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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IEFD_JVYd0
This isn't just some random college.. IT'S FUCKING YALE
THESE ARE THE COUNTRY'S "MOST TALENTED" STUDENTS
AMERICA IS FUCKING DOOMED
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>>55189221

God damn this nation is fucked.
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>>55189221

maybe it is you who is wrong :^)
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>>55189348
Sigh.. no fuck you.
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Skull and Bones, pls purge this nigger filth from our ive league, thank you
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>I YELL THE LOUDEST AT YOU SO I MUST BE RIGHT
I'm done with the youth of this nation. The propaganda machine has won. We need a purge of all people between the ages of 3 and 21. We need a fresh start.
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>>55189221
what mail did he send?
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All of the West is fucked. I'm amazed nobody has decided to start "le race war XXDD" by now.
Also what was she so pissed about?
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this is what happens when you give women rights. they take it for granted and screech.
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>>55189221
I got denied because of that he/she.

Are ivy league's worth it at this point?
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What's this about? Why was she screaming like a bitch?
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>>55189221
>snapping your fingers
>yelling retweet

At least the entire crowd didn't start to yell and chimp out. I was surprised by that.
I guess that's the difference between Yale students and others their same age.
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>>55189788
>slovakoczechia
triggered
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>>55189702

>Asking the people that imported them to deport them..
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>>55189221
The smartest students in USA are Muslims, Indians and Africans? Well, well, how things changed. No wonder they aren't satisfied, because the university got a white history, but now those people are there, it was destined to clash.
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>>55189221

Honest question: How are universities like Yale still considered to be among the best? It makes me inclined to believe that all those university statistics putting so many American universities in the top places are simply made up in order to kow-tow to America.
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Russia is gonna eat these people alive when they become politicians.
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>All those minorities and niggers who got in based on affirmative action

absolutely disgusting
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>>55190261
University rankings generally aren't about the quality of the education you get, especially at the undergraduate level. University rankings are mostly about the quality and amount of research put forth by the professors, and the quality of their credentials. To a lesser extent the quality of graduate school is tied in as well, but that's mainly because grad school is often connected to research.
Aka, undergrad students and programs don't mean jack squat in the quality of a university, only the educated upper ranks of (mostly white male) professors matter.
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Imagine when whites actually become minorities in USA. They are going to end up like the whites in South Africa and Zimbabwe.
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>>55189788
Race war/civil war/whatever war will not begin until the comfort subsides.
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>>55190380
Why would Russia need to eat you? You are eating yourself. Only question is who comes first to get served, is it:
a.) Mexicans
b.) Indians
c.) Africans
d.) Chinese
e.) ??? mystery allied sneak attack ???
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leftists are literally mentally ill
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>>55189221
>implying Yale and all Ivies are not flooded with liberal SJWs
Worry not, OP. These types never do anything meaningful anyway
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>Some fag yells "RETWEET" like a battle cry

Kill my generation.
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>>55189783

Reposting a leddit comment on this:

The way I understood the situation was that it went down like this:

>Intercultural Affairs Council (which sounds like SJW Mecca) sends email to an administrator of a particular college

>This is a fucking novel of an email, and contains links and pictures depicting what should and should not be deemed "acceptable" costumes for Halloween because muh racial cultural appropriation

>Administrator is like "lol dude don't you have more important shit to worry about, quit fucking whiteknighting these ethnic people and grow up" and blows it off

>This video is that administrator's husband getting berated by this crazy bitch

>apparently this had been going on for an hour prior to this video being shot

>now more SJWs are protesting and calling for the resignation of both the administrator and her husband
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>>55190640
>These types never do anything meaningful anyway
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Why is there no white people at that university?
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>>55189833
No, anon, college is just highschool 2.0.
There is NOTHING taught that you can't learn yourself and any company that requires a degree isn't one you'd want to work for.
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>>55189833
Absolutely not, unless you're going for law school or graduating with a business/finance/economics degree in which case it's worth it for the networking factor. Most undergrad education in the top 50 schools is the same anywhere. Shit my school isn't even in the top 100 and I do pretty well. Degrees in things that matter though, you generally don't go to an Ivy. Unless it's Cornell.
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>>55190743
you should know, cankek
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>>55190743
They're all in the library actually studying so they can learn, get good grades and eventually make something of their lives.
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Are they fucking snapping their fingers in stead of clapping? What the fuck America
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>>55190777
> Le education is a scam may may
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>>55190743
Because America is a capitalist country and all of Africa/Arabia sends their president children to study there for big money. That's how smart people in west are born, you need lots of money.
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>>55190245
> smartest
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>>55189221
>IT'S FUCKING YALE

