>Grandpa smokes weed for the first time in his life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7UXL_lJ0BA
HURR DEGENERATE
HURR M-M-M-MUH REEFER MADNESS
DUDE
WEED
LMAO
2015
So was heroin, cocaine and amphetamine. So why arent we dojng them legally now?
>>55309783
>>55309800
>>55309835
It's so beautiful that 4chan brings together diverse cultures for a common cause.
>>55311114
Percocet, Lidocaine, amphetamine HCL(Adderal)
You were saying?
>>55311114
There is much more money to be made off them remaining illegal.
>>55309749
>Netherlands
>>55311177
No there isn't the pharmeceutical equivalents is literally a writ large for printing money.
The only money in banning drugs is in law enforcement, and the justice system.
>>55309749
>>55311166
The consumers of drugs do it again
Using medecine to push their morals and values on others
They found better substitues that are more efficient
They dont need some selfish faggot consuming drugs out of boredom to tell them how to do their job
You folks are like the sluts and feminists all you want is to impose your lifestyle on others
You hide behind the few scientists who worked their entire lives to get where they arr now, to justify consuming drugs
You want to take some of their credit to try to elevate your social standing
>>55311255
Youre going to be disappointed. Noggers dont nees drugs to end up in prison
>>55311177
Shut the fuck up, you said that years ago about weed. Now you are wrong, get over yourself you inflated ego faggot.
Fucking coward.
>>55309749
i'm pretty sure that leeches were used in 1850 as well. i guess leeches don't fit your degenerate agenda.
>>55309749
Weed is sorcery. It is a magic potion which puts a spell on you, opening you up to demons and leaving you dazed and confused. Sorcery comes from the greek word pharmakeia, like pharmacy, it's potions/drugs.
"But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
Revelation 21:8
If you want to give up your salvation and go to hell righteously for smoking the 'whacky backy' then go ahead. Don't say I didn't warn you.
>>55311114
I don't know.
Cocaine is just pure win, and amphetamines are so useful it's not even funny.
Maybe the government doesn't want people to be creative and fruitful, as that would make them less dependent on welfare.
>>55311571
maggots are pretty useful
lool granpa hittin ice pipe. fookin hilarious m9
ITS 2K15 ERRYBODY GETTIN STONED
>>55309749
>he tries lighting it like it's meth
>>55312591
CHILL BRUH
hit the bong man, relax
>>55311571
Actually the 1800s is when their use declined. But leeches are still used in medicine and have proven benefits.
>>55312865
Underrated. It might seem gross, but sterile maggots are among the best things EVER for cleaning wounds of dead flesh. They'd be used all the time if people didn't get the heebies from them, as they're dirt cheap and absolutely harmless as therapeutic agents.
>>55309749
People who don't smoke weed don't know what they're missing out of.
>>55309749
stupid cunt should start lifting instead of smoking lolmaoweed
>>55311114
Well, you can actually get all of those in legally in specific circumstances.
>>55309749
>Gramps hits the pipe like it's a meth pipe.
Kek.
>Walks around and has a good time.
Alright then.
>>55313063
No thanks sinner, you can go to hell tbqh.
REPENT OF YOUR WICKED WAYS DRUG ADDICTS AND SORCERERS OF /POL/!
Put down your bong, pick up the BIBLE.
Put down your joint, pick up JESUS.
Put down your shrooms, pick up the GOOD NEWS.
The good news is that you all deserve to DIEEEEEEE and then burn in hell forever. God is so terrifyingly righteous that those who break his eternal law such as marijuana addicts burn alive in hell FOREVERRRRRRRRRRR.
REPENT. Turn from your wicked ways and be reborn with Christ and be saved from the fate that you deserve in the fires of hell.
>>55314169
bump for the sinners on /pol/ to see
>>55309749
This video feels staged as hell. The dumbass tries smoking several times by either lighting the underside of the pipe or by only holding his flame near the pipe. I figured at first he was just old and completely inexperienced with smoking, which is why he wouldn't think to put the fire directly on his bud, but then he mentions how he used to smoke out of a tobacco pipe and now suddenly he's TOTALLY FEELING IT, BRO. DUDE WEED LMAO.
I'm not even anti-marijuana, far from it, but this video is a dumb way to try to convince people to start smoking.
>>55314169
where does in the bible does it say you will go to hell for smoking weed?
Jesus smoked weed with is apostle all the fucking time you fucking Judas
>>55311166
You forgot
Methamphetamine hydrochloride,
Used to tread ADD in kids
You think I'm kidding
Google "desoxyn"
>>55316181
Now the deeds of the flesh are evident, which are: immorality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, enmities, strife, jealousy, outbursts of anger, disputes, dissensions, factions, envying, drunkenness, carousing, and things like these, of which I forewarn you, just as I have forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God.
Galatians 5:19-21
You shall not allow a sorceress to live.
Exodus 22:18
"But for the cowardly and unbelieving and abominable and murderers and immoral persons and sorcerers and idolaters and all liars, their part will be in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, which is the second death."
Revelations 21:8
Outside are the dogs and the sorcerers and the immoral persons and the murderers and the idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices lying.
Revelations 22:15
But El´ymas the sorcerer (for so is his name by interpretation) withstood them, seeking to turn away the deputy from the faith. Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him, and said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord? And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness; and he went about seeking some to lead him by the hand. Then the deputy, when he saw what was done, believed, being astonished at the doctrine of the Lord.
