How do Americans feel about the war of 1812?
More specifically, how do Americans feel about the burning of Washington?
How do they feel about the fact they were beaten by Canadian soldiers?
>How do they feel about the fact they were beaten by Canadian soldiers?
The PM of Canada still has to answer to the Queen.. and have foreign leaders on their money. Stop pretending it wasn't a foreign power that waged the war.
>>55204087
Insurance fire. Get the British to do it so it's not arson. Collect double indemnity because it's both an office building and a residence.
I didn't spend a whole lot of time learning about it in school. Doesn't bother me at all. I don't think about it at all unless it specifically gets brought up on placed like /pol/. Otherwise, I wouldn't even need to acknowledge it, to be honest.
>>55204087
I for one fucking love it; but that may be because my ancestors were on the winning side of that war, and also the ones who burnt down the Shit House.
>>55204087
We don't care. We recovered. We're friends with Canada now.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO 1812 LOYALISTS FOREVER
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
PSEUDO-REPUBLICAN TRAITORS BELOW THIS LINE
IF YOU SEE ANY CITIZEN OF A REBELLIOUS COLONY POSTING BELOW THIS LINE, ASK THEM "WHY DO YOU LET LOBBYISTS RUN YOUR COUNTRY"
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>>55204087
From what I learnt the War of 1812 was instigated by the United States.
Who cares anyway, essentially the American Revolution was a civil war. The Anglosphere will rise again once Obama goes to be the dominant world power.
So looks like we will be liberating Canada.
>>55204277
Exactly this.
>>55204087
how do brazilians feel about living in brazil?
>>55204087
>Beaten
It was a tie.
>>55204383
I'm pretty proud of my country man.
I don't think anyone cares. We don't get taught it over here and I doubt the US would teach anything other than absolute victory.
>>55204087
I think we should thank andrew jackson
>merely a march
the Canadians sure showed you desu famalam
>>55204315
>We're friends with Canada now.
For now.
>>55204485
That's right buddy.
>>55204277
Basically, America got fucked by Canucks and Britbongs.
We burnt down your White House and forced you to sign a peace treaty - like the Treaty of Versailles.
However, we only asked for everything to be 'status quo ante bellum' because we couldn't ask for land, since Russia and Germany were asking for land in reward for beating Napoleon and we kept telling them no: we'd look hypocritical taking land off America but not allowing Germany and Russia to take land from Europe.
In short, because it was 'status quo ante bellum ' some retarded Amerikeks think the war was a stalemate, despite us 420 blazing your Shit House.
Also you did a pretty cool win in the Battle of New Orleans. I'll give you that.
>>55204087
Britain should have been able to ROFLstomp America. The fact the didn't is proof that America is the greatest nation ever.
>>55204432
You poor thing.
>>55204087
>Canada, founded in 1867, fought America in 1812
>Common Core History
I see the Public Edjewcation system is working just as well down there as it is here.
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>>55204087
>How do Americans feel about the war of 1812?
No one cares. So long ago. Granted, we did get a decent anthem out of it.
>More specifically, how do Americans feel about the burning of Washington?
If only the Canadians could do it again...
>How do they feel about the fact they were beaten by Canadian soldiers?
Does it fucking matter? Canada is being taken over by the Chinese and the US is being taken over by Mexico. The USA and Canada won't exist in 100 years anyway.
>>55204485
Don't get tricky on me.
>>55204574
This perspective makes sense. It fits the American logic.
>>55204485
Just remember who buys all your candles, friend.
(I especially like those 10 cent ones, those last really long for being so small)
>>55204087
>How do Americans feel about the war of 1812?
Justification to actively commit to a war with England and sink every fucking merchant ship and war tub they had but we were underfunded and still lacking manpower
>More specifically, how do Americans feel about the burning of Washington?
Wasn't very important if you ask me since I don't respect the faggot that was president when it happened
>How do they feel about the fact they were beaten by Canadian soldiers?
They were British soldiers sent down from Canada lel get your facts straight
>>55204432
Oh bless your heart.
>>55204087
Not discussed in school. It would threaten the story of muh 1776 and muh freedom when in actuality we lost nearly every battle and a few short years of "freedom" later the Brits who never fucking left our shore burned the Whitehouse to the ground to remnd us just how free we really are.
Why do we constantly talk about the past, i mean come on it's 2015
>>55204306
Still jelly that we brought your empire to its knees old bean?
>>55204485
We will annex Canada once fresh water becomes an issue. Don't fucking pretend like that won't happen.
It wasn't all the US. just some of their retarded militias going rogue.
America shouldn't feel anything, because it wasn't America that was involved, just some fuckwits who happened to be American.
The states that started that shit and then failed so completely are the ones who should be ashamed.
And some of the state militias got bodied hard by bands of our natives. lol.
>>55204315
>We're friends with Canada now.
That will likely change soon.
>>55204647
>Not respecting James Madison
Fuckin faggot
>>55204423
>>Beaten
See
>>55204562
Yes, we couldn't impose much from you, without looking hypocritical: Russians and Germans are the only reason you didn't lose land.
Also, we were in a position to decide the fate of your infantile nation because we burnt down your governmental building. It's like the American army conquering London, obviously that would mean you conquered Britain.
>Inb4 'We won the Battle of New Orleans' because that happened after the peace treaty was signed.
We won that war because you failed at annexing Canada, but we succeeded at burning down the Shit House. There was no stalemate.
>>55204671
and then they left
>>55204562
to be fair they also burned down a similar house in canada
the Canadians still blew the yanks out though, based leafbros
>>55204574
you are confusing the inability to destroy USA with the unwillingness to do so
still, 1812 was essentially a draw anyway, in fact it was a stupid pointless war to begin with
and I'm glad that the USA remained independent and developed along its own lines
God damn everyone is so obsessed with the past
>dumb anglos still trying to cling to their old glory
>wall builders still mad about getting rekt in the 1840s
>injuns still mad about the injun wars
>>55204335
why do lobbyists run this land, because jews, that's why.
