Right. We're gonna have to discuss the PEGIDA Netherlands of today. First, the scores:
32 arrests, of which 30 among lefty scum and 2 from a Pegida supporter.
We're all scum, evidently. So says the media. They only mention "pegida arrests" implying its all right wing guys. There were 150-200 guys at the peak to support PEGIDA. Pic related are the people present from /pol/. All in all, it was very unpleasant and there was a clear attitude of dislike from the police towards us. We were moved to and from the location by bus, under a police escort of a dozen busses and over 100 policemen.
>>55261909
For some reason, the police prohibited pic related, with a subtexct reading "islam go back (Islam ga terug) and this lead to the arrest of one of the two arrests among PEGIDA supporters. The man who was arrested vehemently defended freedom of speech.
>>55262033
I just saw it on the news, but i dont know what to do
only muslims are allowed to be racist or threaten with violence
when a dutch person warns others that islam is dangerous they are threatening with violence themselves
i just
dont know what to do anymore
the world feels surreal, like its a bad dream and someday im gonna wake up
>>55262114
>i just dont know what to do anymore
KAMPF DEN DU SCHWULER!
Nee, maar echt. Kom naar PEGIDA. Laat je horen. Verzet je tegen de shit waar je het mee oneens bent. Het is inderdaad absurd dat een openlijke jodenhater bij Pauw mag komen om te zeggen wat hij vindt, maar een cartoon wordt verboden op een anti-islam demonstratie (die, no shit, misschien kwetsend is tegen Islam).
>>55262461
Toch vreemd want officieel zijn de borden niet strafbaar, sinds een aantal jaar al, want ze kwamen eerst van die Deense krant.
Geen vervolging om cartoons - AD.nl http://m.ad.nl/ad/m/nl/1012/Nederland/article/detail/2045624/2009/08/18/Geen-vervolging-om-cartoons.dhtml via @ADnl
>>55262791
Natuurlijk zijn ze niet strafbaar. Was gewoon pure pesterij van de politie om mensen op de zenuwen te werken.
Wat ik dom vind is dat PEGIDA dan optreedt met zo'n reactie. Beter om die borden vast te houden, rang en naam van de agent op te vragen, en ze het wetboek strafrecht voor te houden en ze te vragen welk artikel dit zou verbieden.
had je die video gezien van Edwin? Toen wij in de bus stapten werd hij omring door 8 man te fiets en 2 politie te paard. Belachelijk gewoon.
Ja had ik gezien. Belachelijk. Waar heb je trouwens die foto vandaan? Niet dat ik t erg vind hoor om er op te staan.
In de NOS uitzending zag je ons ook nog de bus instappen op de terugweg.
>>55263198
Kwam van twitter. Een of andere Turk die er ook rondliep. Via geenstijl. Die Turk was er vorige keer ook.
Waren wij op de NOS ja? Heb je een link? Wil ik nog wel zien.
>>55263463
Heb geen link maar zag het in de uitzending van 8 uur.
>>55261909
>200 people
>even the Krauts has ten times that number
>>55263463
Heb toch wel een link. Niet zeker of die t doet als je geen joodboek hebt.
https://m.facebook.co
m/events/107969709566890?view=permalink&id=113523599011501&_rdr
Is it me or did PEGIDA get BTFO today?
>>55263964
The krauts also have a population about 5 times our number, mate.
>>55263198
Ben jij trouwens KingStannisBaratheon op Geenstijl? Anders was er nog iemand van ons daar.
>>55265053
Its you, homo. We did okay, although we were hampered on all sided by police. Still more lefties were arrested.
by the way, where were all you kanker homos who promised to come? I tallied at least 6 men last time, excluding foreigners, and there were only 2 of us today. And there were 5 of us last time.
Cowards.
>>55261909
How many lefties were there?
>>55262114
Muslims and liberal pigs.
>>55266685
No idea. I saw someone mention 40 people, but I wouldnt be surprised if it were a bit more.
So, who's going to replace "Ed aus Holland", because he said that he wants to go back to organizing the German PEGIDA.
>>55268657
Man, I dont think anyone would volunteer. Id give it a go for 3 or 4 times, but no more.
When and where did he say that though? His enthusiasm for PEGIDA seems undiminished.
>>55264103
>bait
>>55268983
>one of the guys who was actually there today unlike your cowardly ass
>calling it bait
He's pictured in the fucking OP, unlike you, you disgusting untermensch.
You can do it dutchbros. Let them call you racist, they wont stop if you feel offended by it anyway.
Leftists do it here too. There are little to no confrontations on pegida rallys themself. You only have problems once lefties appear and try to escalate the situation.
>>55268826
Only the Dutch PEGIDA, he said it in Pauw.
>>55261909
The best tactic for Pegida to reach out for those who oppose them is the following:
>Point out hatred of gays among european muslims
>Use black ex-muslim woman like Ayaan Hirsi Ali to do this
This 3 minute clips describes the absurdity of the current migration policy and offers a simple solution on how to fix it. It's imo the best clip to redpill those who support the current migration madness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWnjEhsXWsY
>>55269255
>There are little to no confrontations on pegida rallys themself.
I remember one guy being almost beat to death with metal staves on the anniversary of PEGIDA last year, in Dresden. We were escorted by more cops than protesters under a ridiculous curfew. There were 4 buses of cops in front of us and 6 buses of cops behind us. We made up 2 buses. We made up a column of vehicles, with sirens on, from park to station and back. It was preposterous.
But there were some German bros there! Thankfully. Es lebe Deutschland!
>>55269436
>>Point out hatred of gays among european muslims
Absolutely nothing wrong hating fags because fags tend to be liberals and liberals were the ones who opened the flood gates.
>Europoors
>Tolerate faggotry and degeneracy
>Is shocked and angry when nature rewards with death and decay
>>55269312
I doubt it. He was isolated and surrounded by 12 policeman on horse and bike today, and he refused to back down until he was isolated to a mere 1 square meter. Hes not the kind of man to back down, and good on him. Nowhere in his attitude did it seem evident he wanted to surrender this.
>>55269436
We tried both. We used every sane argument a man can use. The left condemns us as nazi and inhuman regardless.
>hirsi ali
A corrupt whore who sought refuge in her religion to escape her crimes. But maybe we will need her.
>>55269870
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuLNbsmtkm8
He says it somewhere in here bruh, he says he's going to hand over the leadership.
>>55261909
you did the right thing, be blessed
>>55269658
>Tolerate faggotry and degeneracy
>regards canadian
kek
>>55270059
I doubt he will actually stop. I saw him today, and he seemed of no mind to. But he does say so there, yeah...
