>http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/05/us-mideast-crisis-syria-idUSKCN0SU0XY20151105
kek, between this and the hidden russian deaths classified as suicide it's Afghanistan all over again.
>>55175414
Between american supporting terrorism and strinking from the shadows (like true jews) it's Afghanistan all over again
>>55175414
Retreating from one town after capturing numerous others is not bad. They were probably retreating while waiting for chemical suits to deal with the mustard gas.
There's only one thing Russia is importing more of after sanctions: Cargo 200
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_200_(code_name)
>>55175414
>decades of US created militants, and billions of dollars to be stopped in a few weeks by Russia
I like your optimism for Russia but...
>>55175642
Basically this
>>55175414
Fuck off, NGO!
We know it's the US shitposting.
Full damage control.
Please cite your annamed, high ranking military sources on CNN.
Of course you can always blame Russia for bombing a hospital when you bomb doctors without borders.
>This thread is spam. SAGE, HIDE!
>Iran is in syria
>Hezbollah is in syria
>isis and al qaeda is in syria
>Assad runs Syria
>now the Russians are in Syria
>MFW when our enemies are destroying each other for us
It's just a shame we can get China and North Korea involved as well.
>>55177164
Ahem.... US is in Syria also
>>55177274
...and doing as little as possible.
>>55176114
Everything will be alright :)
Enjoy your goulash.
>>55175642
/thread
>>55177402
Burning billions in intelligence networks and funding is a joke compared to the 1 million per day Russia is wasting.
Assad has already signed billionaire contracts with Putin to reconstruct Syrian infrastructure.
>>55177402
with 50 of our best soldiers in there, which we announced to the world!
SAA has re-captured over 50 equally sizeable towns over the last month. Not that someone expects dow jones media outlet to report on that, much less ameritard subhuman to comprehend basic arithmetics.
this is just the west playing up 1 "victory" when it has nothing but bad news on the horizon . give it 2 quarters
between a lack of gdp growth and further euro devaluation in the race to the bottom i doubt they will even bother with covering their loss in syria when the time comes
hell even if they won you hand syria over to isis congratz america way to fund terrorism
>>55175414
no need to to deify us, we are not gods, we have during the Arab Israeli wars have been anegdote about Arabs and their combat qualities
>>55177402
They are doing everything they can to make the rebels win this war, don't be stupid.
>>55177402
>2600 air strikes in a year
>CIA training and equipping "rebels" since at least 2013
>500 million spent for US army training and equipping "rebels"
>countless TOW missiles supplied at $180,000 each
>Now 50 special forces troops on the ground
I think were in pretty deep.
>>55178524
>50 troops on the ground is in deep
lol
>>55178596
That's pretty deep. Not all wars and battles are on the scale of the Vietnam War, senpai
>>55177586
>SAA has re-captured over 50 equally sizeable towns over the last month. Not that someone expects dow jones media outlet to report on that, much less ameritard subhuman to comprehend basic arithmetics.
true
>>55175414
CNN monkey so brainwashed and easy manipulated
>>55178524
Restricting yourself to air strikes (very limited ones, none of which are directed at Assad) a mens basketball team sized ground force, and funding for rebels is what the US does when it decides that it's not very serious about effecting an outcome. For most of the war we've been doing even less than that, which may have been even more preferable.
>>55177402
No, they're doing it as secretly as possible.
>>55178255
I swear it's like night and day to hear foreigners talk about what they think the US syrian policy is compared to what is actually happening in the halls of power. If you really listen to what is being said, the consensus in DC, even among democrats, is that the White House is dragging it's feet.
>>55179827
Is that why nearly every major media outlet reported that we were sending in about 75 trained rebels, and then it was widely reported by those same outlets that all of them surrendered/defected to Al Nusra?
>>55177555
all we need is 50 of your best men....
>>55179904
>75
Yeah you just trained 75 guys and it didn't work and you guys gave up
Right
You don't get official numbers and statistics from the war you're gov is fighting right now under proxy. But, you live in democracy so sometimes news get their hands on partial info(75 trained rebels).
