what does /pol/ think of biohacking? is it the new tattoos and ear expanders or is it the beginning of early transhumanism?
pic related looks dumb as fuck, but I'm sure useful things will actually start to be implemented in our bodies soon
>>55324481
Robotic eyes would be cool
>>55324481
Transhumanism is inevitable if we don't destroy ourselves.
Thus it will never happen.
>putting something that emits electromagnetic radiation inside of a wound
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
>>55324481
I want to believe this fad will usher in an era of biomechanical improvements to the human body, but it's hard to buy into the singularity when consumer technology - outside of information technology - has stalled. I worry that the modernist dream is a failure sometimes.
>is it the new tattoos and ear expanders
that's a good way to put it
>>55324959
You have no idea what you're talking about.
Unless you think radio waves would harm a wound, I suggest you shut the fuck up.
>>55325037
It is.
>>55325046
it just feels like it's going to be the 2016 fedora or vape
>getting some stupid magnet implanted in your hand
>biohacking
>>55324481
They will die horrible deaths.
The only way to do it is retroviral rewriting of genes.
>>55324481
Many pacemakers can be easily and wirelessly hacked, giving humans a literal kill switch (one exploitable by any common hacker).
This won't be very different.
>>55325056
>lol cancer is just a meme
Imagine how you'd feel now if you put a floppy drive in you back in the day.
I wouldn't mind having a electrode wired to my prostate that is activated wirelessly by my phone
>use cybernetic implants
>emp
>dies
gg
>>55325616
>lol I don't know what non-ionising radiation is
>>55325768
Non-existent is what it is. Codeword for "very lightly ionising".
All radiation ionises, just to varying degrees.
Alpha, beta and gamma radiation all ionise. The first, alpha, is the most ionising but the least dangerous because it has a low range.
Put that shit in your skin?
>>55325906
Hahaha. That's all radioactive radiation, you dumbass fuck. We're talking about electromagnetic radiation here (e.g., visible light, infrared, x-rays, microwaves, radio waves). Some of these types of radiation literally don't have enough energy to ionise particles.
>>55325995
Electromagnetic radiation? Like gamma radiation, for instance?
It's just a matter of fucking scale.
>lol some kinds of heat literally don't have enough energy to melt steel beams
I personally could give a shit if someone places a few lights in their arm. That's how I see all body mods or tattoos. As long as it isn't directly affecting me then there's no reason to care. Micromanaging people's lives is what nit-picky Authoritarian cunts do. If these people want to harm their job prospects to impress their vaping and fedora tipping comrades then let them
>>55326075
Yeah, gamma is one type. An ionising type.
Oh, and that meme definitely changed my opinion. Well done, you sure know how to put forward a good argument.
>>55324481
I want to see freaks who overdo it and die in their young age. Will those thing be removed from their bodies after death? Or will they be buried with implants? Could i raid a grave of some cyberfreak and take the gear from his dead body?
>>55326082
Your taxes will not just fund their medication, but their cancer too
>>55324864
>Robotic eyes would be cool
This. Bionic eyes would allow one to observe information that the normal eye couldn't, such as infrared, x-ray, uv, nightvision, etc.
>>55324959
>>putting something that emits electromagnetic radiation inside of a wound
>HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
>using the computer that emits electromagnetic radiation inside of your hourse
>>55324481
RFID skin implants when? :^)
>>55326137
High energy electromagnetic radiation
= gamma radiation
>>55326075
>>55326137
Fight me
>>55326075
>Doesn't know what he's talking about
>memes
>>55324481
Transhumanism is going to be the first real revolutionary thing implemented in humans.
Gene splicing and all that stuff will probably follow afterwards.
Planetary Global Transcendence Conscienceness Networking System probably in about a hunnit years nigga.
>>55326218
Not always.
And these things emit visible light. Visible light is non-ionising.
But yeah, I'm sure visible light causes cancer. Even though we're literally fucking surrounded by it every day of our lives.
>>55324864
I want to believe
>>55325742
^this
And whats the point of putting a RFID under your skin when you could put the same function into a watch or clothing.
>Putting lights under your skin
>Just because its cool
Just as bad as tattoos
>living near radio transmitters
You're literally breathing in the waves. This stuff is devastating for your lungs
>>55326282
>nigga
thats the problem and i glad that you didn't forget about it in the end.
