunacy
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unemployment =/= increased well being

>At one of our dinners, Milton recalled traveling to an Asian country in the 1960s and visiting a worksite where a new canal was being built. He was shocked to see that, instead of modern tractors and earth movers, the workers had shovels. He asked why there were so few machines. The government bureaucrat explained: “You don’t understand. This is a jobs program.” To which Milton replied: “Oh, I thought you were trying to build a canal. If it’s jobs you want, then you should give these workers spoons, not shovels.”
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>>55361805
>you guys are wrong
>this anecdote proves it
k
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>>55362044
it kinda does, though.

and if you cannot grasp this simple concept I suggest you call me a shill and a part of the Jewish conspiracy and move on to study some complex /pol/ infographics full of knowledge :^)
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>>55362172
Ok, you need to look at this >>55360213
then read up on share buybacks. You have a very marginal understanding of how US economy works and bringing up meme-tier anecdotes about digging with spoons only shows that you're retarded X-DDD
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>>55350838
>Thinking the President has much power over the economy
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>>55362349

employing unemployed people and calling it "reducing unemployment" has nothing to do with your post. Just stop please.
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>>55362607
No worries, they'll keep getting handouts from the state.
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>>55362373
it's really the fed. President is just a puppet for the big spenders and the fed. Nobody want to cut spending on anything which is why Ron Paul was blacked out twice
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>>55362860
It's Janet Yellen way more than it is Obama.
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>>55362373
This
>>55350838
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solyndra
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Taking one full-time job and regulating it into two part time jobs isn't job creation. Obvious fraud.
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>making everybody work
>not terror
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>who, when seeing a resume with non-traditional American name or seeing that they're black, immediately tap into that autist mind (like youre doing now) and not hire them or make their life a living hell..

even if this is true, why would people have such bias I wonder.
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Demographically, the most new jobs went to the over-55 age folks — grocery baggers and Walmart greeters and the fewest to men 25 to 54 that bracket substantially lost jobs.
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