>>55317408
from an outsider's perspective:
it was never a grassroot movement, just white trash repeating whatever script the koch bros found useful at the time for glenn beck to repeat
it had no autonomy nor true public leaders
the social landscape changed and it serve no purpose anymore
>TL;DR it was not an actual movement, a mere fraudience applauding to the larger than life infomercial that american politics are
>>55317408
millions of dollars were raised to get in candidates that would enact tea party policy. after they got I to office no one did what they were supposed to
>>55317408 tea pot has a flacid spout.
Project much?
>>55317561
It's almost like their platform was stupid.
>>55317608
Considering it's composed almost exclusively of elderly white men, I'd say it's accurate.
>>55317408
Apparently it was subverted by whomever (Jews/elites/CIA).
Their most vocal supporters came off as idiots so people that might lean their way got put off
>>55317408
1) It wasn't a movement. It was a name placed onto a sentiment
2) Once the "leaders" and talking heads got involved, the usual assholes acted like they ran the "tea party" show... and provided the liberal press and GOP establishment with a target to discredit and attack
3) The "movement" should have simply resulted in a "refresh" of GOP policy positions that stressed economic liberty - however it became a dirty hodge-podge of ideas
tl;dr It was not a movement to start with and the ideas threaten both party's statist ideas
Social conservatism.
>>55317408
The Tea Party stance of responsible tax expenditures and limited government absolutely flie in the face of the actual GOP stance (disregard their taking apart Government pillow-talk). Think of how "small" government was under Reagan (taking apart privately organized labor) or under W's Big Brother shit.
The problem for the GOP is that the Tea Party wants them to walk the walk, rather than just talk the talk (and fill their patron's pockets).
It helped Rand and Cruz defeat neocons and get into office. Biden said it was those two Freshman senators were responsible for killing gun control after Sandy Hook.
So I call that a win.
astroturf, but the right isn't as good at it
>>55317998
Yeah, that horrible gun registration legislation, what fascism. Trying to have decent record-keeping and have meaningful background checks...I mean
THAR TAKIN MUH GUNZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111!!!!!!!
>>55317408
IRS killed it by auditing all its members.
>>55317891
Correct!
>>55317985
Correct!
>>55317561
Correct!
>>55317830
Incorrect! Traditional media intentionally gave the microphone to drooling idiots. Don't confuse this with being an actual reflection of the ideas or movement.
>>55317698
Incorrect! In the grassroots phase, there was a very high female representation. The current caricature of the "Tea Party" is largely fabricated.
>>55318114
>this guy
>>55318114
Background checks are proven to not stop crime and are considered a waste of money and resources by law enforcement officers.
>>55318114
No amount of Federal legislation is going to get all of the states to properly implement the Gun Control Act of 1968 nor can Federal legislation compel state and local law enforcement to prevent all private gun transfers. You can take your "reasonable" gun legislation and shove it right up your ass.
>>55317408
Most of the early days of the tea shit was the establishment trying to use it. When they figured out how easy it would turn they marginalized it.
Also it still effects us to this day thats why nothing passes congress anon.
>>55317560
Whitey gets it.
What's funny is that the Superpacs and Tea Party fundraising seems to be going directly into the pockets of the organizers themselves, at a rate of better than 80%.
Imagine that, giving groups the ability to raise anonymous funding with little oversight on how it's to be spent besides "don't collude with X's campaign directly" and it's taken advantage of.
Who could have seen that coming?
>>55318301
You'd be amazed at what the States will fall in line with, particularly when it involves the flow of Federal dollars.
They said the same thing about letting Negroes eat in white restaurants friend.
It was immediately co-opted by the Kekservative Establishment, and what formed intitially as a rebuttal to Bush II's amnesty proposal quickly became an astroturf vehicle to mount seemingly grassroots opposition to the Obama Administration generally, and the PPACA especially.
>>55318484
States: >Yeah, we registered all of our adjudicated mentally ill this time we promise.
You'd be surprised what the Federal government would do if the majority of the states threatened to stop collecting taxes.