Also you think people who are against abortion will allow Gene splicing? don't be so naive
>>55326348
Dead eyes see no future, pol.
>>55326256
>>55326324
>the device implanted in your skin will only radiate visible light or other low energy radiation
>>55324864
As long as they come with em shielding.
>>55326282
Earlier. 20-30 years tops.
>>55324481
>is it the new tattoos and ear expanders or is it the beginning of early transhumanism?
You remember those kids that wore shoes with lights in the soles that blink when they walk?
This shit is an embarassment to the idea of post-humanism and I should have known it was only a matter of time before the ideas that surround this subject would have all the philosophy and forethought torn away from them to facilitate mass consumption.
>>55326463
Oh, they're gonna make it release gamma rays are they? For no reason other than to kill the people who use them. You're hilarious
>>55325995
> being exposed to constant electromagnetic waves is good for you
>>55326537
Heat and sound, retard.
>>55326205
About 15 years ago
>>55326560
Protip: you're exposed to gamma rays every single second. They don't affect you because it's in such small quantities.
>>55324481
Can no one just tell me what the FUCK that is?
>>55326375
I wouldnt put it in your actual skin unless you want the NS-ayy to be inside you 24/7 and possibly expoit the rfid device
>>55326348
No need for that junk, you already look retarded.
>>55326375
Its a little harder to remove if it's under your skin
>>55326463
They're fancy lights, so no I expect them to emit visible light, not ionising gamma radiation unless they decide to go full retard and use nuclear isotopes
>yfw we gonna need Psycho Squads to eliminate people over using stimpaks, splicing too much genes and getting their implants rejected by their own body so they don't massacre complete towns.
You gonna see school shootings like in the USA but with 10x more aggression because peoples minds are in overdrive all the time because of all the unnatural enhancements creating lots and lots more of victims when someone goes full psycho mode on the population.
>>55326160
I don't like seeing people suffer, I guess that's okay
>>55326646
Iron man's arc reactor
>>55326625
>putting the source in your skin won't make a difference
The idea of it is cool, but I can not allow the government to put a chip in me or monitor me via my implants.
Unfortunately, that WILL happen.
>>55324481
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9QZ7E9nvrY
Big brother will be watching you.
>>55326463
microwaves have even less energy than visible light
same with heat infrared from a toaster
yet they claim microwaves will give you cancer.
>>55324481
>"biohacking"
>putting bacterial biofilm growth inducing surfaces inside your body
literally idiots
>>55326861
Gamma rays penetrate are highly penetrating, they'll penetrate your skin and pass right through you easily anyway.
>>55324481
enjoy your thousand cycle li-ion battery
i'm more worried about all the radiation from spy tech & consumer devices than whatever i stick inside me.
>>inb4 hurr durr skitzo. use more telescopes.
>>55325710
the orgasm implant for women exists, but inventor refuses to spill the beans.
>>55326152
no but you can add notes. >>wishing i could leave a note on andrew jacksons rfid
>>55326375
>>what's the use of *
>>there's nothing left to invent. web 1.0 it is!
>>55326898
ankle jewelry no more!
yeah that's when iQuit.
>>55326898
>>55326945
>people forgot about the NSA
NSA didn't just modify your phone lines
NSA didn't just hack your software
NSA went to the hardware manufacturers
NSA put devices in basic components
NSA put exploitable defects in
>>55326998
UV light is non-ionising. It also causes skin cancer.
>>55327010
They'll irradiate you too
>>55326739
The movies and videogames of today are programming this generation to long for those augmetic-toys, showing them as cool and desirable. People grow discontent with their own bodies, just like trans-people who discontent with their genetalia.
there's nothing wrong in upgrading yourself to human 2.0 right?
but yeah, emp sucks
Tbh, being Genos wouldn't be that bad
>>55324481
Biohacking? Sticking lights under your skin, for what reason would anyone do this? It looks retarded as fuck.
>>55327543
Current year
>>55327232
>People grow discontent with their own bodies
And rightfully so, because our bodies are weak squishy mass of meat ridden with sickness
>>55327543
Trans-coloured and colour-fluid
>>55324959
emp fries transistors, i doubt you would notice your implant getting empd other than it's perma off
firsties - iso melanin regulator implant
going to hell now.
>>55327858
YES. I CAN FINALLY BE SAFE WHEN I GO INTO THE HOOD FOR DRUGS!