White House is still there. Did we lose or something? Is that your flag on the moon? I can't remember.
>>55204087
None of us actually care.
>>55204719
The only thing I'm jelly about is Eisenhower being a prick (but justifiably, in a way... I guess) with the Suez Canal Crisis.
In no way did you give independence to those colonies. Those Colonies gained independence from us because we were fucked economically after WWII.
If anyone bought our Empire to the ground, it was Hitler and Churchill.
>>55204087
>How do Americans feel about the war of 1812?
It made a lot of money for the banker families that funded both sides.
We don't really care. We became the strongest nation the world has ever seen and some building burning down had no affect on that. Lesser nations that feel inferior (they are inferior) like to point out negligible things that happened hundreds of years ago because they haven't done anything relevant since then.
>>55204905
Where's your Empire? I can't seem to find it.
Inb4 the moon's our empire because it has our flag on it.
I would like to see Americans try and administer the Ayy Lmaos on the moon without being bitten.
>>55204905
>muh moon
I was waiting for this
>>55204615
> decent anthem
You'll appreciate how great an anthem it really is once you realize that the last line is a rhetorical question/threat.
> you're god damn right it does, and always will
>>55204954
It's like people fans of sports teams going "w...we won that burbon bowl in 1965!"
>>55204087
Can they do it a second time?
>>55204954
Please, don't use the WWW (4chan as well) if you think that.
>>55204087
Goes against the American hoorah narrative my southern friend. If I remember correctly my history book contained half a page about it?
Mid-20s now so lord knows what they tell kids nowadays.
>>55204087
Honestly it's barely even mentioned in our schooling. If you ask the average American about it he won't have a clue what you're talking about.
I personally think it's interesting. When I found out some syrup niggers were able to burn down the white house it was pretty amazing to me, considering how irrelevant they are nowadays.
>>55204954
well said
people need to stop living in the past in general to be honest, it serves no purpose other than stirring up pointless animosity
>>55204087
Blew the fuck out of the "great" britain navy in the lakes, feels good man.
>>55204087
>It was the British!
The British where fucking fighting Napoleon in Europe at the time this was going on, that's why the US thought it was a good time to instigate a war. The war was largely fought by locally stationed troops and a large tribal confederacy lead by Tecumseh. The British, who were preoccupied by Napoleon's challenge in Europe, paid little attention to what was to them a peripheral and secondary dispute and didn't contribute much at all.
During the 19th century the popular image of the war in the United States was of an American victory, and in Canada, of a Canadian victory. The US, however, lost more men and had their fucking capital sacked. It's not taught in the US for propaganda purposes. I mean, who loses to Canada?
>>55205114
you were still a colony.... in some respects, still are a colony of the Brits.
>>55204839
I know about that, but Canada wasn't expecting that, nor was it prepared for it.
USA on the other hand were.
Also, it wasn't a draw unless you believe those old, retarded American lies.
>>55204087
You do realize Winfield Scott spent all of 1814 stomping your syrup nigger ass all over your pathetic country. We only left after realizing that your country sucks during the winter.
And as for 1815, well you know how that went for you, right?
Pic related.
>The only true losers in the War of 1812 were the Indians
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>>55204087
Neither America or Canada likes to talk about it, due to it ending as a tie.
>>55205103
That, and the Battle of New Orleans, was actually commendable. The rest you lost.
>>55205114
All Canadian military doctrine against the US is the following:
cockblock them as long as possible till the Brits come and save your ass
That's it. This is what you did. Fuck off.
>>55204442
That's pretty much the truth. I've noticed between my early years of being taught history (early 1980's elementary) and my son's differ quite a bit. Mine was taught that is was more of an act of sabotage and a skirmish than a war. My son's (early 2000s) it gets barely a mention. Less than a sentance and nothing on a test about it.
Basically if it's not a win we make it look like a draw or delete it
>>55205239
>british ships are no longer in the lakes
>the white house still stands
heart wrenching lost family lmao
>>55205246
> till the Brits come and save your ass
See: Napoleon
>>55205155
Lol. How come your White House became as burnt as your president?
feelsgoodman
Burn it down again and you'll be doing the fatties a favour.
>>55205290
Do you still have helicopters in Vietnam?
Blue angels still flying. We lost a war?
>>55205171
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ontario_Legislative_Building#History
>The relocation to York did not ensure the protection of the capital, however, and the Palace of Parliament was destroyed by fire on 27 April 1813, as a consequence of an attack on the city in the War of 1812.
Yeah, we burned Ontario's legislature to the ground too. Deal w/it.
>>55204087
nothing at all.
Have you guys seen Star Wars Episode V The Empire Strikes Back? Because that is what the War of 1812 was.
>>55205302
I fail to see how this rejects my point? Are we forgetting that England was an empire at the time?
>>55205454
A white empire vs multicultural space faggots? Fair enough.
>>55205367
close enough
>>55204839
>unwillingness to do so
sure m8
>We were only pretending!
We should have allied with Napoleon and liberated the world
These are my thoughts on the subject
>>55205367
They were replaced with sweat shops, hows Hong Kong going now a days?
Don't really care too much about it.
A fucking tornado hit DC and the weather made a largely demoralized British army leave the city early, and Jackson somehow took New Orleans against all odds, giving him a solid foot to stand on when he ran for president.
Canadians somehow take the credit for it even though the concept of Canada as a single unified nation didn't exist yet.
All about perspective
>>55204087
War with Britain 2: Electric Bungaloo. Like all sequels, it sucked, but the Canucks like to romanticize it.
>>55204087
>How do Americans feel about the war of 1812?
Well, as much of a mistake it was, we got the Star-Spangled Banner, Andrew Jackson's fame, and reaffirmed that we're no longer British colonies
>More specifically, how do Americans feel about the burning of Washington?
No one talks about it desu, but it was payback for burning Toronto, so wv
>How do they feel about the fact they were beaten by Canadian soldiers?
