Is there a psychological reason why Liberals would rather let themselves and their whole family die, rather than use a gun?
guns are scary
Most have been brainwashed into being scared of guns. Funny how when they experience violence they suddenly flip flop on the issue. Nothing like a little bit of reality to wake a person up.
Anti-gun person here.
There are ways to keep a home secure other than gun ownership.
You can own a dog, have a security system, have motion-detecting lights, etc.
No one needs a gun to defend himself in 2015.
>>55181723
Right off the bat
>>55181653
beat me to it
After having the idea that every life is worth saving, and everyone is special for their entire lives by their brain dead hippy parents. They couldn't even imagine taking the life of the poor lost soul that is currently caving their skull in.
My current gf used to be a huge bleeding heart before I got her into gun ownership. She mentioned that even if her mother or father were being killed, she couldn't stand the idea of killing the attacker.
Thankfully her Commiefornia mind set passed.
People who have ready access to a firearm are almost twice as likely to be killed and three times likelier to commit suicide than those without a gun available in the home or from a neighbor or friend.
>>55181723
I MEAN COME ON
But that's bullshit because you are relying on the police the left claims is racist and unresponsive.
>>55181825
>>55181825
Where did my post mention the police?
>>55181723
A good security System costs a lot of Money, a Dog is a good Choice but a Dog to protect your Home while still not being dangerous needs a lot of training or /and costs also Money.
Also not an option when your or both of you have a time intenisve Job.
Motion detecting lights get useless after a certain time, especially when you live in a small village with fortest nearby like me and all kinds of animals are roaming through.
Citizens should have the rights to own guns, only subjects to the state are denied of it.
>>55181723
what happens when someone kicks in your front door with a shotgun intending to ram it through your butthole
>>55181723
dogs can be shot, loud beeping noises only annoy, and bright lights only scare away cockroaches
>>55181819
You forgot to tell me what year it is.
>>55181619
>Is there a psychological reason why Liberals would rather let themselves and their whole family die, rather than use a gun?
Cowardice and white guilt.
>>55181906
Being a kek, he probably fantasizes about it.
>>55181619
Brainwashed to be pacifists
>>55181841
>a dog, have a security system, have motion-detecting lights
Those are all alarm systems, designed to make you aware of an intruder so you could call the police. With the exception of the dog(if it's not just barking) that can be always easily dealt with.
So really you're not defending yourself, you just making yourself aware to the fact you need to defend yourself. That's the point when the free man gets his gun and goes downstairs. You'll sit and wait.
>>55181819
>Statistics say I don't know how to use a gun or have a will to live
Seems correct
>>55181906
>>55181907
>dogs can be shot, loud beeping noises only annoy, and bright lights only scare away cockroaches
Sounds like you guys live in fear. "You should own a gun in case someone attacks your house like Arnold in 'The Terminator'."
Yeah, nah. Fuck off with that shit. A dog is a much better option than a gun due to the dog's superior senses. As human beings we could probably sleep through someone burglarizing our homes if they do it quietly, but not a dog. Dogs have way better hearing.
Guns make it too easy to kill other human beings. That's why they should be restricted from the average person.
>>55181819
>three times likelier to commit suicide
>>55182088
You sound like a rather rich guy.
How are poor people who can't afford a proper alarm or a well-trainer guard dog gonna do?
>>55181947
>Cowardice and white guilt.
That's redundant. White guilt IS cowardice. It's taking all the benefits with no responsibility.
>Gee golly, i sure am glade i live in this gated upper middle class neighborhood
>x minority group should be give something like i have
>but not mine, i earned it
>take theirs, it's not mine
>>55182088
What if tyrese shoots your dog and breaks in?
>>55181619
>Is there a psychological reason why Liberals would rather let themselves and their whole family die, rather than use a gun?
they call it "pacifism" but it ultimately boils down to survival instinct of fight or flight. pacfism is just cowardliness wrapped up in tinsel.
>>55182088
Do you really get enjoyment out of this?
Or worse, do you really, honestly believe this?
>>55181723
Be glad you have the choice to not have a gun.
People in germany don't have that luxury.
>>55181825
based hymie
Liberals think everyone else should do things for them
>>55182088
>implying a dog and a gun are mutually exclusive
>>55182192
he would have to suffer the ass rape.
Bullets make a great life insurance plan.
Just posting the banner I got with this thread.
>>55182208
Post article about waiting for police
>>55182159
>well trained
You don't even have to train a dog at all to defend your home lol. Do you know anything about dogs, bro?
They will bark and growl at strange intruders without being trained to do so.
Dogs are inexpensive. I see homeless people with dogs all the time.
>>55182208
Guns make it too easy to kill people. It's a device that allows you to quickly end the life of another human being. That's not the sort of power that can be trusted with the average person.
I wouldn't trust most of you on here with a damn pair of scissors. Fuckin' morons.
>>55182088
>If I have a dog and an alarm system I can't also have a gun, that's way too many things!
>If something is restricted from the average person, criminals won't use it, because that would be illegal.
Nice way of dodging my post and going to easier ones to bait.