Acts 13:8-12
http://biblehub.com/greek/5331.htm
Sorcery comes from the greek pharmakeia, a misuse of drugs, in this case marijuana, contrary to God's law, and a sin leading to hell
>>55311413
>You folks are like the sluts and feminists all you want is to impose your lifestyle on others
You got that backwards, buddy...
>>55309749
HE'S BURNING THE BOTTOM OF THE PIPE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
THIS GUY IS WAY TOO DUMB TO BE SMOKING WEED. HE'S GOING TO BE RETARDED NO
>>55317290
He could be trying to vape with the pipe.
>>55314169
Damn son, religion made you more paranoid than I, and I smoke 3 joints a day.
If God sends me to hell because of that then maybe I don't want to be near him anyway?
>>55309749
I've seen this episode. He smokes weed a few more times then comes to the conclusion it's not like he expected it to be and basically says he's bored with it and stops smoking completely.
>>55317115
>believing in jew mysticism
This would be funny if it wasn't so fucking retarded and filled with kikery.
>>55317222
And yet, anyone not smoking like you gets ostracised
>>55317551
Enjoy being tortured as painfully as possible for all eternity then I guess.
Any transgression of God's law is punishable by infinite, eternal, agonizing suffering. He is so terrifyingly righteous and just that there is nothing that he hates more than sin, and no one who has sinned (except those covered by the gift of salvation offered through Christ) will be getting into the kingdom of God.
>>55311413
>People consuming drugs are pushing their morals of not banning shit via laws passed by moralfags.
Moralfag persecution complex everyone.
>>55309749
Cocaine was used as medicine too.
>>55317806
People who believe in God out of fear are living in their own fabricated hell, and I highly doubt he'll allow you to access the gates of heaven because of your own selfish need to save your ''soul''.
>>55317806
JUST.
>>55317290
>burning glass with a bic lighters temperature
Who's the retard now
>>55317806
Wait dude you're saying weed doesn't chill you out and bring you closer to nature?
>>55309783
It's cute how they dismiss everything with "DUDE WEED LMAO"
SJWs use this tactic all the time.
>>55318366
I don't believe out of fear, I believe because it is the truth.
I choose to follow God out of his love for me in offering salvation through Christ and ensuring the wicked get their reward that they are earning
>>55309749
Your mom's mouth was therapeutic to my penis but you dont see me making a big deal about it.
>>55309749
Still no reason to legalize smoking it
People against marihuana in 4chan of all places. This shithole has gotten worse
Cannabis is generally just not good for mental stability.
As with any hallucinegenic drug it weakens the mind if you abuse it over time.
It will also make you mentally slower and decrease your reaction time.
A smaller but still signfiicant subset of people will develop serious mental issues when smoking it if not at first then over time.
Anyone who thinks a hallucinegenic drug is "safe" or can be abused by anyone is fooling themselves.
An occasional toke for many can be fine but most consistent stoners will develop issues from it or will certainly have their lives simplified and their quality of life lowered even if they don't notice it (you often can't realize the huge changes it has on you until you've quit for a few days).
I think Weed has the potential for serious harm in many people and it is a drug you can easily get used to abusing for many different reasons.
I support legalization but I also truly believe that most people will be better off leaving it alone or at most only toking on occasion.
>>55309749
>Loch Raven
>fucking Loch Raven
perfect. i keked so hard
HAHA he just tried to light his pipe like hes smoking meth. This shit is too funny.
>>55319465
What is your pharmacological background?
It need not be "official" or professional, but I need to know what you have read and studied in that field to take anything you have to say on the matter seriously.
>>55319465
> (you often can't realize the huge changes it has on you until you've quit for a few days).
this so much. When I smoked alot as a kid in highschool I was all aboard "SMOKE WEED MAAAN THERES NO SIDE EFFECTS" Then I quit and realized how slow I got mentally. I often forgot words and lost my thought in the middle of a sentence. its clears up after a few days or so.
>>55319969
>Smoked weed before his brain fully developed
Found your problem.
>>55317806
Absolute Hersey. The instructions for making holy anointing oil in the bible CLEARLY states cannabis oil as an ingredient.
You are spreading the devil's lies.
>Being okay with alcohol and not with weed
Inconsistent beliefs. You're just lying to yourself when you say that it's not just because you disagree with potheads. You're finding every excuse to justify taking that choice away from citizens.
>>55320053
Didn't try it until I was 17 really (and smoked maybe once a month if that until maybe 19). Even then I never really used daily.
Everyone I knew who smoked daily at 15-16 turned into lazy retards. Safe to say I didn't damage myself too much.
>>55319465
That is objectivly false. Marijuana does not cause mental illness, the science is clear on that. This article from Time magazine covers the subject decently and has links to numerous bona fide studies.
http://healthland.time.com/2012/06/14/10-reasons-to-revisit-marijuana-policy-now/slide/marijuana-doesnt-cause-lung-cancer-or-death/
>>55309783
>>55309800
>>55309835
>>55310902
>>55320310
Have fun with denial friend.
Your entire post is factually false.
>>55320423
>Links to an entire article
>"Have fun with denial friend" as his only rebuttal
>>55320423
You're the one literally denying science, facts and reality.