>
>>55204087
We don't.
>>55205562
Rebelling against the Chinks.
>>55205544
>Napoleon wins
>North Africa and the Middle East are forced to secularize
>Europe unified
>Jews persecuted and Rothschilds bankrupt
>Britain crying about its lost empire
>France and the USA split Latin America
>Entire Portuguese population exiled to Brazil
It would have been beautiful.
>>55205408
>Implying Canadians know their own history
You give them way too much credit bro
>>55205713
God it will be glorious when NATO lands on mainland Red China after we have nuked them.
>>55205807
Indeed, Brother.
But, let's leave nuking to another day. I would much rather have a habitable China than a - well - dead one.
>>55204087
If you entered conversation the right way, you'd find that less than half of Americans even realize the White House was burned or that we had more than one war with Britain.
They do teach it in public schools but it seems that most manage to not absorb even these two must cursory facts.
>>55204087
Most of them don't even know or care it ever happened
>>55205713
Same with Vietnam
Yep. That looks like a defeated country right there.
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>>55204087
Canada did not burn down the White House in 1814 because Canada wasn't "Canada" until 1867.
>>55204087
I wouldn't mind an encore right about now.
>>55204087
I don't get it, I thought it was the brits and british soldiers? Canada didn't exist till 1867 so technically canadians didn't exist when the white house was burned down
>>55205958
Sweat shops are rebelling against Vietnam or are helicopters rebelling against Vietnam?
>>55205114
I went to public school and we were taught that the war was effectively a stalemate.
go back to google and wikipedia.
>>55204214
>>55204266
This is a myth, the soldiers who burnt down the White House were British, though there may have been some Canadians among their ranks.
Canadians did fight Americans in a few battles during this war.
>>55206033
Vietnam rebelling against chinks
>>55204371
Wrong. Instigated by impressed sailors from the atlantic. Oddly enough we alost went to war with France instead of England at the time due to France taking more sailors prisoner than England at the time.
>>55206042
>Go to American School
>American Education System doesn't like talking about America losing wars
>Compromise the War of 1812 - an important war for America - and call it a stalemate.
>>55206065
>>55206015
This is 100% correct.
Canadians really need to stop talking like this is something we have over the USA .
The UK burnt down the white house, not Canada
>beaten by Canadian soldiers
The soldiers were British, not Canadian. Even considering Canada as British, no regiments from Canada took place in the battle.
Besides, Canada should be ashamed of itself for willfully owing its allegiance to obsolete, foreign monarchs.
>>55205739
Too bad. The last remnant of our empire is a group of parasites that will bleed your nation dry. Millions of you fat arses will die.
>>55206078
Kek. Everyone hates the scheming, dirty noodles.
Except us. For shame!
>>55204087
>beaten by Canadian soldiers
It was British soldiers, faggot. Canadians weren't even involved in the war of 1812 other than providing food and shelter to the English muffins who were stationed there.
>>55206124
Monarchs are based, though.
You should try them some time.
>>55206124
>willfully owing its allegiance to obsolete, foreign monarchs.
We still do.
Friendly reminder Canada will choose the UK over the USA
You guys are our friends, but the UK is our family.
>>55204214
No, the governor general answers to the Queen. It's almost entirely symbolic.
>>55204087
The Burning of Washington was in revenge for the Burning of York, that is, the actual capital of Canada at the time. The White House wasn't even finished when the Canadians burned it down.
>>55206159
>English muffins
Ok, I admit, I laughed.
>>55206242
>Independent in 1778.
>White House not even complete after 1812.
>That's a whole 34 years of being a country.
Did you have spics building your White House?
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Canada!
Canada!
Canada!
Our PM can take your obama with one punch.
Does Obama even lift, or box?
In fact, only Trump, or Putin could beat our PM in boxing match.
His body is made of iron!
You jelly of his body burger bros?
>>55206234
It's "almost entirely symbolic" until it isn't.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1975_Australian_constitutional_crisis
>>55206166
We did.
>>55206116
I said MAY have been some Canadians. Considering Canada didn't really exist at the time and the British conscripted soldiers from all over the empire, there quite possibly was a little Ottowan with a torch fuckin up the presidential mansion you fuckin monkey ass nigger, fuck you.
>>55206307
hot damn what a alpha beast.
Obongo screaming like alittle girl.
>>55206349
You didn't.
Inb4 1777.
>>55204087
>itt: keks reminiscing the times when they were still nations
Sorry we gutted your queen's power and turned her into something lower than a meme. Sorry you have not been relevant in world politics since WW2, when the world realized you were immeasurable pussies and you effectively lost control of your entire empire.
I would still be talking about 200 year old wars too if I was an inbeed anglo living in a caliphate.
>>55206309
>says PM of Canada still has to answer to the Queen (which is wrong)
>resorts to posting something from 1975 that happened in Australia
The Queen has next to no political power in Canada.
>>55206409
A Brazilian is OP, not a Briton.
Also, we are part of the G8, and we are number 1 in soft power.
>>55206065
That's like saying it was Brits vs. Brits during the American revolution because America didn't technically exist yet.
>>55206462
The Queen exercises next to no political power in Canada, but you're retarded if you think the Queen doesn't have any.
No one cares about that war, it's basically been turned into a joke. Anyone who brings it up is looked at as either a nerd or an old history teacher.
>>55206409
>I would still be talking about 200 year old wars too
The Civil War is almost 200 years old and Americans still haven't shut up about it.
Hell you even had to take down a flag because people are still upset about that conflict
No one gives a fuck about 1812. The brits invaded, we kicked their sorry asses out. end of story.
Sure, they burned down the crappy prototype version of the white house. No one here really cared though because we had tons of enslaved niggers to rebuild it.
At the treaty of Ghent the brits wanted to end the war Uti possidetis but we just laughed and said "fuck you give us Canada then!"
They walked away with their tail between their legs having accomplished jack shit and we went on with our lives.
