>modern music exists mainly because of black musicians
how does it feel /pol/?
>>55226146
Now I know why modern music is soo bad
>>55226146
but the instruments are white made.
how are things chile?
>how does facts feel
You're being made to think with emotions instead of cognitive apparatus. You think you're trolling some racists now, but what really happens is that the mechanism of emotional mind control just settles deeper into your dualistic representation of the world.
I listen to Hartman and Brother John albums every friday dinner.
You need to wake up.
>>55226146
H-TOWN REPRESENT.
>>55226146
FLY THEM H-TOWN COLORS.
Modern music mostly sucks. The more black oriented the worse it is. And a lot of those black musicians are heavily influenced by white folk music; I'll admit, there are some really amazing black musicians (Charlie Parker, Charles Mingus, Herbie Hancock) but the whole "WE WUZ ROCK STAHS" thing is a huge meme and highly overrated. The idea that we "stole" their music is propaganda, white people borrowed and revolutionized their music, just like black musicians borrowed and revolutionized southern gospel, country, folk and scots-irish tunes.
>>55226458
As a lifelong houstonian, fuck off. The whole screwston scene is totally fucking overrated. The only good rappers to come out of houston are The Dude and Geto Boys, which is 2 more than any other city in the united states, but still.
>>55226393
Errm, not really.
Strings instruments originate from the African kora.
Mallet instruments originate from the African balafon.
First horn was found in Africa.
Drums and shakers originate from Africa.
The only instruments white people invented were keyboards and electronic instruments.
>>55226894
Woodwinds were invented by whites too, forgot that.
>>55226733
>Gospel
Invented by blacks based on church hymns
>Country
Fusion of folk and blues, the latter of which was invented by blacks
>And a lot of those black musicians are heavily influenced by white folk music
If we follow your point, European folk music evolved directly from African folk music.
>inb4 le out of africa theory is false maymay
Nah, it's still the most widely accepted model in the scientific community.
>>55226894
>First horn was found in Africa.
Nope, Sumeria/Akkad
> Strings instruments originate from the African kora.
Sumeria again
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyres_of_Ur
> Drums and shakers originate from Africa.
Neolithic China
> The only instruments white people invented were keyboards and electronic instruments.
pic related pipe instrument from Ireland dated to 2000BC, you would called it a Bagpipes today.
>>55226146
sure because blacks invented the guitar, the recording systems, the pentagram, etc.
they have a profound influence in modern music. and that is a good thing. but they are not the main cause of modern music.
>>55226242
Your samba samba music has nigger DNA in it too monkey
Western notation of music was founded outside of any major Empire or great civilization.
The middle ages.
In our worst the niggers latch onto and try and make it their best, but instead get dwarfed by a white man elvis Presley
>>55226146
>Modern music exist because of negroids
>Modern music is degenerate
>Therefore negroids are degenerate
Feels like you have proven what we all already knew, op
>>55226894
How can you say that with this certainty? The archaeology of that time, ancient ages before the iron age maybe before the bronze age in that case, isn't that accurate.
>>55226146
Dr dre just steals all his samples and shit from old shit. It's what negroes do
>>55226146
>What are bluegrass, psychedelia, swing
opinion discarded, op is a faggot
>>55226146
>music
>black musicians
What?
>pic related
Funny you should spout that lie, because regardless, modern 'music' is widely held to be the worst ever created
>>55226146
Muh africa n sheit. We beez egpytshuns.
Blacks didn't invent blues.
Look it up. It was invented by a white man in the late 1800s.
>>55226146
Lol, all those instruments they're playing where invented by whites/asians/egyptians.
Says it all.
While Whites were building empires blacks were beating on drums.
KEK!
>modern music
You can thank Adolph Rickenbacker and IBM for modern music.
90s rap and Jazz are good music. /pol/ hates on anything with word black on it.
>>55227396
>Gospel
>invented by blacks based on church hymns
I'd disagree but I can see how you'd have a case
>Country
>Fusion of folk and blues, the latter of which was invented by blacks
Nigger you what? Country IS folk music. It incorporated blues eventually but it started in appalachia, which, y'know, not a heavy presence of niggers in the mountains.
>And a lot of those black musicians are heavily influenced by white folk music
>If we follow your point, European folk music evolved directly from African folk music.
Motherfuckin' brazil monkey, you're going to have to substantiate your use of "directly". That's like saying the partition of prussia led directly to the bombing of nagasaki and hiroshima. Some shit went on in between.