4/10 almost good
>>55181619
I know people think only conservatives and religious folk have principles, but this is wrong.
Obviously progressives have their own set and they try to adhere to them.
What conservatives call the slippery slope of degeneracy is just progressive principles applied, that's why after winning the feminism war and the gay battle they now try and fight for pedos.
For them it's more important to be on the moral side of the argument than being right or even their own well being.
That's why some would rather prostrate themselves and take what's coming to them than defend themselves.
Especially true if you see the comments on videos where some woodsman has to kill a wild animal in self defence, according to progressives it's his fault for wandering in the domain of the wild animal.
They also apply the same logic to whites that get assaulted in nigger neighbourhoods, it's the white persons fault for provoking the niggers with his presence.
>>55181723
I suffer from a pretty shitty disease that causes pain that you could call hell, if you can't think up a better word at the time, simply by being touched. If a person enters my home they can stop me simply by laying a hand on any part of my body. If two people enter my home and do the same thing, I suspect I'd pass out from the experience.
A firearm is a force multiplier but it has the unique effect of putting everyone on the same playing field. It doesn't matter anymore that someone can shut me down with little to no effort, because I can shut them down with little to no effort now. Can you please provide me an alternative that would be equally effective?
>>55181619
r/k theory
their mating strategy is to outbreed just like rabbits, rather than protect the few assets they have like wolves
r/K selection theory
>>55182316
Jesus, Mary and Joseph Stalin, how horrible!
>>55181619
>Is there a psychological reason why Liberals would rather let themselves and their whole family die, rather than use a gun?
I don't know. Is there a psychological reason why Conservatives would rather let themselves and their whole family die, rather than give up their guns? Because you're far more likely to get killed by a family member (with a gun) than you are in a home invasion.
>>55181723
None of that is as affective at stopping an intruder as a gun. You plane for the worst and expect the best. You wouldn't pay cash for a $100k car and than put liability insurance on it because you have faith in your self as a driver, would you? No, you put full coverage because other people like to drink and drive. I have a dog and cameras because for base coverage, a .357 and 12g for when my other policies aren't enough to insure my assets are protected.
>>55182316
Do you experience pain by wearing clothes or sitting down?
>>55182292
> Not train the dog.
So it's not a fighting dog the?
Just a normal, kind dog that won't get the idea it's the boss because none trains it?
Also, you didn't answer me about the alarm part.
>>55182292
>Guns make it too easy to kill people. It's a device that allows you to quickly end the life of another human being. That's not the sort of power that can be trusted with the average person.
I don't know anyone who walks down a street popping their gun off uncontrollably.
Law abiding citizens have a gun as a great equalizer. It is a tool to help them overcome a situation that they might not ordinarily survive through.
You're welcome to not own one and find other means of security and protection, but don't try to force those personal ideas upon those of us who are not scared of guns and know how to use them.
>>55182316
Two dogs! no, wait, five!
>>55182393
Sitting down is alright, however I frequently wake myself up when I sleep. If you guys want to know more, you can look up Complex Regional Pain Syndrome (CRPS)
I only mention it because I am generally interested in his response.
>>55182330
stop shitposting on /pol/, stefan.
>>55182422
He's probably just baiting but it is sadly a common attitude with anti-gun people. That you're just expected to roll the dice and hope not to get killed if someone attacks you rather than defend yourself.
It's a bit strange how even in their wildest fantasies they can't imagine themselves being in a situation where they could feel so threatened they needed to use violence.
>>55182404
>You're welcome to not own one and find other means of security and protection, but don't try to force those personal ideas upon those of us who are not scared of guns and know how to use them.
Well I am forced to live in the same society with people like you, and in my opinion, it's good public policy to restrict devices that can be used to quickly end the life of another human being from possession of the average American.
>>55182512
And statistically speaking, they likely won't be. Those statistics are always in flux however, and I suspect the immigration crisis will bring those numbers to light.
Liberals are pussies. It really is that simple.
>>55181619
>Is there a psychological reason why Liberals would rather let themselves and their whole family die, rather than use a gun?
Yes. They're not raving paranoids.
>>55182560
You are welcome to switch places with me. Come live in no guns socialist utopia
>>55182651
What harm is there in being prepared?
>>55182560
But you're not forced to live here. Move. You clearly don't belong here, and obviously don't like it here. Maybe you being born an American was a great cosmic accident, like being born the wrong gender. You should become a trans-Frenchman or something. Because America is just not for you.
>>55182560
>Well I am forced to live in the same society with people like you, and in my opinion, it's good public policy to restrict devices that can be used to quickly end the life of another human being from possession of the average American.
you're welcome to move to germany and let one of our bros from their move here.
I'm sorry you're such a pussy about guns, but I'm not your worry, the criminal is. If I have to use my gun to defend myself or someone else, Jesus is perfectly happy with me killing that criminal and get him/her off the streets.
>>55182560
You are not forced to live in the US, but you are forced to live in reality.
Pray that the day never comes when you'll need a gun.
>>55182560
Do you own any sharp knives, or are you a hypocrite?