Kicked ass and now I don't care about it. No one even lived in the White House at the time but we did burn down your moose hut. It was British troops from Yorkshire England that burned our building down anyway, apparently.
Canada is terrible.
>>55206571
>but you're retarded if you think the Queen doesn't have any
She actually doesn't other than the fact her opinion might hold some weight for some people.
When it comes to Government rankings, the Queen has say in what the Prime Minister does.
>>55206491
but it was....british rebels in america, who later turned into americans.
so....americans today have nothing over us as it was the brits who could only defeat fellow brits.
huzzah we once again prove undefeated by others.
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.
>>55206641
>the Queen has very little say in what the Prime Minister does
Fixed.
>>55206401
We really really did.
>>55206683
As an American I agree actually. The rebels were still British rebels until the country gained actual independence.
>>55206102
>britbongs have to give up on indian raids
>britbongs have to give up all of the territory they conquered
>britbongs forced to pressing US sailors into royal navy service
>britbongs coincidentally lose a major battle right before they agree to all of this
>The British had used their victories at the Battle of Bladensburg and the Burning of Washington to counter any American demands during the peace negotiations up to this point, despite the Americans' successful defense at the Battle of Baltimore in the days after this battle, and which ended British activities in the Mid-Atlantic region. American negotiators used the repulse at Plattsburgh to demand exclusive rights to Lake Champlain and denied Britain's claim of exclusive rights to the Great Lakes. Thus, American actions at Plattsburgh and Baltimore denied the British any advantage they could use to make demands for territorial gains in the Treaty of Ghent.
Yeah, you sure beat us kek
>>55205015
>over 900 bases in roughly 160 countries...
Hmmm, you blind bro?
>>55206491
>>55206683
Except Americans declared independence before the revolution. It would have been considered a Brit vs Brit war had the British won.
Like how the US Civil War is known as such only because the Union won. It would have been the Confederate war of independence had the Confederacy won.
>>55206307
dont blame me I voted for Johnson
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>>55206683
My point is you little shits would never call Washington or Jefferson "British", for example.
Those "British" soldiers who burned down the White House in 1812 became Canadians.
>>55205171
thanks
>>55206972
They were British you buffoon. That's why the Constitution extends eligibility to the office of the Presidency to all citizens of the US at the signing IN ADDITION to natural born US citizens.
>>55206972
>The official Canadian position (as outlined in their citizenship study guide) is "In 1814, Major-General Robert Ross led an expedition from Nova Scotia that burned down the White House and other public buildings in Washington DC."
But notice the ambiguously worded "expedition from Nova Scotia", it can be interpreted in two ways, one that the expedition was comprised of soldiers from Nova Scotia, the other that the expedition merely disembarked from Nova Scotia.
>Upon further research, its clear that the second interpretation is clearly the case, although the wording is deliberately vague to allow for people to mistakenly assume the first interpretation, for what I assume would be for Canadian national pride reasons.
>From the British Dictionary of National Biography's entry on Robert Ross, the commanding general of the force that burnt the White House.
>>55205171
do cankeks really think this triggers us? the fact that America is still hear and is a major super power is proof Canada (aka the Queen) failed
>>55206972
>Those "British" soldiers who burned down the White House in 1812 became Canadians.
No they didn't. They went back to Britain and lived as Brits.
No regiments from Canadian lands took place in that battle. They weren't even near.
Yanks are just gonna tell you it wasn't Canada and that it was the British because they can't stand the idea of getting rekt by a bunch of crazy fucking canucks.
Their argument of course makes no sense because according to their logic they were technically British during the revolutionary war.
The Canadian identity supersedes confederation and a majority of white Canadians with blood from the isles claim descent from men who were around during 1812. The only different was the culture that changed. The blood remained the same.
>>55204087
We don't give two shits about something that's completely irrelevant now. Happened over 200 years ago.
>>55207143
>The war was hardly at an end when the British government made arrangements to send four brigades of infantry from Wellington's army to America; three of them to Canada, and one as an expeditionary force against the coasts of the United States. Ross was selected for the command of the latter, and embarked with it on 1 June 1814.
>It consisted of three battalions, to which a fourth was added at Bermuda, bringing up the strength to 3,400 men.
>Given that the preceding paragraph talks about Ross' involvement in the Peninsular war, it's clear that those brigades from Wellington's army were being sent from Spain.
>Also, given the professional nature of a British expeditionary force, it is extremely unlikely it being comprised solely or even mostly of Canadians, though this does not preclude the possibility there were some Canadians in the force. However, if it was viewed as a Canadian unit, it would've most likely been cited in the record, because it would've been noteworthy with regards to its unusualness, and the relevance of their unit's home location to the ongoing conflict.
>The fact of the matter is, they were British troops, many of which had come freshly from the Spanish peninsular war, and had been fighting in Europe for the past few years.
>So in short, it was the British who burnt down the White House, not the Canadians.
And my rebuttal to Canadians who cite this claim, and defend it by saying "well Canada was a part of the British Empire back then", is to simply say:
>"Saying the Canadians burnt down the White House is as true as saying the Australians burnt down the White House, because they were both part of the British Empire."
Than again, yank pride is so fragile they think they won Vietnam.
>we got to moscow and burned down some buildings, therefore we win.
>>55207273
desu we won all the military conflicts and we had a KD score of 10:1 it was only when the commies cut defense spending to NV that the country fell
>>55206789
>Before
Battle of New Orleans happened after the peace treaty.
It's clear you know nothing about the war of 1812.
>Canadians have so little to be proud of that they mindlessly celebrate an event that they weren't even a part of
>>55207442
there was no twitter back then Ali it happened before news of the peace reached both sides
>>55206795
>Having a military base in a country means it's your colony.
Americans still trying to figure out how imperialism works, I see.
When you have administrative control of those nations, come speak to me again.
>>55207493
That's probably why it happened, but he said it came before the signing of the peace treaty, which is historically inaccurate.