>>55270367
You misread his post, dear mongolian bro.
De houding van de politie is zorgwekkend. Waarom drukken ze vrijheid van meningsuiting de kop in?
>>55271184
Bahahaa sukkelaars
>>55271184
Orders, vermoedelijk. Hebben wat meer nodig voor de politie zelf iets doet
>>55271324
Ja oke, afvallige provincie.
>>55261909
I'd go if the majority wasn't skinheads or neckbeards like the guy in the suit in OP's pic.
>>55271678
its making me laugh how you can take yourslef and your pegida movement seriously. Its so blatantly stuck in 19th century era thinking your 'goals' will never be achieved.
We live in the 21st century ffs nationalism isnt really a thing anymore. focus on your own personal growth and I assure you you will feel happier.
Trouwens hollanders kunnen toch niet vechten
>>55271734
To be honest I wouldnt want to be associated with anyone in OP's picture...
>>55271734
>like the guy in ops pic
Im a guy with a job, education and general okay level. How am I fucking skinhead, you idiot? I was even on TV to show how the right can have nuance.
>>55271949
Because youre a coward.
>>55271859
En jouw boodschap is dus eigenlijk... kanker aan identiteit? Wat bedoel je met je haat aan nationalisme, halfgare belg? Ik verdien en werk trouwens best, maat. Mij ontwikkeling is top.
>>55272267
Nationalism now only leads to divisiveness and violence. it's basically niggert tier, because it has useful role to play anymore.
Its the era of universal global communication, the human race is more than ever connected and is mostly sharing the same goals: having a peaceful life.
Why try to stop this evolution with artificial barriers such as ouderwets nationalism?
>>55271859
>Its so blatantly stuck in 19th century era
I MEAN COME ON
>>55272487
That is some high quality bait.
Shit, you're good. Have all my (You)s.
>>55272487
>Nationalism now only leads to divisiveness and violence. it's basically niggert tier, because it has useful role to play anymore.
What a fucking joke you are. The decline of nationalism led to higher poverty, crime and disconnect between classes and races than ever before. You can have global communications without bringing each and every nation into one and other...
>artificial barriers
Why are you speaking an artificial language? It doesn't really mean anything, it's just a series of sounds assigned meaning by people. Stop using currency too, that's artificial.
>>55272580
pls tell me why this is bait.
Pegida is so deluded.
>>55272487
HAHHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
Oke, en nou opkankeren linkse kankerhomo.
>>55272676
Lol there's less poverty and violence now than ever before, and there's a direct correlation with the lack of nationalism. You know im right.
>>55272763
have fun with your pegida mates ;)
Im sure your family must be so proud of you
>>55266610
Alsof het nu heeft drie uur te reizen in pak om tussen een stel mondademende agentjes te worden vastgezet en gevilifieërd. Wat doen is prima, maar dit helpt niet
>>55272686
This guy doesn't want to get kicked out of europe
>>55272487
Clearly bait, but:
Immigrants hate us more than we hate them. They also protect their own culture and religion more than we protect ours. We (at least in Belgium) are reverse-assimilating. By that I mean: we are adjusting to the newcomers, not the other way around.
>>55272267
Most won't admit it, but appearance does matter
>All in all, it was very unpleasant and there was a clear attitude of dislike from the police towards us
I thought the police have right wing sympathies, I guess not though considering they're the enforcers of state cückism
>>55272768
Don't try to talk sense in these stormweenies bro. They are always right and everyone should listen to them cause they are right! '
Why don't they just fuck off, they don't belong in EU, maybe Africa is a better place with that way of thinking.
inb4 MUH RACE MUH NATIONALITY MUH COUNTRY
Mate its 2015, no one cares about your racist ideology. The only thing that government thinks about is having a good economy and stability in their country. The way you guys are handling is actually hurting it. So you will never win this ''war''.
>He wants to live in a country with Jan Peter and Kees so he can smile at the moon and say I feel warm inside knowing they are all Dutch!!!
>>55273030
yadda yadda nice theories.
meanwhile i am having a lot of fun with my burundese, turkish, philippine friends.
good luck being bitter in life you close minded moron
>>55273154
Where do you live, o enlightened one?
>>55273123
Your argument doesn't hold up.
>he wants to live in a country with muhammad and ali so he can look up to the statue of Karl Marx and say i feel warm inside knowing i'm so tollerant!!!
>proceeds to get stabbed
>>55261909
>Political positions
>At the beginning of December 2014, Pegida published an undated and anonymous one-page manifesto of 19 bulleted position statements.:
>Approves the right of asylum for war refugees and politically persecuted people.
>Advocates the decentralised acceptance of refugees and torture victims, instead of often poor quality refugee centres.
>Suggests creation of a central refugee agency for a fair allocation of immigrants among countries of the European Union.
>States that Pegida opposes a misogynistic and violent political ideology, but does not oppose assimilated and politically moderate Muslims.[44]
>Says that Pegida opposes hate speech, regardless of religion.
More like C.U.C.K.G.I.D.A
>>55273251
Brugge, but I often venture in brussels to meet my diverse friends
>>55273280
youre making a lot of fallacious /pol/ assumptions. go out more and make new friends, it will teach you things
such as: muhammad often is a nice guy too
>>55273347
i guess charlie hebdo deserved to be gunned down.
>>55272853
Nee, want mijn vader is een tiefus communist. Verdien nog steeds MINSTENS 40,000 piek meer per jaar dan iij ;)
>>55273154
How about you go fucking die, race traitor?
>>55272875
>maar dit helpt niet
No, sitting at home and doing nothing, that really helps.
>>55272557
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>>55272509
Thank you for this.
>>55273347
you're* making a lot of fallacious >>>tumblr assumptions. go out more and make new friends, it will teach you things
such as: muhammad rarely is a nice guy, but his friend Ali really wishes to get rid of national identity
M8 see how biased you logic is. I'm not even a stormweenie
>>55273457
of course not.
i would also not be friends with the perpetrators.
but those might as well've been disillusioned french guys
face it immigrants are structurally worse off in our countries, and it causes them to often do stupid things. and you cant blame genetics 100% theres large part injustice in the system
>>55273461
Want dat zijn de enige twee uitersten zeker? Alsjeblieft, die kortzichtigheid kunnen wij niet gebruiken
>>55273347
I literally work as a bureaucrat for integration of Rotterdam.90% of my colleagues and targets are non-dutch. And yeah, they are by no means secular, democratic, individualistic or ambitious. Because non-europeans are just that way. They pay waaay less into the system than they earn.
