>The net direct contribution of migrants tends to be smaller than that of native-borns, but this is because they pay less taxes, not because they claim more benefits. The main reason behind them paying less taxes is lower levels of employment, especially among women. The net fiscal contributions of migrants could therefore be increased by increasing their labour force participation. Their overall conclusion is that migration is “neither a significant gain nor drain for the public purse”
so basically your points about refugees being a drain is false
bumping it up
>>55311333
You really expect pro-globalist trash to say anything negative about the precious invaders?
Suck a dick.
>>55311333
Refugees being a drain? What's faggot have you been reading? They're ISIS fighters. They're not going there to "drain the economy". They're going there to conquer Europe for Allah, and submit it to sharia law.
>>55311333
Because that excuses jamal and ahmeds rape of 6 yeat old elsa, is what youre getting to right?
>>55311333
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
OP is a faggot
Nobody gives a shit about economic implications
>>55311333
>https://agenda.weforum.org/
nice bait you got me to reply
>>55311333
this shit is unprecedented, and they're making all these grand assumption and calling it fact?
fucking really?
woof
>>55312928
there have been other refugee/immigrant influxes in the past, read up on history.
>>55312987
Cats don't woof, you dumb fucking Islamic terrorist. You'd know that if you didn't have an irrational fear for all things good and nice like domesticated pets.
>>55311333
>speculative bullshit
>>55313039
moo?
>>55311333
Unless presented with the raw data that includes earnings I won't believe it.
Plenty of western countries have a small but extremely wealthy population of "migrants". Compare their net contributions to the rest of the migrant population and I'd wager that the majority of migrants would be a net loss to the state.
>>55311333
>main reason behind them paying less taxes is lower levels of employment
>implying they will even work at all
>>55312996
hahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
>>55311333
Nice try lumping in all migrants together. Productive Eastern Europeans and Asians are getting the subhuman (sand)niggers out of the red.
>>55311333
Nice unbiased website.
I have a story to propose you:
"Why Hitler did nothing wrong"
https://wpww14/88.hitlerdindunuffin.com/hitlerisasaint/
>>55311333
Anyone have that Norwegian study of expected life time tax payer costs / gain for each immigrant?
Was something like:
Swede +1.5m NOK
European +0.5m NOK
Iraqi -5m NOK
Somali -10m NOK
>>55311333
But they do contribute to the economy in a fucked up way.
Basically most locals are already saturated with debt and can't take on any more. So they don't recklessly spend, migrants however are completely unburdened by debt and are quite willing to take out a ton of payday loans spend spend spend without understanding the consequences of their actions.
When they too are debt saturated and cannot pay back their loans it doesn't matter, another thousand migrants have come in ready to do the same thing.
This is how your country dies.
>>55311333
>The net fiscal contributions of migrants could therefore be increased by increasing their labour force participation.
too bad they come to these European countries with no intention of working. why do you think they skip all the countries without a socialist handout system? they flock to germany and scandinavia because they get plenty of gibs me dats
>>55311333
>so basically your points about refugees being a drain is false
Even if you believe this bullshit it means the overarching rationale for immigration that's trumpeted out again and again -> population decline, therefore immigration because someone's gotta earn money and do jobs - is false.
So you're agreeing that it's all a big scam and a population replacement for no reason.
>>55313255
Considering this "study" comes from banker backed globalist scum that is probably what their calculations are based on. Infinitely growing debt.
>>55311333
i remember reading this. here is the thing: when they make these predictions they are assuming that the current flood of immigrants has the same educational background as other groups had in the past. also, the lack of female labor force participation has cultural reasons, e.g. muslim men wont allow their women to work, why would that change?
>>55313247
EACH?
fucking hell
>>55313255
ITT smart people
If theyre a net benefit then you won't have any problem sending 20 million of them to Belgium, right?
>>55313176
>Nice try lumping in all migrants together. Productive Eastern Europeans and Asians are getting the subhuman (sand)niggers out of the red.
This. The study they're referring to looked at the 'foreign-born' in general. When we're actually talking about illegal immigrants/asylum seekers from Africa and Asia.
>>55311333
The way I see it:
Instead of getting random people from a handful of countries we could be hand-picking the most needed specialists from all over the world.
In that way they are a huge drain on our potential.