Do canadians seriously not realize that they didn't burn down the white house? It was scottish troops. Try again maplefags.
>>55207202
>crazy fucking canucks
>>55207202
Arguing with an American is like arguing with a pigeon - or in this case an eagle.
I'm sure you know what happens next.
The point is Americans can't stand being wrong so they'll make up lies or contort the truth to fit their narrative.
In short, Americans are quite similar to Jews.
>>55204087
As I recall, God was not too happy about what the British did at the White House.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwOEMy5pg2g
>>55207341
>Burning White House
>Must be the same as burning down any old building.
The truth is we conquered Washington DC, and we only proved that by burning down it's heart (the White House).
>>55207491
At least our Nations leader is white
>>55207681
So says the man who is denying the records of his own country's armies to support his view.
>>55207754
He takes black cock tho
>>55207730
God doesn't hate or love nations; he hates and loves people.
Truth is, God loves Anglos the most and hates them the most.
We Anglos - American, British or Canadian- surely are God's Chosen People. And not the filthy Juden.
>>55207500
>Administrative control
Why would we care about that shit? We don't give an honest fuck about the inner workings of all those shithole countries as long as we get what's ours.
Planting our military there is all we need to do.
They weren't Canadian. They were Brits sent over from Bermuda.
>>55207202
Canadians are so insecure about their history they literally feature the burning white house in their citizenship pamphlets.
Pathetic as shit.
>>55207774
What are you talking about? I haven't denied anything.
>>55204087
It really prevents you from becoming the greatest nation in the history of the world when you get your white house burned down.
>>55207810
>americans
>anglos
Sure we speak English but we haven't been majority anglo (even of the white population) for a long long time.
>>55207832
In order to have an Empire you need to have administrative control of a country, save your own. Each country which you control - that is seperate to your own - is your colony.
Hawaii can be considered a colony, for example.
we won the war, so why would the white house burning even matter
>>55207565
damn man that's canada in a nutshell
>>55207929
Vast majority of whites in the United States are of German descent.
>>55204087
Canadians care more about it than Americans.
>>55207857
You're affirming the argument of a man who believes that Canadians teleported to Washington D.C. and then decided not to tell anybody about it.
>>55207563
>Canucks don't even know their own history
>>55207951
Won the war? That's even funnier than saying it was a stalemate.
>>55207500
I knew you were going to say that.
Of course it's not imperialistic. Still an empire, though.
If you think the American empire doesn't kick the shit out of Britain's nowadays then you are retarded. Wow, you have a few colonies? We still probably have more influence over them than Britain itself. The US can pretty much boss anyone around if it comes down to it (minus other major superpowers). If Britain tried that people would laugh.
>>55207993
Not that I can recall. If I did, then I'm wrong. British troops marched into Washington DC and burnt down your White House, all this in retaliation for America doing the same to Canada. That's the truth. Afterwards, we signed a peace treaty with us as the victors.
If you were the victors you would must surely have control of Canada.
See, you American lost. Is it so difficult to admit that you lost ONE war? I can admit Britain lost the Hundred Years' war.
>>55207936
According the old definition sure.
The thing is, times have changed and we make the rules now. We position our military globally and let all you cute little countries do your thing unless you piss us off.
That's how empires work in this day and age.
Oops! Did I pluralize 'empire'? I shouldn't have done that. There's only one. Ours.
>>55208002
>forfeit advantages and privileges held over an immensely weaker nation
>G-G-Guys we t-totally won because we j-just weren't really trying...
>>55205015
Also, where's yours? Kek.
>>55208142
The man that you responded to was arguing that it was Canadians who did it. You made yourself look dumb.
You also make yourself look dumb by suggesting that Americans "lost". What did we lose? What tangible asset did we lose? The war only resulted in profit for us.
>>55204087
>Canadian soldiers
>Canadian
Canada should stop taking credit for British accomplishments, they should just accept they are irrelevant beyond being a meme country.
>>55208002
heh heh okay mate
>>55208142
Wrong.
The British sued for uti possidetis at the treaty of Ghent. We laughed in your faces and said "not unless you give us Canada."
Obviously not willing to do that you capitulated and settled for status quo ante bellum. Essentially The war was a draw with slight edge to America for rejecting your terms and you accepting ours.
>>55208019
>America can boss anyone around.
No, they can't. People put the middle finger up at you fuckers. Can't you see that? The EU has openly gone against America before. This is why people hate you filthy, piggish Americans, because you think you're better than everyone, but in reality you're not. You twist the facts and you lie without honour. We hate you like we hate Jews: you both lack honour.
>American Empire
No such thing, really.
I know America likes to think that, but they still like to think they can "boss other countries around".
>Britain can't boss other nations around
I know. No one said that. At least we Britons do not wallow in lies and false-pride. At least we're sane. What we did say is that we beat you in the War of 1812, and some have expressed their disinterest - which is true for the majority of the population. You think the War of 1812 was the biggest war we ever won? No! The War of 1812 is only good for pissing off you fat lards, just as the American Revolution is good for pissing off his yellow-teethed Britbongs.
Basically, I love America, like a mother likes her child. And when a mother sees her child smoking and robbing people, she's going to be upset and frustrated. When we see you being complete pricks, we think 'this is not how we raised America; this is not what America truly is. Sure, it's powerful and strong, but being that is not all in life. There's more life than being the best in the class.'
Now, do you understand why many of us Britbongs act like this to you? I know I said we hate you, but that's most of the world, and sometimes us at times.
>>55208269
A collection of tax havens and strategic bases which we share with you brother.
>>55204277
I don't think about it until I buy something and the final price is $18.12. I'll say "Hey that was a war" and cashier has no clue what I'm talking about cause they're Indian most of the time
>>55208170
You don't make the rules. Literally, countries in Europe don't spend anything on the military, because you keks do the defence for us. Of course, that's wrong, but that's just an example of what those military bases do.
I still can't comprehend how that equates to you having an Empire. I mean, has superpower changed its definition, to someone who calls themselves a superpower. I can't even comprehend your retardation.