Tea Party:
>we're a grassroots movement for accountability and limited government tyranny
>Retards: MUH JESUS FUCK NIGGERS FUCK TAXES GUMMINT SUCKS WE NEED TO CENSOR LIBERALS
>retards overwhelm original movement and kill it
>tea party now an insult to refer to retards
Occupy:
>we're a grassroots movement for accountability and limited corporate tyranny
>SJW's: MUH FEMINISM FUCK WHITEY FUCK COPS PATRIARCHY SUCKS WE NEED TO CENSOR CONSERVATIVES
>SJW's overwhelm original movement and kill it
>OWS and "progressive stack" now an insult to refer to SJW's
This is nothing new.
>>55317408
>what went wrong with the 1%-funded astroturf movement?
Gee I don't know.
>>55317408
honestly, it was co-opted by gov't agents/soros-funded agents and then turned into a parody of itself. plus, the media just said whatever the fuck they wanted to about it and no one ever looked into the actual movement itself, so your everyday joe who relies on tv for info thought it was said parody.
/r/ing a comic about this where the wall st. guy is telling the media what to say about the occupy movement.
Too many evangelical rednecks pushing their religion shit instead of real issues like the debt, taxes, and regulation. It could've been a real libertarian revolution if it stuck to this. Instead too much stupid shit like "bomb iran" or "stop gay marriage".
>>55320466
that religious element was probably a tiny minority of the actual movement, yet it somehow, surprisingly, amazingly, got 99% of the media coverage...i don't know, in an attempt to maybe...DISCREDIT the movement?
It ran its course. It has had tangible success in getting candidates in office. And also in costing the Republicans some elections.
But like most political movements it isn't built to last.
>>55317408
It was co-opted. It started out as reasonable outrage at the situation going on with the bailouts and ever bigger and bigger government. This is the beginning of the Tea Party that is not recorded in the media - at this point is was still an online-only phenomenon.
Once the establishment powers noticed how popular it was becoming, they stated to act. Republicans claimed it as their support, left-wing media started a campaign to make it out to be some kind of nut-job weirdos, finding the most absurd people to quote or otherwise demonstrate as a typical supporter. The "Leaders" who started emerging and saying ridiculous things were shills.
The Tea Party that started online is completely unrelated to what emerged at the polls and how it continues today. It's basically a separate phenomenon and entirely astroturf.
The real Tea Party is still the Libertarians who were likely the originators.
>>55317408
ironically, capitalism
>>55318222
This guy remembers correctly.
>>55317408
It started out as a grassroots movement] by Ron Paul supporters around 2007. Was then later hijacked by the neo-statist RINOs and moral majority/religious right fanatics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKZmIzEMUN8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bNiDx7qTjA
>>55319052
You've nailed it 100%. I remember the original ideals of both Tea Party and Occupy being nearly indistinguishable.
>>55317408
it was a corporate owned scam like libertarianism
>>55317408
The media was against it and the republicans hijacked it before it could grow into anything else. The last thing any side wants is an upset in the status quo.
The propaganda against it was too strong
>>55318222
Don't forget, it was astroturfed and co-opted by the people who fund the republican establishment to debilitate it.
Unlike Occupy, which may have fallen apart on its own because they lacked a coherent agenda and were destabilized by SJW types who didn't know shit about banking.
>>55318740
>You'd be surprised what the Federal government would do if the majority of the states threatened to stop collecting taxes.
You realize that the States don't come to your door to collect Federal taxes right? You aren't that fucking stupid?
The could not collect State taxes, which would be lulzy to see since most of the Red States are utterly desperate for them.
Congrats on being the dumbest MF I have spoken to today.
did any of you read some of the platforms of the people that were running?
it was authoritarian.
>>55318222
>In the grassroots phase, there was a very high female representation
well there's your problem right there. it was designed to fail.
>>55321271
Yeah, it totally needed the support of white internet shut-ins.
>>55321252
The states can block the IRS from operating with their borders and steal social security and medicare payments by giving businesses an overall rate decrease in exchange for paying directly to the state government. One year of a successful tax boycott and the US bond market will completely collapse. The federal government can not exist without cooperation from the vast majority of states.
