Why do right wing faggots always align themselves with being Christian /pol/?
>>55214086
Because Christianity is the largest, most influential religion today. If Paganism or Hinduisim held that place instead, they would pander to Pagans or Hindus. Essentially, they're corrupt.
>>55214086
Jesus wanted CHARITY
not forced taxes you fuck.
>>55214086
can somebody post the unedited one?
>>55214086
Because taxation is theft, not charity.
>>55214441
It's amazing how often they confuse charity and asceticism with socialism.
Looks like Horsey has never read Oscar Wilde.
>>55214086
Socialism only works if God is there in the flesh to bend reality and make impossible things possible. Even then there will be people who mumble and plot against Him for their own gain.
>>55214213
Ah, I see your flag so I can understand what you don't get about Red-blooded American Conservative culture.
Conservatism is just that, conservative. A.k.a keep shit from the past. Guess what America has been since it was fucking invented? Hell pilgrims and shit came over seeking religious freedom.
So if you want to keep things how they were in America, you automatically want to have morals from the 40's and 50's. Where white religion (A.k.a Christianity) held extremely strong influence.
I mean yeah all the establishment are corrupt but America wasn't built on Buddhist morals or Lolpagan morals. So even if there was a sudden huge boom in Buddhists the main staple of the Religious Right would be christians.
>>55214086
Stop posting the same fucking threads every day you faggot.
>>55215075
Go outside and suck a dick faggot
Christianity is a liberal religion. Liberals today are so Christian they've become atheists becaus ethey believe they're even more holy than Jesus.
>>55214441
RENDER UNTO CAESAR
Because they've swallowed the kike agenda of weak government like it's a black man's load. So much so that they even worship their god.
>>55214086
i don't senpai, i recognize how Christianity played a big role in shaping the western world and leave it at that
>>55214086
*Tips Fedora*
>>55214086
Does it make me Christian if I do not believe in the abrahamic religions' concept of God, and don't think Jesus is a God, but think Jesus was pretty badass if he managed to wake up from pallor mortis and walk out of the tomb after being crucified? And for thinking that what was described at the end of the apocryphal but very old document called the gospel of st peter, of them going to the tomb and the guard telling them that Jesus had gotten up and left, might have happened for all I know? (apparently, there are modern-day accounts of people waking up from the dead, within hours of being medically pronounced dead due to cessation of vital functions and pallor mortis (the very first stage of death) setting in)
Because I don't think I'm Christian, but I like to be honest with myself if I think something is actually pretty badass.
>>55214441
Jesus was pro-taxes
You don't have to support taking and distributing property by force to give all you have to the poor, so it's still not following teachings of Christ.
every party is un-Christian, but at least the bleeding heart liberals have kinder motives
>>55218405
>You don't have to support taking and distributing property by force to give all you have to the poor
So how will collect taxes at all? It sounds like you're pro-funding the state by charity.
>>55218320
Strictly speaking a Christian is a follower of Christ, if you follow the teachings of Jesus than that's enough.
although like all words, the definitions been twisted by culture. Many Christians don't even read/know his teachings, virtually none even tries to follow all his teachings (like giving all you property to the poor for example).
>>55214086
jesus talks about being charitable, not welfare.
>>55214086
Not all right wingers align themselves with Christian sheeple.
This fucking meme again.
>le rich man passing through the eye of a needle
Jesus wasn't saying that the rich and affluent are inherently evil or wrong. He was only saying that so much money and material success increases the chance of going astray from God and choosing material possessions of Earth instead.
Jesus was not a socialist. Forced giving is not "charity."
>>55217350
>fake christian gets called out
>*TIBS FEDORA* xD
>>55214086
That's one of the ways you know Jesus is a false prophet and not the one to trust, a good tree bears not bad fruit
>>55214086
>Jesus was a socialist
>Bernie Sanders is a carpenter
This is my favorite new meme.
>>55214441
He was humanitarian, but got duped by a lot of people.
>>55218911
As if you should base your whole judgment on a political cartoon.
>>55218611
funding the sate by charity implies you pay however much you need, but taxes have a minimum you have to pay.
when asked whether they should pay Caesar's taxes, Jesus said yes.
So in a Christian nation the state would collect taxes as normal, but everyone who isn't poor would have already given everything to the poor anyway.
If everyone keeps given everything to the poor, everyone would more or less have the same amount, the state or some other countrywide administrative agency would be needed to carry this out.
so it's pretty close to communism
>>55218904
Is that what you tell yourself at night before you goto bed conservakek?