>>55181723
COME ON
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>>55182376
thats not how it works though.
im sure there were lots of people in britain who were super pissed about giving up their guns. i never heard of anyone rebelling over it
>>55181723
THE CURRENT YEAR: THE POST
>>55181723
>own a dog
See pic related
>security
Loud noises won't ward off a killer
>lights
8spooki9mi
>>55182782
>>55182782
It's hard to kill someone with a knife. They can flee or fight back.
With a gun all you have to do is point it at them from a distance and pull the trigger. There is clearly a difference in efficacy between the two weapons.
Again, I wouldn't trust most of you on here with a damn pair of scissors, much less a device that makes it extremely easy to kill another person.
>>55183013
But it's not up to you to trust us with anything. You don't get a say in such things. I don't trust you with American citizenship. I think you ought not to have it. But it's not up to me.
See how it works?
>>55182088
>Guns make it too easy to kill other human beings. That's why they should be restricted from the average person.
Who are these other special people and what makes it right for them to take lives?
>>55183058
Six months of police training clearly earns you that right.
>>55183093
So having a bellow average IQ and wearing a uniform that only you can war because you did 6 months of training makes it completely right for you to kill people?
>>55183013
>It's hard to kill someone with a knife.
I imagine it's hard to defend yourself in any manner when you're a sissy leftist.
>>55183093
Complete with the terrible firearms qualification standards that cops have to meet? In America, the average gun owner is more competent with his weapon than the average cop.
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/04/robert-farago/study-why-police-firearms-training-sucks/
Maybe your country has better standards, but U.S. cops are barely more qualified than people who have never fired a gun before in their lives.
>>55183013
>It's hard to kill someone with a knife.
>>55183093
yea,... anyone here can pay for and go through opata training. As long as you pass, what makes a police officer better at handling guns than you?
>>55182292
I could turn my steering wheel a half inch and kill 20 people in a second.
The problem with anti gunners is projecting their violent fantasies onto people with guns. Not everyone with a firearm is a blood thirsty psycho.
All these 'pacifists' want to strip the means of defense because they know they couldn't resist the temptation to kill because they're too emotionally weak so therefore everyone else must be.
My guess would be unconscious severe low self-esteem and a guilt complex. They beleive that they aren't worth protecting and don't have the right to defend themselves, and that they deserve what's coming to them.
>>55183182
> didn't understand the assertion
>>55181619
they're sheltered in suburbia
>ctrl-f "hoplophobia"
>nothing
There's a word for the sexually immature bedwetters that have an irrational fear of weaponry. It's called hoplophobia. Coined by The Godfather himself, Jeff Cooper (PBUH)
>>55181619
>>55183249
I disagree, I find gun toting types are 9/10 more likely to be down for kneejerkviolent foreign policy decisions
>>55181619
No. They are intellectually limited and fail to comprehend that there exist people who are radically morally different. They honestly think that the baby rapist just wants to talk.
>>55182689
Being prepared means you have thought of what to do during potentially dangerous situations; something liberals like to think will never happen to them because the thought of self reliance scares them.
>>55181712
Yeah, it's not until someone holds a knife to their throats or a gang of thugs beats them half-dead do they realize the liberty a gun gives a person.
>>55181653
>shooting for the first time without ear protection
>>55186826
bill burr does a bit on that. I mean you only really need a small pistol to defend your house with realistically. Especially at night when you have to hear more than see because it's dark. An assault rifle will deafen you instantly
>>55181723
Right. Sorry, I forgot it's 2015.
>>55186503
ebin strawman desu
>>55181619
>>55181723
They've never encountered violence real life violence.
>>55187029
case in point
>>55183013
>It's hard to kill someone with a knife. They can flee or fight back.
>With a gun all you have to do is point it at them from a distance and pull the trigger. There is clearly a difference in efficacy between the two weapons.
>>55181723
>have a security system, have motion-detecting lights
You might get killed by intruder but at least you get to see it coming. Awesome.
I for one believe in right to be alive.
Leftists are all talk, just like the leftist politicians and celebrities that give speeches about how guns are evil and anyone who owns a gun should be thrown in prison, but then turn around and hire 24/7 armed security.
Bill Whittle got it right in one of his speeches. He said that if one of these leftist weenies were in an alley being viciously raped, and he casually walked over to them and gently said in their ear "I have a gun, just give me the word and I'll shoot your rapist in the head and save you" not a single one of those champagne liberals would protest and prefer the violent raping and beating continue.
They're all talk. They like taking their imaginary moral high ground at their cocktail parties while they're perfectly safe and surrounded by hired armed guards. The only thing that cures these people is a dose of reality and it's happening around the world. Here in the states, people in San Francisco, the capital of leftist degeneracy have voted out a sheriff that supported sanctuary city policies, now that it's clear many illegal immigrants are running around murdering people with impunity. In Europe, countries that allow citizens to own guns are experiencing empty gun shops because everybody realizes that they're being invaded by military aged Muslim men who want to rape and murder.
As far as the psychology goes, here's an interesting paper about why Jews hate guns so much. It's surprisingly written by a Jewish Rabbi and once you start reading this, you realize it doesn't just cover Jews, it's about 95% relevant to leftists in general. I challenge anyone to read this and tell me it doesn't call out leftists in general.
http://jpfo.org/pdf03/why-jews-hate-guns-3.1.pdf
>>55181723
>Own a dog
That will be dead once he or she's shot.