Stay mad, my friend.
>>55320511
Any article that says Cannabis doesn't or can't cause mental illness is not even worse reasing.
I know many, many people who have developed anxiety disorders from cannabis along with order mental diseases.
That in your face evidence combined with many science articles supporting those potential effects prove me right.
>>55320928
reading*
>>55320928
>>55320952
>>55320423
I once again request your background in pharmacology. Please give us some details so that we might take your writings with merit.
>>55320928
>LALALALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LALALALALALALA DUDE WEED WRONG LALALALALA FRIENDS GOT ANXIETY, IT WAS WEED CASED CLOSE LALALA DUDE LMAO
>>55321046
>see pic
I am a college graduate who has done my own research on cannabis and was close friends with a a pharmacist.
I am not a chemistry major nor a pharmacist but very few people are more qualafied to speak about the risks of the drug then I am.
I have seen both the good and bad of the drug.
My final opinion is that for most people consistent abuse of the drug will harm them.
Those I know who have potentially benefited from the drug only used it sparingly and certainly no more then once a week etc...
You don't have to trust my words.
As I said I support full legalization but I don't feel it is a good thing to deny the potential negative effects it can have on people.
That is just causing harm for the sake of an agenda, so you can feel better about a substance you presumably very much care for.
>>55320928
>Any article that says Cannabis doesn't or can't cause mental illness is not even worse reasing.
>in_denial.jpg
>>55321198
No one trusts words without anything to back up their claims.
>>55309749
They also used to use mercury laxatives.
>>55317115
top kek, this fucking nigga here
>>55314169
http://biblehub.com/genesis/1-29.htm
>>55312591
Genesis 1:29
"Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you."
last time i checked cannabis produces seeds
God made the Heavens and the Earth, He made marijuana as well
>>55311571
Leeches are still used.
>>55313072
So are maggots
And so is weed actually
>>55321411
still in use*
>>55320134
>stoners
>citizens
pick 1
>>55321298
Why would I lie about that?
Especially since I support legalization.
I know many people who have developed anxiety disorders from cannabis abuse.
Do you think it was a coincidence with all of them...?
Get real.
Pretty sure there is plenty of scientific literature and I know there are tons of personal journals online or elsewhere from people who have developed anxiety disorders from it so its hardly something you can dispute.
Don't let your own agenda or love of a substance make you biased.
I am pro-legalization but not pro-lieing when it comes to the potential effects.
Many people have been badly harmed by Marijuana. That is a fact.
>>55320928
So you're denying science and reality then? Cool, I guess whatever floats your boat.
>>55321441
>People lose their citizenship over their drug of choice
>Drunks
>Citizens
Pick one.
>Autists
>Citizens
Pick one.
>>55321389
>>55321628
They already had anxiety before they smoked weed. Weed has always been known to exacerbate anxiety.
>>55321703
Trump hates you drug-fags.
Funny you would use his picture.
>>55321198
Look, stop with the quentin stuff. That guy is a fucking sperg and people use him as a satire against moralfaggots. He was never meant to be taken seriously. Poe's Law
As for drug abuse, it's no different than food abuse or any other form of abuse.
It's not an exception to the rule. It's the same as any other tool usage or recreation.
You take a hammer for example. Hammers used correctly or with safety in mind are fine, and hammers used to kill people are not fine.
Why we make exceptions for drugs can only be explained by the idea that drugs have some benefit that those in power do not want the general public to access, as if they truly cared about the negative effects, they'd also ban other tools or forms of recreation with negative effects. The only logical conclusion is, they ban drugs because of some positive effect that THEY know about but the general public does not.
Chemists, such as yours truly, know these positive effects.
Stimulants help people lose weight by cutting appetites and stimulating metabolism and help make people more productive.
Opiates help people who are psychotic or manic control their lives a bit and stay calm.
Psychedelics peel away the lies that surround us and allow the brain to process more of the data it receives.
Anti-psychotics and GABA agonists are calming and cut mania and psychotic/paranoid behavior(these are also the only class of drugs that can kill you in withdrawal).
Cannabis enhances all senses and can basically act like a wild-card, depending on the strain. Indica is stoning, Sativa is energetic.
>>55321754
>They already had anxiety before they smoked weed.
No they didn't.
Why assume that?
And exacerbating anxiety is a bad thing either way.
There are tons of people with mild anxiety issues.
>>55321374
And yet it is still a sin to smoke it. He also made bird poop, are you going to smoke that?
Are you going to pick up a fresh baby at the hospital and start smoking that? Poison ivy? Seaweed?
>>55321808
>Psychedelics peel away the lies that surround us and allow the brain to process more of the data it receives.
True or not that can be a double edged sword.
I have seen people suffer profoundly from use of LSD.
I will say that Indica strains are much safer then Sativas.
>>55321198
>I am not a chemistry major nor a pharmacist
>but very few people are more qualafied to speak about the risks of the drug then I am.
Actually, there are quite a few people more qualified. For example, all the doctors and pharmacologists who have all concluded that you're flat wrong.
>>55321808
>Cannabis enhances all senses
Can also reduce all senses and harm the body (weak blood flow) if it causes intense anxiety/fear symptoms.
>>55321240
This is so autistic it's painful.
