Multiple studies repeatedly confirm confirm conservatives have a lower IQ on average than liberals. The dumbest of them are "very conservative" with the "very liberal" being one of the smartest.
What gives?
https://reason.com/archives/2014/06/13/are-conservatives-dumber-than-liberals
The difference is Conservatives aren't consistently trying to destroy the moral fabric of the country and promoting spreading your ass cheeks for Ahmed.
>reason.com
dohoho
>>55259277
This is only in America
Copy pasta
>Maybe in the United States, and only because there "liberalism" is codeword for "ideology followed by urban dwellers" and "conservatism" for "ideology followed by rural hicks".
>In the rest of the world, things are more complicated, as it can easily be seen by analysing the ruling political parties of the countries with the highest IQ.
http://www.statisticbrain.com/countries-with-the-highest-lowest-average-iq/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ruling_political_parties_by_country
1. Hong Kong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Alliance_for_the_Betterment_and_Progress_of_Hong_Kong
>Political position: Centre to centre-right
2. South Korea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saenuri_Party
>Political position: Centre-right to Right-wing
3. Japan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democratic_Party_(Japan)
>Political position: Centre-right to Right-wing
4. Taiwan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuomintang
>Political position: Centre-right to Right-wing
5. Singapore
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Action_Party
>Political position: Centre-right
6. Austria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austrian_People%27s_Party
>Political position: Centre-right
6. Germany
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Union_of_Germany
>Political position: Centre-right
6. Italy
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_(Italy)
>Political position: Centre-left
6. Netherlands
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Freedom_and_Democracy
>Political position: Centre-right
10. Sweden
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_Social_Democratic_Party
>Political position: Centre-left
10. Switzerland
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_People%27s_Party_of_Switzerland
>Political position: Centre-right
Only Italy and Sweden have left-wing governments, really, you would believe that, with such high IQs, these countries would be communists right now, but this is not what's happening
>>55259433
>Let's see the bottom IQs, just for the sake of it.
1. Equatorial Guinea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Party_of_Equatorial_Guinea
>Political position: Right-wing
2. Ethiopia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethiopian_People%27s_Revolutionary_Democratic_Front
>Political position: Left-wing
3. Sierra leone
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_People%27s_Congress
>Political position: Centre-left
4. Democratic Republic of the Congo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Party_for_Reconstruction_and_Democracy
>Political position: Centre-left
5. Zimbabwe
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZANU%E2%80%93PF
>Political position: Left-wing
5. Guinea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rally_of_the_Guinean_People
As a member of the Socialist International, it is likely left-wing
7. Nigeria
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Progressives_Congress
As a member of the Socialist International, it is likely left-wing
8. Ghana
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Democratic_Congress_(Ghana)
>Political position: Centre-left
9. Tanzania
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chama_Cha_Mapinduzi
>Political position: Centre-left
9. Sudan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Congress_(Sudan)
>Political position: Right-wing
>So here we have the opposite, out of 10 countries with the lowest IQ, 8 have left-wing governments
Old pasta but there you go
It makes sense when you get this perspective
>>55259277
"studies" made by liberals.
kek
>>55259277
>"Well, the trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so.”
this is none of my buissness but you recognize the average uneducated redneck hillbilly type as a conservative, which sort of lowers the average for all conservatives but refuse to recognize niggers/gangbanger thug type as liberal. not so fair.
>>55259277
im liberal in many ways but im still relatively conservative and I hate the establishment but hate democrats more and would rather vote republican if cornered for establishment candidates.
>>55259277
Are niggers dumber than whites?
>>55259277
>Multiple studies repeatedly confirm confirm conservatives have a lower IQ on average than liberals.
WEll, this is a LIE.
The results of a study just released last week concluded just the opposite.
>>55259277
IQ is being accepted by liberals now?
Didn't they always claim it's irrelevant?
>>55259277
Because niggers dont identify themselves as very liberal
A "study" also proved more liberals were uneducated about basic science than conservatives and that self-described Tea Party members were more intelligent than liberal democrats.
WHERE ARE YOUR STUDIES NOW?