>>55327581
don't give me this platonian shit about cage. If God has created us, then we should be in his image.
If we woul start changing it with genes then expect furry races - ratman, dogman, catman, pigman to appear. Basically new breeds of niggers to shit on this barren Earth. More war, hunger, hatred, diseases and genocide ensue.
>>55324864
Someone could literally hack into your eyes making you see anything they want, the best thing about our biological bodies is that scientist havent found a way to remotely hack human minds, we can already hack our brains via drug though and magnetism.
>>55327926
Fuck you and your small-mindedness. I look forward to merging with AI and becoming a superhuman cyborg. I'm glad the media is pushing this whole transhumanism/singularity movement. I look forward to live in a technological utopia 100 years from now.
>>55327926
>If God wanted us to fly he would give us plane tickets
If we followed that type of thinking we would still live like caveman. Besides why God gave us intellect if he didn't want us to use it?
>>55324864
This
I want my based almost-blind friend to see.
>>55327171
I never even mention ionizing
it's energy and amplitude that make light dangerous or not
the shorter the wave length the more energy per photon
which determines what atoms, and electron shells are able to absorb the photons
the brightness or amplitude is how many of those photons there are.
the more photons the brighter the beam
the more photons the more energy transferred to an object
usually atoms just reflect light
>>55327926
Consider the following: we could get space marines but also get orks aswell.
>>55328132
Use your intellect, but stay human. Why do you want to transcend beyond your human form? To loose your soul in the transition to hardware? Thats not what Jesus Christ taught us.
Why you want to live forever on Earth? To escape punishment after death? Think about it.
>>55324481
Alright, I tried both image searches and they gave me nothing.
Source please, I want to know precisely what sort of freakery is going on in that photo.
>>55328164
Humans could never naturally fly, the atmosphere is not thick enough to support our heavy bones in midair.
>>55328530
Yeah thanks for clearing that up.
>>55328418
Niggers, jews and arabs are enough for me and you. We don't need new minorities that can outbreed us all by their genetic enhancements in birth rates.
>>55324959
>electromagnetic radiation inside of a wound
better stop using screens and not step outside then.
you're fucking dumb
Are you guys ready for the decade long debate on whether people should be able to have their limbs and/or organs removed and replaced with bionics?
>>55326459
I like marching on a deadend road too.
>>55328737
>being inside a tanning booth is exactly the same as standing a metre away
>>55328887
Only idiots wouldnt want organs that can never break down. Infact for transhumanism the entire human anatomy should be redesigned.
>>55328887
no, i need a new organs in a decade, not a debate decade.
fuck the vatican, stem cell research now.
>>55324481
>what does /pol/ think of biohacking? is it the new tattoos and ear expanders or is it the beginning of early transhumanism?
I believe the human will be similar to Deus Ex Human Revolution and its sequel Deus Ex Mankind Divided
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akaos1U8Rto
>Anti-cybernetics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG_oThcYsn0
>Pro-cybernetics
>>55328962
who is to say that artificial never breaks down? You want your new anatomy designed in China?
>>55327232
In most games and movies about transhumanism they show augmentations in a bad daylight.
Some examples: Deus Ex Human Revolution (protests, social cohesion going to shit, etc.), Syndicate (whole new class of poverty is made), Cyberpunk 2077 (people going insane because their bodies and minds can't take it anymore).
Only movie that comes to mind at the moment is Blade Runner which is also dystopian.
In general almost all media depicts it as dystopian.
>>55329301
>There will be human-bots riots
What a time to be alive!
>>55329327
>fma
>one punch man
watching the wrong media m84
>>55328887
My right eye is almost completely blind. I wouldn't mind a cybernetic implant.
>>55324481
I think it's fucking stupid in it's current form, but it has potential. Especially with the likes of biomechatronics.
>>55329610
>>55329434
>>55329434
>There will be human-bots riots
>What a time to be alive!
Well, everything has a bad and good side.
>>55329301
>Get augs
>"I cant pay for my augs!"
>"This is the corporation's fault!"
Purity first logic
>
Special snowflake bullshit
>>55329327
But those are games build on the idea of empowering of augmentation that in itself makes your hero unique and part of the story. You almost never play as a clean monk who fights augmented freaks. You as a player is always a fucking psyho yourself.
And in the end of the game - you deal with all the problems or you get an impresion that they can be overcomed.
