Morally justify eating meat. If it can't, it should be outlawed. If you can't and yet still do, you're a wicked person.
“Compassion for animals is intimately associated with goodness of character, and it may be confidently asserted that he who is cruel to animals cannot be a good man.” ― Arthur Schopenhauer
If you eat meat but wouldn't be willing to kill for meat then you are a shit person t
>>55276244
My life is improved by eating animals so I do
>>55276244
Because it's good for my morale to eat meat.
>>55276364
I like pooing in the loo, but I wouldn't be willing to work on sewers.
>>55276244
Circle of life Biaaaaatch!
4 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
6 If thou put the brethren in remembrance of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished up in the words of faith and of good doctrine, whereunto thou hast attained.
7 But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness.
>>55276244
All animals die
>>55276244
Because production of meat is a good way to use the chaff of fruit and vegetable production.
A single stalk of corn only produces about 1.5 ears of corn in a 3 foot square. We only eat about 4% of that stalk by weight. The remainder of that "useless" stalk, can be fed to cows or pigs.
It would be wasteful to do anything else, and therefor vegan or vegetarian lifestyles are wasteful and destructive.
I don't care about the "morality" of it. It's too tasty.
My concern is that the production and consumption of meat is inefficient allocation of resources. Takes up too much land, uses up too much water.
>>55276244
humans are omnivorous, our diet includes meat
>>55276244
You see my friend, in a free society such as ours, we need not justify an action. Quite the opposite, you need to provide compeling reasons to codem it.
So we can continue eaing meat until you provide enough of an argument to change our mindset.
>>55276244
I don't love most animals breh
>>55276244
Why do you have to force people to do the 'moral thing' through the power of law?
You consume life whatever you do. Are you saying animals are somehow more important than plants? If such hierarchy is possible, then sentient life's needs and interests trumps those of nonsentient life much the same way.
>>55276244
>Abortion should be illegal.
>Cheating should be illegal.
>Lying should be illegal.
>Hurt feelings should be illegal.
>Being annoying should be illegal.
>4chan should be illegal.
>>55276244
>Survival of the fittest is the only law
>If you disagree I can appeal to Christianity, the popular religion
>>55276685
That's backward, friend. If you live in a society, your freedom is restricted and defined by society. It is up to you to defend an action.
>>55276244
It tastes good.
That not enough for you hippie? I don't need to "Morally justify" shit.
I only eat predatory animals like bulls, buffalo, hogs,alligator,tuna, and chicken.
>>55276244
animals are tasty
I don't believe they are self-conscious on a level that warrants the same rights as humans
>>55276833
fuck off commie fuck
I used to make a big deal about not wanting to give it up because it tastes too good, but then I realized that's the kind of reasoning that only a faggot would resort to. I'm still working on cutting some meats out because sometimes it's actually cheaper and more convenient to just eat meat, plus I gotta come up with some good veggie dish ideas.
I don't understand why meat eaters get so heated over this issue. Your manhood is not proportional to the amount of feathered Jew that your mom buys from Shop Rite. Get over it.
>Unironically thinking chicken and fish are equal to humans
Vegans are the violent psychopaths.
You can eat meat and still be compassionate to animals.
I was raised on a farm I understand the cycle of life.
>>55276890
>just submit to the green lobby
never you fucking commie piece of shit
>>55276364
Who gives a damn about being a good person? Meat is delicious, but bloodying oneself butchering an animal is terribly distasteful.
Meat should be a restricted product only available to the aristocratic class, the plebeians can eat soy protein instead
>>55276244
>morally justify eating meat
Not until you legally compel me to do so.
>>55276867
>I don't believe they are self-conscious on a level that warrants the same rights as humans
That's an interesting outlook.
>>55276244
>He allows invasive animals to destroy the planet.
>>55276244
I guess you shouldn't live in america then. Given where your tax dollars are going. (Abortions, Killing muslims, Killing animals, homosexuality, etc etc).
You're paying the government to do these things for you. Hence you are an evil psychopath.
>>55276244
>Morally justify eating meat.
My ancestors were omnivorous scavengers. I eat what fuels me.
Pretty much all the justification you need.
I agree with the sentiment though that a pussy wouldn't be able to catch, kill and eat a animal therefor would never really eat meat in a 'wild' setting, so why provide them a luxury that they can't earn naturally?
I already justified it in another threat and fuck rewriting that.
tl;dr version
>All life should be treated as one, plant, animal or human are essentially the same
>Only the will to survive matters
>That is why we eat cows and don't eat lions or honey badgers
>Why you eat carrots and not poison ivy
>The weak are at the mercy of strong
>Once we die, we are consumed by bacteria
All is fine with the world as long as you have the will to live and are ready to give your life for it.
>>55276670
We don't need to eat meat to survive.
>>55276842
>>55276867
>it tastes good
Rape feels good for the person doing it. So does theft, torture or killing of some people. That makes it okay, right?
Everything will die someday
Ethics are a fraudulent premise to anyone who recognizes the immanent absurdity of all things
>>55276244
Honestly? I can't.