>>55259808
same tbqh senpai
>>55259277
>the democratic party is literally 50% minorities the least educated demographic in america
>hurrrr repubs iz stoopid
every time
I bet a libtard conducted this study to only harass conservatives to make republican candidates seem less credible and swing libtard election. go back to tumblr, libtard!
>>55259906
Only when applied negatively to themselves.
>>55259277
liberalism attracts pseudo-intellectuals, the kind of people who think they know whats best for everyone else. The kind of people whose knowledge in one field makes them think they are knowledgeable in all fields - for example, an engineering student who thinks he knows how economies work.
It's not all their fault, though, since they are highly indoctrinated into their belief system and they never really learned to question it. These are the kinds of people that can be easily manipulated into supporting counterproductive programs, like social welfare, because they only look at the ideology behind them and not the actual real world outcomes.
Their lack of knowledge and superficial interest in politics, economics, or foreign policy means they only care about the good intentions behind neo-liberalism and never the outcomes. They are useful idiots.
that's not to say that conservatives are equally manipulable, but many conservatives are not college educated and thus have never been indoctrinated into neo-liberal fallacies. With conservatives you have a wide range of both the religiously devout, non educated who rightly do not believe in faulty liberal beliefs, and the highly educated who can see past the indoctrination. the intellectual conservative can destroy the liberal 9 times out of 10 in debates because they were wise enough to see through the flaws and to actually form their own belief systems. They understand the outcomes of the progressive ideology as far as its effects on the economy and on the stability of the country.
tl;dr:
liberals are mostly individuals with slightly above average iq who are useful idiots that are easily indoctrinated into faulty ideologies because they think they are intellectuals yet they do not actually understand anything, and have little real world experience.
Conservatives run the gambit of poorly educated peoples who simply appreciate freedom and being left alone, and highly educated peoples.
>>55259999
quads tell the truth
>>55259808
Same
>>55259277
> liberals write a test
> liberals do better on the test
> conservatives are dumb
Good old liberal logic.
>>55259277
>>55261750
.> higher in post grad
Not unexpected. Women's studies won't get you a job, but a PhD in women's studies might make you a professor.
when you're really dumb you're conservative because you can't imagine anything else. when you're smarter you're liberal because you think you know what's best and your brain is full of all these abstract ideas. when you're really smart you become conservative again because you realize those ideas were outside of the laws of causality, and were just intellectual cleverness. if you become even smarter you realize conservatism is just another stupidity obsessing over "should", and you now realize with experience there is only quantity and not quality. at this point you become the ubermensch, with one foot in death and one in life; reality is seen as illusion and only one's own representation. thus one lives a life without appeal, like sysphys pushing his rock up the hill forever, instead of complaining he rebels against this hellish facade he finds himself in, and makes it his in transcendental bliss, smiling as he walks down the hill to push the rock up again, and forever.
>>55261837
yup. the conservatives found jobs, while the liberals went back into academia for a second dose of the blue pill.
>>55261422
a good example of this problem is how you have some highly intelligent 19-22 year olds in college who consider themselves communists after reading Marx. These people have very high IQs, and low IQ people will almost never fall prey to marxist ideology.
Does this make communism correct? obviously not. As people age and actually gain real world experience, they almost invariably fall out of their childish, idealist beliefs.
I do believe that IQ is important, but thats not to say intelligent people cannot be manipulated. on the contrary it is almost easier to manipulate them.
This is just one of those cases where real world experience is more important than raw intelligence.
Shit, just look at Noam Chomsky, arguably one of the smartest people alive, and all of his retarded beliefs.
He is a perfect example of how an expert in one field (linguistics) can believe themselves to be an expert in other, non-related fields, like economics.
>>55259451
1. Equatorial Guinea
>black
2. Ethiopia
>black
3. Sierra leone
>black
4. Democratic Republic of the Congo
>black
5. Zimbabwe
>black
5. Guinea
>black
7. Nigeria
>black
8. Ghana
>black
9. Tanzania
>black
9. Sudan
>black
>blacks and mexicans and tumblr voting liberal
>higher iq than a group of people stereotyped as rich white business owners
>implying this isnt a jewish marxist scam
>>55261422
>never been indoctrinated by neo-liberal fallacies
this is true, but only because they were indoctrinated into christianity instead.