Either way augmetics look fun, new, progressive and desirable despite all horrors that the game is trying to show us.
>>55324481
I want a skull gun.
>mfw one of the reasons I'm going into a career in science is a fascination with transhumanism.
>>55329307
Chinks make cheap easily breakable crap to save money, they dont mess around with serious projects though.
>>55328426
I don't want to live forever on this planet. I want to witness the day we drop all of this fucking nonsense and start colonizing the galaxy or making our own planet better with the widespread use of AI and technology. I don't want to become hardware, I want to merge with hardware, become one with machine. Do you think our emotions or feelings or empathy makes us human? No, it is our will to survive, to challenge the odds, to row against the tide, to give Mother Nature one big "Fuck you" and destroy everything in our path. I don't want to live forever (you can't escape entropy, so...), I just want to be here using any means possible to see what we will become in the future.
>>55329831
>having any amount of explosives near your brain
>>55329327
Well, think of it... If it wasn't a dystopia there would be no hero to save the day or a movie to be made. It would be a boring, pointless movie about day-to-day life in the future. Of course they'll make it look dystopian, it's more interesting.
Millenial NEET genre-fluent BIOHACKER
GOOD GOYM
What the fuck is it?
it's degenerate
>>55329882
> I want to merge with hardware, become one with machine.
There won't be any (You). When you say 'I" you mean? How can you guarantee that you will not just die? Read Lem's Summa Technologiae, he explored this idea.
>to see what we will become in the future.
are you ready for suicide when you loose all the faith in humanity? Because i lost some faith just by reading your post and now i reach for a blade pondering if it all worth it.
>>55324481
Flashlight would be cool, would be doubly cool if it could be charged by body heat or something.
>>55330340
Jesus Christ, you're stupid. I'm not talking about that mind uploading meme or mind transferring or any crap like that; I don't believe that'll work. But how does replacing my body parts and blood for cybernetics and nanobots make me any less human that you or the others?
>are you ready for suicide when you loose all the faith in humanity?
If we reach a point so bad that there might be no return I might off myself or stick around for a while to see the progress of things. Look man, I just want to be there to say "Wow, so this is how it all ends. This is what we've become".
>>55330399
Dream big, american brother
>>55324481
At this point it's just a fad for OMG FUCKING FUTURE,SINGULARITY NOA!!!!!!1111 fan boys/special snow flake girls with a very small sliver of the maker community that gets of on tinkering with cool new things. Unfortunately real trans-humanism can only be gotten with a corporate/academic price tag and all the entails in the society it was created in.
If Nordic socialism would have been allowed to prosper it could have been a Nirvana now a hopeful dystopia is too much to hope for.
>see transhumanism thread
>check it for obligatory "mark of the beast" post
Wasn't disappointed.
>>55327926
Found the christfag
>>55330569
Well, if you replace too much and start to look like a walking tank then your mind will change too. You probably will think not like human, you will not look like human, and you will need new rights. Because we really can't allow people with guns in their skulls walking around. How would you fly on a plane? And about your nanobots they can be dangerous too.
>This is what we've become".
thanks to people like you we will become a species of slaves who serve immortal jewish Leaches
>>55327926
some parts of revelation could hint transhumanism is a good thing; its poetically mentioned how endtimes faithful aren't normal people - the two marks, of god and the beast, could easily be two warring transhuman factions
>wanting robotic eyes
USE GLASSES FUCK
>>55324481
>putting unnecessary shit under your skin and call it "hacking"
>transhumanism
no. come back back when you look like this
>>55328729
Intellect is the pinnacle of evolution. The fact that we have intellect means that our bodies have no need to evolve anymore.
Our intellectual efforts should be thus directed outside, to the exploration and art.
Utopia can only be reached through satisfaction with your own self which is only attainable with preservation of your original self.
Once the line is crossed (this age actually) there is no turning back - you will endlessly desire to become something else or something more than yourself, and this "greed" will never stop. And eventually lead to ruin of the whole civilization.
>>55331180
>Well, if you replace too much and start to look like a walking tank then your mind will change too. You probably will think not like human, you will not look like human, and you will need new rights. Because we really can't allow people with guns in their skulls walking around. How would you fly on a plane? And about your nanobots they can be dangerous too.
You have a point on the nanobots and anything that can be controlled remotely. This is honestly the greatest setback I see with transhumanism. But I don't think if I replace every bit of my body except my brain (and head) with a superior cyborg counterpart will affect my mind. You're just pulling shit out of your ass with that one, admit it.