Maybe you aren't familiar with how seeped in leftist bullshit Yale actually is. It's quickly becoming a joke university that anyone gets accepted into.
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>>55189221
what on the email?
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>>55190813
>>55190839
Where are all the white Russian and slavs at that university?

This just proves that /pol/'s understanding of genetics is virtually none
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>>55190819
Starting to smell like leddit in here
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>>55190777
Just because something can be self-taught doesn't mean it should be; having the guidance and mentorship of a teacher makes learning far quicker and more efficient. Most important part of college is networking anyways. What you learn at an ivy league school is no different than a regular state school, but the connections you make with teachers and fellow students can make all the difference in your life.
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>>55189788
To be honest, I kinda hate the enablers just as much if not more, those idiotic SJW who in their self-righteous delusions actually think to be "doing good" while fighting any freedom and any right that doesn't suit them.
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Are there any universities that aren't SJW infested?
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>>55190819
> uses an actual meme as a counter for a legitimate statement
Okay
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>>55190930
Only religious leaders like Jews who get rich by preaching or oil leaders' children have enough cash to be smart in Yale. You think we going to fly to Yale, we ain't no Eddie Murphy.
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>>55190986
> going to school to network
Are you trying to imply that you need college to do that?
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>>55191055
>>55191139
Most people learn better going to school especially in smaller classrooms with professors to give them hands on teaching and learning. They also are more motivated being in a classroom. It is more difficult to study everything by yourself especially when you are struggling with certain topic.
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>>55190690
RETWEET

I smell the beginnings of a meme, lads
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>>55191050
Probably all of the state of Texas aside from UT. In fact probably most of the South outside of UT and University of Florida
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>>55189779
No, we need to get rid of the baby boomers who actually caused this
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>>55190788
What's so good about cornell? It has a red light rating on FIRE's website just like most ivy league schools.
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>>55191281
Wrong
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>>55189221
The country's best University's stopped seeking the best and brightest back in the early 90's, and decided their new goal was a "diverse" student body

This is the result
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>>55191389
It's the worst Ivy.
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>>55191050
Community technical Colleges are not
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>>55191139
Again, it's not the fact that you can't do it outside of university, it's that doing so at university is much easier. Unless your dad is Trump or the president or something, what better place to start networking than at an institution chock full of thousands of big-name or future-big-name individuals all looking to network as well?
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>>55190813
Clearly you've never been to a university. The only people who actually study are Asian.
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>>55189221
daycare for adults.
One of the worst economic investments I can think of unless you're in a STEM field or economics.
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Niggers, arabs, yellowsickmen everywhere lel
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>>55189810

>Doesn't capitalize first word in sentence.
>Writes in sentence fragments.

Fuck off, Nazi!
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>>55189348
These people are crazy did you watch the video
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>>55191584
>H-1B land
>good investment

Sure thing grandpa
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>>55190640
Harvard has been garbage for 20 years. Now its SJW heaven. A absolute joke.
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>>55189221

All those affirmative action students

>kek yeah that sure is Yale
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>>55191633
Sure, you'll still be a wage slave, but at least your wage will be high. Just do the smart thing and start your own company with the money the jews give you for college. Thats what I did.
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>>55190986