>CANNABIS DOESN'T CAUSE MENTAL ILLNESS, IT'S JUST IN YOUR IMAGINATION HURR, THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE PROVING IT. HNGRDURRR, I ONCE HEARD SOMEONE QUOTING A SUPPOSED REPORT WHICH SAID THAT CANNABIS DOESN'T HAVE ANY SIDE-EFFECTS
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/184/2/110.full
http://bjp.rcpsych.org/content/187/6/510.full
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=4995132&fileId=S0033291700010278
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306452200005522
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0301008210001310
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091305796004261
>>55321441
The founding fathers must not have been citizens, then.
>>55321972
You're right. But, overblowing the danger actually makes the risk worse.
People going into a trip scared about having a bad time usually will. The key to tripping good is being in a positive mood and excitement for the trip. Nervousness can cause a bad trip, and telling people "dude these drugs will make you crazy" will only create a self-fulfilling prophecy.
This is the problem with anti-drug people. They use fear rather than objective, boring facts to fight against drug use, because if they used facts, their message could never be anti-drug.
>>55321921
>And yet it is still a sin to smoke it
>Bible clearly says God gave us all plants yielding seeds to ingest
come now friend. are you going to tell me drinking alcohol is a sin as well?
>>55322155
Yes, we already know that cannabis can worsen the symptoms of mental illness but that's different from actually causing mental illness, frig off kike
>>55321331
well mercury is extremely toxic. cannabis is not
>>55321628
>Why would I lie about that?
Gee, random opinions on the internet are never wrong.
>Many people have been badly harmed by marijuana. That's a fact.
No, it hasn't.
>>55322251
Getting DRUNK on alcohol IS a sin yes, the BIBLE SAYS SO. Just like it says smoking the whacky backy is a sin.
>>55317115
>>55321198
>dat anecdotal evidence
I smoke weed everyday and Im going to a top 10 law school on a full scholarship
>>55311413
m8 for the past 5 years weed has been marketed very heavily, to children, out on the open,
everyone is trying to cash in it, if it ever gets legalized, expect to see this kind of shit everywhere, weed and weed-related sellers will try to market it as the new yoga
>>55322240
I am not anti-drug I just think a really clear self-awareness is a good thing.
Knowing what I know now I would have probably avoided drugs like LSD and probably smoked pot much more sparingly then I did.
I don't want people to suffer or feel bad.
I also honestly believe that a straight edge life is the most ideal for mental and physical health even if some occasional drug use can for some arguably give them good experiences and leave them better off.
Maybe there are exceptions but for the average dude I think thats pretty true.
>smoke too much weed
>have panic attack
OMG WEED CAUSES MENTAL DISORDERS
>>55317290
you're actually supposed to do this to heat up the weed, no joke
>>55322401
>>55321921
>not smoking fetuses
>>55322452
>"oh no thanks, weed makes me paranoid/anxious"
get a shrink m8
>>55322487
No you're not.
>>55322452
>smoke one bowl of weed
>have panic attack
>hurr weed is totally harmless for everyone
>>55322531
id be steve jobs in that scenario
>>55322601
>get high
>freak out cause you can't over-control your behaviour in this state
>say drugs are bad, never touch them again, keep being a nerve-wreck for life
>>55321736
Dude, we get it. You were Quentin in high school. You were the lonely autist with no friends or social life who looked on with jealously and hatred at all the other people having fun. You justified this to yourself by convincing yourself that weed must be degenerate.
You're like Elliot rogers just you hate stoners instead of women.
>>55322355
please, show me where in the Bible it says it is a sin to ingest marijuana. because i supplied a passage permitting the ingestion of "every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth"
>>55321776
Wrong again.
>>55322436
I have never met a straight edger, a mormon, or a muslim I liked. Never.
I've never heard any mormon or sXe music I liked.
If their way of life is so good, why in fuck's name are they so worthless and completely boring?
If you have a mental illness/deficiency smoking weed will make it worse.
I'm 40,smoked everyday for 20 years and often feel like I've not advanced a day since about '95.
I would have been dysfunctional without weed but it's sure hot helped.
Keep it occasional and recreational,when you're getting baked on your own all day every day you're in trouble.
>>55322668
Drug induced fear/anxiety is never logical nor can it be stopped by any mental techniques.
You just ride it out until it dissipates.
>>55321840
There is not a single shred of data linking marijuana use to permant anxiety disorders.
Since you claim there is, you should link a legitimate source to back up your claim.
>>55322155
>2015
>Trusting western science
OK.
>>55321921
It is not a sin to smoke it. The bible even clearly states that holy anointing oil is made with cannabis oil.
You are spreading sin and heresy.
>>55322799
drug induced fear normally follows a narrative and is normally previsible as fuck, and if one is not a insane clown posse faggot one should not use drugs when he is in an unenjoyable situation
>>55322693
>You justified this to yourself by convincing yourself that weed must be degenerate.
I was a stoner for a long period of time dummy.
I am also pro-legalization for cannabis.
Nice job following the thread. Guess your focus is being "impeded" by something eh?
>>55309749
So were leeches and mercury.
Why aren't you using leeches and drinking mercury?
>>55323040
leeches have no medical benefit and mercury is extremely toxic.
you make a terrible argument
>>55322724
I just showed you FIVE.
>>55309749
so was drinking plutonium during the 50's during the atomic craze
why are you not drinking plutonium?