>>55273313
Fuck off.
>>55273347
I live in Brussels. My girlfriend was robbed by two Arabs at knifepoint. My friend was robbed and beaten by four Arabs. A classmate of mine was thrown onto the subway tracks by 3 Arabs and one African. All fights in my former highschool were by non-Whites. My former elementary school and the houses in my neighbourhood have been filled with graffiti. All female friends of mine experiencing street harassment did so from Arabic men/teenagers. Fellow students at my university have been robbed by gypsies when returning home at night. Crime and conflict on campus grounds has steadily increased as Brussels increasingly Arabified/Islamised population starts taking over.
So please shut the fuck up about diversity.
>>55273582
How are they structurally worse off if they receive more welfare?
>>55272487
>Its the era of universal global communication, the human race is more than ever connected and is mostly sharing the same goals: having a peaceful life.
And the number one most important factor for "having a peaceful life" is not having any(other) middle easterners or blacks in your vicinity.
Which is why, in this "era of universal global communication" we see the blacks and middle easterners leaving their homelands in droves to live in the prosperous and safe white nations of Europe, built, sustained, and populated by whites. And the Europeans getting sick of them, elections being decided on that issue alone.
>>55273582
>but those might as well've been disillusioned french guys
Nope, Charlie Hebdo had been baiting Catholics and the French for eternity, it was only the Muslims that felt they had to avenge their prophet's inability to face satire.
>>55273123
You're absolutely naïve and the time will come when you will realize our statements do have merit. Bringing in limitless economic immigrants payed for by the taxpayer is neither good for the economy or stability of our country, it also weakens solidarity and the Dutch identity. Also take in mind that this is being forced upon us by the EU since we gave away most of our sovereignty, if they were to let people vote about this matter I would have not a single doubt that the majority would be against it.
>>55273627
Dat zijn ze ja. Of je bent een werkende, nederige hollander. Of je bent een uitvreter.
>>55273582
>but those might as well've been disillusioned french guys
You dont understand Islam even remotely. Islam is at fault here. I disagree with loads of people, doesnt mean I'll murder them for their opinion. Only muslims do that.
>>55273582
i'd like to believe this version but muslim's are stirring too much shit in the world to make this scenario fit. look at the Middle East, it's ablaze. listen to the muslims yourself, not just your progressive friends, but also imams and the kind of people you'd be less inclined to meet. many of them hate the west. their resentment may be caused by social injustice or religious motives, when it gets to a point where it inspires blind murder, it doesn't really make a difference.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JquXlQTBWOo
>>55273714
clearly you cant have an objective opinion if you live amidst the worst cases
>>55261909
Is that Lucius Vorenus?
>>55273313
Kek. You live in Bruges, a nice homogenous tourist town. 4% of the population there is foreign. It's always the same with you tolerant types. You don't experience the reality of it, so you just don't know.
I actually live near Brussels. I go to work there every day like most of my family. My father was originally from Anderlecht in Brussels. Guess what it looks like now? It's completely Arab, nobody Belgian lives there anymore. We've been driven out.
My old highschool has had to make their tests easier TWICE since I graduated, because the (government forced) acceptance of non-Belgian students means these new students don't speak Dutch and can't keep up in any classes. The Belgians who still go to school there now have lower quality education thanks to people like you that vote socialist and force these quota.
Other events:
-regularly called "dirty Fleming" by non-whites
-me and a friend got pulled off the bus on our way to school by a group of brown people because they thought we were laughing at them, they fought us
-mother's business was robbed by immigrants
Let's also not forget that the unemployment rate is 20% in Brussels.
>>55273817
Het zijn dat soort uitspraken en taalgebruik waardoor pegida niet serieus genomen word.
>>55273939
I REALLY hate that belgium is infected with this and you still have keks supporting it. such a small country. FUCK!
>>55272487
>Nationalism now only leads to divisiveness and violence.
Violence is the only thing that will protect you from violence. Nationalism is crude and irrational, but if push comes to shove it will help a group survive when it is accosted by another group.
When the "refugees" make up 20% of the population and start forming their own militias, Lebanon style, we will need nationalism, or we will perish. A small warrior group can take over a large indifferent population - ask the Romans (wait, you can't, they were dominated by the relatively small but combative group of Germanic invaders).
Good show Nederland.
>>55273939
strange, my anecdotal evidence from meeting those people personnally (respectfully!!!) says otherwise.
Obviously you have a biased viewpoint to start (cf. the islamophobic remarks of your fellow racists >>55273818
>>55273817
im sure you would like to collaborate with).
Youre at least as bad as the violent immigrants, since youre in a position of power and theyre here inherently weaker.
wouldnt that make you feel threatened too???
>>55272487
>being this retarded
Oh my sweet summer child..
>>55274088
I know, it's all the people that don't live near the immigrant areas. Every Belgian that I know that lives or works in Brussels is extremely racist.
>>55273874
Yeap. Blonde guy is Lucius Vorenus. Guy in suit is Caesar.
>>55273997
Leuk voor je, allochtoon. Binnenkort sterf jij of kanker je op. Jouw keus. Liefst maak ik je af.
>>55274090
How is nationalism irrational? Wanting to preserve your own heritage and culture to give your people a sense of identity is perfectly rational.
>>55274164
achmed ga terug naar marroko
>>55273154
>>55273313
>rootless cosmopolitan lectures the plebs about their backwards and unenlightened values
>>55274164
>He disagrees with me therefore he must be biased
Progressive debating 101
>>55274164
>youre in a position of power
I am? Really. What is it I get to decide or determine, you fucking homo?
>wouldnt that make you feel threatened too???
If it did, maybe I would stay in my own fucking country. Kanker landverrader.
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>Ja had ik gezien. Belachelijk. Waar heb je trouwens di
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>>55274196
ERRrrrrrmmm noo I have a belgian friend with degree in chemical engineering, now teaching in the most difficult TSO school in Molenbeek and she is loving it.
You all have your mind made up full of shortcut /pol/ tier infofacts which dont reflect the truth AT ALL..
whatever your view only harm yourself in the long, its like youre willfully dragging yourself down.wanting to see enemies everywhere.
I enjoy the positive vibes meeting people with such interesting stories every week
>>55274196
Because it's small it could also be cleaned up much more quickly. People could be deported more easily. The architecture, food, beer, everything about it is exclusively european. Place needs to be defended.