>>55311333
>not because they claim more benefits
that's not how it works here in Canada and our niggers are more educated than yours
"Immigrants arriving in Canada during the late 1990s were definitely highly educated. In 2001,
fully 42% of adult “recent” immigrants (those arriving during the previous five years) had a
university degree, and a historically high 54% entered under the “economic” admissions class
(only 31% in the family class). The situation was very different, twenty years earlier. In 1981
only 19% of recent immigrants had degrees, and during the early 1980s, 37% entered in the
“economic” class, with 43% in the family class. Immigrants of the late 1990s were increasingly
selected because of their potential contribution to the Canadian economy."
>>55313859
UK and USA immigrants: get your act together.
>>55313402
oh and the past has shown: 42% of the syrians that already are in germany (not including the refugees) are welfare recipients.
65% of the iraqis are unemployed. 53% of the afghans, 48% of the pakistanis, 41% of the iranians, 90% !!! of the lebanese. those are all groups that come here in large numbers. the majority of them hasnt even finished basic education. yep, sure, they will be a net benefit. unemployment among germans? 7.5% at the time the other data was published, even lower by now.
>>55313117
they are here in Canada, I did a whole project on it.
Immigrants in Norway are a net loss to the economy
http://www.emnbelgium.be/publication/report-norwegian-welfare-and-migration-committee
Immigrants in Sweden are a net loss to the economy
http://www.amid.dk/pub/papers/AMID_48-2006_Jan_Ekberg.pdf
Denmark saved billions by restricting immigration:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/putting-a-price-on-foreigners-strict-immigration-laws-save-denmark-billions-a-759716.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/denmark/8492822/Denmarks-immigration-laws-save-country-6-billion.html
Increases in diversity correlate with problems worldwide, and the downsides of diversity effect everyone, it's a universal human problem:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/the-downside-of-difference/story-e6frgcjx-1111112914289
More diversity in police departments correlates with more abuse, poorer performance and less trust:
http://www.mediafire.com/?1fe8x0egftpbp6f
Increased diversity correlates sharply with decreased community spirit, decreased altruism, and depressed social capital, less ethical behavior, more crime, fear, isolation and depression:
http://www.city-journal.org/html/eon2007-06-25jl.html
Diversity experiments in Germany end in disaster
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany-s-immigrants-integration-in-theory-alienation-in-practice-a-433006.html
Harvard study proving diversity doesn't work and is disastrous
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x/abstract
Also, a nice little study from Cornell University about how segregation creates peace:
http://arxiv.org/abs/1110.1409
Multiculturalism doesn't work:
http://books.google.com/books?id=zqMCc37dW1kC&pg=PA129
http://books.google.com/books?id=ZyAt3T1V4EcC&pg=PT97
http://books.google.com/books?id=TmlGzr4s0uMC&pg=PA16
>>55313859
>Zimbabwe 5th
I'm guessing those are all poor white Rhodesians who were forced to flee
>>55313406
1 NOK is about 11 euro cents.
So 1.1 million is about 14k euro per year - sounds about right.
>>55313117
In one decade, between 2001 and 2011, the population of immigrants passed from 9.9% to 12.6% in Quebec. Half of which (43%) of all immigrants did not know a word a French.
The unemployment rate of new arrivals was 11.6%, 4% more than the average population.
Every year 50,000 or so immigrants enter Quebec. Africa, especially the Maghreb (French Africa) constitutes the largest portion of new arrivals. Between 2001 and 2013, 1/5 new immigrants originated from Algeria or Morocco.
//
en une décennie, de 2001 à 2011, la proportion d’immigrants est passée de 9,9 % à 12,6 %.
près de la moitié (43 %) des immigrants ne connaissent pas un mot de français.
le taux de chômage chez les nouveaux arrivants était de 11,6 %, soit quatre points plus élevé que dans la population en général.
Chaque année, entre 50 000 et 55 000 étrangers (51 959 en 2013) s’installent au Québec. L’Afrique — au premier chef le Maghreb — constitue le principal bassin de recrutement. De 2009 à 2013, un immigrant sur cinq (21 %) provenait d’Algérie ou du Maroc.//
>>55311333
>"hey, /pol/. you guys were wrong refugees gud huehue rofl lmao"
>conveniently forgets the thefts, the violence, the riots, the murders and the rapes
Not a drain, huh?
>>55314090
>http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1467-9477.2007.00176.x/abstract
This harvard study says
>In the long run, however, successful immigrant societies have overcome such fragmentation by creating new, cross-cutting forms of social solidarity and more encompassing identities. Illustrations of becoming comfortable with diversity are drawn from the US military, religious institutions, and earlier waves of American immigration.