>>55208420
Sure, that's what happened. Keep on believing.
>>55204087
I personally don't care too much about a war from 200 years ago. I know the history of it and respect it as such.
The war ended with a draw and it was not a defeat or a victory. While it did not earn the U.S.A. the official safety on the seas, the issues pretty much disappeared after that. Yes, the British and their Canadian colony did burn down the White House. They also were defeated afterwards. Yes, the British did attack in the south and lost. Yes, the U.S.A. did attack in Canada and lost. The end result was a reformation of the U.S.A. military and a white peace.
>>55208726
But that's literally what happened. Are you denying that the Treaty of Ghent even happened?
Wow, British people are fucking mutts. You lack the physical ability to process shame.
>>55205752
I heard a few items were carried off as trophies. Wigs and a mace, as I heard it.
Then the Canadians suffered a huge defeat on the great lakes. Good times.
>>55208790
>white piece
anglos aren't white
>>55208270
I never agreed to him on that. The only times I mentioned Canada was as the landmass that you Americans invaded until you were repelled. And also I said canucks and Britbongs as an appeasement to our allies.
Also, you did lose anything materialistic (typical American always looking at the materialistic) you lost your military objective in annexing Canada, we stopped you from doing that. We succeeded in our military objective in preventing you from achieving yours, as well as burning down your White House.
We won because we achieved our military objectives; you lost because you failed your military objectives.
Based Andrew Jackson hears of the British attempt to take New Orleans.
Being busy will killing Injuns and rassling grizzly bears, he dispatchs an ultimatum to the people of New Orleans, by carrier pteradactyl, cuz pigeons are for pussies and Based Andrew Jackson only wrecks pussies.
> Defend New Orleans lest you want me to come down there and fuck everyone's shit up!
The 300 US Marines stationed in N.O. begin digging embattlements next thier own graves. They would rather die at the end of British muskets than to have Based Andrew Jackson rip out thier spinal column thru thier anus and beat them to death with it. The New Orleans Times publishes a warning to residents
>"Andrew Jackson finna roll up on herez if we donts stop da redcoats desu senpai baka"
1300 militia are raised in 24 hours. Residents are so scared that 500 slaves volunteer to fight rather than have Andrew "Injun Killing for a thrilling" Jackson show up. Slaves are told they will ve made to walk the Trail of Watermelon all the way back to Africa if Andy shows up.
The biggest surprise comes when Andrew Jackson sends word to Tortuga and Davy Jones Locker to mutherfucking pirates. He threatens them with death so painful and horrific that many anhero on the spot. They are to aid in the defense of New Orleans lest Jackson turns thier pirate bases to belong to him.
So 300 US Marines, and a couple of thousand residenrs slaves and fucking pirates, under threat of eternal death from.Andrew Jackson, fight off a British invasion 6x thier size, and kill 4000 limey redcoats in 5 days, including 3 generals.
We will never have another President as based as Andrew Jackson. ..
>>55208868
The Treaty of Ghent happened, but not in the way you thought it did.
"James Carr argues that Britain negotiated the Treaty of Ghent with the goal of ending the war, even though it knew a major British expedition had been ordered to seize New Orleans. Carr says that Britain had no intention of repudiating the treaty and continuing the war had victory been theirs at the Battle of New Orleans." t. Wikipedia
>>55209010
You didn't achieve your military objective of taking U.S. lands. Both sides tried to invade and ultimately failed.
I-IT WAS THE BRITISH NOT THE CANADIANS
WE DIDNT EVEN TRY LOL
IT HAPPENED SO LONG AGO LIKE WHO CARES LOL
>muh moon flag
>muh patriotism
Dumb Amerikeks cant admit they lost a war lmao
>>55209063
I'll admit, Andrew Jackson was pretty based.
>>55208485
>We hate you like we hate Jews: you both lack honour.
I never knew a sandnigger would talk to us about honor
who cares now. Canada and the UK are just America's bitches now.
>>55208485
>No, they can't. People put the middle finger up at you fuckers. Can't you see that? The EU has openly gone against America before. This is why people hate you filthy, piggish Americans, because you think you're better than everyone, but in reality you're not.
Implying I think I'm better.
>You twist the facts and you lie without honour. We hate you like we hate Jews: you both lack honour.
Implying it's not fact. Did that picture trigger you?
>No such thing, really.
>I know America likes to think that, but they still like to think they can "boss other countries around".
I don't. My government does.
>some have expressed their disinterest - which is true for the majority of the population.
Citation needed.
>You think the War of 1812 was the biggest war we ever won? No! The War of 1812 is only good for pissing off you fat lards, just as the American Revolution is good for pissing off his yellow-teethed Britbongs.
>Basically, I love America, like a mother likes her child. And when a mother sees her child smoking and robbing people, she's going to be upset and frustrated. When we see you being complete pricks, we think 'this is not how we raised America; this is not what America truly is.
Ahahaha! You didn't raise us. We fought a war so that you couldn't raise us. Remember?
>Sure, it's powerful and strong, but being that is not all in life. There's more life than being the best in the class.'
No shit, but being that I was born and raised in America, obviously I am grateful for that. I'd rather die than be from any other country.
>Now, do you understand why many of us Britbongs act like this to you? I know I said we hate you, but that's most of the world, and sometimes us at times.
Implying I give half a shit.
>>55209131
>Taking US Lands was the British military objective.
I'm crying in laughter right now.
You invaded Canada, we stopped you.
We didn't care about USA at that point. We had just defeated Napoleon and we were busy creating an empire in the east.
>>55209010
We declared the war to end British impressment of American sailors and encroachment upon our free trade. Both things that you were forced to stop doing by the Treaty of Ghent.
What did you gain? Nothing. You "lost", get it? Lost. Do you know what that word means? It means to have something, then later to not have it.