>thanks to people like you we will become a species of slaves who serve immortal jewish Leaches
Lol, this whole kikery won't last long. We're gonna have 9 to 11 billion people by the end of the century, the older Rothschilds and Co. will be dead long gone, and the widespread access to information and conectivity will make people more aware of kikery. Think these "conspiracy" videos being watched more times by more people. Hopefully we'll have more "truth" activists and hackers to fuck things up for them
>>55324481
>/pol/ thinks ELF waves are cancer inducing death sentences
>No one points out the risk of infection created by introducing such a gorilla looking piece of equipment inside the body
FYI, radio waves can produce cancer but we are talking living right next to a UHF tower for years, and then cancer could be a possibility.
Also these are retarded devices because they have been reduced to the size of rice beans, and people in Seattle have been using them. The ones they use do not produce any energy, they activate when receiving a long range radio signal from a device, and open when these devices detect them, which is less secure than having a smartphone app open these for them.
I.E this is retarded because miniaturized versions exists, and even those are not practical at all.
>>55331474
You don't know how much of your brain functions is dependant on the rest of your body. You know what Thyroid is and how it affects your brain? Or how much the food that you eat affects your thoughts? without the haptic information from your skin you will loose a lot of your brain cells, without your motion functions a lot of responsible parts of your brain will degrade. heard of motion memory?
You don't apreciate your body and think only about your brain - learn your shit first.
For a second imagine that you stop feeling everything below your neck, like draw a line and imagine that there is nothing below that neck line and try to hold the thought for a minute.
>>55331384
>you will endlessly desire to become something else or something more than yourself, and this "greed" will never stop
But that's already in us. Everything that humans do stem from that desire to be something more, to understand more. H+ is just a next logical step in the same old direction, only in more advanced society.
>And eventually lead to ruin of the whole civilization
Nothing will be ruined because there's no such thing as "whole civiliztion". What we consider civilization is just a enormous amalgamation of elements that we consider a single entitiy due to our inherent deficiency.
>>55327926
>mfw furry faggots become real and fuck eachother in public parks/places because "HURR DURR we animals"
>>55331970
>For a second imagine that you stop feeling everything below your neck, like draw a line and imagine that there is nothing below that neck line and try to hold the thought for a minute.
I do that all the time. I'm not going to obviously going to chop my body up before they develop a superior -- in every way -- replacement. The limbs will have to have sensors to replace the cells and skin.
Science will take care of it. Don't worry.
>>55327418
>Not achieving your full potential by pure willpower
This is why you cyberkeks will fail
>>55329935
>Not wanting a skull gun
I bet you like lemon-lime over orange, don't you.
>>55332103
>Science is magic, it can do everything eventually and nothing can stop it
this is very troublesome point of view.
>>55331974
There is the line.
Line that you can stop BEFORE. But you will never stop after. And it is about anything.
We are, presently, not moving towards advances society. We are, right now, destroying everything that could lead to such society.
It is already everywhere.
Want an example? Plastic surgery. It started as necessity. But now it is a commodity. People literally visit plastic surgeons like dentist. Something that provides absolutely no value to civilization, society or our advancement in whole - already ate resources and research enough to already have human colonies on Mars.
Just think about it for a moment. Why would you think about some distant future of humanity if you could instead be working on getting that 3rd robotic eye with nightvision and laser auto-wipe on your ass.
>>55332439
It will, though.
I suggest you browse this website for a while: www.futuretimeline.org
And read some science news or watch some TEDs here and there. You have no ideia what's to come.
>this is not the future I chose
>>55332719
>TEDs
aхaхaхaхaххa, a ты cмeшнoй шизик.
>www.futuretimeline.org
this site is...i run out of english words to describe this mess. going to sleep, live forever my robots.
>>55332977
Bye, Russianbro. See you around, space man.
>>55328887
That debate has been going ever since the very concept of being able to replace organic parts with synthetic parts existed.
>>55333241
>who is icarus
>>55332960
man... that is specific...
honestly how often do you get to use that one?
>>55332594
This is stupid, you have some sort of imagined vision of advanced society without possibly knowing if it's even attainable. How is that in your advanced society human colonies on Mars can exist but not human augmentation? You just arbitraly decide what is "valuable to civilization" based on again imagined number of resources wasted, as if that's something you can even count. How can you know that exploration of space is the way to go?