> having a teacher makes it easier

If they're competent, I agree 100%. That's not the case all the time. I'm teaching myself Thermodynamics right now because my professor can't teach for shit.
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>>55191765
Same for Yale and Columbia. I don't know much about Brown but they seem like they're that way too. I know nothing about Princeton. Penn and Cornell are all right though. Guess what, they're the only ones with meaningful STEM programs. Coincidence?
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>>55191389
Cornell has a good engineering department. But even then you can get an equally good education from a lot of public schools.
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>>55191829
>you'll still be a wage slave, but at least your wage will be high.
Not true where I live. I live in a school town. We have to many schools for one city. What that has done it makes your diploma a dime a dozen. Driving down wages to shit tier while the cost of living in this shit hole is insane.
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>>55191393
Well then correct me, nigga
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>>55191829
What do you do with your own company?
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Post the email
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>>55191904
Well yeah, sorry I thought that was kinda assumed. No teacher is better than a bad teacher. Been tutoring math for years, and I always feel so bad for the students who end up with certain instructors for their first calculus class. It's so painfully obvious who their teacher is when working with them, and I practically have to teach them everything from scratch.
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>>55189221
What do these emails says?
Can anyone tell me?
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>>55192332
Dear Sillimanders:

Nicholas and I have heard from a number of students who were frustrated by the mass email sent to the student body about appropriate Halloweenwear. I’ve always found Halloween an interesting embodiment of more general adult worries about young people. As some of you may be aware, I teach a class on “The Concept of the Problem Child,” and I was speaking with some of my students yesterday about the ways in which Halloween – traditionally a day of subversion for children and young people – is also an occasion for adults to exert their control.

When I was young, adults were freaked out by the specter of Halloween candy poisoned by lunatics, or spiked with razor blades (despite the absence of a single recorded case of such an event). Now, we’ve grown to fear the sugary candy itself. And this year, we seem afraid that college students are unable to decide how to dress themselves on Halloween. I don’t wish to trivialize genuine concerns about cultural and personal representation, and other challenges to our lived experience in a plural community. I know that many decent people have proposed guidelines on Halloween costumes from a spirit of avoiding hurt and offense. I laud those goals, in theory, as most of us do. But in practice, I wonder if we should reflect more transparently, as a community, on the consequences of an institutional (which is to say: bureaucratic and administrative) exercise of implied control over college students.

It seems to me that we can have this discussion of costumes on many levels: we can talk about complex issues of identify, free speech, cultural appropriation, and virtue “signalling.” But I wanted to share my thoughts with you from a totally different angle, as an educator concerned with the developmental stages of childhood and young adulthood.
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>>55192624
As a former preschool teacher, for example, it is hard for me to give credence to a claim that there is something objectionably “appropriative” about a blondehaired child’s wanting to be Mulan for a day. Pretend play is the foundation of most cognitive tasks, and it seems to me that we want to be in the business of encouraging the exercise of imagination, not constraining it. I suppose we could agree that there is a difference between fantasizing about an individual character vs. appropriating a culture, wholesale, the latter of which could be seen as (tacky)(offensive)(jejeune)(hurtful), take your pick. But, then, I wonder what is the statute of limitations on dreaming of dressing as Tiana the Frog Princess if you aren’t a black girl from New Orleans? Is it okay if you are eight, but not 18? I don’t know the answer to these questions; they seem unanswerable. Or at the least, they put us on slippery terrain that I, for one, prefer not to cross.

Which is my point. I don’t, actually, trust myself to foist my Halloweenish standards and motives on others. I can’t defend them anymore than you could defend yours. Why do we dress up on Halloween, anyway? Should we start explaining that too? I’ve always been a good mimic and I enjoy accents. I love to travel, too, and have been to every continent but Antarctica. When I lived in Bangladesh, I bought a sari because it was beautiful, even though I looked stupid in it and never wore it once. Am I fetishizing and appropriating others’ cultural experiences? Probably. But I really, really like them too. Even if we could agree on how to avoid offense – and I’ll note that no one around campus seems overly concerned about the offense taken by religiously conservative folks to skinrevealing costumes – I wonder, and I am not trying to be provocative: Is there no room anymore for a child or young person to be a little bit obnoxious… a little bit inappropriate or provocative or, yes, offensive?
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>>55192666
American universities were once a safe space not only for maturation but also for a certain regressive, or even transgressive, experience;increasingly, it seems, they have become places of censure and prohibition. And the censure and prohibition come from above, not from yourselves! Are we all okay with this transfer of power? Have we lost faith in young people's capacity – in your capacity to exercise selfcensure, through social norming, and also in your capacity to ignore or reject things that trouble you? We tend to view this shift from individual to institutional agency as a tradeoff between libertarian vs. liberal values (“liberal” in the American, not European sense of the word).