“One may regret living in a period when it is impossible to form an idea of the shape the world of the future will assume. But there is one thing I can predict to eaters of meat: the world of the future will be vegetarian." - Adolf Hitler
>>55276244
Morally Justify Shitposting. if it cant, it should be deleted. if you cant and yet still do, youre a ban evader.
>>55276928
>I can be compassionate to my victims while still harming them
Pure psychopathy.
Animals are not people.
>>55276244
Fuck off back to tumblr, communist vegan.
>>55276244
Do you also care about about and try to stop animals from dismembering each other in the wild?
If not you don't really have compassion for them since it's a lot worse than how humans kill.
>>55277033
We dont need to eat veggies to survive either.
>>55276244
"It's ok to eat plants because they can't scream"
Vegetards: not even once
>>55276972
You're still an accomplice to an evil act. You're not clean so don't pretend to be.
Being able to not eat meat is a privilege. If you are cut off from society in some way then it's likely you won't have the luxury of not eating meat.
>>55277033
no the second parti s the justification
I don't think that animals are self-conscious on a level that saves them from slaughter.
I do think they should be raised better, however.
I'm not a fan of those animal farms where animals are in pain for long periods of time.
>>55277033
I don't care about animals. They don't care about me. I cannot establish a social contract with them about not eating each others. They'll try to eat me if they can. They'll fucking try to eat each others.
please refrain from clapping your hands, you may kill many innocent spores
>>55277095
I can't. Stop shitposting.
>>55276928
You really can't. Sure, you can 'understand the cycle of life', but you know what that is?
Naturalist fallacy, and you can go right back to the goddamn stone age with that logic. Vegetarianism is a sign of civilization.
At least actual meat-eating animals, like wolves, don't try to morally justify their behavior like you meatfags do.
>>55277287
Plant-killing barbarian
>>55276527
Any true national socialist is a vegetarian.
>>55276244
i bought 3 pounds of rib lamb today
delicious with mint sauce desu
>>55277204
And yet most vegans are pro abortion, you're not clean either.
>>55277033
Nigga it's illegal to rape, steal, or kill.
Guess what it's not illegal to do?
Eat meat.
I went hunting for the first time today.
bacon wrapped duck breast in the oven as I type this
>>55276833
An action is not a crime unti law is made to criminalize that action, and a law won't be made until the senators study and agree that such an action causes harm to society. So it's you who got it backwards.
>>55277204
Evil is subjective.
Morals are subjective. Therefore, I can just say that my moral code permits it. BOOM. Morally justified.
>>55277287
we need to kill to live
be it war or food
deal with it we are animals and we won.
unless we have star trek machines that materialize meat but we dont
>>55277412
If it can't be morally justified, it should be illegal.
>>55277451
Defend the action or it should be illegal. The burden is on you. You're sounding like a Christfag right now.
>>55276244
Fuck you OP,
Now I'm hungry
>>55277204
i think valuing animal life above or equal to hjmans is evil and a sign if psychopathy
>>55277287
why dont you care about the life of vegetables you insensitve fuck? They are alive, some of them can communicate with each other, and they respond to negative stimuli (pain)
Don't blame me, blame evolution. If a human being was not supposed to eat other animals (nevermind the origin of this authority), they would not have evolved to do so. Nature made man the ultimate predator and to condemn the product of its labor for engaging in its intended role because you hold some misplaced sympathy for the weaker species is delusional. Should wolves starve? Should lions starve?
It is all manufactured morality.
>>55277498
>>55277529
>morality is le subjective xp
How to spot a philistine. Let it be known most people more intelligent than you don't subscribe to such bullshit.
http://philpapers.org/surveys/results.pl?affil=Target+faculty&areas0=0&areas_max=1&grain=coarse
>>55277553
Remember "innocent until proven guilty"?
The burden of proof is actually on you. No need to defend myself until you actually have a compelling argument. Which you don't.
>>55277553
Nothing SHOULD be illegal before the society at large decides it is so.
>>55277553
other way around
you need to prove why something should be made illegal otherwise its the default position
>>55276244
Stop being a virtue-signalling faggot.
>>55277553
The burden of proof is on you actually.
According to your logic, law says what you can do, when it's actually the opposite, law says what you can NOT do.
Daily reminder that if you're a vegetarian for "moral reasons" you are the cancer in society. Your double standard ridden lifestyle is made possible by people who are actually intelligent enough to realize the practicalities involved in maintaining a human population.
Luckily the majority of people aren't as stupid as you so you'll always remain a laughable minority.
Fuck morals, meat tastes better than whatever the fuck people grow in gardens.
>>55277644
The person I am responding to said that killing an animal is an "evil act".
In this context evil is subjective since you can make an argument for why killing an animal is right and you can make an argument for why killing an animal is wrong.
>>55276634
It costs more energy to make meat than it does to make fruit and vegetables.
I've got just the solution for you hippies out there.
What we need is a renewable bio-engineered meat source that will eliminate the need for livestock and ultimately solve world hunger.
We need bio-meat!
>trying to violate my rights based on muh feels
>>55276244
I lost 20 more lbs this past couple months eating nothing but meat.