>>55322799
>Drug induced fear/anxiety is never logical nor can it be stopped by any mental techniques.
Actually, I use mantras to stop bad trips with great effect. Most people don't know the technique because teaching it is taboo. "What are you A FILTHY HIPPY?!!"
>>55323040
Leeches are still used.
Mercury is used in Amalgam isn't it? In dentistry so technically you're having mercury put in your mouth.
>>55323209
>why are you not drinking plutonium?
Because I can't buy plutonium?
Where the fuck could a normal person get plutonium from?
>>55323295
Akbar's corner shop
>>55323197
Leeches do and are still used along with maggots.
>>55323040
Cobalt 60 makes those two look tame. And it's used daily to nuke tumors.
>>55323182
Reader since i has 7 years
why i am not white yet ?
>>55323182
this guy Quentin seems like a real buzz kill
>i read the great gatsby look how cool i am
>let me juxtapose the driving themes of gatsby with my other favorite book, the catcher in the rye
>le social class and cultuer
>>55309749
So was every other recreational drug ever.
>>55322155
None of those claim to have found a causal link between cannabis and mental illness.
They're also mostly over a decade old and outdated by newer data. Researchers have concluded in the past few years that marijuana does not cause psychosis or schizophrenia.
http://psychcentral.com/news/2013/12/10/harvard-marijuana-doesnt-cause-schizophrenia/63148.html
>>55309749
>pro drug propaganda
>committing a federal crime on national television
DUDE THE DISCOVERY CHANNEL IS FOR SUPREME INTELLECTUALS LIKE ME, LMAOOOOOO
>>55323197
But leeches do have a medical use and are still used to day even in modern medicine.
>>55323348
i didnt know that. that is very interesting.
>>55323332
>>55323404
Its not a federal crime because it was state mandated and because the government doesn't have any actual power over creating drug laws as such much of their shit is said to be void purely because its not in their power to regulate such things like that. Which is why areas like colorado, oregon and to a lesser extent california and new york allow for recreational and medical use respectively
>>55323208
nowhere in any of those passages was marijuana discussed. please, do me the kindness of posting it again with the relevant information highlighted
>>55323448
Seaweed, Manuca (can't spell) honey and silver are all used as well and have benefits for MRSA infections etc.
>>55323559
Keep telling yourself that during the DEA raid, hippie.
>>55323391
all of which should be 100% legal for adults
>>55323616
Messed up my quote to be hoenst, family.
>>55323531
>>55309749
the early 1900s were a scary time of unchecked medical experimentation.
They used to sell irradiated patches in the 1910s designed to be placed over your endocrine glands for "vim and vigor".
Instead, these people got endocrine tumors and died very painful deaths.
>>55322943
Then why are you unironically spamming Quentin? It seems like you genuinely associate and that makes you look like a giant sperg.
>>55323616
and the DEA won't have any bearing in legalized states especially with a legal medical license
This is why the whole war on drugs has been a huge farce, if the DEA and federal drug laws had actual merit to them and were actually within the powers of the federal government then states like colorado and oregon couldn't possibly legalize it. Even if they couldn't legalize it, there are tons of illegal drugs that are used medically and any medical license prescribed would be 100% valid
>>55322764
>normal people are bad
>anyone that doesn't do massive amounts of drugs like me is Muslim tier
People like you are why I'm anti-drug.
>>55323374
This. Quentin is the guy that nobody wants around.
He grows up to be a kissless vigin wizard.
Tbqh I think smoking weed is for people who have weak minds. You can will yourself to have all the effects of being high.
>>55323616
we were discussing the religious implications of marijuana, not the legal ramifications.
besudes, i do not accept the yolk of laws that limit my liberty when my actions impact nobody but myself
>>55323729
I just love Quentin and find him incredibly amusing.
Don't have to take everything so seriously.
>>55323825
hes a troll you dumb fuck
>>55323559
Marijuana wasn't a word back then you fucking moron. I even linked a greek-english translation specifying that pharmakeia = sorcery, illicit drug use.
https://carm.org/can-drug-use-cause-demonic-possession
http://blogs.christianpost.com/wretched/may-a-christian-smoke-pot-13593/
It is sorcery.
Enjoy your eternal stay in hell if you refuse to acknowledge what the BIBLE SAYS.
>>55323873
>its sorcery
great another person who thinks magic is real
>>55323778
And people like you are boring pieces of shit that no one likes except other boring pieces of shit.
Congratulations, Wade.
>>55323826
>You can will yourself to have all the effects of being high
no you cant, this is a fact
>>55323873
>Enjoy your eternal stay in hell if you refuse to acknowledge what the BIBLE SAYS.
The bible says technology is for heathens. What the fuck are you doing on the computer?
Enjoy your eternal stay in hell for your refusal to acknowledge what the BIBLE SAYS.
>>55323750
DEA raids have been a thing in states with legal marijuana, though.
The reason why states get away with legalizing it is because obongo has said he wouldn't enforce federal laws because he a liberal faggot.
Look, I don't really give a shit if you fucks want to smoke DUDE WEED LMAO. I agree that that should be left up to the states, I'm just saying marijuana is technically still illegal on the federal level and if you want to change it, change the law, don't just ignore it and pray the DEA doesn't bust your dispensary because there hasn't been a raid in a while.