>>55261422
Hi Thomas Sowell
>>55259277
So the entire counter argument in this thread is summed up by people who scream IT'S DA JOOOOOZZZ!!!, people who didn't read the study provided and/or don't know how studies work, people who think we're talking about other countries when the study pertained to United States, and people pulling anecdotal speculative bullshit out of their ass. What's worse, is they'll think I'm a liberal too because I'm playing devils advocate.
Not sure what I expected posting in /pol/ to be honest.
>iq differences between blacks and whites are meaningless, you bigot
>top kek conservatives have lower iqs than liberals
liberal logic
>>55261422
The love of theory is the root of all evil.
because conservatives are fucking uneducated idiots.
liberals are objectively smarter but most of them are horribly misguided.
center libertarians are the smartest and thus forever a minority
>4chan used to be extremely liberal
>now it's a conservative haven that worships Breitbart
What happened?
>>55262365
liberals became pussies that cant handle the banter and left.
the rest became libertarians
>>55262365
>4chan used to be extremely liberal
it wasn't. but what happened was SJWs.
here we love to be edgy and we love to "abuse" freedom of speech, as it was meant to be "abused."
it has always been this way. now that SJWs took over the left it's only natural that we shift towards the right, to preserve our right to shitpost.
>>55262527
that's interesting. so 4chan is like the BDSM for language. because society is so repressive of people's thoughts, people go on 4chan and let out all their most extreme thoughts. a healthy mechanism for the pressure that society creates
>>55259433
I can confirm that there is literally no distinction between left wing and right wing in Italy. We had right wing governments push for big gov. and leftists oppose them and vice versa. It literally means nothing except on paper. A lot of politicians just jump ships from left wing parties to right wing parties with no rhyme or reason.
>>55261931
IQ is just a number m8, I tested at 133 at an actual psychologist, and I am conservative as fuck. I also am ignorant about a vast majority of academia, as I never went to school. You can be smart with a low IQ and dumb with a high IQ, it is all what you make of it.
That said, college is basically a place you pay money to have a singular ideology forced on you and get a piece of paper saying you paid your money and said the right things to professors.
All my cousins went to college and are absolute idiots still, but thats what happens when you get degrees in environmental communications, and musical theory.
>>55259277
>>55259433
I can confirm that there is literally no distinction between left wing and right wing in Italy. We had right wing governments push for big gov. and leftists oppose them and vice versa. It literally means nothing except on paper. A lot of politicians just jump ships from left wing parties to right wing parties with no rhyme or reason.
>>55262198
Pic related, a couple of liberal voters. I am sure they are smarter than me.
>>55259277
Dumbfuckistan seems to be getting bigger from previous iterations of this picture.
>>55262885
appeal to autism
>>55262885
If you wanted an actual discussion you should've gone somewhere other than /pol/.
>>55262954
BTFO
>>55262721
I can confirm it's the same in the US.
>>55262885
Autism.
>>55263012
I am saving this.
Actually the men with thr highest IQS are libertarian
>>55262885
lol look at this faggot squirm
>>55263012
pics like this really make me wonder if /pol is maybe onto something
>>55263154
>>55263154
Why not provide counter arguments instead of spewing random logical fallacies?
>>55263154
Objectively, figuratively, literally, and transdimensionally autism.
>>55262885
people like you should be banned
>>55263154
ad autism
Too bad no amount of conservative stupidity will be as dumb as this:
>Let's be inoffensive to everything and everyone!
>Except men
>And straights
>And whites
>And neurotypicals
>And people who are fine with their original gender
>And religious people who aren't Muslims
>And someone who has even the slightest disagreement with me on this or anything else!
>>55259277
>the vast majority of our country is dumbfuckistan
So why don't liberals just move somewhere else?
>>55263084
maybe they are using TOR, and it switched nodes or something
>>55263279
>ad autism
>>55259277
All people think of how the world would be if only others similar to them were in it. Liberals see a utopia, conservatives see a dystopia.
