I still don't get what the big deal is about women having sexual liberty. Why shouldn't anyone be allowed to have sex how much they want and with whoever they want, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone? How does such freedom harm society at all?
Avoid these women if you don't like them but don't get all bent out of shape and go Nazi priest mode because some people live in the 21st century and actually want to enjoy their lives.
>>55337670
It's ironically women that hate sexual liberty and men that take the blame for hating sex. How many men do you really know that hate sex besides religious fags?
>don't get all bent out of shape and go Nazi priest mode because some people live in the 21st century and actually want to enjoy their lives
nobody is doing that
>>55337670
Give people freedom and they'll make mistakes
Women want sexual liberty and freedom from consequences FOR THEMSELVES... they don't like others (men or women) to have it.
>>55337883
Not so fast, Hans.
>>55337670
Because sex has consequences that affect everyone.
Because, as they have shown, women are irresponsible little children and cant handle freedom
They dont know how to inhibit their emotional and biological urges
By making everything accessible to them, we teach them that they can have what they want whenever they want.
Oh you're horny? Here's some dick. Oh, don't worry about the consequences, we've got std treatments, morning after pills and abortions. And if you decide not to use those, you can get your partner to pay you money because of your dumb decisions.
Women can never be trusted with an inch of responsibility, because they're not responsible.
>>55337979
No it doesn't. It only concerns those who have sex together.
>>55337979
There is this thing called a condom.
>>55338128
Post your feeling when you learned that even the Norsemen were misogynists
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/havamal.html
83.
The speech of a maiden should no man trust
nor the words which a woman says;
for their hearts were shaped on a whirling wheel
and falsehood fixed in their breasts.
Who would have fucking thought this huh? I though misogyny was just a Greek/Hebrew thing.
>>55337670
>Avoid these women if you don't like them but don't get all bent out of shape and go Nazi priest mode because some people live in TWENTY FIFTEEN
>>55338472
Yes, let's take advice from the half naked muscle warriors who travel together for years cuddling on boats for 'warmth'.
>>55337670
>some people live in the 21st century
ikr, i mean its 2015 for god sake
>>55337670
The problem is we can't objectify them without being called a rapist.
>>55338787
weed lmao
Controlling yourself is good, in any case. The current year doesn't mean stick every dick you see in your body.
>>55338684
pfffft you can't make faggy little reductions about the Greeks and the Hebrew/Christians too and they were misogynists as well. idgaf bruh I only care that all these guys had one thing in common and it's their similar views on women and women's freedom.
>>55338643
Anyone else think this fool looks like the white version of Clockmed?
>>55338159
>>55338328
You will both understand more when you are not teenagers.
Authoritarians are control freaks. Left or right, you are both cancer.
>>55337670
it always hurts somebody faggot. usually through accidental pregnancy or rampant STDs
>>55338128
this. hell even the story of adam and eve is there to show that women cannot resist temptation. They have always been this way and always will. The real enemy though, is the men who enable them. It's a waste of time to hate on women for being what they are.
>>55338472
Well, their words appear to be correct at least.
>>55338842
You'll understand if you actually have sex. Oh, who am I kidding LOL
>>55339098
>LOL
>>55339098
Niger I was putting my cock in puss when you were in elementary school. I have a child now.
You obviously haven't lived very long as an "adult" if you honestly see no problem in promiscuous lifestyle. It could be that I've lived that kind of life long enough to know it goes nowhere.
panty > stocking
GUYS IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR
>>55339257
Oh you're such a responsible adult and yet you mystify sex like some virgin. Guess some people are doomed to be losers lmfao
>>55337670
> live in the 21st century
> 'it's 2015' argument
>>55339407
>mystify sex
nobody is mystifying sex you dumb nerd
>>55338927
So are you saying that the bible is real and scientifically factual?
>>55339257
>It could be that I've lived that kind of life long enough to know it goes nowhere.
>You have a kid.
Pick one.
Because female hypergamy have no limits, once she gets a big fish, she wants a bigger fish.
>Why keep dating a millionaire businessman when I can date a famous millionaire athlete?
Women will use their appearance to fuck the highest value males they can find, since they cannot keep their commitment once they hit the wall, becoming old, saggy and ugly, they either find a nobody to enjoy the leftovers or stay delusional trying to have top quality men
In the end only alpha males get all the pussy, both the betas and women end up mostly alone and unhappy.
This is why sexual liberation is a mistake, this is why sluts should be shamed for having hundreds of beta orbiters while giving famous musicians blowjobs on an alley. This is why women should be shamed for writing love letters for serial killers and having sex with them in prison while their kekold husbands try to take care of their kids.
Sluts can single-handedly destroy civilization, because they turn men into retards who only care about looking for sex and acquiring status, they spend money, time and effort into acquiring high quality pussy and the birth rates plummet.
You either put sluts in line or watch as society crumbles.
>>55339539
Can't read? He's saying it's allegorical. It's wrong about women though: Eve was strong and intelligent and knew she deserved more than what God was offering.
>>55337670
> Sexual liberty
> Get's mad when a guy doesn't want her STD's
There's a difference between sexual liberty and being careless.
>>55339767
>Eve was strong and intelligent
What? How?
>>55339767
That is quite possibly the most retarded thing I've ever read on /pol/, and that's saying something.
>>55339767
>Eve was strong and intelligent and knew she deserved more than what God was offering
One thing that people forgot in the last century is that self control is a good thing.
People believe too much that they will find happiness and a fulfilling life by having a lot of pleasure, be it sexual, chemical or whatever. As the Greeks knew 2,000 years ago, this is not the case. You will not find happiness with this kind of lifestyle.
Your average celibate monk is likely much happier than PUAs.
Women that have sex with many men are worse wives and mothers. They are more likely to divorce, cheat and also tend to be less happy. The problem with women being promiscuous is not only that this will lead to them being unhappy. It is that it will lead to a next generation of broken kids. Someone that feels her personal pleasure is the most important thing in life will be a shitty mother that will have kids with the same values.