>Southern whites didn't contribute a thing
>European traditional music didn't contribute a thing
>European instruments didn't contribute a thing
Saying modern music is a black invention is like saying English is an American invention. They have their influence, sure, but it's possibly within the 0.01% range overall.
>>55227886
>can't spell
>can't use apostrophes
Nigger confirmed
>>55226146
Techno electro eurobeat classic rock retro wave or gtfo
>>55227419
>>First horn was found in Africa.
>Nope, Sumeria/Akkad
>The earliest trumpets date back to 1500 BC and earlier. The bronze and silver trumpets from Tutankhamun's grave in Egypt [...] date back to this period.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tutankhamun's_trumpets
>> Strings instruments originate from the African kora.
>Sumeria again
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyres_of_Ur
Actually you're right, but the kora was still the predecessor of composite chordophones (guitar, violin, cello, etc.).
>> Drums and shakers originate from Africa.
>Neolithic China
>The drum is the oldest known instrument in the world dating back to 4000 BC in Egypt.
And idiophones originated in Africa.
>>55228121
>>55228121
Sorry, English isn't my native language despite living here but you still get the point
>>55226146
not listening to vaporwave
learn how to macintosh plus wn
>>55227717
>Bluegrass
Subgenre of country, which is a mix of folk and blues, the latter of which was invented by blacks.
>Psychedelia
Subgenre of rock, which was invented by blacks.
>Swing
Invented by blacks.
>>55228265
You know Mac Plus is a tranny, right?
>>55226146
I never understand this, in whatever form it takes.
All your food was invented by black people and stolen by white people!
All your music was invented by black people and stolen by white people!
All your art invented by black people and stolen by white people!
All your infrastructure built by black people and stolen by white people!
It's the kind of logic applied to evolution; I'M NOT BLACK THEREFORE EVOLUTION DOESN'T EXIST! HOW DID I COME FROM AFRICA?!
So, if people IN THE PAST get the good credit for the things they did, then obviously we're on the same hook that people get the BACK CREDIT for the things they did. But is it just words? Because often times I am expected to pay black people for the work their ancestors did, AFTER I apologize and let them live in my house.
Where does it end? I haven't done anything. In 200 years will my son's son's son's son have to apologize for being so damn apathetic, 200 years before he never didn't did it?
>>55228297
>is ironical
is not like i´m going to fuck him because i listen to his music, am i?
>>55226146
Yeah, we should totally let be useless criminals because of that.
>>55227911
Never take a Brazilians word or info, the schools in the slums aren't very accurate, aint that right da Silva?
>modern music is only pop
pic related, this is the man that invented modern music,
pretty much every jazz nigger or kike ripped off his harmonic language. His use of the orchestra inspired every terrible film composer ranging from Williams to Bernstein
>>55228275
>bluegrass has anything to do with blues
this is b8
>>55227789
[citation needed]
>>55227835
>While Whites were building empires blacks were beating on drums.
>Implying there were no Black empires
Look up Songhay, Mali, Ethiopia, etc.
>>55227911
>Nigger you what? Country IS folk music. It incorporated blues eventually but it started in appalachia, which, y'know, not a heavy presence of niggers in the mountains.
Pic related.
>>55227911
>That's like saying the partition of prussia led directly to the bombing of nagasaki and hiroshima.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_analogy#False_analogy
>>55227951
>They have their influence, sure, but it's possibly within the 0.01% range overall.
>Rock, pop, EDM, blues, jazz, soul, gospel, funk and reggae comprise 0.01% of music
2/10 bait.
>>55228475
Kek the private schools in rich neighborhoods are bad too.
>>55226146
false
All modern music stems from Modernist classical music which spawned from the Impressionist era in 18th century Europe. The real issue here is how Amerocentric these discussions are, which in itself manifests into an issue of race.
>>55228677
>>55228532
And he ripped his harmonic language from non-European traditional folk music. Your point?
>>55228574
Do you want me to repeat it?
>Bluegrass
Subgenre of country, which is a mix of folk and blues, the latter of which was invented by blacks.
>>55228728
hype
>>55228577
>Songhay, Mali, Ethiopia
>Empires
Top kek hueland, top kek
>>55228608
Prisma Ilya is shit.
>>55226146
>modern
proves nigs ruin everything they touch
>>55228180
>>The earliest trumpets date back to 1500 BC and earlier. The bronze and silver trumpets from Tutankhamun's grave in Egypt [...] date back to this period.
