Egyptian investigators 90% sure bomb brought down Russian plane.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/08/us-egypt-crash-russia-flights-tourists-idUSKCN0SX07D20151108
DESU the RUtards deserved it for shooting down MH17 and resorting to a disinformation campaign to deny responsibility instead of manning up and apologizing .
Says he'll bomb ISIS when he goes into Syria.
Proceeds to bomb the other groups opposed to Assad.
Gives ISIS time to bomb his own country's airplane.
You're so "smart" Putin.
>>55250756
Assad was low key and unknown until ISIL wanted to remove him.
Zero terror problems from Syria, although that is where Saddam sent his WMD.
Keeping a benign dictator in power over a relaxed Muslim community is a good idea.
Remember, Islam is not the religion of "peace", it is the religion of "submission".
>>55250504
>be russian
>get shot
C U C K S
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>>55250504
Russians shot down MH17? Source? Cause the only thing I know is that investigation proved that MH17 was brought down by BUK launched missile, which is used by both Russia and Ukraine. So how do you know who used it?
russia keked by karma kek
>>55250939
>be British
>get keked
>>55250949
Yeah, you might be right, but who let the dogs out ?
>>55250868
Assad and Putin's real reluctance to actually destroy ISIS is what will destroy the Assad regime in the end.
>>55250504
R U S S I A N S B T F O
But what if the Russians are the good guys all along?
>>55251028
Nope.
ISIL will keep the other Arab / Persian countries busy (while the USA sends over men to die and spends spends spends....).
Syria will continue to put out small uprisings against Assad, and rule with a fist, not an open hand.
Our current POTUS has no clue about international relations, so we have another year to put up with this nonsense.
>>55250504
Why isn't the middle east pure glass yet? Why do we put up with sandniggers at all?
I mean, it's [the current year]. Come on.
>>55250504
whatever, shill
>>55251099
My Poland bro's representing !
>I have zero Polish lineage, just love 'em like bro's.
>>55250949
nice try, Putin >>55250949
ISIS is kind of in the right here.
They have a right to self defense when Russia just declared war on them and started killing them.
They have a right to fight back against Russia.
I'm not saying I support what ISIS Stands for, i'm saying, if your people are getting bombed you have a god-given right to bomb them back. It's the rules of nature.
We spoke about this in our seminar on Friday. My tutor suspects that IS was most likely not responsible for the attack and the strike instead indicates the involvement of a security service. I mean the attack may undermine Putin's authority at home if he can't keep his citizens safe so this strikes was a deliberate attempt to undermine his authority and the legitimacy of Russia's involvement in Syria.
>>55251171
Assad's military won't fight for him forever.
It's Soviet Afghanistan all over again. Russia supporting a doomed regime.
>>55251278
>ISIS has a right to self defence
What the fuck did I just read
>>55250504
>the RUtards deserved it for shooting down MH17
gonna need some proofs for that anon
>innocents deserve to die to something their nation "supposedly" did
should have finished your post with pssshh nothing personnel.
>>55251206
Bad idea.
One nuke tied to the USA, and the rest of the Earth boycotts us economically.
Now, if you can find an item in your residence made in the USA that is not a pencil, a drinking glass, a notebook, I applaud you.
Plus, a nuke from the USA would open the doors to any nuclear country to use them to get rid of the opposition.
>Hello Fallout 3.
>>55250504
I thought Egypt would push against the bomb theory as long as they could. That explosion was the sound of Egyptian economy flushing down the toilet I guess.
>>55251377
To be fair australia is even worse. Like when you publicly supported East Timor and got BTFO on anzac days a coupla years back.
Talk shit, get hit.
>>55251377
Doesn't everybody have a right to self defense?
If a police officer comes up to you and starts shooting you with a pistol are you going to let him kill you?
>>55251377
The banter of a cia/mossad agent.
>>55251377
An NSA shill worried about American allies.
>>55251357
I double guarantee you the grunts in Syria get wild booty, booze, steaks, etc....
They ain't got nothing else going on.
Nobody visits the ME for school, hospital care, sports... all they have is refined armies.
>>55250949
The same US infrared satellites that detected a midair explosion in Egypt also detected a SAM launch from rebel held territory.
>>55251412
This isnt CIV 5 for fuck sake
>>55251449
Yes. A bomb confirmation would devastate its tourism industry.
And I'm pretty sure ISIS did it. Bomb-making is a basic terrorist procedure. They had means, motive, and opportunity.
>>55251460
>police officer
>starts shooting
>I'm not Black.
>MFW.