>>55261909
Lefty scum needs to be roughed up by police
If the police dont rough up lefty scum those same whitepolice men will ine day lose their jobs to non-whites
>>55274349
>degree in chemical engineering, now teaching in the most difficult TSO school in Molenbeek and she is loving it.
chemical engineer
teaching TSO retards in molenbeek
yeah right
>>55274349
Statistics represent the truth better than your anecdotal evidence I'm afraid.
>>55261909
Good luck to you, negroes. I'm counting on you. :^)
>>55274417
YUP its true! sadly 4chan is not the place to disclose such personal information :(
BUT SEE: You cant believe it! Clearly some /pol/ info in your head has to be wrong, since there appears to be some contradiction happening with your opinions!!
>>55272487
Because niggers and muslims do not understand not to rape white women
>>55274499
It's already over kaffer
>>55274349
yeah, you're very 'enlightened' you clueless motherfucker.
>>55274210
Oei pas op, als je rent met scharen snij je jezelf!
Maar dat terzijde ik weet dat ik meer Nederlands bloed en liefde voor dit land heb dan jij. Het verschil zit hem in dat ik geen overgewicht heb en autistische uitbarstingen krijg als mijn foutieve logica wordt ontdekt.
>>55274265
Maybe arbitrary or artificial are better words. Nationalism is usually invented, and the groups included or excluded are arbitrary. But as soon as it crystallizes in the minds of people it becomes real, and the group it created becomes a reality.
>>55274503
>/pol/ boogeyman
>you're wrong, I'm right!
classical
>>55274489
I agree, i was actually trying to point out the fact that most info here that the pegida extremists post also only is hearsay or at best anecdotal.
statistics have to take into account the bigger struggle newcomers have to fit in.
If you would actually go out and meet them youd realize they try their best, but racists like most here dont make it easier for them
>>55274349
>she
>teaching chemical engineering
I dont believe you for a fucking second. Care to source that claim?
>whatever your view only harm yourself in the long,
Nah. We will kill the moroccans. Not ourselves. Dont worry. We will give race traitors like you a quick death. Rassenverrader.
I support pegida
>>55274503
>BUT SEE: You cant believe it! Clearly some /pol/ info in your head has to be wrong, since there appears to be some contradiction happening with your opinions!!
i hope you realize that you are pathetic
>>55274591
plz tell me how i can source it without disclosing public info..
>>55274547
brussels is basicly a caliphate. like antwerp, charlerloi and liege
>>55274349
Except the statistics completly destroy your wishful thinking, faggot.
>>55274627
more pathetic than you, shitting the internet with absurd racist claims?
I mean pegida is the ultimate pathetic movement, how can it get worse than that? No on I know IRL wants to be associated with such extremists in any way
>>55274580
>Nationalism is usually invented
Nope, tribalism is as old as time itself, protecting your group against the interests and the traditions of others has always been consistant throughout history. If anything, multiculturalism is invented and unnatural.
>arbitrary
Nope, it's inherited by birth.
>>55274551
>ik weet dat ik meer Nederlands bloed en liefde voor dit land heb dan jij.
Tuurlijk jongen. Jijb staat er met een vlag en een mening wanneer het op je land aankomt, en ik niet. Of wacht...
Je bent net zo goed als een marokkaan. Sterf toch leker, landverrader.
>>55274589
>most info here that the pegida extremists post also only is hearsay or at best anecdotal.
Dutch: 67 per 100,00 crimes. Moroccans: 469 per 100,000 crimes. Facts? Not for lefties.
>>55274589
It seems their best efforts don't count for much.
http://www.cbs.nl/nl-NL/menu/themas/dossiers/allochtonen/publicaties/artikelen/archief/2015/zeven-van-de-tien-somaliers-in-de-bijstand.html
>>55274661
It is incomprehensible to me.
>>55274710
Look at my post above yours. Labour participation for non-EU immigrants in Belgium is under 40%. For women it's 26%! I wonder why? Could it be all the muslim women who aren't allowed to work? Face the facts, liberal. Where is your evidence?
>>55274670
being immigrant --> difficulty integrating already because speaking other language with parents and family --> no having educated parents, have to figure out everything yourself --> racist belgian employers
etc etc
your data can easily be interpreted that we dont do enough to lift the immigrants up.
>>55274636
You have to disclose public info, duh. Give "her" name.
>55274710
>No on I know IRL wants to be associated with such extremists in any way
Lefitst scum associating with lefitst scum? No way!
>>55274580
Artificial? The groups exist already or there'd be nothing to divide them by. Arbitrary? A culture, common heritage and language aren't arbitrary at all. Irrational? In the next sentence you call it the only hope for survival.
>>55274710
>absurd racist claims
>absurd
fucking lel, i cannot in stats and reality, you live in a socialist fairy tale dude. fact is that third worlders are a fucking heavy burden on our continent. "multiculturalism" has failed everywhere in history.
>No on I know IRL wants to be associated with such extremists in any way
>extremists
this is what i mean, you don't think for yourself, journalists, ceo's and politicians do it for you, you just parrot.
>>55274833
its useless. even if I would give her name (which i wont) I dont think you will find her online as teacher.
>>55274820
It is not the responsibility of the host population to accomodate foreigners. It's the responsibility of the immigrant to integrate. The data shows the reality: they don't WANT to integrate. They WANT to live in their little ghettos, going to their own arabic shop and living in their own arabic community.
Despite positive discrimination and affirmative action, they still won't integrate or work. You are delusional if you blame this on us.
>>55274820
So basically, youre saying they are useless and cant work here? Agreed! So they can fuck off back home then.
We dont need their suicidy Islam here.
>>55274798
vid related, dude is in jail now "terrorist recruiter"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OyoCDnqbg8
>It is incomprehensible to me.
how you can thank the likes of people like him>>55274710
>>55261909
what /pol/tard and the PEGIDA retards faild to understand is that political movement based on hatered are doomed to failure.
this would've worked in the 30s but after WW2 that ship has definitely sailed.
instead of promoting your tradition and culture you guys chose to run right into a brick wall, no one will fallow you.
but you're too dumb to get it
>>55274762
ongebasseerde asumpties: de post
Ik schaam mij ervoor dat jij jezelf Nederlander noemt.
>>55274914
>I dont think you will find her online as teacher.
Considering every single one of my University teachers is online, as is every Uni teacher in the Netherlands, you're either lying or retarded you fucking immigrant.
>>55274589
>statistics have to take into account the bigger struggle newcomers have to fit in.