>>55323873
>acknowledge what the BIBLE SAYS.
do you admit the Bible contradicts itself?
>>55323930
Oh no the degenerate drug addict hell bent on destroying Western civilization just so he can get high thinks I'm boring!
>>55323983
I can though. Do you have any studies saying its 100% impossible for any human being to do that?
>>55323826
and you're entitled to your opinion but what you said about just "willing yourself to have all the effects of being high" are chemically not possible, you can't just think yourself high without a chemical that actually triggers said reactions. Otherwise you're just convincing yourself a shitty lie and effectively creating a false association to what ever you want to link your "high" to
>>55314169
Hang yourself.
>>55323923
Great another fat american who can't even read
>>55324001
No it doesn't.
>>55324039
Wasted enough time on you, you refuse to acknowledge what the bible says on mind altering drugs such as marijauna. Enjoy eternal suffering in hell sinner.
>>55323873
>sorcery
Holy shit are you high? Magic? Really? And lemme guess, the great sea dragon Leviathan is going to RISE UP and drown LA ala "Aenema" style.
>>55324092
And yet another fat american who can't read
>>55324033
>The reason why states get away with legalizing it is because obongo has said he wouldn't enforce federal laws because he a liberal faggot.
or because the federal law in question is out of the bounds of the federal government's power which was in question for years before obama said he wouldn't enforce it (which is bullshit because obama doesn't enforce anything)
>still technically illegal
and SCOTUS would have to rule on whether the federal government has the power to have such laws and power to enforce them like that.
>>55324081
>Wasted enough time on you, you refuse to acknowledge what the bible says on mind altering drugs such as marijauna. Enjoy eternal suffering in hell sinner.
so you admit you believe in magic and fairies
>>55324081
>No it doesn't.
Yes it does you stupid c.uck.
Kill yourself (not a sin, do it quickly and save the NHS money).
>>55324051
Western civilization was doomed the day we let our governments take on socialist control policies. Drug laws are part of this, son, and drug laws did not exist in the West before the late 1800s, because your ancestors weren't a bunch of vaginas that hated a good time.
Grow the fuck up, get high, and learn to live a little like most people throughout history.
>>55324126
>I want to force my biblical views on someone
>call something sorcery then tell them to read the bible
>hurr you can't read, stop saying I believe in magic
>>55317786
is this a bazziro pol thread?
>bible thumpers
>>55324061
by ingesting cannabis you introduce certain chemicals into your brain that are only present after you partake..
you cannot will your brain to make chemicals that it cannot produce.
that would be like saying you can will your body to have all the effects of eating food.
do you have any studies saying its possible for the brain to synthesize compounds that it cannot synthesize?
>>55324231
Which is why you can't quote any scripture. Kill yourself idiot.
>>55324262
>explain what sorcery means, even link to greek-english dictionary translation
>LOL U BELIEVE IN MAGIC BRO? LMAO!!!
>literally too fucking stupid to understand that different words mean different things over the course of hundreds and thousands of years
Kill yourself subhuman. Retards like you do not deserve to be on God's earth.
>>55309749
preaching the herbal jew
>>55324463
>you need to inject thc into your brain in order to feel the same as being high
lol
try meditating sometime you hippy fuck
>>55324081
>Enjoy eternal suffering in hell sinner.
"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you." Matthew 7:1
>>55323826
No, you can't.
>>55324126
>can't read
Read what? Greek? Pharmakeia is NOT "sorcery". Sorcery is magic. According to the Greeks, pharmakeia is simply use of a substance that acts as a medicine OR intoxicant. No good or bad.
It's where we get the words "pharmacy" and "pharmacology" from.
Here's something for your dumb ass to know, kike-worshiper. Your hormones? They're as much "drugs" as any illegal drugs you despise. Your dopamine, serotonin, epinephrine, and gamma-aminobutyric acid among others, all act as drugs in your body. They're as much "sorcery" as weed, coke, or booze. The people that wrote the bible didn't even know what chemicals were. Chemistry was not yet a science, and no one knew anything about drugs back then. Those crazy fucks actually thought various substances were magically possessed by gods, angels, demons, spirits, etc, and in fact ethanol is called "spirits" even today because people used to think it was the spiritual essence of plants and other things.
We didn't even know that neurotransmitters moderated behavior until the 1950s, after scientists discovered that serotonin and LSD shared similar molecular structures.
>>55323856
OK, I won't.
Muslims, asians, and almost every other non white race think marijauana is cancer.
lets face the facts the drug makes you into a sissy, you will lose in a fight while smoking it, in this world you n eed to be aggressive and decisive. Obviously dumb westerners won't be either because DUDE WEED LMAO.
>>55323332
My sides
>>55314169
Another bump for the sinners. God save us all.
>>55324478
it was rare skin cancer started on his toe
he didnt get the normal cancers associated with smoking like oral or lung cancer
>>55324636
meditating, while beneficial and healthy, does not replicate the effects of cannabis. meditating, when taken to its apex, can be thought of a form of lucid dreaming
also i never implied >you need to inject thc into your brain in order to feel the same as being high
i stated the fact that the brain will not experience the effects of THC when there is no THC in the bloodstream
>>55324679
I don't think you understand what that verse means. Here I'll put it simple so your tiny brain can perhaps understand.