Am, Sumeria and Akkad existed 1000's of years before Egypt
> The drum is the oldest known instrument in the world dating back to 4000 BC in Egypt.
Am, the Neolithic started in China about 8,500BC, you can use common core to figure that out.
>>55228748
>And he ripped his harmonic language from non-European traditional folk music. Your point?
Your response pretty much shuts down your original argument you huetard
>>55228714
Exactly, OP is a shit troll
mostly certified
)
>>55228799
>An empire is defined as "an aggregate of nations or people ruled over by an emperor or other powerful sovereign or government, usually a territory of greater extent than a kingdom.
They comprised many ethnicities, had leaders and their teritory was larger than that of African kingdoms (i.e. Kingdom of Aksum), so yeah, they're empires.
>>55228777
good triple
>>55228331
Exactly. Also music is one of the most organic things human have invented. Not one race can claim to have a certain type of music, it's constantly evolving with all cultures contributing to the art form.
>>55228577
Copper was produced in Anatolia in 7500BC
Copper was discovered in West Africa in the 8th century AD
EURASIANS ARE 8000 YEARS AHEAD OF YOU
>>55228954
>Sumeria and Akkad existed 1000's of years before Egypt
[citation needed]
>Am, the Neolithic started in China about 8,500BC, you can use common core to figure that out.
Doesn't mean drums were invented right when it started.
>>55228964
>Your response pretty much shuts down your original argument you huetard
Would you care to explain how?
>>55229098
desho desho
>>55229136
And what does that have to do with the subject of the thread?
>>55229224
why am i always pink
You are correct, but we can only imagine what would've been created if this wasn't the only thing people hear from childhood on.
It actually may have deadened or ears.
>>55229321
>>55229225
>>55229177
>>55229524
>>55229224
>>55229098
>>55228992
>>55228777
>>55228832
>>55228728
>>55228677
>>55228608
>>55229224
>>55229224
>>55229524
>>55229568
Is this a weaboo thread for boludos?
>>55229610
desu
>>55229601
all those you've quoted, all those you'll ever quote
all me
>>55226146
>how does it feel /pol/?
Feels like black people don't even fucking respect the greats their community gave to the world.
Blacks talk about "we wuz kings n shit" all the time, but the fail to fucking see how great they were after slavery. All the way from Louis Armstrong, to Bird, to Miles and in my opinion one of the world's greatest musicians of the 20th century, Coltrane, Wayne Shorter (the greatest living Jazz composer), Hendrix, and countless others; nobody cares about Langston Hughes, WEB DuBois, and other great black intellectuals of the early 20th century. Where are they now? Surely racism is the cause of the loss of all these greats; things must have somehow been better back then to produce all these great thinkers and artists. Poor blacks in 2015! Perhaps if it was 1915, they'd be better off than they are now.
>>55229656
You are not me, nigger. Take you're kike-wannabe flag and go home.
>>55229844
kinda disappointed desu
They went from jazz and blues to rap and hiphop. I mean some RnB can bee good at least. But even that thing is dying out.
>>55229894
>>55226146
>Modern music exists
No, it would exist without black people too. But would sound different.
>>55229812
>glass walls
MAN THE PATRIARCHY THOUGHT OF EVERYTHING!
>nigger noise
>'music'
>>55229965
>>55230113
>Literally ALL modern music is bad
Wow, this board is full of plebs. I bet you think you're smart for putting 2-hour Mozart mixes from YouTube as background noise.
Fuck anime.
>>55230263
>>55229177
The OP's argument was that modern music exists mainly because of blacks, even though Debussy and Ravel's impressionism were all more encompassing in terms of influence. Not one single facet of music in the twentieth century, ranging from Jazz, Modern classical, Film soundtracks, The great American Songwriters would've have existed without Debussy playing the piano or composing for orchestra
Blacks were responsible for majority of the popular music at the time, and pop music isn't art
OP is a poptimist faggot desu sempai
Oh and by the way, Blues is rooted in traditional European folk as well with it's use of Pentatonic scale, so in a sense, modern black music wouldn't exist without old white music
>>55230263
>>55230151
>>55229965
>>55229894
>>55230151
go back to /int/ otacos
>>55230404
>>55226146
shure thing
>>55230346
Touhou BGM remixes, actually.
>>55226146
just thankful for being alive
>>55226146
jokes on you i like bluegrass. i dare you to say that has nigger roots, i double dare you
>>55230346
Mozart is the most patrician of artists huehue
It doesn't exist mostly because of them, it exists SOLELY because of them. Literally everything you listen to, pop, rap, rock is based on black music.