>>55339621
which part don't you understand?
>>55337979
If Laquisha shits out 12 niglets who the fuck do you think pays for their welfare you fucking retard? WE THE TAXPAYERS DO.
Fuck that.
The funny thing is that women are the ones that will end up the worst, because the beta male are at least used to loneliness and not being desired, but after spending a decade looking good and getting so much validation and attention, women will turn into a shadow of their former selves and spend basically 80% of their lifetime being miserable because they actually thought all those alphas fucking them and all those comments from stalkers on facebook were from people who actually cared about them, once these bitches realize they are old and alone they freak out, they have no friends and no children to take care of, no real legacy.
>>55339886
Eve wasn't tempted, she saw an opportunity to became greater no matter the consequences. She rejected being God's eternal child.
>>55337670
I wouldnt care if they would shut the fuck up about finding a decent guy after fucking the whole block. its like when black people question why whites dont come to their neighborhoods, and the jump white people for coming into their neighborhood
>>55338840
Cannot be unseen now
>>55340094
I think that was sort of the point he was making, but he was including all races in it.
You're free to do whatever you want, just don't expect a man to come and pick up the pieces of your fucked up life.
I go out drinking with friends once every two weeks when schedules allow, oftentimes at the bar someone in our group will be approached by a woman, sometimes groups of women who want to hook up. Nine times out of ten they are incredibly trashy and promiscuous and, once you get a few drinks in them, admit to having sexual histories a mile long and alot of the times having kids at home. Hell, one time some aging slut tried to mack on my friend when she was clearly still wearing a wedding or engagement ring. They're sluts sure, and I know men who are just as guilty of having numerous one night stands, but the "loose and free" image they're presenting is a lie. They really want to suck up your money and have you take care of their kids.
Never trust a single mother.
>>55340088
How you're retarded for not getting a vasectomy.
>>55337765
The fuck are you talking about? Women want to sleep around and have men pay for everything for them.
>>55337895
Take away freedom and they'll never learn from these mistakes.
>>55338840
holy shit thats why his face is so punchable.
>>55337883
Men aren't. Other women are. Especially the feminists, they will kill to defend their own sexual freedoms but also kill to suppress those exact same freedoms when other women try to enjoy them.
>>55338159
...and the child they spawn. It will either get cut to pieces as a fetus or it'll go for adoption in a group home. And if it's never born and there's no pregnancy, there's always the risk of STDs. Only gay condom sex is acceptable for irresponsible, unmarried teens.
>>55338328
That takes away all the feel...
For some people it's a religious moral issue. For others, it's simply because we don't like women too used up.
I'm all for the freedom to slut it up, but I wouldn't mind a culture of slut shaming either.
>>55340197
Greater as in what? Independent strong woman? Non-conformist?
I mean, what did she accomplish by rejecting God?
Image is relevant.
>>55340330
>>55337670
In an ideal world everyone would benefit from it, but instead we end up with female hypergamy where Chads get all the girls and anyone average or below can enjoy being a permavirgin.
SFW version so I don't get b&
>>55340478
She made a statement: Women are not a man's inferior and you better start taking them seriously.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AMmOAd2FVrE
>>55340481
That's a shit analogy, its just better to realize that the double standard originated separately than trying to rationalize it as women are locking something valuable that has to be protected.
![53c1a213c3caea606293ca9664ec4889[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/v5d8NKi.jpg "53c1a213c3caea606293ca9664ec4889[1].jpg")
>>55339767
Eve was a fucking whore giving herself up like that to the jew-snake.
>>55337670
A woman has the right to sleep with whomever they want.
I have the right to tell them to fuck off when they inevitably come on to me when they see my ring, my car, and my lifestyle.
>>55340475
The problem is the current culture, that glorifies promiscuity and makes people think sex is the key to happiness.
But then...
http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2015/oct/10/neil-strauss-the-game-book-truth
>Indeed, in the decade since the book’s publication, he has been through all manner of personal difficulties – periods of therapy, loneliness, heartbreak, depression.
This is a guy that: had sex with as many women as he wanted. Had fame. Men admired him. Had money. He lived a life of pleasure. And was a trainwreck.
His "master" in his book was depressed and suicidal.
Correlation does not imply causation, but porn stars have very sexually liberated lives. They are also incredible trainwrecks, with huge drug problems.
>>55340197
So Eve got greedy, spat in the face of the most powerful being in existence, and ruined the only chance at paradise for herself and her only partner.
Smart.
>>55340315
Good one bro. You really got me with a zinger there.
>>55337670
>Why shouldn't anyone be allowed
No one is stopping you. No one ever stopped you.
What was stopped was the social acceptance of that behavior. Now that it's normalized, look what is happening around you.
This is the issue, not peoples' liberty.
>>55340677
I'm pretty sure the snake was black and alluded to white make insecurity about their penis size desu
>>55340633
Bull fucking shit. Women will always be inferior to man, why the fuck do you think men are life and women are death. They only can respect life when they have a baby.
This is biblical fucking law.
>>55337670
> I give you a single cookie. You love it. Then I give you a box of cookies. You are thrilled! Then I give you a single cookie again. Suddenly the value of the single cookie has dropped, because having many cookies makes you take the single cookie for granted.
Don't you see how when you experience something too much, your sense of satisfaction is dulled. You can apply this to human relationships as well.
Go drive out on a lonely country road, where you see perhaps one other driver per hour. That one car is interesting, because you don't experience a passing too often out in the country. I don't think people in the city realize that often people in the country wave at each other as they pass by.
Now go to the city. There are so many cars, they turn out to be a nusance. The sight of a car is tedious, because it is so common place.
Apply this principle to friendships, romance, sex, sadness, happiness, grief, altruism, heroism...
Because they still want to get married and get pissed that no one wants to wife up a used up cunt
>>55337670
Because they show it off as much as fags at a pride parade.
>>55337670
>ooga booga muh dick
Humanity need to transcend its shitty biological urges.
>>55337670
I love Twilight Sparkle!
>>55337670
Stocking best girl.