Nicholas says, if you don’t like a costume someone is wearing, look away, or tell them you are offended. Talk to each other. Free speech and the ability to tolerate offence are the hallmarks of a free and open society.

But – again, speaking as a child development specialist – I think there might be something missing in our discourse about the exercise of free speech (including how we dress ourselves) on campus, and it is this: What does this debate about Halloween costumes say about our view of young adults, of their strength and judgment?

In other words: Whose business is it to control the forms of costumes of young people? It's not mine, I know that.

Happy Halloween.
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What is she complaining/"protesting" about? I don't get it. Is it about that safe space bullshit?
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>>55192624
>>55192666
>>55192683

It's almost like they didn't read the email at all. And they want an apology for what? Having a different opinion. baka
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>>55189221

Can we see the fucking email?
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>>55191323
Then we're still left with these fuckers.
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>>55190693
First off, she refers to him in the first person
>why did YOU accept the position

Secondly, regardless of that, why didn't he just walk away from these faggots?
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>>55192666
>it is hard for me to give credence to a claim that there is something objectionably “appropriative” about a blondehaired child’s wanting to be Mulan for a day.

B A S E D
A
S
E
D
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>>55192865
She didn't even really attack their (idiotic) central point, that dressing up is racist or whatever, just encouraged them to resolve their differences civilly amongst themselves through debate or, better yet, turning the other cheek instead of constantly soliciting institutional authorities to shut down their opposition and mollycoddle them.
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>>55191562
Just because you never studied and DUDE BEER LMAO'd your way through university, doesn't mean other people didn't study and actually try to achieve things, Chad.
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>>55189221
college is a meme now
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>>55190874
>?
>Yale SJWs screaming at professor yesterday because he isn't making the university enough of a "safe space" by denouncing offensive Halloween costumes.

>Remember, being professor at a high level university is not about intellectual space, its about Safe Space...
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https://youtu.be/ZRl2_ibd_WA

look at how they snap their fingers instead of clapping hahahha

how the fuck is this real?
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>>55193328

I cannot speak loud enough for all of you to hear me because it might seem like I am yelling at her and I don't want it to seem that way so I will speak quietly and half of you won't hear me but that is better than you falsely thinking I am yelling at her.

This is fucking Yale. My God.
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>>55192624
>>55192666
>>55192683
What disturbs me the most is ho äw simple of a concept this is. If such students are so intelligent to get into a school like Yale, you would think them more enlightened than to waste their time with such baser grievances. I see the opposite.
I feel they think their "intelligence" means they need to stand above the crowd of regular, apathetic people and put the duty of saving the whole universe on their shoulders.

But this is, to me, a tell-tale sign of the educated idiot. She follows suit with what her angry peers say is the correct mode of thinking completely ignoring ACTUAL issues that literally PLAGUE this country. Live is unlivable for many people, yet the fear that someone might get offended at something is the most important issue of our time for these people; people who have not had the chance to experience any real hardship other than the years of their lives wasted on arbitrary facts only to be forgotten after test time.

There is a chance the only interractions these girls have had were on their Liberal Internet sites. Imagine the childhood lost under the scrutiny of their parents to get "perfect grades". Their life was wasted and they consider it to be a plus despite it having made them retarded.
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>>55192666
>I really, really like them too
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>>55193517
I imagine that most people in the video got in on diversity quotas and scholarships.
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>>55193517
>If such students are so intelligent to get into a school like Yale

This assumption of our society needs to be challenged and put to the test. I do not believe anymore that Ivy League students are smarter than state school students: in fact I believe just the opposite. After over 20 years of being a post-grad from a state school and seeing shit like this come out of the Ivy League, and hearing from hiring managers, I just don;t believe it anymore.
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>>55192984
She is the assistant master, her husband is the master.
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>>55192984
Both him and his wife have positions in the same office. He was supposed to do a speak on some ethnic sensitivity or some other bullshit, and they started protesting outside so he went out to confront them.
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>>55193812
>>55193851
Oh. Okay. Thanks for the info. I know nothing of the situation, I was confuzzled.
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Wow, for once Reddit is anti-SJW.