>>55313117
The Economical, Political, and Social Liabilities of Canadian Immigration
Marked garishly on the Toronto Coat of Arms, adapted during the 1997 amalgamation of the seven boroughs composing the city, lies the motto asserting that “Diversity [is] Our Strength”. Canada, more notably the Toronto area, historically represents a hub for immigrant reception. Canadians often proudly state that immigrants founded their country, and, to this day, continue to build upon this foundation. The country’s laws, since the implementation of the Multicultural Act in 1988, consider all ethnic and cultural groups as equal. This act promotes the “Canadian heritage [of multiculturalism] as a fundamental characteristic” of the nation. The assertion that Canada has been innately multicultural is true. However, until the implementation of post Second World War policies, Canada’s cultural identity was never monolithic.
While Canadian immigration policies properly functioned in the past, it is argued by the two economists Herbert Grubel and Patrick Grady that immigration, in its current state, imposes a fiscal burden upon the Canadian populace. They claim in their research “Immigration and the Canadian Welfare State (2011)” that the average immigrant utilizes more benefits, than he repays in taxes. Therefore, concluding that current immigration policies bring a net-loss to the Canadian economy. In support to this claim, the negative economical, social, and political factors of the current high immigration rates to Canada must be analyzed. In doing so, this text aims to contradict those favorable to the current migration system by citing important sources. Before pursuing, the distinction between an economical migrant and a refugee must be clarified. However, when discussing aggregate immigration, refugees count for total immigration to Canada. The research does not aim to belittle immigrants, but to criticize the audacious choices of Government.
>>55313117
The first step in understanding Canada’s multicultural policies of the twenty-first century requires a brief overview of the country’s immigration system. This system comprises the three following periods: war immigration, post-war immigration, and contemporary immigration. During all three, the majority of the migrants received settle in the three largest metropolitans of Canada: Toronto, Vancouver, and Montreal. Prior to the Great War, immigrants mostly originated from North-Western European countries, although many were once Chinese and Mediterranean nationals. Before the Second World War, immigration policies may be described as exclusionary. Therefore, the belief that Canada always accepted immigrants from all cultures is historically incorrect. Conversely, many legislative and social principals, such as the Chinese Immigration Act (1923) which denied the suffrage of Chinese-Canadian railroad workers, demonstrate the intolerance exhibited by Canada during the time. Until the Krash of 1929, Canada welcomed more than 50,000 immigrants every year. Following the Krash, immigration rates drastically declined to an estimated 10,000 a year to combat the economic depression. This description marks the beginning of the first round of systemic change to immigrant acceptance. The commencement of the second period coincides with Canada’s post-war policies. Before the policy reform by Conservative Prime Minister, Brian Mulroney, during the mid-1980s, “the immigration movement to Canada was regulated in accordance with economic conditions (Bissett).” During this period, immigration policies properly functioned as the newly arrived migrants did not economically strain the populace, despite causing minor social conflict. Mulroney raised these rates in 1985 to sway the ethnic [minority] vote. Mulroney’s successor, Barbara McDougal, continued this trend in 1990 by raising levels to an annual rate of new arrivals to a quarter million.
>>55313117
Set annual levels of economic migrants employed by the Conservative party throughout the late 1980s define the third, contemporary period of immigration to Canada. Since, politicians prefer unchanging, and even increasing incremental levels of migration, regardless of economical strain. The remainder of this essay focuses on this third period, while comparing certain of its elements to those of the previous two. Although a vague description of our extensive and interesting history of immigration to Canada was given, the condensed timeline emphasizes and defines the limits essential to this essay alone. The timeline in no way represents an accurate depiction of our history to Canada. As a Canadian citizen, the question of my country’s survival and future is worrisome. I am obliged to put my people before migrants to assure our own prosperity. More importantly, my polite countrymen envisage the scrutiny of immigration as a taboo. To break this taboo, the topic of immigration must be openly discussed.
As previously mentioned, the contemporary immigration reform begins with the augmented rates applied by the Conservative government between 1985 and 1990. The former executive director of Canada’s immigration service during this time, James Bissett, describes that “less than 20% of immigrants [arriving] to Canada [were] selected because of their skills and training.” The research-study conducted by Grady and Grubel, which serves as the basis for this essay, evaluates data from a 2006 Census database. Although no government departments actually calculate total spending on immigration, this research estimates “the fiscal burden created by recent immigration to Canada. (Grubel, Grady)” The database collected its figures from government records of immigrants arriving between 1987 and 2004. It is essential to note that the first figures collected coincide with the introduction of Mulroney’s immigration reform.