>>55277618
God gave us permission.
◄ Genesis 1:28 ►
God blessed them and said to them, "Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground."
This is true for both Islam and Judiasm too. Meat eating is allowed. Especially after their throats are cut.
And if you want to play it the other way.
If there is no God...guess what?
Then There is no one we need to answer to. We can do as we please.
Animals can get fucked either way and no one and nothing can stop us. Because there is no such thing as morality if God isn't real.
Vegans vs Carnivores. Everytime. Carnivores win.
A vegan won't be willing to kill. We are.
Science and Religion stand against you vegan. You have nothing.
>>55277665
That is retarded collectivst logic, not surprising seeing how you're a Swede.
>>55276244
abloo bloo bloo!!!!! stop killing the swine from a helicopter!
whaaaa! if you can't kill animals for meat you should feel awful!
you can't have it both ways.
>>55277553
Can you morally justify masturbation?
Can you morally justify lying?
Can you morally justify life prison sentences?
Can you morally justify death penalty?
Can you morally justify condoms?
Can you morally justify abortion?
Can you morally justify owning a car?
Can you morally justify cigarettes?
Can you morally justify alcohol?
Can you morally justify guns?
Can you morally justify knives?
Can you morally justify war?
I guess all of these should be illegal?
>>55276750
Damn, I don't know why, but I want kill that fucking cat so badly.
As per usual a veganfag comes in and makes us hate vegans even more. Don't even bother making the "why do you hate vegans?" Threads anymore because you give us a reason to hate you just by posting you smug narcissistic pusball
>>55277661
>>55277665
>>55277683
>>55277702
All wrong. You are the accused. You need to prove it isn't an evil act or else it should be illegal and you ought to be criminalized.
>>55277792
How does opposing views make evil subjective? Not all views are equally valid, that is pure idiocy.
It is not subjective and you're a proven fool if you think it is.
>>55276244
that's true. but in a way it's a step in the right direction when people admit there's no justification even if they still eat meat. better than making bullshit excuses. of course they should stop eating meat, the sooner the better.
>>55277891
Take it easy mate. I was responding to the guy who claimed actions that can't be justified should be illegal.
We can discuss what party gets to make the final judgement, but that is another discussion altogether.
>>55277916
The ones that harm lives should be illegal, like eating meat. And before you say it, plants aren't harmed by eating them
>Morally justify eating meat.
Any other omnivore or carnivore on the planet would eat me and be bereft of remorse for having done so.
That is my "moral" ( so hopelessly subjective as to be useless as a metric) justification for being an omnivore.
Now go eat a rare steak and stop being a goddamn fucking pussy.
/thread
>>55277979
>>55277979
why dont you reply to my post you dumb fucking hypocrite >>55277633
>>55277979
>>55277875
You don't get to decide morals.
Either you accept that eating meat is permitted by the almighty.
Or you accept God isn't real and morality is pointless as a result.
You know your really hated when science and religion team up against you
>>55277979
>All wrong. You are the accused. You need to prove it isn't an evil act or else it should be illegal and you ought to be criminalized.
In this case, I accuse you of witchcraft. Prove that you aren't a witch or we will burn you at the stake.
I'm waiting, witch.
>>55278025
Well if you want to be technical all of those things I listed can harm lives in some way or another.
>>55277633
Eating plants is actually necessary to survival. And no, plants don't feel pain.
>>55276244
>you're a wicked person.
I know. But no moreso than the animal I'm eating, probably
>>55278116
Selfish.
If you truly cared you would starve yourself to death than harm any organism
>>55276244
bullshit, faggot
I would slaughter my own animals if I was forced to. Empathy is a weakness when used for those not of your own creed
>>55278032
>Any other omnivore or carnivore on the planet would eat me and be bereft of remorse for having done so.
So what? It's okay because they do it? Stealing a man's wife and killing his offspring is okay because lions do it?
Newsflash: You're not a fucking lion. You are human, a member of the dominant species of the planet. And with such great power and privilege comes responsibility.
>>55277979
I was not talking about opposing views, I was talking about opposing arguments. If there are opposing, coherent, arguments then a subjective judgement has to be made.
Also the fool is the one who resorts to name calling.
>>55277979
your views on this subject are archaic. you are just being a contrarian at this point or a troll.
i have no reason to defend myself as the burden is on you
>>55278116
Why is your survival more important than the plants?
>>55278270
You're pathetic. No wonder vegans are a dying breed
>>55278096
>morality is tied to religion
There's that epin may-may again
>>55276244
Eating meat is as necessary as breathing air for any self-respecting, healthy human. We have canines, we have domesticated swine, cattle and poultry - whom would fail to survive in the natural world. A one sided relationship? I suppose so, but it's symbiotic, they live without knowing suffering until their time comes.
>>55278183
>harming something can't be feel pain
Brilliant. And unlike you savages, we treat the organisms we consume well.
>>55278270
You fail to refute my point. What you have done is make a very feeble false comparison.
It is ok to eat animals because that is what animals do you fucktard.