>Graduated from Yale in 1984 and won the Russell Henry Chittenden Prize, went on to get an M.D. from Harvard and Masters in Public Health, in addition to winning the Bowdoin Prize[1] . Then got a Ph.D in Sociology from the University of Pennsylvania. He has worked as a physician, has been awarded tenure at the University of Chicago as a Professor of Sociology and Medicine, and has a shitload of published research. He even did a TED talk[2] .
>You have to wonder what he's thinking while he's being berated in the courtyard by a dipshit with a chip on her shoulder because he didn't jump through enough hoops for her.
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>>55191584
corporate america is daycare for adults just for the record
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>>55193328
i want off this ride anon :(
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>>55190743
Affirmative action.
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>>55193328
2:12
>DATS DATS DATS DATS DATS

Even a fucking Yale student, when being black, is asking for gibsmedats
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>>55190817
>Clapping is offensive to people with only one arm..
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>>55191249
RETWEET
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>>55194422
Sad is shit like that might be true nowadays
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>>55194622
>Ableism
>sexism
>racism
>classism
>*ism
Yes anon it is true. When they realize that, snapping their fingers singles out people without both hands, they will have to find a new solution to show their support.
I'm hoping they will start banging their heads on tables and walls. I mean everyone has a head so you're not singling anyone group of people out by banging your head instead of clapping...
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>>55189779
you mean yoof

>>55191323
you mean joos
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>>55193713
This is very true. I personally believe that the current university system is outdated. The prices, the administration, the whole system all seems to be severely broken, leading to dire consequences. Idiots are getting pieces of paper that magically elevate them to a higher rank in society.

I am not saying that I know a solution by any means. There has to be a solution somewhere. I feel that if we could find a system of education that actually improves upon what we already have, we might have a chance at a decent future. If that means abolishing the whole system and creating something new, then so be it. These kids do not embrace life experiences but rather reject them. Thinking on your own and learning to strengthen yourself emotionally is how you become smart in the first place. Why do we reject this? We sell our souls for credentials.

>talking to hiring managers
What did these hiring managers have to say about this?
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>>55195484
>What did these hiring managers have to say about this?

When I got out of engineering school I frequented chatrooms to help in my job search and career path, and several times I read comments complaining about "top tier" engineering students who were arrogant and did not know their ass from a hole in the ground. I went to a state school in the Northwest, and we had TAs from Berkeley - they told us our school was just as hard as theirs, there really was no difference.
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>>55193328
>>55189221
Yale needs some school shootings
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>>55196681
Only if they're white though. Otherwise it's just cultural appropriation.

Niggers have to disrupt and be violent to the point that no one wants to go there.

Arabs have to use explosives.

Chinks have to infest and turn it shitty.
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>>55190777

Nice trips, but I'm the office manager of an arts organization, and not having a college degree looks very bad. You need a sterling resume to compensate.

A college degree shows that you can commit to something and finish it, and probably learn something while you're doing it. I'd rather have somebody who spent four years earning a degree than somebody who wandered around but is "really smart." Plus student loans mean that they probably aren't going to slack off, because they really need an income.
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>>55189221

And btw, it's Yale. What do you really expect?
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>>55196681
This, to be honest, people who are close enough to me to be considered family.
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American cultural revolution, complete with public shaming of academics their students
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>>55190788
>going to corn school

You fell for the Pynchon meme, didn't you lad?
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Wonder if the number of Jewish students at Yale and other Ivy League school has something to do with this ...
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>>55191584

Do you know what the RoI on a liberal arts degree is?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoxJKmuoBmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRl2_ibd_WA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IEFD_JVYd0

Here's all three videos, for reference.