You mention plastic surgery, but the same argument can be extended to everything - cars, food, phones, computers - those very things that you judge the "advancement" of civilization - every one of them started as a necessity an now is common as dirt, and the society adapted those things without crumbling. You're just excluding augmentations and a priori deciding they're harmful, evil and bring destruction - the same argument that was used through history to denounce major inventions i.e. printing press.
The one thing we can learn is that there is no "destruction", only changes, and humans are quite good at adapting to them.
>>55326167
>Bionic eyes would allow one to observe information that the normal eye couldn't, such as infrared, x-ray, uv, nightvision, etc.
Half true.
The best they could do without also modifying the visual cortex (and possibly, other parts of the brain) would be a series of false color filters that could be switched at will.
Think of a thermal camera, on the monitor you don't really see the heat but only a colored representation of different temperature areas.
>>55333553
this times 9000
>humans are quite good at adapting
This is what defines us. Not the bullshit empathy or feels or whatever, the will to survive and to adapt our surroundings to ourselves, not us to our surroundings. This is what makes us human. We've been on this planet far less than all the other animals and look at what we did: we became the ultimate predators in this world. We literally have the capacity to completely annihilate all complex life on this planet if we wanted to. And we have subjugated all the other literal subhumans to "habitats" and "zoos" and use them for our pleasure and necessities.
Augmentations and transhumanism is just another step in our quest for conquering the Universe.
>>55327926
>If God has created us, then we should be in his image.
Either God is imperfect or he did a fucking terrible job at it.
I mean, the cephalopod's eye is much more solidly built and has no blind spot, the appendix's only use is to get infected, wisdom teeth, non-distributed nervous system, only one hearth, spine prone to problems later in life and the fact that the human body is quite fragile, look at what a tardigrade can survive and tell me that wouldn't be fantastic.
>>55333727
Half true.
If augmentation were done at birth or before, the visual cortex (and possibly other parts of the brain) would adapt to all the stimuli it gets during development and maturation.
>>55326540
>Implying you have a choice
>>55327030
>the orgasm implant for women exists, but inventor refuses to spill the beans.
You mean some guys invented it but refuses to release it?
>>55324481
Transhumanist zealot reporting in.
Those body modification people are the cancer. The Trans people are the cancer. They totally don't get what Transhumanism is about and try to give their fetish shit and self-mutilation some higher meaning. They don't deserve the Singularity.
>>55334405
Who deserves it, then?
Is there any educational plan to make the right ones worthy?
Is there a way to turn this "advancement" into something else than another potential elitist coup?
Last but not least, what about niggers?
>>55326646
I envy you.
>>55334650
>Who deserves it, then?
That is the right question.
At first we could say Nobel Prices, Fields Medals. Great scientists, great doctors, engineers and medics whose exprerience is so fucking valuable we better give them a huge life expectancy. Surgeons and astronautrs that might benefit from highly precise augmented arms.
Second come workers in highly technical and laborious field of work. Augmentations could help them accomplish remarquable tasks much easier.
Also, injured people. Veterans who lost members. Unlocky falks having suffered traumatic injuries that disabilitate them permanently.
And in general, all the people involev in huge, long term projects. Space exploration and observation, super-high tech development such as fusion reactors, and so on.
>>55334650
>Last but not least, what about niggers?
I imagine criminals (which covers almost all nigger population) and other undesirables would have a permanent record that wouldn't allow them.
>>55330340
Russian senpai, there is a big difference between loose and lose.
>mfw I'm gonna be raiding graves for high tech implants
>>55334405
>fetish
No I just hate this fragile flesh sack
>>55328730
your the worst type of cristfag, you sit here and hate on other people for their race but claim you wont to stop others from what they want to do in the name of christ
>>55324481
>biohacking
I guess there is a hack for everything.
But as far as body implants I am all for it, and hope it does happen. Only concern I have is thought to thought implants. When your mind isn't your own.
>>55324959
Tomorrows retards today!
>>55335769
http://ieet.org/index.php/IEET/more/pelletier20130219 forgot link
>>55327232
>tfw you master your chi
>tfw you can lift cars
>tfw you can withstand bullets
>tfw you must never tell the world lest such power fall into the wrong hands
Why are people so delusionly optimistic?