Go and listen to some white music from the 1930's, it's gay as fuck.
>>55230478
voyage 1969 desho
>>55226146
Blacks != niggers
>>55230625
>pop music is the only form of music
Terrible shitposting sempai san
>>55230778
anime friend
>>55230890
ily
>>55230625
>Go and listen to some white music from the 1930's, it's gay as fuck.
>imblying prokofiev is gay as fuck
Kill yourself.
>>55230432
>The OP's argument was that modern music exists mainly because of blacks, even though Debussy and Ravel's impressionism were all more encompassing in terms of influence
They were hugely influential on modern classical and on jazz, but blacks still were the driving force behind rock, pop, electronica, blues, soul, gospel, and other genres.
>Popular music isn't art
Music as a whole is art. Two Steps from Hell aren't any more "artistic" than, say, Peter Brötzmann or Mezbow, for using some centuries-old set of rules and instruments.
>>55230738
True. It is more accurate to say that Blacks are a proper subset of niggers. All blacks are niggers, but not all niggers are black. For example, some are South American.
>>55230624
>not bach
pleb detected desu senpai
who /red army choir/ here?
technically, it's modern (20th century) music.
>Sacred War
http://youtu.be/nTx4Kglgv78
>Until the death of the Cross (post-Soviet)
http://youtu.be/LzCVhcpjiaI
>Rodina - Motherland
http://youtu.be/ClIm8LAMR1w
>>55231173
blini
>>55231173
My favorite red army song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVRdhg6biN0
>>55230987
Electronic music is classically rooted sempai, with Varese and Stockhausen at the helm, and Kraftwerk influenced almost everyone Detroit techno artist, it's more white driven than black
>Music as a whole is art
No it's not sempai
Art music that is traditionally notated and played by professionally trained musicians is inherently superior and more artistic than some cocksucker who plays 4 chords on a guitar or some cheesy gospel song
>>55231134
What's Bach's best opera?
>>55231659
Definitely the Passion of St. John
>Listening to modern music
>Not acknowledging Wagner as the end of music
Plebs, the lot of you.
>>55230987
>electronica
You've never listened to Kraftwerk or New Wave.
1980
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMPC8QJF6sI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvIEA2dBKGA
Modern music a shit
>>55231113
>>55226146
That explains why it's shit, then.
>>55232005
>This video is not available.
>Sorry about that.
What the fuck is this? Only shitskin countries are supposed to be geographically blocked by Youtube, not the US!
>>55232126
>>55231769
oratorios are not opera
>>55231788
We live in a world where American pop culture has rooted itself in the minds of everyone and they mistakenly assume its art
America has an amazing art tradition like Ives, Gershwin, Carter, Cowell, Rorem, Copland, Harrison, and Reich, but they are overlooked
>>55232005
The huetard was right about almost everything else except that and early pop music, whose roots owe as much to the Art song writers as they do to rag and jazz of the era
>If you can't handle China and Syria, you'll only get two terms
HOLY FUCKING REKT
>>55231592
cute :3
>>55232381
>Ives
>Reich
pretty patrician of you, son
>>55232381
Gershwin owes a lot to the Jazz and Rag of the era. I'd hardly call his work art.
>>55232384
>>55232306
Visage - Fade to Grey
It's on youtube without a video
hundreds of white musicians existed during those times but they got over shadowed by blacks only today because kikes wrote the history
>>55232529
>>55232927
Blacks may have invented it but whites perfected it
>>55232988
>>55233059
>>55233059
>>55233087
>>55233087
>>55232496
Symphony 4 and Desert music all day errday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eibaIE7Dwso
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPVexT6itPA
>being an American
>not knowing and loving Ives
He's our musical heritage and should be a national art music hero. He should be the one of the first of five names when recalling our art heritage
>>55232524
But his compositions and orchestral music are too well written to be not called art
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Md6BRcKsRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcPj20p7vLE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KU1X3Wut-k0
>>55233052
This music is European and one of the most influential Electronic precursors.
Human League cite their influences as the Soundtrack for Clockwork Orange.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDKsk9oTOPc
>>55231592
they're so patriotic, militant, yet soulful.
I like this one, Mia Rodina, a lot
http://youtu.be/v6AnjV8S6Xw
>>55233227
![[Underwater-rori] Haiyore! Nyarlko - 06 [A4B20565].mkv_snapshot_06.43_[2013.01.30_16.12.07].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Bhaugcm.jpg "[Underwater-rori] Haiyore! Nyarlko - 06 [A4B20565].mkv_snapshot_06.43_[2013.01.30_16.12.07].jpg")
>>55233306
>>55233398
>>55226146
lol oh yeah, lets just forget about the titans of european classical music and how the rest of the world is still playing catch up.