Maybe somebody will take a cue from Mizzou and go on a hunger strike.
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>>55189221
There are plenty of smart people at top unis. It's just that all of them are white and asian.
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>>55197075
So... you'd rather have the first desperate person who meets the bare minimum instead of looking for someone who is probably a better asset to the company due to being good at the job?
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>>55189810
That's why they are on the Internet mate, they get face blasted on a regular basis where I live. We don't tolerate loose lipped faggots you can and will get your ass beat for acting like a sensitive fairy isn't the real world. Go outside and he rekked faggots
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>>55190690
They don't represent our gen bruh, they represent media outlets and mainstream opinions. Literal ideological waste baskets. Real mothafuckas ain't tolerating all that diareah at the mouth
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>>55189221
>safe spaces

what the actual fuck is this shit?
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>>55189348
Maybe you should stop being a nigger lover, what kind of shitty students yell to teachers or University stuff over a bullshit subject.
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ivyfag here. the elite schools are sunk. I repeat. the elite schools are sunk. the political climate is so dense and universally acknowledged that it's not worth having opinions anymore. honestly, the options are to either become a quasi social outcast or to just shut up, tow the line, and try not to commit a microagression. we talk about conservatives on campus like they're an entirely different species.
of course, this will change when people amass money and have families and slowly realize that they really don't give a fuck about other people as much as they thought they did. people get more conservative with age.
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>>55191217
>thinking college is the only way to succeed in life.
Keke
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>>55189221
As a liberal these types of fuckers make me sick. No, the entire world isn't a safe zone, it never has been and never will be. If it is a safe zone, why the fuck are you making it unsafe by harassing that guy?
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>>55190817
>amerisnaps
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>>55189779
e d g e . . .
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>>55191249
RETWEET
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Here is that oppressive evil email:

Dear Sillimanders:
Nicholas and I have heard from a number of students who were frustrated by the mass email sent to the student body about appropriate Halloweenwear. I’ve always found Halloween an interesting embodiment of more general adult worries about young people. As some of you may be aware, I teach a class on “The Concept of the Problem Child,” and I was speaking with some of my students yesterday about the ways in which Halloween – traditionally a day of subversion for children and young people – is also an occasion for adults to exert their control.

(1/2)
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>>55204708

When I was young, adults were freaked out by the specter of Halloween candy poisoned by lunatics, or spiked with razor blades (despite the absence of a single recorded case of such an event). Now, we’ve grown to fear the sugary candy itself. And this year, we seem afraid that college students are unable to decide how to dress themselves on Halloween. I don’t wish to trivialize genuine concerns about cultural and personal representation, and other challenges to our lived experience in a plural community. I know that many decent people have proposed guidelines on Halloween costumes from a spirit of avoiding hurt and offense. I laud those goals, in theory, as most of us do. But in practice, I wonder if we should reflect more transparently, as a community, on the consequences of an institutional (which is to say: bureaucratic and administrative) exercise of implied control over college students.
It seems to me that we can have this discussion of costumes on many levels: we can talk about complex issues of identify, free speech, cultural appropriation, and virtue “signalling.” But I wanted to share my thoughts with you from a totally different angle, as an educator concerned with the developmental stages of childhood and young adulthood.

(2/3 sorry lol)
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>>55204750

As a former preschool teacher, for example, it is hard for me to give credence to a claim that there is something objectionably “appropriative” about a blondehaired child’s wanting to be Mulan for a day. Pretend play is the foundation of most cognitive tasks, and it seems to me that we want to be in the business of encouraging the exercise of imagination, not constraining it. I suppose we could agree that there is a difference between fantasizing about an individual character vs. appropriating a culture, wholesale, the latter of which could be seen as (tacky)(offensive)(jejeune)(hurtful), take your pick. But, then, I wonder what is the statute of limitations on dreaming of dressing as Tiana the Frog Princess if you aren’t a black girl from New Orleans? Is it okay if you are eight, but not 18? I don’t know the answer to these questions; they seem unanswerable. Or at the least, they put us on slippery terrain that I, for one, prefer not to cross.
Which is my point. I don’t, actually, trust myself to foist my Halloweenish standards and motives on others. I can’t defend them anymore than you could defend yours. Why do we dress up on Halloween, anyway? Should we start explaining that too?