Right wing faggot here, not Christian, but am pro life
>>55218405
>>55215715
Jesus wasn't pro-taxes he was indifferent.
He never said render unto Caesar that which is Caesars because he can spend it better than you and help more people than you. He said render unto Caesar that which is Caesars and render unto God that which is Gods. His whole argument was don't even worry about money or government because He will protect and provide for you not the government.
>>55219719
when asked if they should pay taxes, Jesus first called them hypocrites, and then asked one of them to produce a Roman coin that would be suitable for paying Caesar's tax. One of them showed him a Roman coin, and he asked them whose head and inscription were on it. They answered, "Caesar's," and he responded: "Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's".
that's not indifference
it's not because he thinks Caesar can spend the money better, but it's clear he thinks you should pay taxes
his reason for why you should pay taxes can be applied to any government whose authority backs the value of the taxed currency
in a democratic country, the government or treasury takes the place of Caesar
>>55220355
Exactly government prints the money so government can take the money it's theirs to do with as they please
Tradition is tied heavily into Christian values, most of /pol/ falsely equates Christianity as a belief system with traditionalism. Also, you're a nigger and a faggot.
>>55219414
>pro life
literally fucking retards
>>55221352
so don't call yourself a christian if you don't even appreciate the message
"Blessed are the poor for theirs is the kingdom of heaven"
To hell with the poor let them rot its their own god damn fault anyway I ain't giving my hard earn money away
-Average American
Kekservatives, how does it feel to betray Jesus Christ every day?
>>55221272
The way I interpret it, the only way out is to use a different currency, if you don't benefit from the ease of commerce provided by authority back currency, you don't have to payit taxes.
but that's moot anyway since in a Christian nation everyone will give all their property to the poor, with fast enough distribution and good enough management, everyone will have around the same.
traditional capitalism will be hard since you'll need more investors to get enough capitol, and there's no personal incentive.
the only incentive is to make money for the collective
not just the workers control the method of production, but everyone would have equal share in everything (whether through collectivism or a more roundabout way)
>>55218405
>>55219107
>>55220355
>>55222008
The whole "give to Caesar what is his, and give to God what is His" was more about not rebelling against an earthly power than about taxes.
Not paying the Roman tribute/tax was to rebel against the authority of Rome. Jesus didn't want to have an army of Zealots behind him while He was teaching, nor did He want to give the Zealots reason to kill Him, so he said "don't rebel, but still obey God"
>>55221816
I don't mate, I was simply pointing out the Yanks obsession with Christendom. I personally think it does nothing but weaken our nations.
We already are giving money to the poor, charity exists.
>>55222420
Cheers mate agreed
Daily reminder that every socialist society has rejected Jesus.
>>55222340
I don't get the point, wouldn't that apply to paying taxes in the modern world as well?
Unless you mean it's OK to make/change policy to abolish taxes, which I'm not arguing against
Although that would make government functions near impossible
But taxe policy wouldn't even matter in a Christian nation anyway, due to the wealth redistribution I mentioned
>>55222420
>weaken our nations
What?
The more secular western nations have become, the less powerful and stable they've become in turn.
>>55223027
I'm telling you that you're completely missing the point.
Jesus wasn't teaching about taxes in that episode. He was teaching about obeying God and trying to "live a quiet life, minding your own business".
>>55223303
So basically listen to people more powerful than you?
Seems fairly pragmatic.
>>55214086
Christian values align with conservative values for the most part.
I'm extremely conservative but not a Christian
>>55214086
I'm fiscally conservative, but socially liberal.
I guess that makes me mostly libertarian, never mind.
>http://www.sciencealert.com/study-finds-religion-actually-tends-to-make-kids-less-generous
There is more evidence that religion makes you LESS generous, and that nonreligious people are typically more altruistic than there is for the other way around.
>>55223619
>>55223567
>sciencealert
I'm sure this is an organization with no reason whatsoever to paint religious people as worse than nonreligious people.
>>55222340
The bullshit that Christians go through to interpret their religion through their existing political lens is amazing.
>>55214086
>>55214086
Why do you post this thread every day?
>>55224039
literally what
How is "live a quite life and work hard" political at all?
>>55223027
The point is that paying taxes was a part of the Roman government, and not to disobey your government's laws (except when its laws conflict with your faith)
If the Roman government did not take taxes, Jesus' point would still stand.