>security system
That can be smashed up.
>motion detecting lights
That can be avoided.
>>55187202
Kek.
This.
>CAPTCHA
>Select all images with Jewl(jew)ery
>>55187232
Yeah, basically it's just a way to claim moral superiority.
It's just a circlejerk to see who's the most progressive and anti-violence.
Usually they are only anti-gun when there's a possibility that some sort of shooting might happen to them. That's why leftists shout for more gun control whenever a mass shooting happens in places where people like them could be visiting or even be there (schools, unis, cinemas).
When shootings happen in the poor places of society they don't actually give a fuck because it's extremely unlikely that they would ever be victim of a poor gang member doing a drive by.
Why do we always have these pampered yuppie fucks in Washington making the decisions for everyone else? Not everyone lives in a secure neiboorhood where the police patrol 24/7. I'm only 110 pounds so a knife isn't gonna do shit for me. A gun is the reason I can stand my ground against these skinheads that live in my neighboorhood. I hate how these guys want to dictate how normal middle class citizens should live their lives despite knowing jack shit about them.
>>55187691
When was the last time pampered yuppie fucks in Washington made decisions regarding guns for everyone else? Like, 20 years ago?
>>55186561
kek
that it's so hard to be a bad guy to them despite being vaguely right wing equating you to the devil shows how they are merely victims of propaganda and not their own persons.
>>55181619
lol nice strawman faggot. please quit assuming that the rest of the world needs to compensate for lack of manhood like you do with some "BIG FUCKIN' GUNZZZZZ!!!!!!111!one!!!!!"
/pol/ isn't here to validate your kekery you SJW bitch
>>55187979
You didn't answer the question senpai.
If you were getting robbed by Tyrone and he decided to pull out his gat, why would you not want a gun to defend yourself? Are you going to use your ebin ninja skills or wait for the cops as he beats down the door to your bedroom?
>>55188200
Because attempting to draw a weapon on someone who has a gun trained on me is basically the one way to be absolutely sure I'm going to die?
This ain't the movies pal.
>>55188200
The likelihood of Tyrone robbing me is approaching zero faster than dividing by n as it approaches infinity you dumb kek. The likelihood of little Timmy shooting up my school with his dad's ruger is much higher. I choose to solve the bigger threat. Now that answers your question, you illogical nigger.
>>55183013
Not true. A knife attack comes from concealment, often into a victim's back. A blade puncture wound across a vein or an artery in the neck is often fatal, and the victim has no opportunity to defend themselves. A knife may be just as dangerous I'm the aggregate as a gun. It is all but impossible to defend oneself from a knife with a knife. The only active defense from a knife is an armed citizen with a gun
https://www.google.com/url?q=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2570996/At-27-dead-109-injured-gang-knife-wielding-men-attack-train-station-China.html&sa=U&ved=0CBgQFjADahUKEwj1lbHow_7IAhXHLyYKHR7uAtU&usg=AFQjCNGRzn6hXUcBsBj2Gq2KO_S5xECqKw
>>55188200
The thing people like you in the pro gun crowd don't understand is that basing your defense of your gun ownership rights on strawman arguments like this doesn't actually work. Anyone who can google some statistics can figure out that "Tyrone" isn't actually a threat. You're more likely to get killed every time you get in your car to drive to work. I suggest you find better arguments to support your cause, because right now you look like an idiot to anyone who isn't an uninformed basement dweller.
desu I'd even support gun rights if the argument was just that it's a freedom and America is all about the freedom. but no, you dumb faggots have to bring it down to "THE NIGGERS ARE INVADING MY HOME HELP PLEASE MORE GUNS!!!!". fuck off with that.
>tfw over 1000 rounds of ammunition arrived for my ar15 in the mail and I didnt need to sign for it
>tfw I made my ar15, and its not registered, and thats perfectly legal
I must be the scum of the Earth in the eyes of liberals
>>55181723
YOU CAN LEARN JIU JITSU AND OWN A KATANA TO STOP ANY GUN WIELDING RACIST RIGHT IN HIS TRACKS WITH A VULCAN DEATH GRIP AND A KICK TO THE BALLS
>>55188333
gang violence is infinitely higher than school shootings.
>>55188518
the fuck he isn't, go live in Detroit, Chicago, Jersey, New Orleans, or any other shithole city.
"Tyrone" thrives, and see's your noodle ass as an easy mark.
>>55182088
>Sounds like you guys live in fear
Nigga so do anti-gun people. It's just that people who are pro-guns people think more guns is the solution.
>>55188785
To gang members.
The chances of your average white person getting murdered during a home break in by a black person are very nearly 0.
>>55188785
gang member on gang member violence*
again, you are misrepresenting everything.
Jesus, when did /pol/ get filled with so many cock sucking, straight ticket voting republicans? think for yourselves a little for once.