>>55314090
Those are some nice resources, Candabro.
>>55313117
The evaluation utilizes two variables: the average taxes paid by immigrants, and their average benefits received. During the fiscal year of 2005-06, an excess of 6051$ was received by the average immigrant. If we disregard inflation, he would receive 272,295$ (in 2005 dollars) over 45 years, or the mean lifespan of immigrants coming to Canada. According to the study, government spending attributed solely to the 3.4 million immigrants living in the country is estimated between 16.3 billion and 23.6 billion (in 2005) dollars. This aggregate represents a minimum of 2.3% of the federal budget during that year. However, the sum disregards other government spending on boards such as “the Immigration and Refugee Board, the Citizenship and Immigration Canada, and the Canadian Border Service agency (Gallagher)”, for which total funding is not made public.
In order to invalidate the fundamental tenant that the children of migrants would repay their parents’ debt to the country, we must logically prove that the current system, although devastating in nature, properly functions according to the present policies of mass-immigration. First of all, politicians openly declare that immigrants and temporary foreign workers serve to fill the jobs that native Canadians do not wish to perform. The essay will discuss this fallacy later, but it is no less a common declaration. That being said, if Canadians do not initially wish to occupy these positions, the supply of workers for these occupations must be almost non-existent. This may be partially due to location, lack of skill amongst the population, or low wages due to competition. Consequentially, the wages for these occupations must be severely low such that Canadians choose not to perform them. Assuming that immigrant reception serves primarily to fill these positions, their income must be vastly lower than the national average.
>>55313117
According to Grubel and Grady, immigrants earn roughly 10,000$ less than the national average. However, one may not assume that institutional racism is cause for the lower wages of immigrants, for their children and grandchildren earn comparable wages to the national average. This proves the previous assumption that Canada’s immigration system functions according to its nature, as economic integration remains an undeniable fact. In addition, the incomes of immigrants increase “as they adapt to, and become integrated into, the Canadian market. (Frenette and Morissette (2003); Worswick (2004); Picot and Sweetman (2005), and Picot (2008))” Unless the children of immigrants would repay the debts generated by their parents through taxation, the claim that immigration positively affects the national economy is invalid. While immigration contributes to national Gross Domestic Product, it also contributes to the decrease in wealth for all natural citizens. Therefore, wealth is created by immigration, but in detriment to the lower and middle class. Especially youthful job seekers suffer from such a system, as they tend to perform unwanted jobs filled by the more skilled and experienced economic migrants. Unemployment for persons between the age of 14 and 28 remains at 14%, or double the national average (Bernard, Statistics Canada). In addition, previous immigration policies reflect upon the demand for additional workers, taking into consideration the needs of both public and private sectors. Such planning greatly reduces the financial burden upon the nation. Even prior to set immigration rates, “[economic migration to the country] did not contribute to economic growth, but in fact caused a decline in per-capita income and real wages of Canadians. (Macdonald, 1985)”
>>55311333
>let's create jobs out of thin air
>>55313117
Canada, being an autonomous and unique nation, also possesses an immigration system differing from other Western countries. Since 1990, Canada accepts the highest number of immigrants than any other nation, in proportion to the current population (CIA, 2007). Canada, unlike the European-Union, self-governs their immigration policies. The country also does not possess any federal right-wing party which thrives on anti-immigration policies. Although these right-leaning parties never held political power, they greatly influence immigration policies in their respective countries. In Canada, the Liberal federal party wishes to increase immigration from 0.7% to 1% of the total population (from 250,000 to 300,000), as they “hold the ridings with the largest concentration of new Canadians. (Martin, 2008)” In Europe, such an increase would lead to “political suicide. (Bélanger and Malenfant, 2005)” Outside of Quebec, immigration is not only accepted, but celebrated. Although the essay just mentioned that Canada possesses no anti-immigration party, the Quebec Separatist movement was exempted since it is not truly federalist. The possibility of provincial separation contributes to the Anglophone Canadians’ admiration for immigrants. In order to combat rising separatist sentiments, Prime Minister Pierre Trudeau adopted Bilingualism and Biculturalism as official social policies, leading to the previously mentioned Multiculturalism Act (Hawkins, 1988: 390-92). The Parti Québécois as well as the Action Démocratique de Québec contemplate “lowering immigration in Quebec […] since it is the main factor in the decline of the usage of the French language. (Termote 2008)”