>>55337670
Women can be as sexually liberal as they wish.
I for one, enjoy eye candy, but candy isn't as good as steak.
Plenty of steak out there gents.
>>55340759
Maybe Yahweh should have used something besides a rib.
>>55338328
Condoms suck
>>55340094
Lol what point do you think I was trying to make? Re read what I wrote
>>55339286
Somethin wrong in your head son? That aint right.
>>55339407
He has a child you dont
Technically your the loser
How many women are willing to bear children for you?
I'm tired of expecting other genders and races to have accountability and forethought for their actions and being seen as a sexist or racist. I'm sick of expecting and hoping the best for others and being labeled a hateful bigot.
Maybe I'm just old fashioned but I feel everybody has a God given value and they're throwing it away for useless material possessions and fleeting pleasure.
>>55337670
For the last time, nobody cares if women are sluts. Men will fuck them just as readily. They can do whatever the fuck they want. Most of the people that slut shame are other women.
The problem is that these women turn around and wonder why men won't marry them and settle down with them just because they have sucked 100 dicks.
You are free to do whatever you want, but you are not free from consequence. Marrying a whore is a bad, bad life decision, and most men intuitively know this.
That said, I can empathize for the people on /pol/ who believe women should not be allowed to fuck over their own lives like this, and that women should be controlled to some extent because they are important to society and we do not want them to destroy it. What /pol/ tends to get upset over is not the women themselves, but the cultural marxist agenda that encourages these women to be whores to their own detriment.
>>55337670
But the feminists are the ones bitching about this
>>55340633
She's not man's inferior because she screwed over man and herself?
What?
"I'll make both of our lives miserable compared to the literal paradise we're in. Hahaha, now I am your equal."
What?
>>55340599
>Met girl who was a single mother
>She was married but the husband died in Iraq
>Honestly a wonderful person
>Breaks up with me for "your own good"
>Acts like a fucking martyr about it
>"But I love you"
>She doesn't care
>She goes out and gets knocked up by some random ass guy at school less than a week later
>Wants me back
This all happened like 5 years ago
God help me I still love her. Coulda married that girl in a heartbeat. Love sucks
>>55340340
Only if they experience negative social or financial repercussions from said mistakes.
>>55341219
Thats awful if she was will to get an abortion and have YOUR child you should of kept her
She screwed up not you
>>55337670
It would be fine if our countries weren't full of fucking minorities.
>>55337670
>as long as it doesn't hurt anyone
roflmao -
thanks, your 2 sisters were great, as was your mama and wife
hey no problem freedumb bruh
btw was business trip have fubn raising the superior seed brats, you'll never find me - freedom is free for me !
>>55341345
This non-white men have to go be deported they are destroying everything
>>55339767
Even if this is just trolling, there are plenty of people who agree with this.
God have mercy upon us.
>>55339514
actually most "betas" and virgins do put the pussy on a pedastal
Michrochimerism. Every load a whore swallows changes her dna. Nobody talks about it because every whore would be btfo and the feminist agenda would crumble.
>>55337670
Anon, on the surface of it there's nothing wrong with it. Sure stick your dick in things or stick things in you, however it feels good do it. Why not, right? Who's it hurting?
Well it hurts a couple of things. For one, sex distracts from higher pursuits... like science, literature, politics, and so on. Eventually human needs kick in and you gotta get off but focusing on higher things makes you a better person, not only for yourself but society.
The other reason is simply pair bonding. Eventually you're going to get older and progressively less sexually appealing... this hits women harder but a lot of guys go bald and whatnot. It will harder to find lots of willing partners, and having become used to that it will be harder to form the kind of strong bond that lies at the core of a good family.
Also, all the usual arguments of STDs, pregnancy, etc...
>>55341219
https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2013/04/03/the-most-dangerous-word-love/
>>55341333
She was not willing and the fucked up thing is she WAS going to have my kid but there was an accident and that didn't happen. Some bullshit with vitamin supplements
I feel like shit for not being able to look passed the bastard kid but I just couldn't bring myself to do it
>>55339767
>>55340197
>>55340633
I've never read the Bibble but,
wasn't she literally manipulated into eating the fruit by a fucking worm?
I think the real question here is why God made the fruit to begin with if no one was supposed to eat it
>>55337670
Because women are retarded and don't know when to stop.
>>55337670
>utterly stupid
>pursue of carnal desire
>STDs, pregnancy, complicated relationships, pervertion
How many religions will we have to make for you to understand it's bad?
>>55341567
God is an asshole, trust me, I've read the bible.
>>55341567
The tree itself was the tree of knowledge of good and evil. There was nothing wrong with the tree or fruit itself. God commanded them to not eat from it, Eve disobeyed God and gave into temptation, releasing evil and sin upon Earth.
>>55341419
>tfw people who watch the film are lost to the irony of the statement
>>55339286
Scanty >= Kneesocks > Stocking > Panty
But do what you want, I'm not your mom.
>>55341866
>The tree itself was the tree of knowledge of good and evil. There was nothing wrong with the tree or fruit itself
Why didn't God make the tree of knowledge a pine tree
>>55341219
>Crush on a girl
>we finally get together
>she starts doing drugs
>starts hanging around her dealer alot more
>suddenly find her with her dealer
>worst breakup of my life
>run into her the other day, this is almost 10 years later
>she has a kid, lives at her parents and has a drug problem
Its hard man, its really hard
>>55341937
What difference would the properties of the tree have made?
>>55339407
>manchild who will never have a family thinks all women should be sluts because all he wants is the chance of getting some action
newsflash, kid, the sluts will not have sex with average joes like you
>>55342055
Ain't nobody eating pinecones dipshit.
>>55338839
Some people living 1000s of years ago showed broadly similar ideas based on different cultural understandings...
Evidence enough for me.
Now, about that circumcision/flat earth/multiple gods affecting everyday life.
Ffs.
>>55339286
She is. Stocking was made to be freakier, meaner and have horrendous taste in men, yet neckbeards still slobber over her. It's hilarious.