Nope, the receiving end is in no obligation to accept you, you either accept or leave. You can ease their integration sure, but if statistics ultimately prove that immigration and multiculturalism have a bad cost/benefit, the receiving group shouldn't bother integrating large groups.
Also, if "newcomers" have to fit in it's not truly multiculturalism. Multiculturalism isn't really obtainable, one could argue the US is a multicultural country, but it's clear that some cultures clearly dominate others.
>>55274820
>being immigrant --> difficulty integrating already because speaking other language with parents and family --> no having educated parents, have to figure out everything yourself --> racist belgian employers
yet somehow east euro's manage to do fine, and contribute to the economy, funny how that works
>>55274977
ok lemme check
>>55265492
Ja dat ben ik haha
>>55274914
molenbeek zei ge ? TSO richting, chemie gestudeerd en vrouwelijk. deze ga ik zoeken ... eens kijke als ik online iets vind
>>55274960
AUB Achmed. Jij, Nederlands? Misschien wanneer je voor volk en vaderland opkomt in plaats van te deseteren zoals vandaag.
Jij hebt geen nederlands bloed. Je durft er nog voor te vechten, nog te sterven. We hangen jou op aan de galgen naast de marokkanen, landverrader.
>>55274984
For the sake of clarity, "you" in my post isn't directly referring to you, but rather to a newcomer.
BASED.
I heard there was a similar organization (or maybe even the same one as PEGIDA) in the Netherlands years ago, and there was this big stink over the fact that they even showed their faces in public.
If the police are arresting the leftists and not you, then that might mean the winds are shifting, right?
As long as the police are not going to step in to be puppets of the neo-commie government, then all you need to do is get exposure, stay disciplined, keep projecting that respectable image and invite, actively, like-minded people to meet up with you, and it doesn't even have to be dramatic!
PEGIDA started out as nothing but a weekly night vigil, and when they realized they had the numbers of a small army they realized they didn't need to persuade themselves to be cowards anymore.
>>55274984
You are very right. I wouldn't call the US multicultural. They had less of a social security net than Europe which meant that every newcomer was pretty much forced to integrate in order to find a job and be able to survive. It would call it forced economic integration, and it's a good thing.
>>55274747
Your view of history is rather simple. True tribalism does not go beyond village and family level. Before nationalism came along in the late 18th and early 19th century, the only attachment common people had was to their family, their village, and their patrons, and they couldn't care less what lord lorded over them, and what nation they were part of.
Then the French revolution proved the power of mass mobilization through teaching the common people to be nationalist, and suddenly everyone had to get on the nationalism train. Either the nation adopts nationalism, or it perishes.
But their is nothing organic about it, it was merely a (necessary) elite invention. A powerful meme.
>>55274959
>based on hatered are doomed to failure.
like the nazi's and the commies ?
Ik heb lekker een potje zitten rukken en daarna Resident Evil 4 gespeelt, ook een overheerlijke appeltaart gebakken en daarna naar de kerk.
Zo te zien was Pegida echt een nog hardere faal dan de vorige keer?
Alsof jullie ook maar iets hebben verandert vandaag behalve de media jullie laten afbeelden als extremisten.
>>55274959
>what /pol/tard and the PEGIDA retards faild to understand is that political movement based on hatered are doomed to failure.
That's bad news for the muslims, then.
>>55274977
>
its an high school in Molenbook.. they arent organized
>>55274956
People like him are costing the sensible people dearly. I can't watch anymore of those videos though, it's boiling over.
>>55275168
Why don't you reply to the actual numbers and statistics instead?
Oh, right, you're ignoring them because they disrupt your fantasy world. Gotcha.
>>55262461
>KAMPF DEN DU SCHWULER!
Does this read "fight then you faggot!"??
>>55275168
>they arent organized
color me surprised, must deliver great quality students...
>>55274820
Good luck doing more for them if 200000 arrive per year, like in Sweden. Just housing alone will swamp us. That's a Ghent sized city full of unemployable eaters a year. And the supply of such people is nearly unlimited.
This is madness.
>>55275090
sorry anderlecht, deze school:
http://www.iprovidence.be/
waarom boeit dit je zo?
>>55275125
>the only attachment common people had was to their family, their village, and their patrons, and they couldn't care less what lord lorded over them, and what nation they were part of.
As a historian, I'd like to call you an uninformed retard, but actually, rather, I'd like you to ask you to provide a source to prove any of that.
People have always, always, acted in a tribal context. Nations would never even have emerged otherwise. you're repeating a common leftist fallacy, no more.
>>55275260
sorry am busy with other things, cant be bothered
>>55275209
if it makes you feel better socialist and greens barely have 15 % of the votes (in based flanders at least), right wing nationalist are biggest party and are doing damage control with the current immigrant crisis. i still think flanders is in these regards better of than the netherlands
>>55275368
At least I know you're a troll now.
Godverdomse West-Vlaamse boeren.
>>55275144
you have selective reading i see.
>>55275152
well, islam has been a failure for the at least 300 years.
i don't see it getting any better.
>>55275334
>waarom boeit dit je zo?
95% kans da ge liegt.
>>55275147
Bek houden, NEET. Je hebt spreekrecht als je belastingbetaald.
>>55275280
Jawohl.
>>55275368
>sorry am busy with other things, cant be bothered
cognitive dissonance, the post
>>55275424
no really i cant be bothered.
>>55275430
>you have selective reading i see.
there where no commie or facist revolutions after WWII? also end of history fallacy
>>55275100
Ik vraag mijzelf oprecht af waar je vandaan haalt dat ik van arabische afkomst bem? Maar dat terzijde, ben jij die overgewichtige manknul in het lelijke pak of de second-in-command ginger?
>>55275482
No really, I know you're a troll now.
I keep getting cactus captchas.
>>55275459
>Jawohl.
Lol at the dutch language. If you speak english and a bit of german you can normally work out the general idea of what is being said.
It's like english and german put into a blender then gettting a retard to do the spelling.
>>55274877
It is purely arbitrary. See the formation of Italy or Germany - nations that had never existed, and the states that became part of them were purely determined on geopolitical accident - which is why we had a few wars to iron out the borders.
Same for Scandinavia. Swedes, Danes and Norwegians are not separate nationalities because of some inherent natural law, some Swedish or Danish, ... essence - no, it's all just accidents of history that solidify and become real. Crush a rebellion here, marry a different queen there, and suddenly there would not exist a Norwegian nationalism.
>>55274959
Fuck off, subhuman algerian muslim dog.
Untermenschen like you should be exterminated. And will be soon enough.