>>55277875
personally, i eat almost entirely a vegan diet (soylent) but not because i think eating meat is wrong.
in fact, im eating rib of lamb tonight and a strombolli
>>55276244
>he who is cruel to animals cannot be a good man
That's cool, I don't eat halal meat.
Morality is an abstractly contrived social construct.
>>55278337
Sweet argument, bro. We are the intelligent, highly evolved few. You meat-eaters are basically proto-humans to us.
>>55278270
>You are human, a member of the dominant species of the planet.
exactly. we won.
>>55276244
i do think it should be outlawed, since vegetarians live longer on average
>>55276244
If we don't eat meat the population of grazing animals will explode
Grass and herbal good for said animals will become scarce, causing both animals and humans to starve
Also, what is no dietary restrictions
Also, healthy testosterone levels has to have have meat the diet
>>55278116
That's exactly what they used to say about animals. You know that, right?
http://science.howstuffworks.com/life/botany/plants-feel-pain.htm
http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-09/new-research-plant-intelligence-may-forever-change-how-you-think-about-plants
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGLABm7jJ-Y
http://www.theguardian.com/notesandqueries/query/0,,-83446,00.html
If an animal is going to stay alive, something else must die, whether it's an animal or a plant.
Only fruits "want" to be eaten, but all vegetables will activate defence systems when attacked.
I see the vegans are too pathetic to reply to these posts
>>55278096
>>55277875
Europe is being Islamised. And that means meat eating will be guaranteed.
And pic related. They are killed just for fun!! :D
You can't stop 1.2 billion meat eaters
Civilization has reached a point where those of us who reside in a first world country can maintain a healthy, balanced diet without the consumption of meat. This is indisputable. The way in which we harvest meat is unsustainable and could honestly lead to our downfall.
We have the capacity to make harder decisions for the greater good, so why not do it?
That being said, I have no real problem with people eating meat, I just detest the way we go about providing it and in reality the only alternatives are for there to be less people in the world and for us to eat less meat anyway.
I have killed animals for meat.
Secondly there is nothing wrong with not eating meat
but telling people they should not eat meat is fucking retarded, excluding the fact that it makes people call you retarded
>>55278353
So if you could end someone's life in a completely painless way it would be ok?
>>55278428
i eat a vegan diet and i still think not eating meat for moral reasons is retarded
you have an inflated sense of impotance
>>55276527
how long were you waiting to use that pic?
>>55276244
You speak like some faggot who never killed an animal and turned it into delicious meals.
>>55276244
>morally justify eating meat
Nature displays no taboos against eating other species. The only reason we have morality at all is for the purpose of societal order, without the end game of a functioning society, morality is completely subjective. Therefore, we can say the murder of 'pet' animals or animals kept around for purposes other than food is immoral because it
A-violates the pet's owner's right to property
B-contributes to societal breakdown and general unrest (strangers killing your pets without warning is generally upsetting enough to cause trouble that could escalate to retaliation)
C-is violence against a living thing for violence's sake. Violence (or rather, HARMFUL violence; not for sport or mutual entertainment) is universally justifiable only when prompted by necessity (though what defines necessity varies greatly, murdering an animal just to murder it is obviously without utility)
So there. There's your whole damn argument. You can eat some animals because there is no precedent in nature to treat other species with favor, you can't eat others because depending on which one it is it will either cause social issues or potentially disrupt a food chain.
So there.
>>55278372
>It is ok to eat animals because that is what animals do
Yeah, and animals also rape, kill and steal from each other. That's also what the "subhuman" blacks supposedly do but you all condemn that. But acts are okay for humans to do because animals do it?
Just fucking pathetic, meat is rotting your brains.
>>55278270
We're *currently* the dominant species. We've really only been running this show for the last 10,000 of the 4,600,000,000 years. You think the rest of the species on this planet will give a shit if we all just up and died overnight?
>we're totally different from animals so let's eat meat
>we're just like any other animal so let's eat meat
meat pussies should grow up and realize how pathetic it is for a human to eat animals like a subhuman who can't be held to any civilizational or ethical standards
>>55278514
>That's also what the "subhuman" blacks supposedly do
Yeah, you said that already.
>>55277287
You vegan fags DEMAND moral reasoning as to why we eat meat, so shut the fuck up with that bullshit
>>55278456
this. im ok with vegans but its the holier than thou assholes that i cant stand
they drive in their diesel powered cars that end up killing far more everyday and eat their non gmo foods where the harvestjng machines used for harvest end up killing animals in the area anyway
they are fucking idiots
The problem with your poor moral argument is that it is based on the premise that killing or hurting others is immoral or "wrong".
If 100 niggers threatened your brother and were about to kill him, but you were able to gun them all down right now, I would say it is immoral to not protect your brother, or any other member of your group or tribe. Thus I can say that killing / harming is not always unjustified.
As such, the argument that eating meat is bad because killing is not going to convince me of shit.
>>55276244
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yoJ4jD7WvAo
>>55278449
>>55278514
Lel.
Coward kuffar vegan can't reply
>>55278353
You're still ending its existence
Hypocritical murderer
>>55278350
Morality is based upon there being a punishment for doing bad actions.