>>55313117
While Trudeau’s philosophy and politics temporarily calmed the separatist movement; they inevitably will destabilize the balance between French, Aboriginal and English Canada by introducing a fourth lingual competitor. By 2017, between 6,872,000 and 9,044,000 persons whose mother tongue is neither English nor French will live in Canada (Beaujot, 2003). The introduction of immigrants, who are more likely to adopt English as their second language, “threatens national Bilingualism and unity. (Beaujot)” The now “defunct Economic Council of Canada came to similar conclusions. (Swan, Avert, et al., 1991)” This brings secondary social consequences into question. If we consider mass immigration of ethnic minorities into Canada as a deliberate attempt to gain political power, and this at the detriment of the native populace, whether done by domestic or foreign powers, it may be considered as a form of genocide under the United-Nations charter. According to the charter, genocide signifies “any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: […] deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part. (UN General Assembly Resolution 206A (III) Article 2, C)” However, the legitimacy of this declaration depends on three assumptions. The first being that domestic politicians and interest groups benefit from mass-immigration without taking into consideration the possible long-term negative effects it could cause. The previous paragraphs prove this. The second assumption corroborates that the policies of mass-immigration go against public desire. While the electorate democratically voted the Conservatives into power in 1985, the party never endorsed mass-immigration as part of their philosophy.
Has anyone brought up the tourism problem?
I can see that going way, way down.
>>55313117
The party also never held a referendum regarding mass-immigration. Regardless, historically, no other federal party in Canada disputed mass-immigration at the time, leaving voters without a choice. While immigration is said to be generally accepted by ethnic Canadians, no official government research attests to this. Thirdly, not enough time was granted for Canadians to independently develop a national identity, complementary to the British culture. Laotian nationals having immigrated to Toronto admitted they “were concerned about multiculturalism being too pervasive. Those interviewed would welcome the real Canadian identity allowing assimilation. (Harles, 1997: 733-34)” As a result, multicultural policies contribute primarily towards the decline of national identity. Since these policies suppressed the Canadian identity from developing, they may be considered as genocidal. Canada’s immigration policies dramatically changed over the course of the country’s history. Although today’s mass-immigration policies consist of set levels, chosen by politicians who disregard public opinion. While immigration may be generally accepted by a large portion of French, English and Aboriginals, the public’s unawareness caused primarily by provided misinformation in Canada’s educational system shapes the belief regarding immigration and multiculturalism. Hopefully, insight through open debate would clarify the true nature of the country’s immigration system. It is commonly said that immigration contributes towards the Canadian economy. However, Grubel and Grady estimate that immigration creates an enormous liability for tax-payers. Canada spent 3.2% of its total budget in 2005 on immigration, while politicians suggest the system benefits the economy. In addition, immigration causes innumerable social predicaments, proof of the failures of multiculturalism in its current sense.
>>55313117
Although these troubles were unlisted, many may be found in the various literature provided in the reference list. As Hermes said in ‘Prometheus Bound’, Canadians have no-one to blame but themselves.
“Remember then my warning before the act:
when you are trapped by ruin don’t blame fortune.
Don’t say that Zeus has brought you to Calamity
that you could not foresee: do not do this:
but blame yourselves: now you know what you’re doing:
and with this knowledge neither suddenly
nor secretly your own want of good sense
has tangled you in the net of ruin, past
all hope of rescue.” –Hermes
>>55313117
References:
Belanger, Malenfant. “Population Projections of Visible Minority Groups, Canada, Provinces and Regions.” Statistics Canada, no. 91-541-XIE, 2005.
Bernard. “Unemployment Dynamics Among Canada’s Youth.” Economic Insights, Statistics Canada, June 2013. ISBN 978-1-100-22298-1 http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/11-626-x/11-626-x2013024-eng.pdf
Beaujot. “Effect of Immigration on the Canadian Population: Replacement Migration?” Population Studies Centre, University of Western Ontario, 2003.
Bissett. “Effects of Mass Immigration.” The Fraser Institute, the Effects of Mass Immigration on Canadian Living Standards and Society, 2009. Retrieved March 30th 2015.