>>55188880
So is the chance to die in a school shooting
>>55181723
I bought my gun in 2011 though
checkmate atheists
>>55188880
except it happens alot
>>55188831
Tyrone sees me as a target? unlikely, possibly, but unlikely. want to know why? because black on non black violence is just as low as any other demographic. also you clearly have never lived in a city like that before, do you really think that they're that dangerous? they might be if you're a black gang member, but not for anyone else. you really need to try doing some research.
>>55181819
>somebody who wants to commit suicide buys a gun for an easier suicide
>obviously, that means that if you have guns your desire to kill yourself increases
American liberal logic is so brain-dead it's not even funny. At least our liberals have some common sense and don't just parrot whatever their SJW professors tell them.
>>55188966
oh look, you posted proof that restrictions on gun ownership keep acts of gun violence low. are you even trying anon?
>>55181619
I wish I lived in a country that allows me to buy a gun.
>ŧfw I have to literally prove my life is under imminent threat to even begin the process of asking for a gun permit
Protectionism: Not even once.
>>55189059
nigga, I live in New Orleans NOW.
they ARE dangerous, and New Orleans is less dangerous than Detroit, which I also have been too.
you have no idea what the fuck you are talking about, none.
It's easy to think you don't need guns and all blacks are good people when you live in white gated communities that arrest and curb stop any black that gets within 30 yards of the neighborhood
>>55186873
>An assault rifle will deafen you instantly
A lot of supersonic pistol rounds are going to cause a hell of a lot more hearing damage/deafening than subsonic intermediate rifle rounds.
>>55181786
JEWS YES!
>>55189193
really? show some proof then. how many times have you been robbed, buddy? how many times have your friends been robbed? your family? your coworkers? quit with your bullshit you little whiner. looks like da big gubbament is gonna take your guns away, and for good reason. get over it. people as dumb as you shouldn't get them anyway.
>>55181619
Cowardice, I guess.
>>55189193
anyways, I'm done with my shit. so I'm not responding anymore. good banter I guess.
Cowardice.
>>55186873
confirmed for never shot at an indoor range.
>>55181619
>>55181723
they believe this shit
Under a system of comprehensive gun control, it would be hard for the person breaking in to get a gun themselves.
True, there might be a period where there are illegal guns floating around, but that's going to be more under control as time passes. They'll be taken and production restrictions will prevent new ones from being circulated.
It worked for Japan and Australia.
>>55182237
To the contrary m8
A well trained dog and a handgun in your bedside table is the best home defense system conceivable.
>what are you afraid of
Is there a term for this meme/fallacious argument?
REMINDER: Always combat authoritarian leftism with cited refutations, then dismissive ridicule. Pic related. Sorry children, guns are for adults.
>>55181653
>>55183093
>shitposting this hard
Never change, Australia
>>55189132
Pls explain how you got that conclusion from that table
>>55189230
Unless you're shooting 300 blk I doubt you're going to get many sub sonic intermediate rifle calibers unless you reload or buy special sun sonic rounds.
Hearing damage is irrelevant when it comes to killing those who deserve it
>>55181723
Good. Now i'll use a sword instead since although it's as expensive as all those things you mentioned it will at least get the job done when i need to remove an immediate danger.
Also a few phrases you might want to learn since some people will use them to refer to you when you spew unrealistic bullshit:
>Armchair-leftist
>Champagne-communist
At least poor people can be excused for lacking education but fellows like you who inherited money and have no concept of value and standards reek of ignorance.
>>55189312
>show me anecdotal evidence.
while I HAVE been robbed, it wouldn't matter if I hadn't, Anecdotal is anecdotal.
>>55189637
You're a moron, they sell subsonic rounds freely. Any clown defending their house knows that it sucks to fire at home. They should account for it beforehand. Be prepared.
It's simple you don't need a gun for protection because the harder it is to get one prevents crimes it is that easy to understand
>>55189776
You're also a moron, I could buy a glock for 500$ 2 blocks away from my house in the projects. Licenses and registrations cost 1500$ in NYC. With no guarantee of actually getting anything. Criminals don't register guns and they are committing a crime. They do not care about your laws.
>>55183013
>OHMFOASIJDISHS BAAAN ASSAULT SCISSORS!
That's how you sound dude.
>>55189761
You're literally retarded if you think unsurpressed sub sonic rifle rounds will be noticeably quieter than normal rounds inside of your house.
>>55189870
Thanks for proving my point that easy access to guns causes crimes if there was very strict and difficult laws to obtain them crime rates would lower. Also, the easier it is to have access to guns the easier it would be for a mentally ill person to obtain one to cause a mass shooting. Checkmate you cannot defeat my superior logic with my high intelligence.
>>55188333
>the likely hood of Tyrone robbing me approaches zero
>the likelihood of Timmy shooting up his school is much higher
It always amazes me that there are people that are this delusional in the face of yearly repeated, publicly available data on the subject.
https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/tables/expanded-homicide-data-table-11
Pic not related, but will still cause anon I'm responding to cognitive conflict
>>55189906
Noticeably no, but the dB level will be. Saving you from actual hearing damage
>>55181619
Liberals aren't actually against guns. They just don't want conservatives to have them.
>>55188880
Any source on that?