Name a single thing invented so far by humanity for altering our own bodies that actually made humanity and its future better; and not worse.
>>55335992
Dental implants.
>>55335992
Herding of cattle leading to proliferation of beneficial mutation of lactose tolerance
>>55335992
oh yeah pace makers, gastric bypass, surgical reconstruction of faces after accidents, new robot prosthesis, dental implants, eye surgery, quadruple bypass.....
>>55336100
This.
Thank you and everyone with a functional brain knows the list could go almost endless.
Did anonye play alpha centuari? It actually had concepts like trans humanism in it.
>>55326540
>>visible light carries more energy than any form used by cell phones
the main threat with microwave radiation is the specific frequencies used and how close they are to that of water (i.e. microwave cooking/heat dissipation). It can interfere with brain activity but it doesn't ionize
What if we will one day hack our skin color and everybody can be white?
Does /pol/ still hate those of african descent?
>>55326160
I don't care. Let them live whichever way they want.
Skydivers included
Car drivers as well (huge amount die)
>>55329818
the personal computer IS already an augmentation psychologically, it's a prosthetic brain
>>55328426
>lose your soul
we are the soul pleb that's why I want to improve my body to improve my soul.
>>55329029
vatican is going to see it's last pope in about 10-20 years anyway
http://www.amazon.com/Transhumanism-A-Grimoire-Alchemical-Agendas/dp/1936239442
>2015+30
wifi makes you dumb lmao
>>55327543
they only way to make it look somewhat cool would require major surgery
>>55325037
This has always been both my favorite Snickers image and Deus Ex image
>>55328418
what are crusaders without moors to kill?
>>55324481
and you expect this stupid ass white kids to go work at crops and shit.
fancy led tho, is like a fag magnet
>>55334650
Let me frame it differently:
First we care about those who share our goals and actively work on them or support them.
Second we want to give it to the rest of humanity, at best as an offer they can refuse (but technology often gets coercive, so I won't pretend it's all about free choice for them).
Body mod and trans people aren't our active focus, so if they benefit from Transhumanist technologies and a positive Singularity, it's a side effect.
Re niggers: they get the same chance to enhance themselves. Which means both physical and cognitive enhancement. We assume that cognitive upgrades plus education make people better. So nigs aren't excluded. We're usually supremacists, but not racists. In the end we're practically egalitarians for that we intend to make the awesome advanced available to everyone.
>>55335232
As a general rule: those who can afford it on their own or who are seen as important to get it payed for by third parties.
As prices and risks shrink, they get affordable to more people. In the end -- that's how technology usually develops, c.f. the cell phones, planes, Internet, medical technologies etc. -- they get nearly free for everyone.
>>55335657
I was talking about people who integrate some useless body modification stuff and call it Transhumanism and try to feel special. They usually aren't Transhumanists.
We need to upgrade our bodies, but that's a different thing than putting fancy shit into one's hand.
>>55336387
Most /pol/ racists are better described as culturalists. It's not so much about skin color but the attitude and behavior.
>>55324481
I'm almost sure that none of then can open or flex their hands without ripping their skin.
>>55324481
Teeth are stupid, I want teeth that look like regular teeth but don't rot and are made from some sort of awesome alloy so I can bite bottle caps off more easily
I feel like this isn't even that much to ask
>>55337001
Ah "Culturalist" I am going to use that one from now on. Besides transhumanism is a fruitless labour as it will not help us progress. We have already long left behind the times in which a large amount of men had their lives depend on agility, quick thinking or strength. Provided we even have jobs left when the "singularity" is here, there simply is no need to become immensely fast or strong. It will be regulated to hell and back and offer no practical benefit. Even cognitive augmentations will offer little benefit and would find a better place in a wearable form.
>>55328887
Mechanical livers and lower alcohol prices now.
>>55324481
I want to do pic related, but I'm not smart enough to uses adurino. I'm gonna use Raspberry Pi instead.
>>55338331
Sooo...
Nothing?
Transhumanism is a Fabianic agenda to further the dependance of the populace on the Establishment.
You have a huge dumb fucking sci-fi nerd to view the concept in any positive light.
>>55338484
>thinking transhumanism is an "agenda" and not just the logical conclusion behind medical advancements
>>55338195
We're focused on radical life extension (duration) and enhancement in abilities. Because we think that existing is awesome and we want more of it.