>>55275482
Then why even come to an argument based forum you complete fucking retard.
>>55275546
In het pak
>overgewicht
slechte foto. Ik til nog altijd 10x meer dan jij, fucking dyel.
En als je een niet rechtse deserteur ben, dan ben je per definitie niet nederlands, dus een arabier. Van daar.
>>55273582
>immigrants are structurally worse off in our countries
>our country is structurally build for people like us
Implying Belgium shouldn't be Belgian (Flemish or Vallonian, dunno wtf u guys prefer) and the country should adapt to immigrants, not the other way around?
You a mad kek.
>>55275125
>True tribalism does not go beyond village and family level
Maybe your "true" tribalism doesn't, but in practice it very much did. Germanics and Gauls both united against a foreign Roman invader, it was their culture and heritage that brought them together, despite their previous tribal wars. This same thing happened with the natives in the US, the Arabs in the Ottoman Empire, who saw WW1 as an opportunity to regain their self governance.
Nationalism isn't invented, it's born when an identity faces a common threat. Nationalism is created from the outside.
>>55275592
>It's like english and german put into a blender then gettting a retard to do the spelling.
lel, this.
>>55275661
>See the formation of Italy or Germany - nations that had never existed
But with, ya know, a common language, culture and attitude. Not that that matters. Clearly, all that matters is borders.
>>55275667
calm down Azis, no one cares about you
>>55275661
>It is purely arbitrary. See the formation of Italy or Germany - nations that had never existed, and the states that became part of them were purely determined on geopolitical accident
are you retarded ? states have never existed ?
go tell that the people in former joegoslavia, south sudan, former soviet republics... ect. go tell people that their culture, people, language and traditions are a fiction to be discarded
>>55275661
Yeah,patterns of reproducion that existed for hundreds, sometimes thousands of years are 'artificail'. Also, we are all the same, and there is no difference between a subhuman nigger and a Norwegian.
Fuck off, leftist cunt. Scum like you should be left to hang with their guts stretching from their ripped abdominals.
>>55261909
>there was a clear attitude of dislike from the police towards us
Dutch cops are cücks, they couldn't beat British cops in terms of cückoldry, though.
>>55274959
You're mostly right.
Ideological movement cannot only be negative but have to promote something of their own.
It's not nearly enough to be anti-islam. You have to be pro-something that will lead you, by extension, to be anti-islam.
You sound like one of those moderate muslim or not a muslim at all.
>>55275587
>>55275796
But we care about pedophile subhuman sandniggers. To the extend needed to exterminate them, that is.
>>55273123
IT'S 2015
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>>55273852
How is that not an objective opinion? Mate, you live in one of the Belgian cities with 90%+ White population, just because you take the occasional trip to Brussel doesn't make you an expert on racial matters.
When not only Belgium, but all of Western Europe is 50% or more Islamic, it will be nothing but the worst cases.
>>55275125
This might have been true during feudalism (which is a system that society regressed towards thanks to Islamic invasions in Southern Europe and the Meditterenean, by the way), but it certainly wasn't true during say, the Roman times, or before that the Greek city-states. And the shared religion of Catholicism certainly replaced nationalism as a bonding cultural factor. Even then, people preferred fellow Catholics as neighbours than Pagan Slavs or Moorish Muslims.
Even though the concept of the nation is relatively recent, patriotism and dedication to proto-nations certainly isn't. Are you telling me that the Franks did not care for their fellow Franks and their king Charles Martel when they defeated the Muslims at Tours? That there was no zeal in the Reconquista of Iberia? Or that the Polish did not feel pride and dedication towards their Polish culture and heritage when they smashed the Ottomans at Vienna?
>>55275661
Just because something is arbitrary does not mean it is without meaning or use. That's not what that means.
>>55275718
Noem het hoe je wilt, maar die knoop die bijna de vergetelheid inspringt en het gebrek aan gezichtsdefinitie schreeuwt obesitas.
Ps
>2015
>nog steeds aan het archaïsche links-rechts paradigma vasthouden
Alsjeblieft jij bent precies wat mis is met 'rechts' Nederland, een pak van de V&D veranderd dat niet.
>>55275459
>NEET
Ik proef projectie
En ik hoef niet te werken, ik bezit een bedrijf, moslimpjes laten me allemaal koud want die bereiken dit niveau toch niet.
Wat vonden de socialistjes van je stoere bomberjack?
Nog lekker gevochten?
En nog wat uitgehaalt vandaag behalve
>>55275718
Niet zo boos Dik Trom
>>55275587
>>55275868
care to offer apologies?
>>55275320
An immigrant that doesn't work(80% of healthy somalian immigrants of working age do not) ends up costing us on average 14 million SEK.
Ignoring processing costs and practically everything else, assuming 50% end up not working(optimistic) this year's batch will cost us 1.4 trillion SEK, nearly a third of our total GDP.
>>55275835
not muslim, just trying to point out the obvious
>>55275879
i would be hurt if you were relevant
>>55275868
What does this have to do with me? I was the guy saying you should respond to my facts, not the guy who kept asking about your friend that works in Brussels.
Or is this part of an elaborate ruse to troll me further? Joke's on your, farmer boy, I'm going to take a shower and go to bed :^)
>>55274710
>Pegida
>extremist
Dude, /Pol/ memes aside, Pegida is against violence, islam, nazism, facism etc. How is this extremism?
>>55275345
Nations emerge because of economies of scale. There never was a "Dutch" tribe, only a territory that happened to become a united entity, which was then retroactively made Dutch.
Take language. Dutch was not the language of all people that would become the Dutch, it was a dialect of a region that was first written down and systematized, then pushed on all the inhabitants of the Netherlands. Some other languages survive, but only just barely, and only after going through their own mini-nationalism revival.
Same for French in France (but much worse), English in England (it almost killed Welsh).
>>55275964
Ik weeg 110kg tegen 1.96m en ik kan makkelijk 2plate benchen en 3plate squatten. Lul lekker verder uit je nek, slapeling. Gezien je niet tilt, zal ik dat maar voor je verduidelijken: 100kg bench en 140kg squat. Slape lul.
>>55275969
>ik hoef niet te werken, ik bezit een bedrijf, moslimpjes laten me allemaal koud want die bereiken dit niveau toch niet.
Turken wel.
>>55276030
May there be more like you in Algeria.
Here, have some chill music :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQxVTFVWNjA
>>55275790
Lots of different languages retroactively called dialects and exterminated by the dominant language used to unify the nation. First came the borders.