>>55175414
>Rebels say better organization and new tactics have helped them fight back, as supporters including Saudi Arabia and Qatar send new weapons supplies.
Qatar,u really wanna fuck with russia you filthy Jawa sandcoons?
>>55180059
So it's Qatar vs USA vs Russia vs Israel vs Iran in Syria?
Did I miss anyone?
>>55179849
because yanks know exactly what their intelligence is doing?
Fat Retard
>>55180127
Where do you stand shlomo?
>>55180013
>asking me to disprove a negative
Yeah okay
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/10/world/middleeast/pentagon-program-islamic-state-syria.html?_r=0
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/10/world/middleeast/pentagon-program-islamic-state-syria.html?_r=0
>Mustapha Sejari, one of the rebels who says he's approved for the U.S. training program, told The Daily Beast that he and his 1,000 men are on the verge of withdrawing their candidacies. The issue: the American government’s demand that the rebels can’t use any of their newfound battlefield prowess or U.S.-provided weaponry against the army of Bashar al-Assad or any of its manifold proxies and allies, which include Iranian-built militias such as Lebanese Hezbollah. They must only fight ISIS, Washington insists.
>>55180136
and you do?
>>55180187
>http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/31/key-rebels-ready-to-quit-u-s-fight-vs-isis.html
>“We submitted the names of 1,000 fighters for the program, but then we got this request to promise not to use any of our training against Assad,” Sejari, a founding member of the Revolutionary Command Council, said. “It was a Department of Defense liaison officer who relayed this condition to us orally, saying we’d have to sign a form. He told us, ‘We got this money from Congress for a program to fight ISIS only.’ This reason was not convincing for me. So we said no.”
>>55180234
>http://www.defenseone.com/threats/2015/10/obama-cancels-syrian-train-and-equip-program/122695/
>President Barack Obama abruptly halted the U.S. effort to find and build a moderate Syrian opposition force on Friday after more than one year and a $500-million budget had failed to produce any significant cohort or gains in the conflict.
>>55180202
If you follow think-thank information, it's easy to know what you're doing.
2/3 of murricans dont know where ukraine or syria is located.
top kek
>>55180264
>Instead, the Defense Department will focus on training a small group of Syrian leaders in Turkey, with a promise to provide U.S. air cover to their units when they head back into the fight, and to send additional arms and equipment to those units already showing progress inside Syria. Obama administration officials said Friday they still want local forces to fight the Syrian conflict — and that U.S.-trained Syrians were to engage and fight the Islamic State, but not Syrian state military forces of President Bashar al-Assad.
It's so fucking obvious that this typical "lead from behind." You're not American, so you have no idea how the president has been absolutely pilloried for it.
>>55180161
Survival of western civ would be nice, so against Qatar and Iran.
>>55180187
>>55180234
Look, I don't care, I don't trust any gov to say the whole truth nowadays.
If you trust them, well, that's your choice, but I think they are doing much more in secret in Syria.
>>55180303
You're making a claim that there is some vast, undisclosed training program in addition to the one that has been publicly acknowledged. You're making the claim, I am not. It's up to you to prove it.
>2/3 of murricans dont know where ukraine or syria is located.
You have any stats to back that up
>>55180408
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/wheres-ukraine-84-percent-americans-dont-know-survey-says-n84051
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/syria-obama-putin-russia-discord-214677
>Vladimir Putin’s intervention in Syria is creating new rifts inside an exhausted and in some cases demoralized Obama national security team, where officials pushing for bolder action see the president as stubbornly unwilling to assume new risk as he nears his final year in office.
>Current and former Obama officials say the president’s reluctance to respond more assertively against Putin is signaling U.S. weakness and indecision. “We’re just so reactive,” said one senior administration official. “There’s just this tendency to wait” and see what steps other actors take.
>>55180479
....and Syria?
>>55180408
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2013/09/03/most-americans-cant-find-syria-on-a-map-so-what/
>"You’d expect folks in the U.S. Department of Defense to know the location of the place they’re probably about to bomb," write the authors. But "only 57 percent of the answers we got from inside the DoD were right."