(3/4 omg)
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>>55204786

I’ve always been a good mimic and I enjoy accents. I love to travel, too, and have been to every continent but Antarctica. When I lived in Bangladesh, I bought a sari because it was beautiful, even though I looked stupid in it and never wore it once. Am I fetishizing and appropriating others’ cultural experiences? Probably. But I really, really like them too. Even if we could agree on how to avoid offense – and I’ll note that no one around campus seems overly concerned about the offense taken by religiously conservative folks to skinrevealing costumes – I wonder, and I am not trying to be provocative: Is there no room anymore for a child or young person to be a little bit obnoxious… a little bit inappropriate or provocative or, yes, offensive? American universities were once a safe space not only for maturation but also for a certain regressive, or even transgressive, experience;increasingly, it seems, they have become places of censure and prohibition. And the censure and prohibition come from above, not from yourselves! Are we all okay with this transfer of power? Have we lost faith in young people's capacity – in your capacity to exercise selfcensure, through social norming, and also in your capacity to ignore or reject things that trouble you? We tend to view this shift from individual to institutional agency as a tradeoff between libertarian vs. liberal values (“liberal” in the American, not European sense of the word).
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>>55204830

Nicholas says, if you don’t like a costume someone is wearing, look away, or tell them you are offended. Talk to each other. Free speech and the ability to tolerate offence are the hallmarks of a free and open society.
But – again, speaking as a child development specialist – I think there might be something missing in our discourse about the exercise of free speech (including how we dress ourselves) on campus, and it is this: What does this debate about Halloween costumes say about our view of young adults, of their strength and judgment?
In other words: Whose business is it to control the forms of costumes of young people? It's not mine, I know that.
Happy Halloween.
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>>55204708
>>55204750
>>55204786
>>55204830
>>55204846

Whoops I'm retarded. It's already been posted. Sue me.
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It's like watching a Toddler

>Why doesn't everyone agree with me
>Why wont you do what i want
>Why wont you obey me
>Raising your voice and screaming like that makes you correct
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I always wonder why someone doesn't act as an agent provocateur for these things and push them to the point of parody so the backlash quells the idea for good. Have someone start a campaign to ban Halloween costumes in general since they are all triggering (either through cultural appropriation or themes such as murder etc.) or to limit people to choice from a pre-approved list.

The backlash would be enormous.
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Humanity was always a fucking cesspool. The only difference in these times is that everyone can voice their opinion and read other opinions online. Something that was impossible to do, or at least very limited, some 20 years ago.

Yes, a mere 20 years. That's all it took to give the freedom to everyone to express themselves freely, and in come cases, anonymously, and see just how... fucked up people really are.

Honestly, the world might've been a better place without it.
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>>55189221
1. how many people are at yale
2. how many people are in the video
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>>55198150
Kek
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>>55189788
>devon
>cornwall

I don't fuckin fink so m8
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Good universities should stop letting dumb niggers in.
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Zero fucks given.

https://www.thefire.org/yale-students-demand-resignations-from-faculty-members-over-halloween-email/
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>>55205530
I predict that a ban on Halloween-related activities on campus or Halloween costumes will be in place next year at Yale, even without an agent provocateur.

Large institutions and organizations hate controversy, because it disrupts their activities. As a result, their default response to activist outrage (of which the Left, by definition, is more familiar with), is to give in as quickly as they can and to then prevent similar situations from arising in the future. None of the bureaucrats in the school administration care about Halloween more than they do their steady jobs without controversy, so they'll do what they can to quietly avoid future opportunities for students to complain about Halloween.
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>>55206388
source for image plz
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>>55189221
I don't understand. There are consequences for her, right? Is she seriously not in a lot of trouble now? How the hell is that possible.
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>>55207089
i asked this same question in the previous thread. can't she be expelled for yelling/swearing at a professor like that?
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>worthless yalies don't read own shit
>http://yalecollege.yale.edu/new-students/class-2019/academic-information/intro-undergrad-education/freedom-expression

Freedom of Expression
When you come to Yale College you join a community of scholars from around the nation and the world. Yale, like every community, has certain values and principles by which it operates. Among the College’s most cherished principles is its commitment to freedom of expression.