>>55190019
Illegal guns are the problem. Ex. Guns being moved from Mexican cartels and sold to gangs in the city. 99.99% of legal guns are not used in crimes. Therefore, Shall not be infringed.
Get fucked commie
>>55181619
Liberals want more government. They think someone else will protect them. Liberals are fucking stupid weak piles of shit.
Do yourselves a favor and go get a gun for your own safety.
Three years ago my girlfriend was out of town .I was in the basement watching TV with all upstairs lights were turned off. My dog (statfordshire terrier) perked up and started to growl .By the time I reached my trusty pistol two teenage nigger burglars were creeping down my stairs. My dog rushed the first nigger but he was armed and my dog was shot and killed .I shot and wounded the first one the second little shitskin turned and ran. The I shot lived but is confined to a wheelchair with a colostomy bag the other was located two days later both are spending the next 14 years in prison. I feel good about shooting the little nigga too bad the other split before I could put a chunk of lead in his ass too. Now I carry concealed because of threats from his nigger tribe because I had the audacity to protect my life and home.
One of the main reasons im pro gun is simply because I like guns, guns are cool.
>>55190027
God I hate that image so much.
>Adjusted for population
It only adjusts for the chance of the attacker being black or white, but it doesn't take into account the chance of the victim being black or white.
>>55190088
If this is true then why is mass shootings a daily thing in America? Checkmate
>>55190221
>daily mass shootings
Source?
Checkmate you lying piece of shit
>>55182006
Ever heard of a deterent?
In terms of home security thats all guns really are.
Dogs keep thieves away because there are other people who are less trouble who dont have them.
Nra stickers, gunracks, and prominently displayed shotguns keep thieves away because it would be easier and safer to rob the next guy.
>>55190259
http://www.livescience.com/51991-why-america-is-prone-to-mass-shootings.html
>>55181619
pic related
>>55181619
Mental illness. That's the only reason I can think of why some people value the lives of predators more than their own.
>>55190333
>>55190333
Having a pool in your backyard increases your chance of drowning you moron.
>>55190110
Fuck that nigger that shot your dog. He deserves to be in that wheelchair.
>>55190668
getting in a car increases your chance of being in a car crash
>>55182955
Poor pupper ;_;
I honestly don't care if they get chased by knife wielding maniacs because I'm not going to save their lives this time, I'm just going to let them die.
>>55190770
Yep.
>>55181619
check out r/k selection theory. It should answer all of your questions
>>55181723
ban assault dogs
>>55182088
>Guns make it too easy to kill other human beings.
But that isn't innately a bad thing.
Consider the following: An old man's house is broken into by a violent criminal. Without any guns, the old man doesn't stand a chance against even a reasonably fit burglar, same with anybody who is physically disabled. A gun means that even a wheelchair-bound cripple of an old man can stand on even ground with Tyrone and his ragtag troupe of surprise-repomen, and no other weapon or method of home/self defence can do that.
To take guns away is enabling a mentality of might-makes-right.
>>55181723
You can shoot a dog
You can shoot a security system
You can shoot motion-detecting light
But you can't shoot a gun
>>55182292
Your trust is neither requested nor required, though your self-importance is obviously inflated beyond reason.
What other fantasies will you share with the internet world today?
>>55182088
So use the dog to alert you for when you need your gun.
>>55182292
I bet you'd love a monarchy too.
>>55186873
>an assault rifle will deafen you instantly
>thinks every scurry blek salt riful is a fully automatic baby killer 9000 with armor piercing heat seeking cop killer bullets.
Notice how the Australian sneakily turns a seemingly normal post into a shitpost. Truly these convicts are clever creatures.
>>55181723
You can buy a huge fucking dog, but unless you raise it aggressively as an attack dog it will think the burglar is a friend.
Guard dogs are way more dangerous than guns to their owners, kids, and neighbors.
>>55182376
Sauce plz...sounds like you pulled that from your ass.
Stupidity.
>>55182651
"Raving" and "Paranoids"
This is the fun part, where the feels are automatically escalated to the worst possible scenario, instead of reasoning that degrees exist. Sensationalism.
>>55181723
Protip: security systems are remarkably ineffective. They're full of false positives, so in many jurisdictions cops won't bother responding.
Liberals are weak shitheads who want teachers and parents to hold their hands even though they're adults now.
They're the little wieners to told on you if you were doing anything neat or cool, the faggots.
>>55181723
I have a dog, guns, and assorted axes/hatchets. If someone wants to intrude, they're fucking dead.
>>55181619
Liberalism is a mental illness.
Allowing these people to attempt to operate in a society they don't understand is cruel and unusual.
They should be institutionalized for their own safety, and ours.
>>55182376
>Half-assedly citing kellerman
Come on. It's 2015.
>>55189513
what the fuck is he doing!? JUST WHY!?
>>55182560
So let's start banning knives and hammers also. We should just ban all tools and heavy objects and replace everything in the world with Styrofoam and place padding on all the wall whIle were at it.
Humans will find a way to kill each other for what the other person has. Defending yourself starts by accepting that reality. You live in a fantasy world that I don't care to be part of.