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>>55180539
>>55180479
Congratulations. Unfortunately it has nothing to do with topic at hand.
>one town acptured by rebels
>ignoring the many captured by the army
>all the deaths classed as suicide
>last i checked that was 1
Wow 1 dead and maybe 50-100 million spent on airstrikes, total afghanistan/10 russia will cannibalize itself by the end of the month
Why do Americans support radical Islam?
Shouldn't white-ish, Christian nations stick together?
>>55180322
Are you a jew, or are you just proxyfagging?
If your legit I have some questions
>>55180127
Saudi Arabia
>>55180594
Because the Saudis are willing to ignore Israel for a little bit to fuck with Iran, two things the US government wants.
>>55179640
o man that pic made me lol in anger
>>55180564
>not even knowing where the place is which we're bombing
what can go wrong
Can someone explain why America is so asshurt over Assad? If it just joined with Russia behind him this whole thing would be over in a month. This "moderate rebels" story doesn't really fly? They are far and away the weakest of the three factions in the region. And all the weapons given to them just end up in ISIS's hands anyway. Why would you even assume that these rebels and ISIS consider themselves two distinct group? Both have a common enemy in Assad.
>>55180612
Wouldn't say I'm a Jew per se because I'm uncut and celebrate Christmas(a version of it), But am and Israeli citizen currently posting from Tel Aviv.
>>55180684
>Tel Aviv
You ever drive to gaza on weekends to throw rocks at the monkeys that live there?
>>55180666
Oh so now you believe the US news media? But when they report on developments in Syria, they're just wrong or full of shit? You can't have it both ways.
It's just an ad homimen attack on the American public anyway. It doesn't address the administration's policy, which what I was arguing with you about. I'm pretty sure they know where the bombs are falling
>>55180594
If Texas doesn't secede, would you Russkies be willing to take in a white Texan? I'm willing to work, and I'll even join your military if I have to.
>>55180730
No but in the last war I was sitting on a roof in Ashkelon with a friend and we watched them being bombed and shooting back. Was awesome.
>>55180670
It's because Obomba WANTS ISIS to win, and they will if Bernie or Shillary get elected. Most people where I'm at fucking hate how we're doing fuck all against the goat-fuckers and how our relationship with Russia has been all but destroyed.
>>55180781
Did Hitler do anything wrong?
Please consider us Russia in your airstrike strategy, in australia.
>>55180846
Yeah, he could of gotten EU ridden of Jews and other minorities without sacrificing so many German lives in a war, by transporting them. Not like they fought back anyway.
Otherwise he was just doing what he thought was right, and Germany agreed - who am I to say a whole nation was wrong?
>>55180926
How does Israel in general see Hitler? I saw Natanyawatshisname say it was the jews fault or some shit the other day for the lolocaust. Whats the general feels/sentiment about WW2 in Israel.
>>55180670
Cause Saudi Arabia is still mad they can't have pipeline to Europe as long as Assad says no.
>alah akbar! regime change now!
>>55180968
We are heavily brainwashed about it through school, and it's quite the taboo. Not a while ago a law passed forbidding citizens from calling public workers(cops, gov, etc.) Nazis.
So yeah people we're really surprised when bib said hitler was a good boy and those palis made him shoah us.
I have to say though, the younger generation is far less touchy about the whole subject.
>>55181063
I never really noticed the strategic location of Syria. It sits at a bottleneck and touches the sea.
>>55180322
>Look, I don't care, I don't trust any gov to say the whole truth nowadays
It's not even a case of just believing the government, I'm also referring to information dredged up by journalists covering the war.
>>55181196
But do you know how partial this info is?
Is it a fraction of their actions in Syria? Or is it most of it?
I'm not debating btw, I'm legitimately don't know.