If God does not exist there is no punishment. And vegans are weaklings anyway. So meat eaters will always get to eat meat. Because we can kill vegans if they stand in our way.
I absolutely love watching animals die
>>55276244
>morally wrong things equal penalizable things
You are a moron
>>55278640
>intelligent, nihilistic and with a wicked sense of humour the post
>>55278640
Someone has a chip on their shoulder :^)
>>55278449
I don't know about these guys in the picture
But im pretty sure they eat the "Sacrifices", and actually give away what they have in excess (also what they don't like to eat for example the head or w/e)
>>55276244
>morally
Morality only applies to other moral beings. Animals have no system of morality.
>>55278543
It's really sad, I don't know why I bother. I forget they're not on the same intellectual level.
>>55278514
Nature ordained the sacrifice of prey for the sustenance of the hunter. You are drawing a false comparison by making man both hunter and prey in your examples where the relationship as explained and verified by historical fact is interspecies and hierarchal.
>>55276244
don't you understand that without the human demand for mean trillions of lives (cows,chickens,etc) would have never been?
if living (usually) till your prime age then being killed is better than never living at all then people who create demand for animal products have the moral high ground.
check mate.
>>55278757
vegan here, you suck
Humans should act in such a way that they dominate the lesser species of this world. It should also be done in ways that provide the most benefit for our species.
>wicked person
Words like this only serve to hide your lack of an argument.
>>55276859
>chiken
Terrible predator. They had it coming
>>55276244
Arthur Schopenhauer is a faggot.
Also let's just ignore the fact that humans were never meant to consume the amount of meat we do which the recent studies into the relationship between cancer and red meat consumption highlight.
>>55278733
Islam will slaughter all who try to stop the consumption of halal meat
>>55278757
Still too scared to reply coward?
Haha. My local neighborhood fucked one of you up. Protesting outside the local butchers. Someone stuck a knife in him.
Filthy pig that he was :)
>>55278844
Dude got a lot of pussy for a faggot. that being said, his ethical system only works within the framework of his metaphysical system.
http://www.ergo-log.com/meatonly.html
Seriously guys the meat only diet works. It's ketosis on super mode but without the lethality.
I eat whatever I damn want, cucк. Cheap wieners from recycled hooves and stray dogs best day of my life.
>>55277811
Animals revitalize the soil and make fruits and vegetables grow better. Vegans and vegetarians are one-sided in their consumption and as such, woefully out of balance with nature.
Vegans vs Islam.
You lose vegans.
>tfw skinny beta vegan whitebois protest this butcher and leave with black eyes
>>55278757
>Given the option, surely it's just logical to avoid violence to animals
Sure, as long as it's violence for violence's sake.
In this world there is such thing as justified violence, for example the right of the state to use violence against trangresors, invaders, and criminals.
I argue that harvesting food is a legitimate cause to use violence.
>>55278855
Humans were never meant to live beyond their 40s.
>>55276244
"I quoted someone so it must be true" ~ An autist
It is morally neutral. Humans are an apex predator who evolved as omnivores as evidenced by our forward facing eyes (herbivores have eyes on the side of the head for watching for danger rather than at the front for observing prey) and there is nothing wrong with eating meat. At worst there is a problem with the meat industry and even that is debatable.
>>55278855
Correlation !=
>>55278757
>logical to want to avoid violence to animals.
Why exactly is this?
>>55278757
>>55278757
>>55278757
>>55278757
>>55278757
Please stop avoiding my argument. >>55278444
>>55277033
>We don't need to eat meat to survive.
What is Vitamin B12.
Not only is eating meat condoned, pointed out my mom, but animal sacrifice is actually required during Eid Al Adha, a celebration that falls during the Hajj period (pilgrimage to Mecca). Over 100 million animals are slaughtered annually during a period of 48 hours across the Islamic world – a statistic like that is enough to put any vegan off Islam.
HAHAHAHAAHAH btfo
>>55279082
He ignores anything that he can't argue against
>>55278892
>Islam will slaughter anyone who stops them from eating halal meat
I think anyone will slaughter anyone if you try to stop them from eating meat.
What your point
>>55277287
I rescued a pigeon from the side of the road and kept him in my apartment for 2 months until his wing was healed despite the fact the he smelled awful and shat on all my nice things
but if pigeons were food I'd eat him sure as rain.
>>55276244
>morals
>laws
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>55279082
>tfw apart from meat I really like vegetables
I really do hate all of nature's creations it seems
dem tasty hot peppers too
>>55276244
Morally justify stopping animals from eating meat.
Animals are just as important as humans, therefore they should be held to the same standards, and not mercilessly kill other animals.
If you can do that, I'll go vegan. Stop animal on animal violence.
>>55276244
We kill tens of trillions of microscopic animals for fresh drinking water.
This world is a kill or be killed world. Even trees will spread their leaves and block the sun for growing seedlings choking them of the sunlight they need to survive.
It is either kill or die. Why am I supposed to be concerned with the 1/50th of an animal killed every day for my food?
>>55279170
We are 1.2 billion.