>>55181723
Hello Mr. Brinks :^)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cMpKDZDjBWM
>>55194054
I have one merely to provide proof of unauthorized entry for my defense when I empty my magazine into the intruders face.
>>55183013
Stop dodging questions. You are repeating yourself because you talked yourself into a corner.
>inb4 you run away like a little bitch or try to divert the conversation again
because libs live in relatively white communities with little to no shitskins doing crime
>>55186503
What the fuck do you know about anything Canada? You should apologize now for being such a dumbass. Enjoying your new PM yet?
>>55194106
>tfw da libertarian burrs win da Darwin bowl
>>55186873
What happens when the intruder has a shotgun or an assault rifle. The nig nogs have more than just some small pistol most of the time and it would be like bringing a knife to a gun fight. There is no sane reason to limit yourself in a defensive situation. I think most people need a reality check that there are still predators out there more aggressive than they can comprehend.
Submit P.C. Act meaning Population Control Act to Purge any Defect
>>55187979
>retard detected
>>55195121
this honestly. I dont know why so many people assume nothing bad can happen. they just think they will be fine because "That doesnt happen in America, its 2015" as if tyrone gives a shit what year it is.
Honestly when people say you dont need a gun for protection I laugh a little inside and am just waiting for when a katrina like event comes to my area. Goodbye dumb liberals, you will all be stolen from and/or killed.
>>55188333
>still in school
>doesn't know real statistics
Keep studying motherfucker. You have a lot to learn about the real world.
>>55182088
My neighboors house was broken some new years eve 10 years back, their dog (german sheperd) ran inside OUR toolshed for hours, and he pooped too. Climbing a 2 meter wall in the process because he was so scared. Fuck your puppy HD. I could fill up a steak with pieces of sponge and neutralize any dog in a Home invasion scenario too. Dogs are useless, unless you have a herd of em and a dog handler ... With a gun.
>>55188518
The arguments aren't strawmen actually. You just don't know what reality is.
>>55188333
>The likelihood of Tyrone robbing me is approaching zero faster
>>55181723
>A dog
People are allergic. Have to take care of a life for 12-14 years $$$$$
>Security System
Response time of police still isn't quicker than a the speed of a bullet $$$$$$
>Motion Detecting Lights
Criminals are not Vampires.
>>55188880
Bait detected. No one is this fucking dumb.
>>55189059
Bitch I live in a city like that. Fortunately we can have guns. This shit still happens. How about you declare your stance on gun ownership and put a sign on your lawn letting people know you're gun free. No one would target you right?
>>55195567
It's actually relatively accurate.
But it's not reason to be disarmed, either.
Shit happens.
>>55189312
My friend who used to live below me war robbed at knife point. The kicked in his door and held a knife at his gfs throat. She got slashed when they left. Probably could have defended himself with a gun right?
>>55189361
Lol run away you little bitch. All you did was make sure your opinion has been disregarded as retarded.
>>55194310
I like how it's almost making the connection that something isn't right but it's to retarded to take that last crucial step.
>>55190019
Criminals will always have access to guns. Good luck getting them from criminals without guns. Checkmate yourself faggot with a handgun to the head.
>>55190221
It isnt...besides what the fuck do you know about America Canadabro? Go live in your country and I will live in mine. I don't tell you how to live your life, don't tell us how to live ours. That's as simple as it gets, you have no idea how retarded you actually are.
>>55182560
We already do restrict gun use. We have gun free zones.
gun owners suffer from small man syndrome. The vast majority of gun owners are manlets on average, and most don't even have a wife and kids.
Pic related, here are the actual gun owners pol are referring to
If someone is unwilling to take a life to preserve their own or their families, then they do not deserve to live.
>>55181819
>fires are more than twice as likely to start in rooms that contain a fire extinguisher!
God damn you people are fucking stupid. You keep a fire extinguisher in kitchens and near gas stations because that's where fires start. People own guns near shit neighborhoods because that's where you need guns.
>>55196752
nice smear work.
>>55196782
this.
>>55196752
>t. man who got robbed 10 times
>>55196857
I don't get robbed because I don't live in a shithole and I'm not in abject poverty you fucking nigger
>>55196985
>Breaking news
>Danish family murdered; no guns were used for self-defense
or
>Breaking news
>Danish family fended off murderous thieves
how do you want your family fám
>>55197105
>murderous theives
Why do you have such a retarded American tier view on criminality? Theives are there to steal things, not bust down the door and murder your family. The likelihood of that happening increases infinitely if you decide to be Le American hero and intervene when someone is trespassing.
How much of a manbaby do you have to be to risk your life over a lost tv lmao
>>55197271
If Thieves see you while they're robbing your home, you're going to get killed. There's no denying this.
>>55197271
stealing a single nail is worth getting executed.
>>55197271
DENMARK YES!
>>55197271
kek
you do know what thieves do you when they get spotted
either run away or defend themselves
ALWAYS BEEN LIKE THAT
faggot
also its your home, not the home of the thief, so you have any right to defend it from some low scum who didnt know better than to steal hardearned things
>>55196752
Nice tactic, just like a bitch to attack manhood though. Can't shame people to accept what you want them to.