>>55179904
Pentagon program=/= Cia program
>>55181329
>>55181334
>"The collection of foreign intelligence is accomplished in a variety of ways, not all of them either mysterious or secret. This is particularly true of overt intelligence, which is information derived from newspapers, books, learned and technical publications, official reports of government proceedings, radio and television. Even a novel or play may contain useful information about the state of a nation." — Allen Dulles, The Craft of Intelligence
You're right, we don't have a full picture of what the US doing in Syria, but we can make a generalized harassment based on general trends.
>>55181457
*assessment
>>55181457
And you're assessment is that the USA is doing as less as possible?
Because I'm certain that both of our nations are (at least) partly responsible for ISIS. Maybe at this point we need to do as little as possible, but only because we have dome more than enough.
>>55181334
Both are controlled by ZOG, though.
>>55181516
>And you're assessment is that the USA is doing as less as possible?
Yes
>Congressional committees held up weapons deliveries for months over fears that U.S. arms would not prove decisive in the rebels' efforts to oust President Bashar Assad and his government and could well end up in the hands of Islamist militants.
Because the control of arms shipments inside Syria was uncertain, the US was always hesitated providing lethal aide. Despite Saudi objections, they opposed the shipment of anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons, and outright stopped the flow of small arms and nonlethal aide at signs of trouble. The CIA had some limited influence over logistics, but it was not enough to guarantee that gulf state sponsored guns did not end up in hands of al-Qaeda. So in other words, even at the earlier stages of the conflict there had been considerable vacillation on our part.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/27/us-usa-syria-rebels-idUSBREA0Q1S320140127#y0gCZQISUGMuO2Ob.97
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/25/world/middleeast/arms-airlift-to-syrian-rebels-expands-with-cia-aid.html?pagewanted=3
>>55175414
fuck off NSA
>>55181516
The ONLY reason shit is as bad as it is over there right now is because Obama was elected specifically to get us out of Iraq. That was the main crux of his platform.
So despite the generals saying it was a bad idea, he went and did it anyways, because he's a fucking idiot as are the people who voted for him.
>>55181820
So what's the point? Obama is an idiot? I knew that already.
>despite the generals saying it was a bad idea
Might as well be the reason to continue bush's plan to invade the middle east.
>>55181871
I believe the anger after 9/11 was a bit misdirected, but something had to be done. It wasn't just the government, the public wanted blood too.
So basically, I'm strictly presenting my opinion on the basis that US intervention in the middle east was inevitable and our exit was less than graceful.
>>55181995
>It wasn't just the government, the public wanted blood too
Here's the point when you'll think I'm an idiot. I really don't think 9/11 was an accident, and I think the gov was at least aware.
And I think that they let it happen so the public will want blood, and it worked.
And I think you did not exit the middle east. You brought down Lybia and Syria to their knees after the Iraq war was over.
>>55182165
>>55181995
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXS3vW47mOE
>>55182165
>>55182165
Of all the players who likely could have done a false flag like that, I would say it's Mossad. CIA possibly too, but if Americans did know about it, only a very exclusive number did. Everyone else was kept in the dark.
>>55182183
Yeah, I've seen that.
>>55182236
Yeah I'm certain that it's Mossad and CIA btw. I think much of the power govs have is used freely by intelligence agencies.
Despite all the memes and shit these guys get, I have now found respect for them. Instead of just giving up and saying "fuck it, fuck syria", they are still fighting, even though they have Assad and Russia as their enemies, ISIS as their enemies, and most of the world thinking they are on the same side as ISIS
>>55180594
Cause fuck you bro
Get Jihaded on
>>55182363
>mistaking brainwashed idiocy for courage
Go also suck mark harding the isis autist's dick, why don't you? He also valiantly shitposts for ISIS every day here.
>>55183339
>implying i'm shitposting for isis
you see, you just proved my point, the amount of shit these guys get from the west and everyone else, for apparently being ISIS, when really they are fighting them, and dying in the fields, trying to get them out of syria.
>>55179640
dafuq?
>>55183398
>the amount of shit these guys get from the west
The west supports the FSA. It's the Russians and other enemies of freedom who oppose them.