>>55275809
The cops in Australia have been photographed high fiving our right wing protesters.
I was always 'felt' (because i can't prove it) that the cops here were kind of working class with center right wing sentiments. Pretty normal people outside of the job.
>>55276166
>May there be more like you in Algeria.
that may take a while
but thanks
>>55276085
I see no sources, zero (0). Care to cite anything of any value, belg homo? Cite a scientific study proving even the slightest point you're making or fuck off.
Make a claim, back it.
>>55276128
>not doing deadlifts
>>55275334
lel
http://www.lacapitale.be/1195535/article/2015-01-22/anderlecht-un-professeur-de-l-institut-de-la-providence-passe-a-tabac
>>55275798
Calm down, Turkish friend. It says arbitrary. Arbitrary division + time = hard reality.
>>55276298
I deadlift 4.5plate. Course I do the big 4.
>>55274344
why?
>>55276128
Je draagt zoveel gewicht mee en je probeert met die stats op te scheppen? Teleurstellend hoor. Het feit dat je zo indringend probeert je postuur te valideren spreekt al boekdelen.
Alsjeblieft leer minder assertief te zijn en probeer te denken voor je doet/post
>>55276128
Mooi voor ze toch, ga jij er dood van?
>100kg bench en 140kg squat. Slape lul.
>Die kontpijn
100 kilo taartjes en 140 kilo cake?
Je ziet er uit als Emile Roemer met nog meer autisme, heeft je moeder dat pak uitgezocht van je uitkeringsgeld?
Guise! Ive been trolling you all!! IT was a lot of fun, but im a nazi too ;)
Have a good night and keep fighting the good fight!
>>55276085
>Dutch
>united entity
Bruh, we were an extreme federation at first, every gewest had it's own import an export tariffs, we revolted against the Spanish because we had a common identity (part of which included protestantism tbf). The taxes levied here were the same as in the rest of the Spanish empire, yet only this set of Gewesten decided to revolt, Belgium was almost a part of that until the inquisition.
The dutch language is just a matter of formalization.
>>55276240
I'm always wondering how we could help subvert Islam and destroy it.
Would a flood of simple, anonymous pamphlet work?
I'm always wondering. Something like what the french materialist were doing against christianity.
>>55276511
Good night, farmer boy. The Lion of Flanders will rise again!
>>55276404
Ja, ja. Ik ren 6km in 20min. Ik til boven de 1/2/3/4/. Maar beledig de 10kg of zo die ik te zwaar ben vooral. Ik kan 4 van jou aan elkaar rijgen en overhead drukken.
>probeer minder assertief te zijn
Als ik iemand zou vragen "scrijf een zo onnederlands mogelijke post" dan zou het dit wel zijn. Totaal gebrek aan ambitie.
>>55276588
we just have to wit till the time is right
>>55276511
truly ebin
was getting suspicious with >>55273852 tbqh
>>55275955
>the Franks
>the Polish
You mean the warrior elite involved in these struggles (less so for the Poles because already closer to emergent nations). The Franks might have had a communal feeling, but they were not a nation as we know them, only a small group of warriors, some tens of thousands. Nationalism involves the entire population of a territory, and for say the Frankish empire, the struggles of the Franks would not have registered to the peoples of the villages in the empire beyond those directly affected by marauding armies (and they would just want the armies gone). They would have objected to the new religion, though.
>>55276456
>uitkeringsgeld
Sir, I take offense! I work for a living.
Niet dat jij ooit in dienst bent geweest om die grap te begrijpen.
>>55276653
>>55276588
my engineering friend teaching in Anderlecht really exists tho.
I dont hide my opinions tho, so its fun poking holes in her convictions
>>55276605
Laat die loser maar. Hij kan alleen persoonlijke aanvallen posten omdat zijn socialistische levensvisie geen basis heeft in de realiteit.
>>55275661
>Same for Scandinavia. Swedes, Danes and Norwegians
Danish is unintelligible. It's a completely different language. We're not the same, we never were. We were close enough to trade and make war, not for widespread travel, necessary for a common culture.
For fuck sake Sweden is still divided into Svealand and Götaland. Despite both Svealand and Götaland being refered to as "Svea rike" since 1160, damn near a thousand fucking years ago, and having widespread travel available for ages. It still doesn't take a fucking minute to hear where someone's from. 855 years after unification. 34 generations later it's still there, how's that arbitrary?
P.S. Svear=bögar.
>>55276128
meest trieste post ooit
ga alsjeblieft weg
slape lul
>>55276726
Is she cute? I'm 23 and I live right next to Anderlecht. I'm sure I could change her opinion.
>>55276818
your doxing skills disappoint me. the info i gave should be enough. she is cute yes
>>55276771
>>55275661
Oh, and as for how isolated Sweden and Norway were from each other, and for how long, DNA tests can tell them apart with 90% certainty.
>>55276605
Je schept op over dat je de enige kaalgeslagen bleekscheet bent tussen een groepje speciale sneeuwvlokjes over de niet-bestaande verandering die jullie 'protest' teweeg heeft gebracht. Vervolgens ga je verder door iedereen, Nederlander of niet, die het niet met je eens is te beledigen. En als slagroom op de politieke millshake, die je eens zou moeten laten staan, ga je wanhopig je voorkomen verdedigen door je E-penis op te zetten en je wel of niet bestaande sportprestaties te plaatsen.
Alsjeblieft, je komt over of je niet de vaardigheid bezit om kritisch naar jezelf te kijken. Praat gerust verder over hoe je zo begaan bent met Nederland, maar doe ons een plezier en raak de politiek nog niet met een stok van twintig meter aan.
>>55276805
Vindt een baan, hippie.
>>55276882
>your doxing skills disappoint me
>>55276818
http://www.enseignement.be
>>55277017
>vindt een baan
vmbo nederlands aub
>>55277042
how does this help more than google?
>>55276569
>just a matter of formalization
You mean extermination. West Flemish, the true "dialect", could well be a different language if they had been their own polity, but they had the misfortune of being grouped with other Flemings, who got grouped with the Dutch, and now what they teach in school is some Brabant dialect. Heritage my ass.
>>55277132
well you know the school, gender, and credentials, +-age, plus it's an intern database, so that seriously narrows it down, compared to google
Ik heb nog nooit zoveel AFA in een draad gezien. Ze zien er allemaal uit als plaatje gerelateerd.
>>55277132
>how does this help more than google?
ik wil btw niet doxen ma zet z'n info niet op internet
>>55276701
>small group of warriors
>some tens of thousands
From how many different villages? With how many mothers, fathers, sisters and brothers? Bound together by what "arbitrary" traits?