And we are immune to leftists.
If OP tried to confront me in real life for eating halal I could call him a bigoted racist islamophobe and have him fired from his job, and be arrested.
Islam wins every time.
>>55278295
Underrated post
>>55278428
Really? This thread has clearly shown which one of us is in the right. You smug veganfags deserve to die
>>55279263
PLEASE THINK OF THE MICROSCOPIC ORGANISMS
>>55278295
>This kills the hippie
"Anyway, so that roommate of mine is a convert to Islam. She converted less than a year ago. She'd tell me how so many Muslims keep telling her that you can't be vegan and Muslim. Reason? Because you're supposedly forbidding on yourself something that God has allowed you. Oh, you'll be surprised how many people actually fall for this line of thinking. I'm happy that my roommate didn't. In fact, for her, it was like, "If I have to choose one, then I choose vegan. This is my lifestyle, and if any religion's gonna forbid it on me, then I don't want to follow that religion." I completely agree with her"
Guess what? She was killed for Apostasy :)
>>55279131
But anon, you can get that from Red Bull(tm)
It gives you wings! But don't eat those.
>>55279243
>nature's creations
they were made by God anon :^)
and you can eat all of them
>>55276244
>Morally justify eating meat.
I don't give a shit about the feelings of the creatures I eat.
Lions don't beat themselves up over the emotions of gazelles why should we?
why is everyone seriously replying to obvious bait?
is this a new meme?
>>55276244
Evolution, survival of the fittest, makes faggots cry, https://www.youtube.com/user/VeganTruth makes this faggot cry a lot. Also, what justification do you have that doesn't involved muh feels
>>55278444
I'm yet to hear a single explanation as to how plants can feel pain, or anything, without a nervous system.
>>55279557
People call us Muslims barbaric...
But we are simply logical.
Why argue with someone like this? When you can kill him and silence him forever?
>>55279355
Indeed. It stops the argument against eating meat dead.
And it doesn't even go into pesticides to prevent insects from eating your house, animal products in everything from glue to textiles, and the countless parasites your body kills without your permission because otherwise you'll rot from the inside.
Every breath we take kills something. I fail to understand why vegans fail to grasp that. They live in fairy land.
- Shit-Tier comic
- Shit-Tier quote by Shit-Tier philosopher
- Shit-Tier argument
Gr8 b8, m8.
Also, this is why you should never let your kids have pets. They'll end up limp-dick vegan furries.
>>55276244
>goodness of character, and it may be confidently asserted that he who is cruel to animals cannot be a good man.
Subjective set of values and morals, second edition.
>>55279644
Exactly why mecca should be nuked
>>55279557
Pain is a response to harmful stimuli, to cease such stimuli
Plants show response to harmful stimuli, with the intent to stop such stimuli
Therefore plants "feel pain" in a sort of way. Not like an aimal, but plants also have self-preservation instincts.
>>55279026
There are many things wrong with bio industry, animals have feelings and they are treated like objects how,can you disagree with that
>>55276244
bitch my stomach is a graveyard and i consume not only the flesh but the very soul of my prey..get some Kentucky fried death you little kek
>>55277244
>mfw the top unis in YOUR country now snap their fingers instead of clapping to not triggers autists
>>55278350
Religion is the belief that there is hidden order to the universe and wanting to live in harmony with it. Morality is often obscure enough to have to be a hidden aspect of the universe if it is one, so moral foundations must necessarily be religious. Without religion, morality has no basis. Who is to decide what is good or bad without God or some higher force? If you leave it to man, they will do what they want and justify it after. That's like publishing the results of the experiment, and then conducting it, but it doesn't stop people from doing just this, and more so with it in their hands there's no real justification for them not doing just that. With the right assumptions you can arrive at any conclusion, just as you can make meat evil, so too can pic related equate vegetarian with genocide. Also, causing pain isn't necessarily evil, so to say any act that causes an animal pain is evil is nonsense.
>>55279646
they only want to inflate their egos
might as well ban antibiotics because it kills the mrsa bacteria just trying to live on your flesh
>>55279749
It's really satisfying.
Don't you feel the same rage when someone disobeys you?
>>55279891
By "you" I meant OP. Pardon me.
>>55278270
>such great power and privilege
>privilege
Found the Tumblratard
>>55277033
Raping, stealing, torturing and killing cows you don't own is also illegal. What's your point?
Eating meat is degenerate. And immoral. It's for the unintelligent and luckily it causes obesity so it's easier to spot the dumb fucks
>>55279383
>>55279644
>UK Flag
>Muslims
Low tier b8 m8
>>55276244
>Morally justify eating meat.
Tell that to the entire world of carnivores.
>>55279891
Let's replace an endangered species with, say "Humans".
Option 1: Humans are kept in captivity for thousands of years, generation after generation being raised for 15 years, every moment suffering, just to be slaughtered. Every single one living every second in untold misery. But at least they didn't go extinct.
Option 2: They die peacefully and go extinct.
>>55280051
You mad bitchboy?