>>55251455
I only live here, I rarely support anything we do cause we are a nation of fuckwits run by fuckwits
>>55251593
>no white people get killed by cops
>>55251593
What i'm saying is that ISIS should not be expected by society to bend over and let Russia murder all of them.
You guys are fucking sick.
If Russia wants ISIS gone they should do it diplomatically. Once you start murdering them, they have a god-given right to murder you back. Which is what's happening now.
I don't think Russia even ATTEMPTED diplomacy with ISIS, perhaps they were too busy bombing the Assad rebels instead
>>55250504
Civilians on both sites died. In russia and in the netherlands. I'm not that low that I celebrate the action of novorussia terrorist or the IS.
>>55251672
Technically white people do get killed by police more.
We're just too pussy to stand up to "The Man".
>>55251548
Really ?
We have the EU.
We have the ECOWAS.
We have the UN.
We have NATO.
All of them would lambast the USA as the Devil.
As it stands now, our POTUS has ruined ties with most of the rest of the world, and they only cling to us because our foolish USA consumers keep buying crap made elsewhere.
Yes, the USA makes automobiles, and drugs, and Hollywood, and Hearty-Plank, and Budweiser... but we actually have very little manufacturing.
If China decides to close off freighters for 2 weeks to the USA,,, we would be in *chaos*.
>>55251541
If so, source please.
>>55251647
>submitting to the britbong
>thinking we aren't run by god incarnate malcolm turnbull
labour force worker detected
>>55251726
But where's Nuclear Gandhi?
(Every good Civ player will get the joke)
>>55251301
>this strikes was a deliberate attempt to undermine his authority and the legitimacy of Russia's involvement in Syria
>ISIS killing Russian civilians undermine the legitimacy of Russian intervention in Syria
"no", it would be like saying that 9/11 undermined the legitimacy of US intervention in Afganistan
btw who caught the communication between the "secret service guy" and IS?
>>55251701
Provide the Chancellor for ISIL and I might agree.
Seems to me their Caliphate is dependent upon rogue bands of Boko Harum slaughtering innocents.
ISIL has no defined government parliament, nor a spokesperson, nor a PR Director.
>>55251733
>If so, source please.
We will never get something definitly. But posting from seperatist after the accidents in the online media, pictures of a buk launcher with one rocket missing etc. It is summing up.
Nobody expect russia or the seperatist wanted to hit a civilian air plane.
>haha hundreds of Russian civilians died RUSSIA BTFO! xD
This thread is low tier shilling
I suspsect JIDF trying their usual divide an conquer tactics
>>55251701
>>55251278
>>55251701
t. us state dept
>>55251701
>Diplomacy with ISIS
You understand that they are not a legitimate state right? Diplomacy of what? reaching a compromise on who and who not to behead?
>>55251903
great reply. thank you my upside down walking friend who has Christmas in the middle of Summer.
:-)
>>55251815
ISIS does have a spokesman, but he's american and currently in hiding because America wants him dead and isn't going to attempt diplomacy
>>55251987
Answer the question then. How do you go about diplomatic relations with a group like ISIS? I'll get my popcorn too, this should be good
>>55252074
>How do you go about diplomatic relations with a group like ISIS?
ISIS is trying to restore middle eastern culture to what it was before.
America wants it westernized which is why Obama isn't pulling the troops out until ISIS is gone. ISIS is pretty much the last stand for the brute nature of what middle-eastern culture used to be.
It's basically a bunch of old people trying to resist change
However, i'm sure they are willing to make concessions if the governments would open communications with them. America did, we had a couple of prisoner exchanges with ISIS i recall.
Russia, however, just seemed to start bombing without even trying to tell them leave. Putin just walked into Syria and said "die"
>>55252074
Dude ! I am on *your side*.....
My reply was not sarcasm...... (except for the upside down part... ha ha ha.....)
You are right... ISIL is a rogue group of bandwagoners who cause mayhem and death "in the name of Islam".
The real solution is "normal" Muslims to stand up and protest in the streets and take up arms.
I'm tired of the USA being the world's police.
Their Moslem community needs to police themselves and crush radicals and psycho bombers. Step 1... get rid of hijab.
>Lee Priest FTW.
more terrorism from America's latest proxy army
It's easy to see because when Russia asks who and where they should bomb America says nothing, can't be giving away your troop positions
>>55252181
>It's basically a bunch of old people trying to resist change
Last I checked, nobody in ISIL is like, over 40.
They are brainwashed.