>>55342055
Snek wouldn't have tempted Eve to eat pinecones
>>55341822
RARE FLAG
Also, who the fuck takes religion seriously anymore. Fuck off with your christfaggotry
>>55342114
There's nuts in the cones, dipshit.
>>55342134
See above.
Snake could have got them to smoke the leaves of the tree, make tea out of the leaves and cones and drink that, drink the sap of the tree, etc. The properties of the tree make no difference.
>>55339747
I doubt OP will counter the exemplary argument, and you'll be ignored because too true
>>55342088
Women have sex with me because I don't have a stick up my ass. Keep buying into whine9k high school stereotypes, that'll help you lol
>>55337670
>fags still falling for this bait thread every fucking day
we really need to establish a standardized response image
>>55337670
>>55342281
>drink the sap of the tree
Hardcore
>The properties of the tree make no difference
How about a baobab
>>55337670
Sexual liberty is fine. I believe in freedom.
Freedom implies both good and bad consequences.
The bad consequences is we have a hypersexualized culture where women objectify themselves. Divorce rates are at an all time high. IDK what it is. Sometimes I think perhaps it is because women are new to sexual liberation and they've gone full retard embracing it. Men have been more or less sexually liberated for a while and so male culture has already matured on sex and are familiar with it. Therefore, men are less obsessed with sex (it loses its novelty quicker for us), we have many more years of experience understanding that sex is tied into relationships and emotions, we understand how unrestrained sexual gratification leads to instant gratification, narcissism, lack of priorities, disregard for sexual partners, and a hostile oversexualized culture.
Women don't realize that they are more responsible for the hostile relationship and sexual culture than men. They encourage rape culture (look at 50 shades), they can't recognize womanizers as counterproductive to their cause, they objectify themselves leading to the sort of societal focus on the so called unattainable image of beauty and make them and other women sex objects. Their culture revolves around supporting other women to be pretty and sexy to the point that another woman can be blatantly dressing whoring and acting provocatively around their own boyfriend and they wouldn't realize it because they are too scared to call another woman out. Young girls as early as middle school are picking up on the toxic female culture that revolves around female sexuality. Women tie so much of their personal identity in their sexuality and their body that by age 25, they hardly developed mature virtuous qualities to support the rest of their 75% of their life. Narcissism is seen as normal and encouraged. They can not rise above the stereotypes they sought to break from because their culture is superficial.
>>55342307
ugly chicks do not count
>>55342400
>>55342402
beat me to it
>>55342160
>who the fuck takes religion seriously anymore?
Jews, that's why they're dominating you, stupid unreligious people.
>>55337670
I don't to raise a family with a woman that's had 50 other dicks inside her and has washed her hair, face, and mouth with their cum. I don't want my kids to kiss her cum guzzled mouth, nor would I even bother to waste my time on her.
>>55342872
What's Japan's religion? Shinto Buddhism? I don't hear much about it
remember the Jews fear the samurai
>>55343006
Japan is fucked up. They're into all kind of religions, Buddhism, shintoism but I think the biggest religion of japan is little girl's panties.
>>55337670
Anyone has the right to sleep with anyone as much as they want. And others have a right to personally judge them.
>>55340481
I like this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VTtLCaUNMc
>>55337670
>I still don't get what the big deal is about women having sexual liberty.
Sexual liberty is degeneracy, regardless of gender.
>>55339767
>Eve knew more than God
are you sure you've read this book
2015 the post
>>55342585
cont:
They can not rise above the stereotypes they sought to empower themselves out of because their culture is superficial, does not hold itself to a high standard, coddles itself out of any criticism, is infected with victim complex.
Some of this will be redundant. I've never attempted to articulate my full thoughts on the matter but it concerns me. I'm not full betamax. I should explain that I was raised by strong women in my family. My grandmother is probably the person I hold the utmost respect for and look up to. That is why I don't like kissing millennial girls' asses. I know what strong empowered female is. So I don't buy into the bs.
Let's look at one of the reasons we see so few female geniuses and influencers of progress in society. As I have stated earlier, the female culture is toxic to young girls. Look at every pop idol. Look at Jezebel. The website loves to suck Katy Perry's clit. Don't they realize that Katy Perry is the furthest thing from self conscious feminist heroine? Don't they realize she sets them back by playing into the same bimbo pop star role that functions by profiting off of the ogling of men? These are the pop idols little girls look up to and their music videos are filled with them objectifying themselves. You don't see many female musical geniuses because female culture is so shallow. Women think that objectifying themselves is empowerment. It is their most empowering characteristic because women learn from early on that they can skate through life by being pretty and winning favors from men who find them attractive. They don't realize this puts them cyclically right back in the same rut they've been trying to get out of. This is why so many female entertainers make their entire act about how racy they can be. It isn't just because men want this. Men can find sexy images of women everywhere. We have no need to monetarily support some shitty pop artist in order to get our rocks off.
Because the women who have multiple partners are less trustworthy, less honest, and far, far more likely to cheat.
Enabling this behavior is, in itself, degenerate.
>>55343565
>>55343678
>>55343701
>>55339747
I'm just going to copy this for first post for all future threads on this topic.
>>55339767
>Eve was strong and intelligent and knew she deserved more than what God was offering
If she was smart she would've known eternal Eden is better than dying.
>>55337670
because it creates a society filled with soulless, isolated, hedonist consumer-units instead of stable families
>>55341565
>I feel like shit for not being able to look passed the bastard kid but I just couldn't bring myself to do it
So moral standards, whiteness, means you feel bad about it... LIKE FUCKING HELL
she knew she was a slut and no good for you
she immediately went hunting cock
she crawled back preggy and begging LOL
ROFLMAO\
GOODBYE FOREVER YOU STUPID FUCKI NG SLUT
>>55342808
This is quite interesting, well worth the read.
>>55343843
>>55343807
Shes a woman she ate the apple because Satan as a snake had alot of game.