>>55259277
Bcuz conservatives have jesus, darwin and hitler on their side..
>who needs facts when youre always right
>>55262885
>>55263154
>>55263349
>thinking pointing out logical fallicies makes an argument
>>55263349
>are you frustrated?
>ad hominem
>>55263349
>ad hominem
You have no right to claim that considering your opener was a giant ad-hominem post with a giant ad-hominem picture, cunt.
>>55263252
he doesn't have an argument.
he's so autistic that he thinks the logical fallacies he learned in english101 apply to a mongolian yak milking forum.
>>55263380
I'm pretty sure both factions think their politics and having like minded constituents would lead to a utopia, hence why they adhere to them, dumbfuck.
>>55259277
>dumbfuckistan
>lol this study shows how fucking stupid all you non liberals are YOU MAD? CHECK OUT THE PICTURE YOU DUMB FUCKS
>>55262885
>YOU GUYS ARE USING LOGICAL FALLACIES BECAUSE I SAID SO >:( AD HOMINIMS ARE MEAN GUYS COME ON
Autism is rough dude but come on. What were you expecting?
Conservative: disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.
Liberty: 1. freedom from arbitrary or despotic government or control.
2. freedom from external or foreign rule; independence.
3. freedom from control, interference, obligation, restriction, hampering conditions, etc.; power or right of doing, thinking, speaking, etc., according to choice.
As a liberal with socialist ideals I find it hard to see why anyone would be a conservative.
>>55263688
I doubt he learned them in school since he is not even correct in all of his assertions. The more likely response is he looked at the picture at the top of the homepage and tried to find what matched each post the most in his mind.
>>55262885
> Fallacy Fallacy
>>55263736
but liberty is unchanging, and the concept of rights are unchanging. socialist is forever changing, and government forever unlimited
>>55262885
Not an argument.
>>55262109
I won't lie, I get most of my beliefs from Thomas Sowell and his many books. I agree with the vast majority of what he says. His book "Intellectuals and Society" really address the kinds of people like OP, and why they are a very big problem.
>>55263154
>not sure what I was expecting
>special pleading when shown conflicting evidence
Not sure if master ruseman or clinically retarded, either facet 10/10
>>55263154
Not cherry picking, how many of these types of liberals do you think were surveyed as compared to "educated" liberals?
Since you want a conversations, lets settle it with the very first line in the article you linked.
>It depends on how you define "conservative." The research shows classical liberals/libertarians are smartest of all.
Secondly, the first two studies referenced by your article (which in itself is cherry picking) are dealing specifically with college students and "young adults". This is selection bias, as far more young people are liberal than conservative. Show me a study of all ages, that takes into account education and income, and in equal numbers, and I would love to see the results.
The third source linked is a paper claiming drunk people express more conservative beliefs and therefore conservative beliefs require low effort thought. This is somehow supposed to make it bad.
The rest of the studies/surveys/papers listed are all dealing with college students, which again, is a liberal hugbox.
I am sure your article is 100% accurate and has no representation bias or any bias of any kind.
>>55263843
faggot
>>55263751
idk, they were recently added to the curriculum. he's probably a freshman in college.
>>55262885
There a point where 'special pleading' just becomes 'defining trend'.
Complaining otherwise while you get BTFO won't change that fact
>>55263800
Yes you are right, but in this world I feel we will never get true liberty for all unless we go through a socialist maybe even fascist system.
The role of a government should be to protect and look after the health and prosperity of the people without limiting their liberty.
Sadly liberty is more associated with individualism which leads to divided communities rather than respecting the individual but working for the community.
It's quite sad to think
the middle and last part of the article contradict the title and beginning part
it basically says that other studies show conservatives to be more intelligent but the author disregards the findings by assuming the subjects of the study must be libertarian and counts them as liberals for the purpose of the study despite them actually being identified as republicans
>>55259277
it's the areas with the most blacks
you can tell how "intelligent" progressives are for working so hard to ban anyone that could possibly disagree with them from debates
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OKTKaSh0pY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OKTKaSh0pY
>>55264115
>ad hominem
I'm not debating you.