Strength or agility are just side-benefits, not our primary goals. It's not about becoming super heroes. It's more in the spirit of Russian Cosmism. Live long and well, gain knowledge and wisdom, enjoy existence, settle the universe.
This is the best example of this kind of mechaman thing I'm aware of
http://food.ndtv.com/health/finally-worlds-first-viable-bionic-heart-that-works-without-a-pulse-746997
> mechanical heart
> one moving part
> never wears out
> means no heart attack or associated heart issues
>>55338484
post yfw the internet and computing as a whole is also a fabianic agenda to further dependence on the establishment
>>55338853
It sure is mighty logical to be implanted with various devices with unspecified capabilities that will be most certainly used to track you and will have some sort of built-in backdoors of various sorts.
Yep, no potential for further dilution of rights and liberties here AT ALL.
>>55339166
It seems like an odd limit to stop at life extension. If any it seems to me that prolongation of useful life will only come after ways of increasing mental and physical abilities in the 20-50 year range have been developed.
Besides that I can totally understand your point.
![2013-03-31_00038[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FJkvoP7.jpg "2013-03-31_00038[1].jpg")
>>55324864
>Robotic eyes would be cool
Canada is working on it.
http://www.businessinsider.com/ocumetics-bionic-lens-perfect-vision-at-every-age-2015-5
>I asked for this
>>55339371
Man, that sure is paranoid. People wouldn't choose the brand that has this shit.
>>55339436
fuck yea, x ray vision. rape women EVERYWHERE
>>55338477
It's gonna look about like this.
>>55339475
people talked like this about the internet and look where we are now with NSA dick up our asses
>>55339166
>Russian Cosmism
Everytime i decide to give the concept of Transhumanism a fair look, you nerds somehow manage to punctuate the childish escapism even more.
>Live long and well, gain knowledge and wisdom, enjoy existence, settle the universe.
You're gonna get a killswitch and a neural cutout rammed up your ass and sent to work the fucking rice paddies for the elites.
>>55336387
No need to hate, they just don't belong to our lands, as simple as that. We deserve a country for our own ethnical and cultural survival.
>>55339436
"The bionic lens is actually folded like a taco and placed in the eye using a syringe filled with a saline solution."
BUILD WALL
>>55338081
Thinking about it some more, I'd also like a prehensile cock
Artificial stomach and liver, as well as other abdominal organs would be nice
>>55324481
Transhumanism is the future. Mankind will merge with out technology.
Biohacking is mostly a punk thing, kids trying to be cool. Maybe some of them get really into the scene and do something worthwhile in a few years.
The reward does not currently outweigh the risk for me. But I respect the people who want to do it now.
The implants most biohackers are using now seem pointless. None of them can do anything a smart watch cannot do better,
>>55327926
I hope you don't think we literally look like god in a superficial manner, our souls are in his image.
>>55339866
we are the souls
even jehovah witnesses get this
>>55339391
We have programs on regenerative and rejuvenative medicine. We're not extending life as such. When we mention it, often people think about the suffering of elderly people stretched to more years. That's not what's it about.
>>55339595
Don't worry. Most of us are aware of the dangers and work on technologies that make such important technologies resistant against those kinds of attacks. No guarantee we succeed.
Don't mix us with the loud "Transhumanists" on the net who just gush about the awesome future. Truly different demographics.
I appreciate your Russian pessimism though.
>>55329301
I disagree. I think it will be much closer to Ghost in the Shell.
People don't want to be just bad ass cyborgs. They want to look pretty and live forever as well.
That requires full body prosthetics. The other thing people want is fully immersive VR, that requires complete brain to computer interface.
It is also easier from a medical industrial complex view point. Rather than hundreds of different surgeries to implant different devices you only have one surgery for everyone. Removing the brain and placing it into a robotic body.
>>55328476
>over an hour later,
>still no source on the pic
Dammit you guys, stop leaving me on a limb here.
>>55339749
Biohacking isn't about fancy implants. More like synthetic biology, i.e. new drugs, gene therapies etc.
I'd like better eyes.
>>55340044
Well good luck to you and your kin.
Make sure to hurry up with that research. I am not sure if this will be allowed in my Fascist dictatorship spanning all of Europe.
>>55340387
Has not much to do with a regime being fascist, democratic, theocratic, or whatever. At least that's the good news.
Whether technology is developed and adopted is more of a cultural thing.