>>55343916
yeah it's possibly one of the best gender redpill documents out there
>>55343752
I actually saved my own post so I don't have to re-explain everything over and over again everytime someone comes with "there's nothing wrong with sluts" shit.
>>55344007
>>55344030
seriously
we get the same fucking thread every day
there needs to be a standard, image-based reply
Ever since I was little I always felt that sex was a sacred bonding ritual between two people in love. Even when I felt shamed for being a virgin when all my friends were not, I felt it was wrong of them to simply fuck if they got the chance. Even now as I approach Wizardhood, I still feel I was right by not randomly fucking.
>>55343475
cont.
Women's obsession with shallow displays of edgy fashion and racy music videos is the equivalent of males who think they are redpilled because they go out of their way to remind themselves and others about all the edgiest shit in the world. Female culture is obsessed with the display and as long as they remain so, they will not foster support for an enlighten substantive renaissance of female artistic elevated consciousness. Their most popular idols are superficial edgelords. Look at all female media and you'll see that it is filled with sex and drama. This kind of culture is never satisfied and fulfilled because none of these things are transcendental. And the sad thing is they don't realize their culture just perpetuates a system that socializes young girls to fill the box of sex object.
Their culture in general is anti-intellectual and anti-virtuous. It's hardly different than inner city hood culture in that most individuals raised in this culture will be socialized to agree with it. It is likely just as hard for the exceptional female who can't stand this bullshit to rise above it because she will alienate herself and develop insecurities for being different ("there must be something wrong with me")
I was reading some of the comment section of Jezebel and one thing that boggles my mind is how many commenters regurgitate that they have to wear heels, a skirt, makeup, and dress up in order to look professional. This was the excuse given as to why they feel the need to objectify themselves/ or focus so much on their physical attributes. I don't buy this excuse. I don't think anyone actually thinks you are unprofessional for not wearing makeup, a pencil skirt, and high heels. No one, that is, except women. In fact, I think most men would likely take you less seriously, because it would appear you are attempting to use your looks to win favor instead of letting the content of your character speak for itself.
>>55342834
In my experience, "society" does not hate sluts, BUT, women that "slut shame" are actually extremely based in real life. I've seen it with my own eyes. Don't overlook a woman you see slut shaming, they may indeed be great people who you can engage in a serious relationship with.
>>55342055
>What difference would the properties of the tree have made?
THE RELEVANT property of the tree was the opening of the eyes and the realization of sin and nakedness and debauchery and DEATH
who cares if it was a Euell Gibbons pine cone
>>55337670
Luke 17:1-2
And he said to his disciples, “Temptations to sin are sure to come, but woe to the one through whom they come! It would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck and he were cast into the sea than that he should cause one of these little ones to sin."
>>55344052
although i do agree, males are generally better than women at society building and surviving, i would argue this tv show based on who they picked
the men they picked were, men. proper guys who do guy things. they naturally were gonna be men about the situation and sort shit out. they had all worked in their lives and so had a work ethic driving them.
the women seem to all be pampered and never worked a day in their life sort of women. they have no work ethic because theyve never worked so they dont have the drive to make them want to hunt, build and sort stuff out.
i would argue, that if the women chosen were instead working women, women who havent got by on good looks alone, they'd fair better. and likewise, if a bunch of queer little fashion models or dancers filled the male island, theyd end up suffering.
>>55339747
I just realized (as I have before) that women complain so much of a STIGMA and complain about it being "nature".
1. Things like rape and killing children that are not yours are natural.
2. We have been LEGALLY curbing men's nature by means of child support and alimony. We have literally forced laws upon men to keep our beast sexuality intact and yet women complain about a stigma.
The narcissism/self absorption is astonishing.
>>55344222
In short sexual liberation has caused female culture to go full retard because they think they're biggest revolution is their sexual liberation. They don't realize they've long matched male sexual liberation and now all they look like are sex obsessed children (I'm talking about mental maturity here) pushing the envelope. I think thou dost protest too much.
They want to break the chains of being sex objects and yet their entire culture, their entire philosophy, self identity, and scholarly transcendence is wrapped around sex.
At this point a matriarchal society would be far more focused on sex and far more discriminatory because most would not be able to match their ridiculous standards of status (which happen to be far more superficial).
>>55343202
I think that is an over simplification. But its comedy, so whatever.
For one I don't particularly like studs, they tend to be chads and heart breakers.
Sluts, eh... I think the difference between a sexually liberated women and slut exists.
If a girl really likes dicks (and/or vaginas) and takes it like a hentai character simply because she likes sex that much, then all power to her.
If its a women who just likes the attention and rewards from sleeping around, that's a slut.
>>55343731
Hah whore
>>55343139
It's called shimapnism
>>55338159
sex = babies
Sex = drama with people that grow (not surprisingly) emotionally attached to you
Sex = spread of STDs
i am not religious idiot but limiting ones partners is just practical advice. It's not there to control you or condemn you but to say sex has no consequences is ridiculous.
>>55343731
read this before
bitch deserved it
>>55340930
Absolutely this.
>>55340930
nothing wrong with biological urges in the confines of a monogamous consensual partnership
everything else is catholic level guilt tripping garbage
what is the OP pic from?
>>55337979
Exactly right.
>>55338159
Liberal, teenager or a retard.
>>55338328
Which can and do fail and are not guaranteed to be used. They suck for the man and women who are already in a position to fuck are easily suggestible, especially if they like you.
You morons make light of something that is literally used as a method of conceiving a whole new life: a living, sentient form of consciousness that once born will be having a human experience.
I hate these stupid myopic arguments about "If it's two consenting adults, surely it doesn't hurt anyone!" Every action you take in the real world has consequences. Just like you shouldn't treat any of your other adult responsibilities lightly, neither should you treat sex. Promiscuity is high risk for STDs and accidental pregnancies and this isn't something revolutionary, obfuscated, generally not present in the decision making process of most adults and it's certainly not an abstract idea.