>>55259277
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy95hbGiBmI&app=desktop
>>55263843
Again, point out fallacies in an opponents arguement without providing one of your own is not the same as having an argument.
Please, feel free to post an argument, and let us have at it.
>>55263947
I figure it's both. He started out trying stump /pol/, got overwhelmed with conflicting evidence, went full damage control/autist,
next is "haha I was only pretending to be retarded, trolled you, you mad xD" mode.
>>55264115
>SPECIAL PLEADING SPECIAL PLEADING SPECIAL PLEADING
>this post
>>55261750
>special pleading
We'll go with fucking retarded, then. Look up the definitions of terms before you use them, kiddo.
>>55262885
>what is the fallacy fallacy
>>55264248
/thread
>>55264115
You clearly don't know what a straw man is. You're completely misusing the term.
>>55264115
That's not what a strawman is. Your argument is invalid
>>55264200
Giving up
>>55264243
tu quoque. I already gave one, OP post. Just don't respond with stereotypical /pol/ bullshit. This >>55263971 was a good example.
>>55264248
ad hominem
>>55264268
ad hominem, incredulity
>>55264281
strawman
>>55264342
ad hominem, incredulity
is there a fallacy for when pointing out fallacies is a fallacy
>>55264402
I can't misrepresent an argument you don't have
>>55259277
Know-it-all-OP hyper-generalizes conservatives as dumb, liberals as smart.
I can do the same thing too OP.
Liberals are spineless traitors who run this country from an ivory tower. When so-called 'low-iq' conservatives pitch a fit to even the score, you bring in even more useless liberals from over the border.
I really hope this thread is bait. Even though many republicans are over-the-top religious, I've come to realize that leftists follow their own fairy-tale idealism that will kill western civilization.
>>55259277
>Multiple studies repeatedly confirm confirm blacks have a lower IQ on average than whites, asians and even hispanics. The dumbest of them are "straight from africa black" with the "very white" being one of the smartest.
>What gives?
>>55264402
If you were to debate someone face to face, would you just blurt out vocabulary words you learned from your high school education and simply not know how to add substance or debate in any sense?
>>55264402
Fallacy Fallacy.
>>55262885
>special pleading
>>55263154
>special pleading
>>55263349
>special pleading
>>55263843
>special pleading
>>55264115
>special pleading
>>55259277
Blacks are counted as conservatives because of their views on gay marriage. Blacks bring down the score. Most people would consider blacks to liberal and when 13% of the population is on your side and that 13% has an average IQ of 85, you are not going to have the higher average iq.
>>55264659
You didn't even respond to what I said... I'm curious as to whether or not you think this is how one debates...?
>>55264659
Fallacy Fallacy again
>>55264659
No joke if I ever met you in person I'd kick your pinko face in
>>55264659
>>55259277
HOLY FUCK Ive never seen so much autism and asshurt in just one thread
IN JUST ONE THREAD!!!
>>55264707
You need something to debate. Incredulity.
>>55264729
Strawman, again. I'm not saying the opposing argument is wrong, just stop feeding me /pol/ bullshit. Before you accuse me of just turning my head, I already recognized >>55263971 was a solid counter argument.
>>55264748
Ad hominem.
>>55264847
Strawman.
>>55264859
Ad hominem.
>>55259277
Dumbfuckistan is armed to the teeth and everyone knows how to work manual labor and are self sufficient whereas the blue states are dependent on welfare and at best are paper pushers.
>>55264867
Your id says 'SaidNERD'
>>55264867
Can you come with an argument, and stop pointing out fallacies? People are not perfect.
>>55264867
>Appeal to autism
>>55259277
>confirm confirm
>>55264867
>https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/unique-everybody-else/201305/intelligence-and-politics-have-complex-relationship
Basically sums up the issues with studies like your OP
>>55264748
>>55264867
wasn't making an argument anon I was making a promise
>>55265059
what are you accomplishing by pointing out fallacies
>>55265059
Please explain to me how that's incredulity.