>>55276954
Meneer, u projecteert harder dan een camera. Ik schep over niets op, maar ga in de verdediging wanneer aangevallen.
Iedereen die het niet met me eens is (dus links) is overigens minderwaardig en bijna niet eens een mens.
Ik heb niks gezegd over mijn voorkomen tot een flikker die niet eens 100kg kan deadliften mij dik noemde. Nou ja, als een /fit/izen neem ik dat dus niet.
Ik ben overigens op TV en in de krant geweest over "politiek". Maar maak je niet druk, zwakke anonieme 4chan poster die het lef nog niet eens heeft voor een protest, ik blijf buiten de politiek tot mijn 35ste.
>>55277223
I could phone them up and probably get her name. But she's probably sleeping with 5 niggers at once, so forget about it.
>>55276771
I'm not saying it's not different now, go check back if you want, but was that difference inevitable? If the king of the Danes conquers and holds Sweden, then some centuries later the enlightened administration pushes Danish on the Swedes and terms all Swedish languages mere dialects - well then that's all she wrote for Swedish.
>>55277285
>I could phone them up and probably get her name.
don't dox her dude, even if she is a coalburner.
she will get what is coming to her in the end, trust me on that one. have known naive girls like that before.
>>55275459
>belasting betalen
Voor wat? Voor Mohammed en zijn twaalf kinderen? Voor de NPO die iedereen van jong tot oud een chronische zelfhaat aanpraat? Voor een onderwijsprogramma wat enkel bestaat om je kinderen gek te maken. Dat je zelfvoorzienend wil zijn en financieel enigszins sterk wil staan is prima. Maar om zoals jou trots te zijn op het betalen van belasting is het meeste kansloze wat een mens nu nog kan doen.
Hoe eerder deze verzorgingsstaat instort hoe beter, en hoe meer NOOTen de staatskas leegzuigen, hoe sneller dit zal gaan.
Interesting. Thread topic goes on a bit, then some troll derails thread and starts a "merit of nationalism" debate.
Then you have to go on the defensive and justify yourselves to him, and the topic is forgotten. And you never learn.
>>55277156
Why so mad? West-Flemish nationalists got rekt by pan-Dutch nationalists, that's how it goes with nationalism.
>>55277241
This. You sound like a bro. Why weren't you with us today?
>>55277395
would be a shame. She is perfect /pol/ wife at the moment. Perfect health (/fit/), wanting to stay at home caretaker, good cook, virgin (yes srsly) and christian.
>>55277395
Don't worry, friend. I will not dox your female friend. I've got my eye on the cute girl at the local bakery anyway. She has wide birthing hips.
>>55277411
americlap 30 % is in dutch, how can you make an thread analyses like that ?
>>55277411
There isn't really a topic, so it was bound to happen.
>>55277459
Very damn good question to every dutchman in this thread.
Hebben jullie er nou zin aan, of niet?
>>55277485
Good luck with the baker girl, somehow sounds like a wise choice
>>55277279
>'u projecteert'
>vervolgt zijn post door enkel te projecteren
God sta ons bij
>>55276725
>In dienst
Je bedoelt het Amerikaanse zijleger met schoenenlik dienst 24/7.
Ik heb wel wat beters te doen dan dat.
>>55277265
Feudal loyalties, at that point. The descendants of the army of Clovis who took up residence in the forts and towers and villa's of post-Roman Gaul, and who muster when the king calls on them. Not because they are Franks, but because they inherited from their father or grandfather an obligation to the king.
>>55277462
>would be a shame. She is perfect /pol/ wife at the moment. Perfect health (/fit/), wanting to stay at home caretaker, good cook, virgin (yes srsly) and christian.
wut ? wasn't it the total opposite ?>>55274349
>>55277586
God zal u niet helpen, beste ketter.
U bent fysiek zwak, en voor de rest adreseerde ik alleen gemaakte punten. Dus beantwoord die maar lekker, of tieft eens lekker op.
WAT EEN KANKERDRAAD OVERAL SOCIALISTEN EN MENSEN DIE ZICH GEDRAGEN ALSOF ZE VIER ZIJN
KANKER TOCH OP
PEGIDA DOET TIEN KEER MEER DAN EEN VAN JULLIE NEKBAARDEN
>>55277624
no she tries to be a good christian and do good to the community --> be a teacher in the schools that need her the most.
But she's just waiting for the right guy to come save her.
>>55277485
>Don't worry, friend. I will not dox your female friend
it's not my friend ... I don't even know this bitch. it say to you not to dox her because you live in the same country as her, as such it can backfire. i only screw people over online>>IRL if they live on the otherside of the planet
>>55277459
Omdat ik een Marokkaan ben.
Ik zou graag willen verhuizen naar Marokko maar heb daar het geld er niet voor. Het zal me waarschijnlijk ook nooit lukken om genoeg geld daarvoor te hebben.
>>55277441
That's my point exactly. They were made Flemmings (which is just Belgian Dutch tbqh). The people of France were made French, etc.
It is real, very real, at this point, but not because of some mythic Dutch essence that the people of W-Flanders always possessed.
>>55277760
kun je daar geen staatssteun voor aanvragen?
>>55277700
DIT GODVERDEKANKERJEZUS.
Maar waarom was jij er niet bij dan?
>>55277156
Also, formalization happened about 200 years later. Every gewest was allowed its own dialect or language, e.g. Frisian, Dutch just came to dominate over many years (like English now and not because of nationalism). It was the French that made the Netherlands a single state, causing us to get 1 central language.
>>55277718
>no she tries to be a good christian and do good to the community --> be a teacher in the schools that need her the most.
poor child.
>But she's just waiting for the right guy to come save her.
you perhaps
>>55277411
To be fair we did discuss the whole demonstration like OP and I intended so. You just wait until Hillary gets power and 5% of your population are anoying muslims.
>>55277396
Je hebt een punt, belasting gaat naar veel onnodige dingen. Maae hoe kun je ooit van je land houden/een visie hebben voor je land, als je niet eens bijdraagt aan het land?
>>55277815
OMDAT IK IN NOORD-BRABANT WOON
ik wacht wel tot ze naar eindhoven komen
>>55277760
>Het zal me waarschijnlijk ook nooit lukken om genoeg geld daarvoor te hebben.
leven in nederland is duurder dan in marroko, waar zevert ge over...
also, power to you, uw vaderland heeft u nodig !