It's great that you faggots want people to "be free" and "enjoy themselves as long as it doesn't hurt anybody", but it doesn't work that way as a constituent member of society. Just like buying drugs trades money between dirty hands and puts funds in the pockets of morally suspect people, just like consuming those drugs over a prolonged period (even just once is often enough) has negative effects on your body and your cognitive functions, abusing sex, being promiscuous and not being prudent has its share of consequences.
No one cares who's out fucking who, no one's trying to stop them. They absolutely can "do what they want", but it is not conducive to a stable and healthy society. It leads to a diseased population, unhappy social dynamics between men and women because everybody deep down just wants to have someone who gives a shit about them, accidental pregnancies and single mothers. This is just one aspect of modern living that goes against nuclear family, a sense of belonging and healthy relationships between the sexes.
>>55337670
it's a matter of honor, a concept that most women don't seem to have. I like to call it a double-double mentality; Slut vs. stud argument cover for the real argument. We want no responsibilities.
I get horny enough where i'd be willing to fuck degenerate women, but I won't act on it, I'd rather be disease free and guilt free.
>>55344631
these shows always pick "average LA people" or their equivalent
the men and women are both drawn from the same background and social sphere
I can't necessarily speak to this exact TV show, but that is generally how it works
Sluts don't make good wives
>>55337670
I feel like you haven't explored the bounds of
"as long as it doesn't hurt anyone"
The reality is we can't maintain a decent standard of living if those are the rules. The reality is we are at war and perpetual play time for everyone isn't gonna create capable individuals.
>>55344204
>as I approach Wizardhood
wut ?
>>55345556
I am anti-promiscuity and I agree though, a husband and wife should be allowed to go wild together with each other if they feel like it. OP was talking about girls getting gangbanged and swallowing Chad cum on a regular basis, though.
>>55344712
The stigma is not real though. Outside of sluts typing on the Internet how "society" shames them for having sex, it really doesn't actually happen.
>>55346307
Hikikomori past the point of no return desu
>>55346307
>>55346025
How about that divorce rate and the multiple divorce rate.
the two lying sex goobers swear to stay faithful through good and bad till death...
then of course... they take do-overs, 3, 4 ,5 times, some more than that
It appears they somehow think their pretend marriage legitimizes their sluttery and failure - and the bragging about expensive parties must be helpful as well, or the fraudulent facade of "doing the right thing"...
IT'S A FUCKING JOKE A BAD JOKE
>>55340340
>women
>learning
>>55346384
yea i agree
if you are going to be promiscious, show at least some restraint. we don't live in fantasy land where gangbangs don't have consequences. and always use protection, if you can't afford condoms then you shouldn't have sex.
They have the right to be sexually liberated (duh fuq?) if that's what they want to call it. But they don't have the right to be shielded and protected from negative opinions from others. Go ahead be "liberated" but when people call the girls sluts and say nasty things about them and guys don't want to date them so they're stuck without stable relationships they can complain all they like but they don't have the right for others to view them as what they are, degenerate cum dumpster fifth.
>>55347241
>>55346257
Fuck, exactly. That's what I don't understand about the modern Internet. Guys instinctually dislike sluts, we only want to fuck them and then forget about them. This cultural idea that guys are THE problem and that we need to force guys to marry sluts is pathetic, and I am happy that men are standing up and saying "no, fuck off" to the whole thing.
>>55347189
Nothing wrong with a good gangbang every once in a while.
But condoms are a must.
>>55341166
spot on my negro
>>55340677
Sauce
>>55337670
They can.
But I can call them the whores that they are.
>>55342402
Excellent, soon enough the sperm source maleDNA will be able to be detected with rather simple tests, and the slut shaming can take a step to a whole new level.
A new wife, pre-nup, of course, will be quizzed on her promiscuity, and the revealing cum dumpster testing will be cross checked to the testimony.
A great boon for our new Shariah law society as well - slut testing - the results may mean a well deserved legal stoning to death.
The future is bright, indeed.
>>55348980
You sound like an incredibly butthurt pro-slut Internet ideologue who is upset that people have morals, whether they be Muslim or western. "Slut shaming" will never go away, accept it.
>>55337670
Women are free to do whatever they want.
That doesn't mean they are free of the judgement from her actions.
>>55339927
It was so retarded, i first though it was stupid.
Then i though it was bait.
Now I'm not really sure
>>55348980
we can dream
>>55349992
this triggers the paki doctor
>>55337670
/pol/ is arguing against a historical tide, they will never win. For once a philosopher was right, the death of god defines our entire existence. Sexual freedom is not wrong, it is simply and end stage.
>>55337670
>as long as it doesn't hurt anyone
false premise. it does. women with more partners have lower self-esteem and significantly increased tendency for failed relationships
>21st century
not for long
degeneracy accompanies collapse, every. single. time.
sage
>>55351247
that's what they told themselves in Babylon and Sodom and Gomorrah. kek
how'd that work out?
>>55341467
>Michrochimerism
>partner count test commercially available when?
>>55337670
> demands no bounds on women's sexuality
> i should be allowed to walk naked anywhere
> have sex with anyone, in public, when i want
> can't see any harm to society whatsoever
> thinks we live in a "rape culture"
> teach men not to rape, thieves not to steal, liars not to lie, but don't teach me to be responsible for the psychos I attract
> demands laws that make men accused of sexual misconduct guilty until proven innocent
> male_sexuality_is_evil.jpg
> demands the state pay for birth control
> demands the state pay for single motherhood
> state already pays for her degree
> stay_at_home_mom_in_8_years.jpg
> 77 cents on each dollar a man earns
> Responsible for 80% of household spending anyway
> wants to ban guns
> won't carry and use a gun to protect herself
> thinks cops are evil
> thinks only cops should have guns
> wants to give her 9 year old puberty blocking hormones and convince it it's a tranny or gay
Maybe the real question we should be answering is, why are the Muslims wrong to deprive women of all liberties and keep them behind a veil. Women are like overgrown infants, laughing while they burn the world down.
>How does such freedom harm society at all?
They don't marry because less men will want to marry them, and they won't have children through marriage. If they do have any children, they will be raised by a single mother.