So, system of government does not matter to Christianity
>>55224039
Except you dumbass that's literally the interpretation of the passage and has been.
The Pharisees wanted to have Jesus arrested so they wanted to frame him as a rebel rouser. Instead he took it as an opportunity to teach that yes, you can still obey the law and be faithful to God.
>>55214086
>Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.
>>55223867
well congrats on being wrong. maybe if you read it you would have seen their testing method was completely valid.
>>55214086
Liberalism means pushing anti-christian ideology
>trans acceptance
>homosexuality
>3rd wave feminism
>atheism
etc.
Also considering Horsey's cartoon
>1 Corinthians 13:1 If I speak in the tongues of men or of angels, but do not have love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
There is no love in the welfare systems the liberals propose, hence why they are termed "entitlements". Taking income from others under the threat of the law and redistributing it isn't Christian, the act of wealth equality isn't Christian, the act of charitably giving in love, which is the important part, is.
Not saying that Republicans meet that point, but liberals profess that they do when they do not.
>>55215715
Since when are the people of the United States on the Federal Reserve notes?
Feels good to be a conservative atheist so this "WWJD" argument doesn't apply to me.
I'm also a spic, so that helps me when I'm praising our Lord Trump in an IRL argument (if I ever were to get in one).
>>55224525
so conservative ideal of "fuck you i've got mine" are pro christian ideals?
what about of seeing races as lesser? The death penalty?
>>55224207
>>55224348
You could just as easily interpret it to mean that paying taxes was just and right, as all the kings that ruled through divine right. Even easier, as it doesn't require speculating on Jesus's motives.
You are taking a position and only then trying to find a justification for it.
>>55225123
Basically. Also that part about the rich man getting into heaven and the eye of the camel meant that, since the rich would be embarrassed by entering the same gate as the commoners and would seem like hell, so they should get their own gates to pass through.
Not even liberal. But the religious right jumps through as many mental hoops as the post-modern left does. Both leftist and kike-god worshipers are degenerates.
>>55225123
They pick and choose what they want from the Bible but the must utterly stupid thing about them is that they hardly ever follow the teachings of their Lord Jesus Christ and choose other bits from the Bible to back up their points
>Stone gays
>Whoever is without sin should cast the first stone
Choose one, choose Jesus not the rest of that nonesense written in the Bible
>>55225237
>You could just as easily interpret it to mean that paying taxes was just and right, as all the kings that ruled through divine right.
Do you think "interpret" means "ignore all context and make shit up?"
I'm not even Christian and I can tell you're a retard.
>>55225598
isnt that 'stone the gays' bit written in the same part of the bible that has a bunch of ridiculous commandments? like not eating shellfish and shit?
>>55225903
Yeah, it's in Leviticus, which pretty much only hardcore jews obey in full.
>>55225760
Not at all.
His answer to the question "Should we pay taxes?" is not just a "yes" or even "Yeah, because if you don't the Roman's will kill you". It's "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, render unto God what is God's". That last part clearly sets up the context of the answer as a moral one. God doesn't need anything, and he rarely kills you just because you forgot to tithe.You the tithe to him because it is right.
What context could lead to any other interpretation?
It brings to mind a Catholic friend of mine who haaaaaates this new pope because he is too liberal for her. Someone asked her about Jesus's associate with the poor, and she launched into a rant about how he was teaching them to better themselves, and he only did miracles for them to show off and get them to believe, not because they deserved it.
>>55218405
After you're done blowing your prime minister, read a fucking book
>>55214086
Atheist but I (mostly) support Christianity in America. The growing secular movement has proven that the majority of people are too stupid and too morally corrupt to successfully run a country without values being taught to them. It's honestly very unfortunate. Christianity is relatively benign compared to other religions (Islam) so having people grow up with that will be better for the country. Basically I support Christianity as a way to brainwash idiots and degenerates into decent productive members of society
>>55226163
>Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's
The context actually does change this part a bit. I think you're on the spot for the "god" part, but the Caesar part comes after showing them the face on the coin, i.e. that the coin, bearing Caesar's face, is his anyways. If he wants it back, it should be given back.
In a similar way, modern banknotes have the signature of the central bank. If it wants it back, it should be given back.
>he only did miracles for them to show off and get them to believe, not because they deserved it.
I'd argue it's neither. The miracles usually were based on need, not showing off, and deserving really did play no role whatsoever in it (it would be an odd break with the whole "we're all equally sinners before god" thing anyways).
>>55222946
Underrated