>>55197271
Wow you are really out of touch. Keep your shit logic in your shit county.
>>55181619
I'm Liberal and you're just making it ridiculous by phrasing it like that. Of course I would rather use a gun than let my whole family die. But that isn't reality.
>>55197698
DUDE
>>55197698
>But that isn't reality.
What did you mean by this?
>>55197614
You lose a debate then resort to childish attacts. Good luck having anyone take what you say seriously.
Liberals typically don't live around or deal with niggers so they get to feel safe.
>>55197764
People will not invade your home and violate your rights to property and life, of course.
>>55197571
Wew lad that's some true heros story right there. Stop watching Hollywood films and get real here. Your angst is brought on by years of insecurity manifesting itself into an emotional attachment to your firearm. What is infinitely more irresponsible in a scenario where an intruder is in your house, is to confront him. Putting yourself and your family at risk. And not knowing what the intruders carrying on him.
In the real world, people call the police, and the first responders will have a description and search the surrounding neighbourhood. This is basic policing
>>55181619
They're afraid of niggers and what niggers do, but they cant be vocal about not liking niggers, so theyre vocal about what niggers do: shoot poeple. But you cant just tell niggers not ot buy guns, so theyre going the roundabout way and trying to make them banned for everyone, because they think that if no one can get guns, there would be no more niggers shooting.
>>55182088
can't tell if bait or high school student
>>55197764
There isn't a black and white choice of "either use a gun or your family dies" in real life.
>>55197842
Can't tell if bait or not...
>>55181619
Cool strawman bro
Also, fuck off Aussie-fag. Your whole country is fucking gun-grabbers!
>>55197864
ok call the police when refugee rapes you or your gf then you faggot
will help i guarantee :^)
>>55181619
>Is there a psychological reason why Liberals would rather let themselves and their whole family die, rather than use a gun?
Evolution dictates that all creatures have 2 modes:
Fight or Flight.
Given the context, all Liberals are known as "Flight" creatures. Incapable of self defense, and more empathic by nature. They are more likely to walk off sullenly than to defend themselves or their homeland.
That is why their 'progressive' schemes tend to be focused around feelings and other arbitrary emotions rather than logic and facts.
>>55197864
No, he has an emotional attachment to dominium, which has been apart of Western civilization for centuries.
The right to property and life is and will always be a foundation of Western principles.
>>55197963
>Austria
Kek
>>55181619
They wouldn't, they just believe they are safe between the Police and their front door and their nice neighbours. They are mistaken.
>>55181619
I always figured it was because of a combination of
>indoctrination in schools
>blue states having criminal-hugging self-defense laws
And libshits proceeding to apply this to the rest of the country because their brains are not matured yet.
>>55198041
Your right to property and life does not include preemptive shooting from trigger happy retards
>>55182662
Nice Loss :^)
>>55197889
Are you serious?
Tell that to Tyrone after he just broke in your house with a gun, maybe he'll just rape your wife.
>>55197864
This post gave me cancer. Have you ever been to America? I bet you haven't and the only thing you know is from movies which is why you keep referencing them in your argument. Get your head out of your ass.
Liberal here. Own a remington 870 and a glock. I'll fuck up any home invader.
>>55198045
>wew lad i feel so safe here
>t`bh i dont need a gun
>better call the police when i get robbed
>oh my very valuable necklace from my grand grandfather got stolen
>who cares i will never breed anyway because this world still believes that guns have a purpose
>t. an effeminate liberal danish male
>>55181653
Came here expecting to find this.
>First post.
Never. Fucking. Fails. Well played M8.
>>55198159
I'm mocking your hero villain story take on criminality. You're all obsessed with niggers raping your wives because you're sexually insecurity so you like to play army like a fat disgusting manlet to compensate for your social autism of not being able to defuse situations
>>55198104
But it does.
The invasion of ones home is a direct attack on the person or family inside, the attacker has forfeited his right to life upon attack.
>>55187232
you shouldn't categorize "leftism" with democratic parties, and what not.
i'm a marxist (leftist), and i believe all restrictions on firearms should be lifted.
It has something to do with libshits not living in a nigger infested area. It also likely that have slowly been brainwashed into thinking criminals are the good guys at heart. Topple that with not guns being scary and they end up thinking owning a gun is the worst evil you could do.
>>55198245
>being THIS attached to personal belongings
HUR I WURKED HARD FOR MUH PROPERTY
>>55197864
>In the real world, people call the police, and the first responders will have a description and search the surrounding neighborhood. This is basic policing
>>55197983
>making blanket statements about everyone
All republicans are stupid, Christan assholes who attempt to shoot down gun control legislature with only the argument of "muh guns"
>>55190260
>NRA stickers
My old boss had one on his car and one on the door for that very reason.
He hated guns, but he thought if people thought he had them, they'd rob someone else.
Pretty brilliant
>>55198302
>>55196752
hurr durr
that's like claiming car owners suffer from fat legs syndrome.
>>55181619
something to do with how they have been subjected to the same propaganda all their lives about how they are bad, evil, and should go extinct. maybe?