>>55233252
>tfw general william booth enters into heaven
As a classically-trained singer, I'm probably biased
>>55233450
>>55226146
>modern music exists mainly because of black musicians
Not even remotely true.
>>55233515
>tfw Feldeinsamkeit, Serenity, and Tom Sails Away
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2closM4jzc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx7B1BuYe98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9ZWKvxpD0w
I consider Ives one of greatest art song writers and rank him along Faure, Debussy, Poulenc, and Schumann
>>55234039
>>55234321
anime friend ilu pls respond
>>55234584
>>55234652
>>55235075
desu
>>55233970
Those are all good but 'Tom Sails Away' is probably my favourite, especially as performed by William Sharp.
>>55235075
>>55235194
Get a room, you kawaii mofos.
>>55235651
>>55226894
And that's because white people were originally from Africa.
>>55226894
>keyboard
based on kalimba actually
>>55235748
ill just leave this here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpqm1hxgH-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRU1AJsXN1g
Modern music literally only exists because of whites.
>modern implies modernity
>dat white
>music involves written language
>dat white
>modern music requires electronics
>dat white
>modern distribution of music requires technology
>dat white
modern music requires culture
>whites enable that.
Black tribes in Papua new guinea failed the mirror test where they couldnt recognize themselves in a mirror.
>gorillas can.
meet koko the gorilla with the iq of 80, making her smarter then the majority of africans!
>>55236111
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cznin6tapeA
nigger chant is different than intellectual brilliance.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTc1mDieQI8
and again
>>55230402
street racers dont need girls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDXWK3W477w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Tr0otuiQuU
>>55226733
What about K-rino
Also you're a faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi8vJ_lMxQI
idk i think nigger music better than this kek
>>55236679
>>55226443
>>55226458
fucking niggers and spics ruined houston
>>55236472
Sakurako a best yuru.
not sure how i forgot this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joVkx20oVIg
>>55236386
>intellectual brilliance
>Tchaikovsky
Kek
>>55236735
>>55236742
It's true. At least they hate the fags though.
>>55236866
random anon questioning one of the greatest composers ever, top keks
>>55236940
I wish he used more brass.
I'm a Holst man myself.
>>55236915
didnt stop them from electing a lesbian mayor
>it's 2015
>not knowing hit music is powered/controlled by demonic/satanic entities to entice and control the masses
C'mon people, I thought y'all were 'redpilled' and shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gB47gfqdieM
>>55236940
He made beautiful music and was quite possibly the greatest melodist to have ever live, but I wouldn't refer to his music as intellectually brilliant.
>>55237104
Yup, three times. And not a single time did she get more than 100K votes.
>>55237280
christ, people really dont vote in local elections.
>>55237280
>>55237352
on the bright side, at least i live in sugar land so she doesn't effect me much
>>55236315
Here's some more mirror test results from Africa if you were interested
I kind of like the authors' rationalization, it's pretty funny
>muh culture
every time
>>55237352
Hey now, voter turnout jumped from 7% in 2013 to 10% this year.
>>55237473
Hey, me too! Let's never meet though.
>>55237527
i like how they have to make up cultural explanations for why blacks are retarded
i also like how the explanation doesnt really help.
>no you see, they just created a culture that values human life and individuality so little that these little niglets don't realize that they aren't part of a hive mind.
>>5522689
most retarded post of the year
>>55226894
based moog
>>55226146
Makes me wonder why modern nigger music is so shit.
Also makes me feel sad how blacks have fucked up so horribly, with some "help" in form of affirmative action and waving racism card.
FUCK YOU, NIGGERS! YOU USED TO MAKE GOOD AND GROOVY MUSIC, NOT THIS RAP AND MODERN RNB SHIT!
YOU INVENTED THEM AND MANAGED TO FUCKING RUIN THEM!
YOU FUCKING KILLED YOUR OWN CULTURAL CHILD!
>>55226146
>Some caveshit picks up a shell before modern man and blows in it.
>ZOMG all your music exist because some caveman blew into a shell you bunch of HOMO sapiens are just cultural appropriators.
Boony tunes, suck!
>>55226146
>every track now has a rap verse
>>55239830
CAN'T WAKE UP