Central Intelligence Agency. “Field listing: Net Migration Rate.” The World Fact Book, 2014. Retrieved on May 11th 2015.
Frenette, Marc, and Rene Morrissette. “Will They Ever Converge? Earnings of Immigrant and Canadian- born Workers over the Last Two Decades.” Research paper series, 2003. Catalogue no.
11F0019MIE – No. 215. Statistics Canada, Analytical Studies Branch.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/bsolc/olc-cel/olc-cel?catno=11F0019M2003215&lang=eng
Gallagher. “The Creation of a Global Suburb and its Impact on Canadian National Unity.” The Fraser Institute, the Effects of Mass Immigration of Canadian Living Standards and Society, chapter 9, 2009. Retrieved March 30th 2015.
Gallagher. “Social Issues.” The Fraser Institute, the Effects of Mass Immigration on Canadian Living Standards and Society, chapter 4, 2009. Retrieved March 30th 2015.
>>55313117
Grubel, Grady. “Immigration and the Canadian Welfare State: 2011.” The Fraser Institute, 2011. Retrieved on March 23rd 2015.
Hansen. “Chinese Canadian Recognition and Restitution Act.“38th Parliament, 1st Session.” http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?DocId=1659497&Language=E&Mod e=1&Parl=38&Ses=1
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Picot, Garnett. “Immigrant Economical and Social Outcomes in Canada: Research and Data Development at Statistics Canada.” Statistics Canada, No 319, 2008.
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>>55311333
>crime, violence and civil war isn't a drain
>all the extra infrastructure, tax-funded jobs etc necessary to host these people isn't a drain
Cherry picking as fuck.
>>55314531
well the jobs are actually there (and we are at a historical low of unemployment), but they arent exactly jobs that can be done by unwilling, uneducated immigrants that dont speak our language. even if that was the case, our laws put unemployed non-europeans at the end of the line when it comes to filling positions, which is generally a good thing but also keeps unemployment high among them.
>>55314381
Why do you actually believe that part? It's literally saying that in the short term it's an economic drain and that refugees will never repay their debt/liability to the country that welcomes them. In the long run however, there won't be a native population, so don't worry about it there. fuck you.
>>55312996
Yes and all the unskilled and retards were sent straight back to the source, only the skilled remained, fucking idiot.
>>55311333
>Their overall conclusion is that migration is “neither a significant gain nor drain for the public purse”
Until they breed like rats, blow things up, and form ethnic gangs the police cannot arrest because meany-head.
>>55311333
>“neither a significant gain nor drain for the public purse”
>not a significant gain
So why let them in?
>>55314795
Immigrants to Canada are an economic liability despite their high levels of education and the country's higher (highest in the world) level of assimilation/acceptance.
>>55311333
>They aren't a drain on resources
>They just aren't employed so they don't pay tax
>Because they don't have jobs so they claim benefits instead
>They aren't a drain on resources
Someone wrote this, proof read it, then went through it once more and thought it was logical. Belgium confirmed next Sweden then, you're already halfway there, Kompany is the whitest person on your NT.
>>55314769
The crime is because they are part of the poor and lower class of society, not because they're immigrants
>>55314990
because what else are we going to do? send them back to the war-torn county that they came from? that's inhumane
>>55315033
"Lower levels of employment" means low skill/no skill workers, not unemployed.
>>55313255
Good point, Nigel.
>>55314090
Good anon.
Many thanks. Much appreciated
>>55315657
Okay.
They still bring crime and shit.
>>55316060
Refugees are to flee their country to immediately surrounding countries to wait out the war, not skip thousands of miles of peaceful lands for a country that offers the most gibs. Those dumb faggots want to be held safe as an international refugee, they can obey the laws. So yes, send those subhuman criminals back to their shitty wartorn nations and they can obey international law and flee to neighboring countries to wait out the war.
>>55311333
>so basically your points about refugees being a drain is false
Everything they do is fucking subsidized, fucking EVERYTHING. HOW THE FUCK IS THERE EVER A NET GAIN? IT'S ALL LIES.
>>55314090
Saved. Thanks Canadabro.
>>55314090
Good shit
>>55314090
Number of violent crimes perpetrated by immigrants in Greece is almost as high as violent crimes by natives in 2014 and 2015 in some categories, according to Greek Police (first 6 months of each year for side by side comparison).
http://www.astynomia.gr/images/stories/2015/statistics15/2015_epikrateia.pdf
(use google translate if you wanna know more)