So yes it is very harmful to society.
Not nearly enough Stocking in this thread.
>>55337670
>sexual Liberty
>blah blah blah
>21st century
>>55337670
Cocks are like keys and vaginas are like locks.
A key which can open many locks is a master key. A lock which opens to any key is a shitty lock.
>>55351031
Not sure if you meant me. I am white. I accept reality, I just find it fucking ludicrous that our society expects women not to be criticized for their actions in any way. Sex DOES matter in many ways, and this idea that women can go out and suck as much cock as they want to without *any* consequences is just a leftist drug-addled bleeding heart pipe dream. Women already have it easy enough as it is, it's not my fault if they get offended when someone calls them a slut, I guess the truth hurts.
>>55337670
It doesn't really matter, but womens sexual appetites and proclivities are not the same as men.
It's pretty similar to saying "So what if its open season on murder", and one group is armed with guns, the other with knives.
So yeah, all things being equal it isn't a big deal, but your basic premise is a lack of equality.
>>55351247
>/pol/ is arguing against a historical tide, they will never win.
This is what we call "hubris"; you enjoy proclaiming victory because it pads your narcissistic, only-child fantasy about being "chosen" to lead the "oppressed" into the progressive promised land. In your heart, you know your life is a fraud, propped up by your parents and connections, that will collapse like a house of cards if people sharing your views don't win the next election. For the rest of your life, the "tide" will always be just one election away from turning. There are no "permanent majorities" in systems as corrupt as the ones we live in now.
> For once a philosopher was right, the death of god defines our entire existence.
You're supposed to grow out of cryptic statements in archiac syntax by the time you're 15 and Tumblr gets boring. The persistence of these speech patterns are symptom of a burgeoning borderline personality disorder.
> Sexual freedom is not wrong, it is simply and end stage.
You're right, it is a kind of "end-stage" one in which other civilizations capable of impulse control successfully mitigate the negative costs of unmitigated sexual promiscuity, and beat us at the demographic numbers game. You were a good useful idiot for the cultural marxists and third-worldists' social engineering project to end the dominance of western civilization.
> you won't be remembered, except as a charicature of decadence and lack of rational self-interest that led to the collapse of a great civilization
https://youtu.be/44vzMNG2fZc
>>55337979
Exactly. The idea that your actions, even when seemingly benign, can't indirectly hurt someone else, is a fallacy.
If you took the libertarian argument to its logical conclusion, then why shouldn't people be allowed to walk around naked? Why shouldn't people be allowed to have sex in public? Why can't a prostitute solicit in front of your house?
If this behavior, causes the destruction of families. And if the destruction of families, can be proven to have a negative effect. Then this behavior has a negative effect(IE it is harmful).
>>55351768
read it again, I'm calling out silicon doc for his long history of autistic /g/ shitposting
>>55345369
But it was an honest mistake, anon.
Women come in two forms on this subject.
They are either irresponsable sluts who can't take account for their actions or they are jealous cunts who who care too much about their title and status to make out with another girl and lash out and anyone who dares have a spine.
>>55340286
>>55341049
Oh I thought you were being sarcastic. Good.
>>55337670
>as long as it doesn't hurt anyone
But it does.
It makes the world a colder and lonelier place. It makes people trust one another less, spreads STDs, certainly the babies that whores abort are harmed, and it penalizes the actually good women who don't use sex to get what they want.
>>55340259
RARE
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>>55337670
Lets see.
1.) STD's
2.) Pregnancy
3.) The more sexual partners one has the less likely they are to have healthy relationships
4.) It sets a poor example for others.
5.) It shows poor impulse control
>>55352768
Yes all that is true as well.
>>55352768
>>yfw all this degeneracy literally happened because of the internet. The internet destroyed the family for good unless you go Amish
look how cold and lonely it is here on 4chan
>>55352871
Im comfy and full of warm booze. Trust me that's the best their is left in life since sexual liberation kicked in and we put niggers in government. WW3 will save us all by eliminating 90% of us if we are lucky.
/pol/ btfo'd
feelsgoodman
Well, here is an question. How much sex is too much?
Whats wrong with the occasional orgy?
>>55352871
The internet didn't damage the family. TV is a boon to leftism, but internet with free speech (like 4chan) is the opposite -- practically anywhere that people can speak without being moderated.
The main thing is, of course, the whole bit about getting women into the workforce, so that everyone earns half as much. Same motive for immigrant acceptance, so that they can make everyone poorer.
>>55353197
but the internet causes passivity and inactivity.
How many people here have actually DONE anything to fight degeneracy in the real world, let alone in their own lives. get real, most people here fap to porn regularly
>>55353078
Easy, no amount of sex with your spouse is too much.
>>55352965
> /pol/ btfo'd lel
I'm not the one with expensive hormone, HIV and herpes treatments I can't pay for without the Obamacare co-ops that tanked this year. You're just one election away from being out on your ass, with no welfare. Enjoy it while it lasts.
> maybe you shouldn't have posted in all those "breeder" forums for a POS Top to come seed your ass
"bug chasing" is an example of sexual liberation. Enjoy your AIDS.
https://youtu.be/v_tHrCFnrGs
Actual porn stars and prostitutes? Fine, its a pay check and hopefully the love what they do.
Girls who just really like sex? Again, all the power to them.
Girls wanting attention and to leach off people? No, they should get another source of self esteem.
Same goes to guys.
>>55353279
>but the internet causes passivity and inactivity.
Doesn't seem so at all. The internet is a valuable organizing tool, giving everyone a massive wealth of information, and we'd have never had a chance to avoid the establishment candidates without the internet.
>>55353397
it's all about the illusion of freedom.It's not like we have any choice in getting the non-establishment candidates elected, its false hope
>>55337670
As long as they take responsibility I see no problem.
But wait, most people are retards who can't take responsibility, thus there is a problem.
>>55351724
Damn jews.
Women have been sexually liberated in the usa for like 50 years now. What are you talking about. Who is stopping you from sucking a bagful of dicks?