>>55250949
watch from 6:26 till 8:00
don't ignore it because it's vice. look at it from an objective standpoint.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYEH6Tfzouo
>>55251455
Yeah It's called consistency, we had to apologise for colonialism so we weren't just gonna be silent when a bunch of gooks do it
>>55252252
They're probably the children of parents who were murdered when America walked into the middle east and straight-up murdered their president because they thought he had a nuclear bomb which he didn't actually have, all because of faux terrorists that had nothing to do with them crashing a plane into a tower
>>55252200
Has Assad stopped people from leaving his country to go to Germany ? No.
Has Assad kept terror under control until the CIA backed "freedom fighters" attempted to unseat him ? Yes.
Putin knows peace. Sometimes peace arrives because you keep people quiet.
Freedom to some people means anarchy.
>It ain't me starts playing.
>>55250504
>>55250504
>>55250504
CNN monkey here
>>55252272
>dont ignore it because it's vice
Sorry can't do that gov'na
Also old mate talking about diplomacy fucking kill yourself do you even realise how terrorists work? They want to take over the western world too not just restore happy old islam in their desert
>>55250504
Shut the fuck up faggot shill those were tourists and not military. If one of our planes had the same fate they wouldn't be posting "they deserved it"
Have some respect.
>>55250504
US Propaganda
>>55252360
List the USA regiments, divisions, and operatives who were involved in murdering:
1. Quadaffi
2. Hussein
3. Mubarak
I *think* each of these individuals were brought down and removed by their own countrymen.
Am I wrong ?
>>55250756
>Believing media lies
>>55252414
>They want to take over the western world too not just restore happy old islam in their desert
Nigger are you retarded
"ISIS stands for Islamic State in Iraq and Syria because the group's territory straddles the border between the two counties"
This is literally the FIRST operation ever in the history of the world where ISIS operated outside of the middle east, but only because Putin started killing them in Syria
ISIS doens't give a single shit about the world outside of Syria and Iraq
>>55251412
>USA is on its own in a post apocalyptic world
Yeah, how could the world's largest and most powerful nation possibly survive a global crisis?
>>55250504
>the RUtards deserved it for shooting down MH17
It's like they aren't bombed most recent plane either.
>>55252197
The regular Muslim doesn't care enough about their land or people enough to truly stand up for it and potentially die for it. Look at the joke that is the Afghan army, groups like the Taliban and ISIS have a firm belief and focus on what they are doing which gives them power over regular people who don't even know what the fuck they are even doing and still building mud huts.
I totally agree, those people are the only ones that will ever bring peace to their lands but their culture is fucked and based on a violent ideology to begin with. There will never be peace in the middle east ever, its completely a lost cause and its their own fault
>>55252497
>what is global jihad?
fuck off you traitorous spook go read your constitution
>>55250504
ISIS should just deny it and blame it on Assad or someone
You know ,The Russian way
>>55250504
>being happy that innocent people died
>being this much of an edgelord
Why are we even allowing these people to post?
>>55252604
everyone is allowed to speak
even shills
>>55251701
Russians don't negotiate with terrorists, and rightfully so. You cannot legitimize them in any shape or form.
You are either delusional or trolling if you honestly think they should be negotiated with anyway.
See here:
http://articles.philly.com/1986-01-15/news/26052630_1_hostage-crisis-soviet-captives-islamic-liberation-organization
>Only two days after the kidnappings, the body of one of the four kidnapped men, a 30-year-old consular secretary named Arkady Katov, was found, shot through the head, on a Beirut trash dump.
>Apparently, that's when the Soviets dropped the idea of sweet talk and turned the matter over to the KGB.
>>55252513
Dude,,,, most grocery stores in the USA have maybe 1 day's worth of food for their surrounding citizens.
Everything is done under a philosophy of JITI which means..... just in time inventory.
We are all slaves to the highway system, railroads, and shipyards.
Your local fast food place gets deliveries daily, because they don't stockpile.
99% of the USA has *zero* stockpile, be them businesses or normal citizens.
An economic boycott from China would wreck us.
>>55252537
The Afghan army is a joke because their entire country is still in the Feudalistic Age. They know nothing about land ownership, or personal success, or rewards for individualism.
"The religion of submission" is what they follow.
I don't count on the lost Moslem in a 15th century country to rid the Earth of the Bad Muslim programme. I want sophisticated Islam people from Morocco, Turkey, UAE, Tibet, Russia to lead the change and the charge.
>>55251903
They only have to accept to be more tolerant and behead in moderation
>>55250504
>russians shoot down a plane
>US backed terrorists bomb a plane
what a time to live
>>55252181
>ISIS is trying to restore middle eastern culture to what it was before.
Before what exactly? Use precise dates.
>>55252657
I live in South Dakota. As much as I hate it, our entire existence is farming and ranching.
We would destroy all other nations if it came down to pure survival.