Conservative here. I have the highest IQ on /pol/. Prove me wrong.
>>55262885
BTFO: the post
>>55265249
>Claims without evidence
Post evidence or else claim is discarded.
>>55264867
>I'm not saying the opposing argument is wrong, just stop feeding me /pol/ bullshit.
>/pol/ bullshit
Genetic Fallacy
>>55262885
>fallacy fallacy
>Comparing strong Republicans with strong Democrats, Carl finds that Republicans have a 5.48 IQ point advantage over Democrats. Broadening party affiliation to include moderate to merely leaning respondents still results in a Republican advantage of 3.47 IQ points and 2.47 IQ points respectively. Carl reconciles his findings with the social science literature that reports that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives by proposing that Americans with classically liberal beliefs are even smarter. Carl further reports that those who endorse both social conservatism and economic statism also have lower verbal IQ scores.
>"Overall, my findings suggest that higher intelligence among classically liberal Republicans compensates for lower intelligence among socially conservative Republicans,"
Social conservatives are dummies. Economic collectivists are dummies. Smarties are individualists, because that is the way they can shine.
>>55265183
that png
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAA 11/10
>>55265183
ad hominem
>>55265192
Just pointing out shit that doesn't work.
>>55265205
You didn't read or understand my study, thus incredulity.
>>55265327
Incredulity.
>>55265336
Strawman.
>>55265268
>Reddit tier usage of fallacies without actually having a further rebuke
>BTFO
Fuck off
>>55265431
>just pointing out shit that doesn't work
you could at least start with yourself
>>55265464
Ad-hominem De-Luxe
>>55265454
Ad hominem.
>>55265464
Ad hominem.
>>55265531
Incredulity, ad hominem.
Am i the only one that read the fucking article?
>comparing strong Republicans with strong Democrats, Carl finds that Republicans have a 5.48 IQ point advantage over Democrats. Broadening party affiliation to include moderate to merely leaning respondents still results in a Republican advantage of 3.47 IQ points and 2.47 IQ points respectively. Carl reconciles his findings with the social science literature that reports that liberals are more intelligent than conservatives by proposing that Americans with classically liberal beliefs are even smarter. Carl further reports that those who endorse both social conservatism and economic statism also have lower verbal IQ scores.
>"Overall, my findings suggest that higher intelligence among classically liberal Republicans compensates for lower intelligence among socially conservative Republicans," concludes Carl.
Also, the comments at Reason are almost always pretty good
>>55265573
and why are those things ''bad''
>>55265573
This isn't how logical fallacies work.
>>55265628
They are logical fallacies. Most of them are self-defeating faults in an argument.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallacy
>>55265628
I'm pointing out the fallacies. I never said they were bad, so, strawman.
>>55265649
Incredulity.
>>55259277
How is smart a person that sees no wrong with degeneracy?
>>55259277
unintelligent people don't change their environment much, hence they're prone to conservatism.
correlation, but not causation.
see: dumb liberals, intelligent conservatives.
>>55265431
Jesus Christ kek, what are you trying to accomplish by yelling "FALLACY" at everyone without responding to legitimate arguments? It makes you look like the faggot you are.
>>55264867
>You need something to debate. Incredulity.
That was not an intelligible statement given context... You did not respond to what I said again simply misused 'incredulity' in an attempt to make yourself somehow appear superior by using intermediate vocab. Bravo.
I am convinced in a verbal debate you would get annihilated by any decent speaker.
>>55265682
>strawman
That's not a straw man.
>Incredulity
Nope. Try again.
>>55259277
Bait
zzzzzzz….
>>55265581
>/pol/
>reading the article
Pick only one
>>55259598
>refuse to recognize niggers/gangbanger thug type as liberal.
Because most niggers are still "Christian" and hold deeply traditional values. Just because they are criminals doesn't make them liberal.
>>55265431
fallacy fallacy
>>55261422
>liberalism attracts pseudo-intellectuals, the kind of people who think they know whats best for everyone else.
But that's exactly what conservatives do. They are the ones always harping about preserving the moral fabric of society or something like that; said 'moral fabric' just happens to be whatever the conservative believes and not based on anything objective.