You would be killed if you said that in public.
lil bitch
>>55279557
Are you hearing how speciest you sound right now? Just because a plant isn't made up of the same exact parts like you doesn't mean it can't feel pain. Plants obviously react negatively when they are being threatened, cut, or killed, in many different ways. Who are you to say that pain can't exist without a nervous system???
Don't tread on plants, you bigoted plantist shitlord.
>>55280122
Stay mad.
Let's have a war between vegans and meat eaters.
Let's see who wins.
I'm glad all you misanthropic kuffar will burn in hell.
I can't wait to slit another lambs throat in my nephews halal abbotoir and hear it squeal
:)
>>55280051
>meat causes obesity
Which is why obesity has only been a problem recently, now that over the past 50 years mankind suddenly stopped being herbivores. Not like obesity has anything to do with mass produced addictive sugar filled snacks or the cheapness of fat and oily fast food (see french fries). Meat isn't degenerate. Any diet that causes malnutrition is degenerate.
>>55276244
Animals are objectively inferior creatures lacking higher cognitive abilities, and have evolved to be our lunch.
>>55276244
You don't need a moral justification to not outlaw something. In fact, American law is specifically designed to prevent the interference of morality. The only times moral arguments are used in laws are when they're axiomatic to begin with.
And what the fuck is so heinous about killing livestock for food? What am I depriving it of? The rich and meaningful life of a chicken? I think I can live with myself, and a tasty chicken sandwich will help me cope.
TL;DR Nobody cares about your feels except you; quit crying and fuck off.
>>55280122
>every moment suffering
I wasn't aware you understood what it was like to be a cow destined to become beef. I honestly didn't know cows could post on here.
>>55280122
>suffering
>cows
Topkek, honey. Only thing a cow cares about is if it's had its grass.
>>55276244
>chinese
>koreans
>human
>>55276244
>Morally justify eating meat
Morality is subjective. There is no universal, objective morality.
>>55280534
Asians (aside from Jews, of course) really are the most degenerate race.
>>55280534
That's funny as hell
Stupid mutt
>>55276364
>mfw I'm shit
>>55280582
Coming from captain gay marriage...
And before you start. I am an actual Muslims so
:) hehe feels good to slowly kill your father.
>>55276244
Do as thou wilt
>>55276244
I wish I could somehow slaughter my own food, but it's not feasible.
>>55280534
Yeah it's common knowledge that slantier the eyes the less empathetic the gook is gunna be
>>55276244
I'd go vegetarian, but I can't stop eating all this pussy and ass.
>>55280582
Yes but they have some evil genius aspect to them that make them so strong I mean look at them. They are more in control than you or I
>>55280681
>>55280629
Watch yourself on that edge lad
>>55280629
I wonder if you're a troll or just an average Paki?
>>55278449
Cool holocaust Ahmed.
>>55276244
That's why I'm vegetarian. I don't care if animals kill each other in the wild, it doesn't excuse humans from making their lives miserable before consumption. Sometimes they get abused too, like beat and tortured.
>>55280268
Poe's law in full force
Still, I want an explanation. I'd happily accept if one was offered.
>>55280433
>>55280523
My point is asking whether preventing extinction is justification for suffering.
By your responses I take it you don't think it is.
Where would you draw the line, and have you been to any automated slaughterhouses recently?
>>55280908
Not exactly sure what you mean by this. We don't use slaughterhouses to prevent the extinction of cattle. We used slaughterhouses to slaughter cattle for food.
>>55281015
I was responding to the comic here:
>>55279891
It's a bullshit argument that deserves to be ridiculed.
>>55276244
Morally justify eating plantlife
who cares.
You can't stop us
>muh morality smearing justification
>muh you eating meat means I can rape children mentality
Why the fuck is everyone so fucking stupid?
>>55276972
Eating meat your whole life and never once butchering and killing an animal is incredibly disrespectful to animals
At least by killing them you are forced to realize and appreciate exactly what it is you're eating
Not doing this is childishly shutting out the parts of reality you don't care for
>>55276890
>Your manhood is not proportional
Actually, meat is a great source of testosterone
Most other food has a bunch of estrogen in it
Thats why vegans are so skinny and effeminate, while us omnivores and carnivores look like real men
>>55278025
Plants are definitely harmed. A plant's sole reason for existence is to spread its seed. When you eat it, you stop it from spreading its DNA.
Every tomato you eat is infanticide.
>>55276244
>humans have canine teeth
>>55281453
Implying you need to be forced to realize something to realize something.
I drive my car. I am aware someone built my car. I don't need to build my car to respect it.
>>55277979
>accused
So you admit that you're accusing us of immoral behaviour, and therefore the burden of proof?
Thank you mr. Troll.
>>55281680
>canine teeth
uhhhh, anon
>>55276244
Morals are social construct.
>>55281865
>appropriating moralkin culture this bad
do you even check your privilege, shitlord?
>>55276244
>Rise, Peter. Kill and eat.
Acts 10:13.
>>55276527
My belly is a graveyard
I grow more powerful with each animal I consume
>>55281767
I do think that people don't at least try to learn the basics of how their car works are missing out.