"if u r unjust do not judge sum 1 els"
Do not judge according to appearance, but judge with righteous judgment.
John 7:24
I'm exercising righteous judgment. As I am righteous and you are talking utter nonsense, you are a wicked sinner going to hell because you refuse to accept what the bible says. Enjoy subhuman.
>>55324756
>all greek-english translations of the word are wrong, I know better than anyone who has studied the greek language or the bible, they are all wrong
>>55324156
>or because the federal law in question is out of the bounds of the federal government's power which was in question for years before obama said he wouldn't enforce it (which is bullshit because obama doesn't enforce anything)
But it still can fall under federal law. Those raids weren't just real in my mind. And I agree Obama doesn't enforce shit, he just did that for brownie points.
>and SCOTUS would have to rule on whether the federal government has the power to have such laws and power to enforce them like that.
This is where I'm coming from. We need a ruling or at any moment, the DEA could break into perfectly legal establishments (on the state level) and raid them and press federal charges.
Also: I don't understand how shit like WEED falls under state rights but faggot marriage doesn't. Same with gun rights. Actually, more so with gun rights because that's an actual Amendment....
My ID changed BTW. I'm on the mobile Jew now.
>>55324469
>No I don't believe in magic
>but I believe in god
you're stupid
>>55323873
Here's where you make a mistake.
The Greeks called drug use pharmakeia, NOT God or the bible.
The bible has clear instructions on how to make holy anointing oil with cannabis.
You're also suggesting that all medicine is against the will of god. You are a sinner for spreading these heretic and blasphemous lies.
>>55324779
i know its b8, but...
“I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do.”-Robert Heinlein
>>55323873
There was a specific word for marijuana at the time. kaneh bosm. Jesus was a big fan, actually.
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Frankly, I'm sick of hearing about how great weed supposedly is and how we'd benefit from its legalization. All the celebtards like Miley Cyrus smoke it, that's enough for me to be against it.
And you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who doesn't smoke weed that would favor legalization.
>>55324966
I'm a scientist, a chemist.
I know all about what "pharmakeia" means because I've studied pharmacology.
Your stupid part-2 of the desert trilogy has no place in a topic about science and pharmacology.
GTFO with that voodoo hoodoo bullshit.
As for your dead kike on a stick...
>>55324033
Current law prohibits the DEA from using any of it's funding to go after people in states where it's legal.
This was just reenforced by a federal judge recently.
>>55325210
You're hard pressed to find someone who stands up for gun rights who doesn't own a gun
>>55325039
>The Greeks called drug use pharmakeia, NOT God or the bible.
εἰδωλολατρία, φαρμαkεία, ἔχθραι, ἔρις, ζῆλος, θυμοί, ἐριθείαι, διχοστασίαι, αἱρέσεις,
Galatians 5:20
kαὶ φῶς λύχνου οὐ μὴ φάνῃ ἐν σοὶ ἔτι, kαὶ φωνὴ νυμφίου kαὶ νύμφης οὐ μὴ ἀkουσθῇ ἐν σοὶ ἔτι: ὅτι οἱ ἔμποροί σου ἦσαν οἱ μεγιστᾶνες τῆς γῆς, ὅτι ἐν τῇ φαρμαkείᾳ σου ἐπλανήθησαν πάντα τὰ ἔθνη,
Revelations 18:23
Filtered now. Just another sinner who has no idea what he's talking about.
>>55309783
>>55309800
>>55309835
>>55310902
p. good combo desu
>>55325210
>And you'd be hard-pressed to find someone who doesn't smoke weed that would favor legalization.
Gotcha covered homie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWWOJGYZYpk
>>55324061
Yes, every study will say that. You can't will your brain into synthesizing THC any more that you can will yourself to grow a third arm.
>>55309749
>lets revert to 160 year old medical practices, guys
>>55325269
Phamacology is a greek derived word, not a biblical one
you're grasping at straws and making a gross overstep of what the word actually means and you're demonizing medicine because your god said so.
>>55324966
>I'm exercising righteous judgment
all humans are born of sin, are we not? nobody is deserving of God's love or forgiveness but through Jesus Christ's sacrifice.
you are just as much of a sinner as i am, as anybody is.
>>55312803
>amphetamines are so useful it's not even funny
Only problem is their side effects, and now you have nootropics like modafinil that have all the benefits of amphetamines with none of the drawbacks.
>>55325334
The original new testament books were written in greek idiot.
>>55325337
You aren't covered by Christ's sacrifice because you choose to continue to sin because
>lé weed is so epic xDDDD it's totally allowed despite it clearly being forbidden in the bible xDDDD god gave us all plants duddeeee elmao les get hjigh!!!!
>>55309749
ITT, a lot of tears about legal cannabis, top kek. Seriously though, all cannabis is medicinal. Just like sugar, alcohol, tobacco, gaming and a lot of other things, cannabis can be abused. I don't like the degenerates getting a break, but legalization, regulation, and taxation go a lot further towards a better society than a police state, drug cartels, and black markets.
>>55325337
In the eyes of christianity yes they are born of sin, which is why you get baptized, however if I remember right catholics believe babies are inherently evil and are baptized for that,
but regardless
>>55324636
The effects of marijuana are caused by THC (a cannabanoids) reacting to 3 specific cannabanoid receptors in the brain.
You simply cannot acquire that via meditation, it's a scientific impossibility.