Who am I kidding? I'm speaking to a Brit. He doesn't have the cognitive capability to process the idea of Britain losing anything. In his flawed, subhuman mind, Britain has never done anything wrong and is currently the best and most perfect nation on earth that everybody loves.
UT INCEPIT FIDELIS SIC PERMANET
>>55209332
Isn't he that kid who played in Home Alone? I don't know him.
>>55204371
>>55204442
Some citations for you.
Just as a teenager rebels against his parents, you did too. Doesn't mean we raised you, albeit terribly.
>My government doest that
True, your government does to that action, but you think you can. I said 'think' not 'does'. Why do Americans fail at basic comprehension.
>I was born in America so I know there's more than being the best.
You obviously don't; you lack honour and comradeship.
>Implying I give half a shit
You may not now, but you'll in the future. And you'll thank yourself that you know that.
For the record the burning of Washington was vengeance for the sacking of York (now Toronto).
>>55209428
I can admit Britain has done things wrong, like the Battle of New Orleans or how we lost those ships to America. However, I know we won the war. And you want to know why? Because we stopped kidnapping Americans after the Napoleonic Wars. We stopped doing it a year before the Treaty of Ghent. So, how did the Treaty of Ghent force us to stop kidnapping us? We stopped kidnapping you because there was no need for it.
>>55209698
Btw...the reason we hsvr the nicer, better and more impressive "horseshoe falls in niagara falls is because we kicked their ass. Sir Isaac Brock urged the Brit and Canadian troops on to kill when he was fatally wounded.
Hah...our niagara falls is better.
after reading this thread, it seems burgers get triggered by this more than about jokes on 9/11 right after it happened
good to know
>>55204087
>More specifically, how do Americans feel about the burning of Washington?
Should have burned more politicians and fewer buildings.
>>55209908
I got pretty triggered with the burger's ignorance. MFW it backfired.
yeah, but this shit is good to piss them off. They know they lost deep down.
>>55204383
I live in a nice area,so it feels pretty good.But there are parts of Brazil that are India tier,without the designated shitting streets.
>>55209814
>We stopped doing it a year before the Treaty of Ghent
Quite impressive that you stopped kidnapping Americans during your war with America. It's almost as though we were warring over that matter.
I hate Brits so much. One moment you'll market your failings as a great triumph, the next you'll declare that the limitations imposed upon you by your own failings are merely a measure of mercy. Brits are the most arrogant people on the entire planet, despite the fact that they live on an tiny rock, inbreeding and bastardizing their own language.
>>55207737
So why didn't you niggers annex it? Maybe the world would be a better place if you kept that shithole instead of letting us have it.
>>55210168
How can you bastardise your language?
Also, as I aforementioned, we stopped kidnapping troops because the Napoleonic wars had ended. Funny how we stopped kidnapping Americans straight after the end of that war, but we still continued to fight America.
>>55210257
Because we didn't want to, really. Plus most of our soldiers were drunk, which is why they would do something as ridiculous as burn the W.H. down. We could've annexed it, but we decided our job was done and we gave peace upon our sons.
>>55209139
you forgot our flag on mars hatty
>>55209380
Shows what you know. The attack that lead to the burning of the White House wasn't just a raid. It was also to take land and win the war.
>>55210284
It's almost as though it's hard to kidnap people that shoot at you on sight.
I wish Britain would sink. It has outlived its sole remaining use as a landing strip with the advent of nuclear powered aircraft carriers.
>>55210395
As with every other loss in British history, they just weren't really trying.
>>55210514
I never said that. I said we didn't want to annex America.
Difference between 'not trying' and 'not wanting to'.
>>55204087
> beaten by Canadians
Canada wasn't a country yet, it was still Great Britain and her armies, so more like "war of independence part II". Overall, I think it made us realize that we had to colonize Westward before the British could flank us, leading to the eradication of countless native americans at a faster, more brutal rate than might otherwise have been so.
> Ultimately, it led to the US becoming a militant hegemonic power, ultimately culminating in the Monroe Doctrine
The US claimed sovereignty over the entire Western Hemisphere stretching to Antarctica (including Brazil, whose internal politics we've been able to control since Portugal shrank into non-existence).
> if you don't like it, thank Canada
>>55204087
I don't feel.
Nowa days the U.S.A is a military powerhouse that can do what it wants when it wants. And others will turn a blind eye because they can't do much about it. Britain isn't the great empire it used to be.
>>55210413
I don't know what you're talking about with the first sentence. You're right, I guess. But, how is that relevant?
Also, Britain is not a landing strip. I guess you also think Europe is just a holiday park. You Americans make me fucking sick with your disrespect and lack of Honour. Even after we conquered our colonies, we could at least respect and appreciate their cultures and ethnicities; you Americans can't even do the same with your Allies, your Mother.
Britain is not a landing strip; it is the ancestral homeland of your founding fathers. How dare you say such revolting swill.
>>55210632
>"[We didn't annex America] because we didn't want to, really"
>"I-I-I-I NEVER S-SAID THAT W-WE WEREN'T REALLY T-TRYING!! W-We j-just didn't really c-care about the war at all, b-but tried really hard... I think...
What tangled webs we weave when we struggle to deceive.
>>55210410
No, it wasn't. We were defending Canada from you bastards. We drove you out, and to prove a point we burnt down your White House. That was what were doing. Do you not understand - you were the aggressors? You decided to TRY and annex Canada and you failed, miserably.
>>55210823
>Even after we conquered our colonies, we could at least respect and appreciate their cultures and ethnicities
I'd like to believe this is just "ironic" revisionist history, but you sound sincere. How's that cultural marxist indoctrination working out for you now, Britbong?
>>55204315
>We're friends with Canada now.
We can be more than friends~
>>55204087
>events that transpired over 200 years ago between countries that are some of the closest allies in the world now
Shit don't matter m8
>>55210823
It's almost as though impressment is difficult or impossible when the people you're trying to impress are hostile.