At least witness the killing and butchery of an animal, not many people have the time to go and do that themselves, I understand, but not acquainting yourself with what puts that meat on your plate is discrespectful to the animal, as you're only acknowledging that cut of its flesh, not the whole animal that provided it
>>55278757
>I'm lion lol go
fuck yourself.
>you're a wicked person
Ow, my feelings..
>>55276244
I am amoral :^)
>>55276244
Humanities pleasure in consuming lower animals outweighs the lives that are destroyed.
Get over it.
>>55280293
that's a good falseflag veganfaggot, the british flag makes it extra believable
However every civilised western culture knows that animals should be killed as quickly and painlessly as possible
We even stopped selling live exports to shitskins for a while because they are cruel/have no soul
Don't eat meat? That's fine, just don't expect me to abandon the food that caused us to become so intelligent that we dominate the planet
>>55282686
>Humanity's.
![1310485591942[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6CZJ7w7.jpg "1310485591942[1].jpg")
>>55276244
It is objective fact that we evolved as omnivores
To deny our natural dietary habits is to deny our primal selves a pleasurable impulse
Any universally applied ban on meat consumption would immediately create a black market that the vast majority of the population would at least be tempted by. A much more pronounced version of the result of Prohibition.
This tears at the very fabric of society, calling into question the legitimacy of any government that would bring in such a ban on meat. In an extreme case, this could contribute to, not necessarily cause, total political collapse in a given society
As-is, the expansion and enforcement of humane killing regulation places emphasis on eliminating as much cruelty as possible from the process of killing an animal, meaning not only is our allowance of meat consumption good for human society, it's objectively the least cruel means any animal on Earth has ever killed for food.
>>55280039
> Clear
> Concise
> Point addressed irrefutably
> Extra points for smugness
10/10 #rekt
Argument dismissed, on to the next one.
Veggieshills getting BTFO ITT
>>55276244
Plants feel "pain" when being cut and launch distress calls in reaction
So let's just not eat anything and die, right? It's the moral thing to do.
>>55276244
Eating animals is not the same as animal cruelty. In some cases, like the obvious example of culling herds to prevent overpopulation and thereby terrible lengthy deaths due to starvation, NOT killing animals should be considered animal cruelty over killing them.
So let's examine the relationship between humans and farm animals.
They owe their life to me.
I feed them.
I shelter them.
I protect them from harm, famine and disease.
Without me they would either have nasty, brutish and short lives or not even have existed at all.
In return, following a painless and sudden death at a reasonably advanced age, I eat them and use the left-over parts of the carcass to feed other animals (dogs and cats) and create clothing, tools and art.
I am a part-owner of a biological, animal friendly farm. The work I do and the products I sell actually REDUCE animal suffering and premature death by providing my local community with an alternative to the bio-industrial animal products they would otherwise consume.
Also, human bodies need the sustenance that animal products provide. There is no realistic way to produce vitamin B12 supplements in the quantities required to nourish the entire world population.
There is also the fact that nature itself gives all the justification you need. The predator-prey relationship is one that is also (maybe especially so) a part of being human. To deny ourselves animal products is to deny ourselves the human experience. Animal friendly farming is a great achievement of humankind where the predator-prey relationship has become symbiotic. Both predator and prey have better lives with eachother than could be achieved without eachother.
Some people who are not animal-friendly inclined can, in a sense rightly so, justify their eating meat by the phrase: "Fuck cows, I like hamburgers."
After all, does the lion or the crocodile give a fuck if the prey suffers?
>>55276244
we're at the top of the food chain, if we don't respect that fact we're liable to get replaced
>>55276244
I have compassion for animals that I don't eat, but I couldn't give a single shit about livestock.
Hell if we were to outlaw the consumption of meat like you seem to want, then all of the species we keep as livestock would go extinct.
Vegetarian = Genocide
>>55276244
It wouldn't be surprising if meat were outlawed in the United States of Cück. One more reason for your speedy decline.
It tastes good.
>>55276244
Eating meat is not a moral concern.
Human beings are animals, and most living things consume other living things for food - not many things directly consume free amino acids, you see?
The problem in your mind is that you see that morally it is wrong to kill another human, and you equate human suffering to animal suffering. "I wouldn't want to be rounded up and eaten and so I shouldn't do it to lesser animals".
The only real endpoint of your argument is suicide. That's it. You're saying life is essentially "bad" - should tigers be stopped? Other predators?
We are animals. We can't really do anything about that. But we are capable of understanding ethics and animal suffering, and when it comes down to it, I'd rather have a comfy life in a field then be herded and shot in the head with a bolt gun, than torn apart by hyenas.
>>55276244
-meat is delicious
-as the dominant species, we can do what we want with the lesser species
>>55276591
This
>>55283797
And as an addendum to this anons point - farming = destroying ecosystems = killing animals anyway.
When you eat a nice strawberry, are you aware of how many animals and other living things have to be deterred from eating it? Do you think they "relocate" animals trying to eat crops?
I want to and you can't stop me.
No better justification than that.
Just gonna leave this here, and laugh about this half assed bait. Vegans are hilarious.
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