>>55265855
define strawman
>>55265855
Fallacy fallacy.
>>55265431
I did read your study. And several like it. I also understand it. It takes arbitrary measures of what the researchers decide are characteristic of Conservatism.
The whole study is one big strawman.
>>55265855
You're using every single one of those terms incorrectly.
>>55265891
conservatism is preserving the status quo
>>55265855
This is honestly humorous, you can not engage in a debate so you declare things to be "hominem's" despite the fact you and I were never having a debate prior to my inquiry on the basis of you verbal skills. Subsequently using said term is inapplicable.
>>55265900
Misrepresenting my argument for something else. I never said what you guys are arguing about is wrong, I'm pointing out fallacies in your reasoning. So far the best response in this thread has been >>55263971 which I've pointed out before.
>>55265907
Strawman.
>>55265948
Incredulity.
>>55265962
Incredulity.
>>55266005
Ad hominem.
>>55265573
>many studies is an argument
?
>>55265431
Also, someone else pointing out fallacies in your own 'argument' like >>55265336
is not a strawman.
I guess one could call that incredulity
>>55266034
Fallacy fallacy.
>>55266090
>>55266048
>>55265962
>>55265948
>>55265900
>taking this bait
>>55266034
There has to be an argument to represent first :^)
>>55266034
Fallacy fallacy. Nigger.
>>55266090
Incredulity.
>>55266095
Strawman.
>>55266147
OP post.
>>55266132
They're fucking retarded, OP wins.
>>55265581
>>55265855
you are using special pleading by only providing studies which show your own argument to be true.
You are using special pleading by dismissing evidence that shows your argument to be false.
You said >>55259433 and >>55259451 are special pleading. The list shows unfavorable data for the point that was being made.
You are dismissing arguments just because they are made poorly.
You are not debating, you shouted your argument and plugged your ears to any response.
600 gorillion replies
10/10 ruseman post, friend
>>55266204
Fallacy fallacy.
Incredulity.
wow its hysterical how rabid and assblasted everyone gets when this guy simply just points out how stupid and illogical ur arguments are
>>55266204
OP post was deconstructed already and you ignored the sources and arguments
Religious conservaties bring down the IQ average of right wing people,right wing atheists are the most intelligent and red pill people you will ever meet.
>>55265855
>>55259277
>I am le funny fallacy detection machine
Correlation does not imply causation. I thought you would know that, fallacy man. It's called
the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy.
>>55265855
faggot, kill yourself
>>55266314
No one even presented an argument.
The OP didn't even describe what the article actually said.
>>55266034
Strawman
Again I understand the study, I have major doubts about its veracity for reasons I and others have described.
>>55259277
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>>55264115
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>>55266204
So is pointing out logical fallacies your only argument? You only have one source in your OP and it comes from a dubious source, you have no argument. This is a bait thread, isn't it?
>inb4 ad hominem
>inb4 furtive
Off-topic and /b/-tier threads will be deleted (and possibly earn you a ban, if you persist). Unless they are quality, well thought out, well written posts, the following are examples of off-topic and/or /b/-tier threads:
>Red pill me on X. (with no extra content or input of your own)
>Are X white?
>Is X degeneracy?
>How come X girls love Y guys so much?
>If X is true, then how come Y? Checkmate Z
Pol BTFO
>IQ of black people are low
>HURRDURR KILL ALL NIGGERS
>IQ of conservatives are low
>WTF, THIS CANT BE RIGHT
This thread is completely autistic, well done.
>>55262885
>Hahaha logical fallacy that means u lose this le argument xddddddddddXDDDXDDDDXXDD
>>55259277
>California
>Part of the US
Nope. It's Mexico now
>>55262885
HAHAHAHHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHA
What a faggot.
>>55266204
retardation
>>55259906
We are 50th, that's not too bad.
>>55259906
Israel surprisingly low.
>>55262885
Your logical fallacies are non sequiturs, as
"Conservatives are dumb" is not an argument or irrelevant, at least. What specifics do you disagree with and what arguments do you disagree with?