Europe isn't a holiday park. Holiday parks are pleasant. Europe is a vile mass of fragmented countries so caught in an endless cycle of success and jealousy that it endlessly alights itself ablaze. Britain is the most horrid of the failing states, driving all conflict in the region in its jealous rage at the success of others.
>>55210862
Now, that I think about, it was a bit of contradiction there. My apologies.
My point was, we conquered your capital; instead of going on, however, we called for peace in the Treaty of Ghent.
It wasn't a case of annexing America for us, if you can understand.
My apologies for that mistake of mine.
>>55210931
We respected the Muslim Faith in the Middle East (Kitchener). The same can't be said for these savages who dare to invade the isles today. I pray, may the Almighty and Absolute smite their very existence from his humble abode.
>>55209653
>Isn't he that kid who played in Home Alone? I don't know him.
I was talking about the picture of US bases around the world.
>>55204371
>>55204442
>Some citations for you.
Those aren't citations, nor are they citing what you implied in your previous reply to me.
>Just as a teenager rebels against his parents, you did too. Doesn't mean we raised you, albeit terribly.
Huh?
>True, your government does to that action, but you think you can. I said 'think' not 'does'. Why do Americans fail at basic comprehension.
It doesn't matter whether I think we can or not. My opinion doesn't affect what the government does.
>You obviously don't; you lack honour and comradeship.
You're right. I do not have honour or comradeship towards some random brit. Why would I?
>You may not now, but you'll in the future. And you'll thank yourself that you know that.
Are you just mumbling?
>>55211202
Your troops left long before you called for peace.
>>55211037
Calling Europe a holiday park was merely theoretical. It's your disregard for cultures, for people, for homelands, which I was indicating to.
Europe has always been 'fragmented', and that's what made us great. No union can bring us together and no threat can divide us. That's why I love Europe.
You may see destruction and death in Europe, but I see hope and a new light. Remember, these sorts of thing have happened in Europe before. It is naturally in the American's mind to wish the worst for others, I assume.
>>55211294
> being kufar is respectful of Islam
Stop right there, this is exactly why you're fucking up today. Was the Balfour Declaration respectful of the Muslim faith? Was the Suez Canal respectful of Islam? Let's be honest, colonizing isn't an act of respect; you tell yourself you were benevolent overlords because it helps ease the white guilt you're obsessed with today. Your country is already gone, you just don't realize it. Britain is the walking dead... the rest of us are close behind...
>>55204647
>They were British soldiers sent down from Canada lel get your facts straight
Actually they were vets from the Napoleonic wars sent straight over from Europe, which is partially why they stomped the American forces defending Washington so damn hard.
Seriously they smashed them so hard and fast that the Redcoats suffered heatstroke trying to keep up with the routing Americans.
>>55211404
No, it didn't trigger me, because I knew the words and the picture were disjunct.
The second one I was talking about how we raised you. America was founded by ethnic Brits and on British values.
I don't think you understand my third point.
I'm talking about Honour and Comradeship for everyone around you. In America, it's all about the individual and not about the society. Before you shout 'Communist' at me, I'm not. You can have a capitalistic society and care for others. Americans, from what I've seen, don't.
Sixth one; yeah, I was just mumbling. Sorry. It doesn't really matter for the arguments.
>>55205367
Vietnamese slave children make my shoes
>>55211582
Europe is not great. It submits, and continues to decline, in the face of American superiority. Europeans are barbarians. They are incapable of understanding the clearly superior ways of American governance, and only design to destroy and plunder. The only profit that may be derived from Europe, in the present, is the profit gained from selling them supplies in their inevitable and constant wars. The only avenue for uplifting Europe is for it to be conquered by Americans, either financially, diplomatically, or physically.
>>55211701
I think Her Majesty did the right thing - most naturally, she would.
They may not be respectful, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't as well.
America won the war of 1812.
>>55211975
faggot
>>55212116
Here we see the immense intelligence demonstrated by those Americans foolish enough to worship the former status of the Old World.
>>55211701
>Was the Suez Canal respectful of Islam?
Seeing as how Suez was a deal struck with Egypt before Egypt became a British colony that was nationalised when Egypt was no longer a British colony.
Yes?
>>55211975
America's government is descended from the British.
Also, you do have the best GDP. However, you're in huge amounts of debt. Let's be honest, the Chinese pretty much own your economy. Of course, we too are in huge amounts of debt.
>>55204087
>huehue asking for round 2
>>55212316
Debt is the economy and we don't owe all that shit to China, we owe it to Jewish bankers.
Same as you, your country's been under control by since before America was a thing, you should know.
>>55212252
He would probably called you a faggot for calling Europeans, 'barbarians'. I guess that makes every white American 'a barbarian'. I guess that makes America 'a nation founded by barbarians'. Don't you see your retardation?
>>55212379
>Owe it to Jewish Bankers
LE HAPPY MERCHANT MEME
Grow up!
>Same as you
I know, I said that.
>>55211846
>I'm talking about Honour and Comradeship for everyone around you. In America, it's all about the individual and not about the society...you can have a capitalistic society and care for others. Americans, from what I've seen, don't.
Hearing this from a Brit leaves me speechless. We bled to keep the wolf from your door, and you tell us about Honor and Comradeship, about being selfish.
Anglosphere is real, anon. America-bashing is the favorite passtime of nearly everyone in Europe, raised on a steady diet of Leftist contempt for the US, never realizing -- even amongst conservatives -- that this is a relic of cultural marxist indoctrination. We bled together more often than on opposite sides, and we still do. But here we are, happily venting rage at "muh ebil murica", happily maintaining the demoralization they trained you in.
I realize its addictive, with the steady bombardment of reinforcement in the media, but you can deprogram yourself at any time. You just have to make up your mind.
>>55212316
How can America's government be descended from the British if we had to fight a war in order to have it? What pathetic arrogance. You believe that you can impose the inception of and lay claim to the same subject.
The Chinese own a small fraction of the US debt. This is in spite of their best efforts. US debts is owed primarily to its own citizens. I blame Social Security and Welfare.