Freedom of expression is especially important in an academic community, where the search for truth holds a primary value. In 1975, a committee chaired by the late C. Vann Woodward, one of Yale’s most distinguished professors, issued the Report of the Committee on Freedom of Expression at Yale, informally called the Woodward Report. This document emphasizes that the history of intellectual growth and discovery demonstrates the need to be able to “think the unthinkable, discuss the unmentionable, and challenge the unchallengeable.” The report acknowledges that such freedom may sometimes make life uncomfortable in a small society such as a college. But it also asserts that “because no other institution combines the discovery and dissemination of basic knowledge with teaching, few need assign such high priority to it.”

Yale’s commitment to freedom of expression means that when you agree to matriculate, you join a community where “the provocative, the disturbing, and the unorthodox” must be tolerated. When you encounter people who think differently than you do, you will be expected to honor their free expression, even when what they have to say seems wrong or offensive to you.

As we honor the right of free expression, we also honor Yale College as a community of teachers and learners who value civility in all their interactions and who maintain a sensitivity to the circumstances and feelings that inform their ideas. It is in a civil and respectful community that freedom of expression can best thrive.
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>>55189833
are any amerian uni's worth it anymore? i asked this in the other thread, but are there any universities in usa that aren't completely infiltrated an co-opted by marxists and sjw's?

Someone said Kansas in the other thread
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Here are some more of Yale's finest informing us about privilege.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3xX6WYNDh4
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>>55189221
Has the Dawk gone soft?
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>>55207623
What do post-modernism and post-irony have to do with any of that shit?
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>>55189221
Lol it's not even that bad. DESU the girl probably comes from a background of oppression and the professor didn't even understand that...
She has a point though, university needs to be safe otherwise how will people learn if they're stressed or thinking about past trauma?
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>>55207355
I talked to a Utah /pol/ anon he said his Uni UVU was pretty safe...
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>>55205865
Like this don't make some kind of a picture? Don't be that guy germoney
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>>55211317
That doesn't really answer the question though.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-irony

>Examples of post-ironic artwork include South African band Die Antwoord and the Werner Herzog film Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans.[2] Noted anti-humor comedian Tim Heidecker portrays a man living a post-ironic lifestyle in The Comedy.[3]
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>>55193328
i bet she is majoring in a social science
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>>55207623

This is not a cringe thread.
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>>55190517
The difference is we have guns to defend ourselves.
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>>55211536
>anti-humor comedian
Enough.
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I suggest we try get something trending on twitter to get these fucking cunts kicked out.

https://twitter.com/Yale

Tweet at yale something like #KickThemOut with your thoughts on these dull fucks.
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>IT IS NOT ABOUT CREATING AN INTELLECTUAL SPACE

Is this satire? What happened?
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>>55213797

Done my bit.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHh1WV-81gE

Harvey Silverglate on fire - talking about how the right were against free speech and now it has switched.
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>>55215630
He basically says how the Vietnam protestors grew up and started censoring the right.
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>>55189221
Yale students freak out over halloween costume.

Skull and bones on suicide watch.
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>>55190261
They're the best the if you're ranking for unqualified non-white students getting Cultural Marxist degrees.
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>>55193328
Lol
Oh man
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>>55189348
My countrymen are weak, effete little shitlords because of the left-wing grip on education and the media. We aren't wrong. We are just sick and tired of the collective victim game that these peaceniks are playing.
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>>55207252
This sentiment has fallen completely out of favour recently. Or rather it was never popular outside of academics and the people who populate universities now, by sheer number alone, are not academics but simply the middle class, who are normal people. normal people do not suspend all their beliefs and emotional comfort for the search for "truth". This is an unusual trait that was even in academia constantly threatened by bias and personal motive. We can't possibly expect institutions of tens of thousands of normal people to think that way.
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