>>55353514
>It's not like we have any choice in getting the non-establishment candidates elected, its false hope
Sure we do. Only the internet would have let non establishment candidates get this sort of momentum. Without it the masses would just go for whoever the TV endorses.
>>55337670
It's a number of things, but one thing to understand is these losers wouldn't be able to bag these girls if they wanted to. They are losers and social lepers. That being the case, they turn around and say they never wanted them any how, and all this nonsense. Understanding this is essential.
>>55337670
>Why shouldn't anyone be allowed to have sex how much they want and with whoever they want, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone?
Because it DOES hurt people, that's why. That's the only measure of morality -- does this negatively effect people? Yes, then it's wrong.
>>55337765
It's funny too because they're using a made up projected argument. You don't like sexual promiscuity? Or you must not like SEX! No... I like sex, I just don't think a girl should be able to fuck me, then fuck another guy and make me raise that guys kid because she's too much of a manipulative coward to say she cheated.
>>55337938
> freedom from consequences FOR THEMSELVES
I think it's really more about this than anything else.
>>55340094
>What you say and what I say are the same thing
>YOU'RE A retard.
/pol/'s legendary reading comprehension at work folks.
>>55337670
it's the slippery slope into cvckhood
>>55338927
>It's a waste of time to hate on women for being what they are.
Nah, that's just another way for you to enable the women. You don't hold them accountable or responsible so they never learn to be accountable or responsible.
>>55339747
It's funny because I agree with this 100% and I've been thinking about that chart lately...
It seems that the "alpha male" would benefit the most. Like us men should WANT that system because it leads to us getting a lot more pussy right? Well ironically it doesn't because women don't judge men on anything more than physical appearance, THATS what you're missing in your analysis too, because sexual liberation creates a vain society that puts getting sex as the number one goal for everyone involved. Making sex power and who can have the sex the easiest? Women. And men women think are good looking.
So in the end hypergamy actually decreases everything that makes human civilization, hell HUMANS AS HUMANS work. The only reason we're the smartest, most dominant species is because we're literally the best parents in the animal kingdom, not only did we ensure our offspring survived but THRIVED too and we took care of several generations of our offspring.
Hyper-gamy destroys family and destroying the family destroys Man.
>>55338159
>it doesn't actually take a village to raise a child
>>55337670
>as long as it doesn't hurt anyone?
But it is hurting someone whether it be an std or a emotional problem sex is just as dangerous as any drug that gets people addicted and fucks them up bad especially women, I don't give a fuck if 2 adults consented to having sex just for fun and then left something did fucking happen during that sex which either the male or female will experience later on, there is some kind of spiritual connection that takes place which we cannot see with our carnal eyes or even try to describe with our carnal mind.
>sexual liberty
I used to be just as fucking stupid as you.
And then I realized that people don't exist in a bubble. Your actions affect more than just you and your fuck.
You have a responsibility to the whole of your nation, and have a real, tangible interest in keeping the whole of society healthy, and it starts with your own life.
The whole "two consenting adults" bullshit falls apart when you infest media with that message and convince everyone to think that way. Now we have an unhappy, unfulfilled, and unloved society, and it's all because of faggots like you.
Fuck Liberals, and fuck Libertarians. I can't believe I believed you for even a second. What an idiot I was.
>>55355755
I go off on too many tangents in one post. But the point here is hypergamy only benefits those who it benefits in the very shortest of terms. In long term it's bad for everyone involved.
How many people do you know who have kids from different parents and all sorts of life fucking up scenarios because they're constantly moving in and out with different spouses and shit? Because no one can just be satisfied fucking one person, they have to fuck everyone they can get.
Stuff like that builds over time and drags down society as a whole.
>>55356253
Arranged marriage fucking works
romantic love was already too degenerate, you can thank the eternal Anglo for introducing it to the world.
/pol/ loves to shit on indians (no pun intended) but I think we all subconsiously know that their culture of arranged marriage makes them happy and lets everyone have a family.
also, the Jews do arranged marriage too. Let that sink in.
>>55337670
>because some people live in the 21st century
"COME ON GUYS, IT'S 2015!"
>>55356253
>You have a responsibility to the whole of your nation, and have a real, tangible interest in keeping the whole of society healthy, and it starts with your own life.
>>55343475
>>55344222
>>55344823
good stuff, too bad /pol/ is full of shitposters to appreciate some sound input
>>55337670
go crawl on back to 1960
>>55337670
HOLY SHIT!
CAN YOU BELIEVE IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR!
>>55341086
>my one goal in life is to have a kid so I can give up on life
baka desu senpai.
>>55339767
nice b8 faggot
>>55337670
man I hate these threads. They imply you autist retards potentially will get sex from these women. News flash, you wont.
>>55356768
>Implying that you must be a Stalinist if you agree with what he said
>>55357154
You mean the guys that say "HURRRR VIRGIN" as an insult to other guys? Are you talking about THOSE stunted autist retards? Yeah, I agree. Hipster whiteknight nu-males say the darnest things.
You guys are just mad because you can't get any pussy. Stay virgin /pol/.
>>55339747
You know, I would call myself one of the aplhas, but I can't help but feel bad for all the betas.
Don't get me wrong, much of the blame - more than you're willing to admit - goes to your neruotic, controlling personalities but you didn't choose to develop the way you did.
Don't worry betas, you'll get robot pussy soon
ITT: A bunch of bitter, salty virgin omegas who are delusional enough to believe they are "the real alpha who is being put down by white women and minorities and that's why I can't get fuck."
You're the insecure, worst half of Eliot Rodger.
You idiots honestly believe if women didn't have rights and minorities weren't allowed to have sex, you would be swimming in pussy.
This threat is the EXACT thing that feminists whine and lament about, but for the other team.
Truth: You'd still be a miserable virgin.
Seek self-awareness, holy shit.
The only women thatre whores are the ones that don't want to sleep with me. The rest are ok
Promiscuous sexuallity reduces a person's ability to form meaningful relationships
Simple as that
