http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/nov/09/catalonia-mps-to-vote-on-secession-plan-in-showdown-with-spains-government
>>55317197
>Catalonia is not Spain
>>55317197
I want this to happen, I was denied the joy of watching Scotland secede and top the failed states index. But this would be just as good.
>>55317197
Why do they want to secede?
>>55318095
Well, Spain is already a failed state. Probably because it's not white.
>>55318128
All sandniggers can do is fight between themselves.
>>55318128
They want more money from the central government. They are the kikes of spain.
>seceding
>ever
Failed state within 15 years
>>55318253
Wait what? how the fuck does seceding from Spain get them more money from central government?
>>55318382
EU, nigger.
>>55318319
It is already a failed state, it's part of SPAIN, did you forget that?
fucking shitskins spics
![RaTQU[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/BGOrjB1.gif "RaTQU[1].gif")
IT'S THE FUCKING CATALONIA WINE MIXER
>>55318382
The independence movement started because they wanted more privileges from the central government. Spain is divided in "Comunidades Autónomas", some of them have more privileges than others. They've been threatening to secede for years, but giving them more money usually deters them. This time tho, we'll have to see. Hopefully we get to remove catalan kebab, but I cant see it happening tho, considering we are not self determinated either. At this point we are nothing more than a german colony.
>>55318416
EU wont accept them. not without a lengthy application and full bureaucratic red tape, they made this very clear when Scotland tried.
>>55318095
>Implying your GDP wouldn't hit the floor if Scotland fucked off
The only thing Bongs ever had was fishing and you communist fucks made sure that industry died off years ago. Without Scotland you cunts are dead in the water(but so are they since they've been voting commie too)
Poor Wales, stuck on an island with a bunch of retards and nowhere to go
>>55318416
The EU was a mistake.
Is this the same Catalonia with gays and lesbians everywhere?
>>55317197
What will happen to F.C. Barcelona? :O
>>55318690
Pic related is catalonia.
>>55318617
You are all kebab.
>>55318625
Delicious.
>>55318666
It was an attempt to fight American hegemony, how could it go right?
>>55318720
R A R E
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>>55318737
Absolute edge
>>55318210
>Probably because It's not white
Show me a pic of your president.
>>55318756
Welcome to 4chin, newfriend.
>>55318756
What happened to you, Jamal? A spaniard talked shit about your waifu? Considering you are from the USA, you are either a nigger, a wetback or a mixed german/anglo. In all three cases you are the scum of the world, so fuck off you kike loving shit.
>>55317197
this time for real or?
nobody takes you seriously if you keep saying you will
>>55318737
>spray-paints anarchy symbol
>wants bigger government
>>55318834
Those little girls are really kawaii, Spain.
>>55318834
>2015
>still having a king
>>55318737
What's with the tourist go home I keep seeing in pictures from Europe? Don't these fags know how an economy works?
We shall help our impotent grandpa and build a wall around Catalunya. That will show em.
>>55317197
>they are targeting spanish-speaking people
>they speak catalan
>put up a sign in english
ok josep
>>55318868
It doesn't even award a response, you are literally a third world shithole. Pic related.
>>55318646
I'm sorry, I cant hear your bullshit over the fact London alone makes more money then the entire of Scotland
>>55318970
He would actually win every elections here tbqh. He's been raised since a kid to serve and love his country, unlike the democratic chosen politicians.
>>55318834
top fucking kek
>>55317246
>>55319399
>Aragon
>>55318646
>Poor Wales, stuck on an island with a bunch of retards and nowhere to go
thanks for acknowledging us ameribro
we're doing pretty okay but i sometimes get worried that immigrants will set our sights on us once england gets fully enriched and try to kill our culture and language
>>55319011
This is how much they know about economics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSGp2Hh1jQ4
Hopefully the cûcks don't win like in Québec.
>>55319492
Doesn't change the fact that the eastern iberian used to be a separate country.
I have some family ties to Spain, and my cousins gf wont shut up about Catalan shit being completely different from Spanish shit.
New flag for flag collection
I dont mind that desu senpai
>>55319737
Thats cool.
Any particular reason to cherry pick that part of the history?
>completely different from Spanish shit.
Catalonia is a shithole compared to Asturias or the Basque Country.
>>55320234
The point was to show the american anon that the eastern iberia used to be a country separate from the one that became spain.
>Catalonia is a shithole compared to Asturias or the Basque Country.
That is an undeniable fact.
>>55317197
all those white people
>>55318416
Then its a double failure
Catalunya, triomfan!!! ;_;7
Will /pol/ get a Catalonia flag?
Consider the fiscal benefit to our rare flag portfolios.
>>55320930
We already have it, the problem is that catalonians can't afford Internet
OBEY THE LAW
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>>55320435
A separate crown, not a separate country.
Just a package of smaller kingdoms, like the other half of Spain. Means nothing. Go ask in Valencia see what they think about it.
>>55320435
> the one that became Spain
And this is retarded. Both crowns merged into Spain. They became Spain together. Spain is unified hispania, not just Castilla.
>>55317197
all catalonian leaders are corrupt. they are using national feelings to make them believe they are better and special snowflakes but in the end the regular catalonian pleb will not benefit from it, just the leader getting richer.
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>>55317197
>IT'S HAPPENING: CATALUNYA TO SECEDE FROM ESPAÑA
Approves.
>>55318737
>tourists go home
>but refugees are welcome
How is it possible to be this kuked?
>>55322095
Spain is kebab. They are as much Europe as Turkey is. Better sooner than later.
>>55317197
I AM JUST WAITING ON THE REPORT WHERE IT SAYS THAT GRINGOS FOUND OIL IN CATALONIA.
fucking gringos not only you fuck With American spics now your going for the kill on the European side
>>55319732
Garde l'espoir mon ami.
>>55320818
Kim jon un -tier
>>55319737
>we wuz independent for a certain period of history
>hundreds of years under a bigger nation
>still have own language and traditions
>like literally 30% of the other territories
>play victim cause we don't get mo money fo dem <whatever they want to spend it on>
>>55319492
is that Catalonia?
>>55322200
USA USA!! Dont like it? Go to catalina
>>55317197
Is this good or bad?
>>55322657
>play victim cause we don't get mo money fo dem <whatever they want to spend it on>
It's important to point out this is money Catalonia gives to the spanish government, not the other way around.
>>55317197
This is what happens when you let a liberal cesspool fester, it grows into a cancer that kills the nation.
>>55317197
Catalonia is Spain.
Deal with it, accept it, get over it.
Last thing we need on this Earth is another gay Spanish flag.
What the fuck is wrong with you spics and your bright colours?
Go away.
>>55320234
This is wrong.
Dumnonia (Cornwall) was absorbed by Wessex back then.
This map belongs in le trash can, along with Shatalans.
>>55322979
nigs gon nig
>>55322926
that's true ofc, it's called centralized government. I do defend federalism, it would make it harder for money grabbers, but pushing for independence, promising the people that they're gonna keep the part of the constitution that they like, and change the ones that they need to... it's just such an empty promise
>>55317197
I want to see Spain split up, but it's not likely to happen.
Not gonna get my hopes up after that Scotland secession disappointment.. would've been great to see the UK split up.
>>55323159
Dumnonia wasn't absorbed until the early 800s, this map is pre-800 because Rheged, the Lombards, and Visigoths are still around. ERE still holds North Africa too.
>>55319732
>Quebec
Do they not seem to remember they're not French any more?