>>55325428
>The original new testament books were written in greek idiot.
according to many christians who believe in jesus, jesus died for their sins of the fore fathers and relinquished peoples bind to the new testament, which is why so many christians don't use the new testament as explicitly as they used to
>>55324243
>mfw they introduced a ban to make MXE schedule 1
Suck it, druggies. Back to illegally rerouted veterinary ketamine for you.
>>55325555
The whole drug scheduling is a farce, marijuana linked as a schedule 1 drug for being dangerous despite being anything but
>>55325159
seems pretty mild compared to ciggs
>>55325159
All smoke does that, though, not just marijuana smoke. Smoke from car exhausts and campfires acts the same way.
>>55309749
>from 1,000BC to 1850, leeches were used for more than 100% of separate illnesses
It's obvious who will be the new world leaders of this century. I will be moving to those countries while watching the downfall of your countries
>>55325644
leeches are still used today
>>55325428
you claim `ingesting a plant is sorcery. i do not accept that. if anything marijuana makes me feel closer to God
>>55325598
We all know schedule 1 just means "people use it recreationally and we can't think of a good way to get a monopoly on its distribution" for the majority of drugs on the list.
what does it feel like posting in a propaganda thread posted by leftist marijuana activists?
>>55325269
Pharmacology is a Greek derived word, not a Hebrew one.
And tonblow you completely the fuck out, the Hebrews did have a word for cannabis. kaneh bosm it's mentioned numerous times in the bible and was even used to make anointing oil.
You are simply wrong. You are trying to distort the word of god around your sinful lies. You need to repent, or you're going to hell.
It would be interesting to see someone who doesn't smoke weed actually believe it should be legal.
>>55325427
The side-effects are overblown by the media and government. They exist, no doubt, but are easily dealt with via good hydration and nutrition, proper dosing and getting sleep.
Their benefits are massive, and outweigh the risks greatly.
Just cutting obesity alone would be a huge boon to humanity in saved energy and resources.
>>55325555
Not under US law. That's China that banned it.
Also, 3-MeO-PCP has already replaced it.
And when they ban 3-MeO-PCP, we'll find another replacement. Chemists never sleep.
You can NOT win this fight, which is hilarious because you're fighting people who are stoned and lowly thug gangsters with literally billions of dollars in equipment and officers and military forces. And you're STILL losing.
Addicts+hippies+gangsters > police+military+anti-drug advocates
Bill Hicks is laughing his ass off toking with Buddha.
>>55325786
What does it feel like being a subhuman monkey living in a favela who will most likely be gunned down by a drug lord or crooked cop within 3 years?
>>55325428
But it's clearly not forbidden. It's use is explicitly allowed for in the bible.
>>55311177
truth. let the shills roar all over the thread.
>>55325750
No, I don't claim that.
THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.
"AHHHHHHHHHHHHHRGHHHHHH OHHHH GODDDDDDDD WHYYY DOES IT HURT SO MUCHHHH AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH" - The sounds of you for all eternity in the future, burning alive in the fires of hell, because you refused to obey God and give up your marijuana addiction.
You're going to DIE, and you have an appointment with God to explain why you refused to accept his word. I've explained to you exactly how and why it is a sin, so you have no excuses to offer him. Enjoy, sinner.
>>55325825
I don't smoke weed and I believe it should be legal. I have in fact never done an illegal drug of any kind.
>>55325864
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr3537
>>55325786
Strawpolls on pol clearly show the majority of pollacks are pro pot, so it's not really a shill thread.
>>55309749
Hits a smoke, then starts acting like
>DUDE WEED
Anything that alters your brain activity is degenerate. I have a few friends who smoked weed since they were like 16 (25 now), and I can tell you I ignore them, because it's like they've become dumb as bricks.
You want to smoke? That's fine, just don't act like you're better than others and poison your mind and yourself alone.
>>55309749
>tfw your grandpa died before trying weed
>>55325939
The bible says cannabis is an ingredient in holy anointing oil.
You are a liar and a sinner.
>>55325939
>>THAT'S WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS.
and you project the bible onto me and everyone else by calling them a sinner and they're gonna burn in hell
>>55326132
>I ignore them
You mean they won't hang out with you because you're a buzz kill
>>55325971
>https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/114/hr3537
"Prognosis: 24% chance of being enacted"
Even in the worst case it does, the dark net is alive and well and street dealers are various and sundry.
Face it fucktard. You'll never win this fight. EVER.
You're up against capitalism, human nature, and science.
You don't and never did stand a chance.
WHEN DAT KUSH HITS
>>55325971
Why??
>>55326202
Sinners who don't turn to Christ for grace WILL burn in hell for all eternity.
God HATES sin so much that he chooses, righteously, to burn the sinful alive for all eternity, in agonizing everlasting pain.
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH is the noise the damned makes while they scream for all eternity.
God is so terrifyingly righteous that a single transgression of his law results in eternal suffering, unless you come to his forgiveness through Christ.
>>55309749
Wow this old dude is not only a degenerate but doesn't even know how to smoke a regular pipe. Lighting it like one of those meth pipes and complaining about burning his hand.
>>55326428
ok have fun playing with your make believe magic, saying you don't believe in magic but you believe in god, expecting people to take you seriously while you tell them they're sinners for doing something you don't like