>>55259277
>Savvy readers may recognize a problem with using these questions to sort people into just two ideological categories. And sure enough, Kemmelmeier got some results that puzzled him. He found that students who held more traditional views on gender and sex roles averaged lower on their verbal SAT and Achievement Test scores. "Surprisingly," he continued, this was not true of students with anti-regulation attitudes. With them, "all else being equal, more conservative respondents scored higher than more liberal respondents." Kemmelmeier ruefully notes that "this result was not anticipated" and "diametrically contradicts" the hypothesis that conservatism is linked to lower cognitive ability.
>Carl suggests that in the American political context, social scientists would expect Republicans to be less intelligent than Democrats. Instead, Republicans have slightly higher verbal intelligence scores (2–5 IQ points) than Democrats. How could that be?
>Carl finds that Republicans have a 5.48 IQ point advantage over Democrats. Broadening party affiliation to include moderate to merely leaning respondents still results in a Republican advantage of 3.47 IQ points and 2.47 IQ points respectively.
Looks like someone didn't read the article
>>55266204
You're the type of person that stays quiet in real life, aren't you. Inb4 muh ad hominem, stating logical fallacies does not work. We had a kid apply to law review and his draft was entirely
>which of course is a fallacy
>that's a strawman
>ad hominems
And we collectively bled our pens dry on that shit. No one with any sense of debate does what you are doing. There is no point to verbalizing identifying fallacies, only identifying for the sake of knowing how to respond back. You don't stop a bullet by shouting "bullet," you fucking move.
This isn't an ad hominem, it's information to make you capable of having a discussion. Either take it or don't, but if you choose the latter, expect everyone else to keep calling you a fag.
>>55262728
>I also am ignorant about a vast majority of academia, as I never went to school.
>That said, college is basically a place you pay money to have a singular ideology forced on you and get a piece of paper saying you paid your money and said the right things to professors.
Then how the fuck would you know that? Did you get your experience from 4chan?
Pretty sure you didn't test test at 133 or he just told you that to make you feel better.
>>55270252
Yeah, it's funny listening to people who either went to college 50 years ago (if at all) try to tell me what college is like now. They have no fucking clue. Why else would they listen to college dropouts on the radio?
>>55261931
>le age out of leftism meme
Most intellectuals and scientists are leftist. And it's adults that buy and read their books. Kids only read them because they are assigned them in school.
It's pretty fucking obvious OP. Jews have a long cultural history of staying loyal to themselves. They want to totally run America, this is the way they do it. (Keep in mind Israel is not liberal)
>>55259277
conservatives can be dumb, but a liberal in america/europe is undeniably stupid, even with your educational merits, you simply lack critical thinking.
Conservatives know whats good for a country
>>55259277
you do realize that the democratic party is less liberal than the republicans
>>55270505
>Implying older people don't have more real world experience.
>>55259277
Is that a map of the worst states in our country? Thats what it looks like to me. So smart man, please explain to me how you are right even though your ideology is consistently proven wrong.
>>55270999
h-hey man minnesota, wisconsin, maine, and new hampshire are alright...
>>55267452
You realize the United States is the 23rd on that list, right?
>>55263349
You aren't debating anything, just labelling logical fallacies; whether they're true or not.
>>55262365
4chan is still liberal besides /pol/ and /int/
>>55273614
oh and /v/ and /r9k/
>>55273614
>visit /b/ for the 1st time in years a few days ago
>sanders shilling thread
It's true, /b/ is the underage board
Oh and don't forget /k/
>>55273614
>>55273663
and /k/
>people endorse more conservative views when drunk
What? Being drunk is typically associated with short sighted retardation, what was their definition of conservative?
>>55259277
>reason.com
seems trustworthy
>>55259277
Has nothing to do with politics or ideology, it has to do with poor people not achieving much academically while rich northerners graduate from northern Ivy League schools.
Has nothing to do with political ideology. And intelligent conservatives are higher than intelligent liberals.
>>55259277
These threads are ploys to slide the truth to the bottom:
>>55245895
EUROPE MUST KNOW