>>55175414
>rebels
>>55183593
i mean literal kiddies of the west, and most of the media. It was obama that started all this "moderate" terminology bullshit, that people actually call them out for not being moderate, when you realize, how the fuck are you going to be moderate in a civil war
We just don't like seeing shit done explicitly. A fighter jet drops a bomb on a bunch of enemy soldiers, blowing them apart, causing some instant death and causing some of them to die painfully because of burns, and we don't blink an eye. But when the FSA does shit like beheadings to enemy soldiers, we start chimping out and calling them barbaric.
Do you ever think about that?
>>55183398
>implying I implied you're shitposting for isis
No, you're just shitposting for the same kind of mudslime radicals, by considering their typical braindead infighting as something of note. Just pointing out you're the same kind of autist as the jerseyfag, that's all.
>>55183759
>bomb
>kills by burning
LAWL. That's exactly what mark the autist claimed once. Toppest of keks. You better change your proxy now, mark.
>>55183593
THEY HAVE THE WORD "FREE" RIGHT THERE IN THEIR NAME.
I MEAN, COME ON, ENEMIES OF THAT WHICH IS FREE.
IT IS AS THOUGH YOU WERE UNAWARE OF WHAT YEAR IT CURRENTLY IS.
>>55177552
>billions is nothing compared to a million a day!
>Russia has been at it for 30 days
Learn math, anon.
>>55183871
the FSA was actually started off by SAA soldiers that wanted the regime to change. It is true that they got some volunteers from all over the world, but Assad literally has Iranian soldiers, Hezbollah soldiers, and now Russian air-support to fight for him
>>55184025
also inb4 im isis, fuck isis desu
They took a civil war between an allegedly bad government dictatorship, and a group of rebels that wanted change, and used it to their own advantage
Most of the time FSA is fighting to take back territory ISIS took, and liberate those cities that are living under the ISIS yolke
Now however, with ISIS in the scene, Assad really doesn't look that bad. I just wish he would be willing to sit down with the opposition (and that the opposition would also sit down with him) and try and fix this situation with diplomacy, even if it meant him having to respectfully and honourable step down. I truly believe that the FSA leadership, and to an extent, Assad want that, but both sides are too far up in their ego to sit down and talk
Most of you guys really just want another WW3, and want this to become some huge battleground between Russia and the USA. I actually want this war to end
>>55184025
Yeah, if FSA still existed as a force of note, and not just as media label for a rag-tag of infighting radical mudslime bands with no central command, I might have even wondered what it has to do with anything. Meanwhile, the majority of Syrian population wants Assad to win, so much for muh "regime change" support, guess those SAA soldiers were in the wrong. All the while the democratically elected legitimate president of Syria invites external forces to help him, which somehow translates for you to a-ok for international terrorists to flock in too. But I guess that's the kind of logic one is to expect of a mudslime admirer.
>>55184303
>Most of you guys really just want another WW3, and want this to become some huge battleground between Russia and the USA. I actually want this war to end
Then you'd have supported the forces of the democratically elected syrian leader, that, btw despite the huge territorial losses now protects 80% of the population of Syria. US does nothing with ISIS but pushing it into Syria. I'm fairly sure they'd have preferred even ISIS to overtake Assad. Meanwhile ISIS is funded by the NATO-ally Turkey buying oil from them. So much for "fuck isis" campaign.
>>55184025
>that wanted the regime to change
Yeah to get the Qatar-Turkey pipeline through Syria.
>>55184422
it really is no surprise that people don't want to change governments in the midst of a civil war. To people living in government controlled areas (the only places where voting booths were held, other than some in Lebanon), they are living under the relative security of the Assad regime. If they vote against it, if the votes were really being measured, it would mean a transition in power in a government that is literally at war inside it's own borders, which could lead to complete collapse of the system. The people didn't vote for Assad exclusively, the voted to keep the current system in place, where there is atleast a government
>>55184588
War to end with peaceful resolve for the opposition and for assad. Ofcourse i could just say "Let's support Assad, because atleast under his total rule, their wouldn't be any more war", but I am not going to neglect the fact that he has literally bombed his own people, in their own cities (with "chem" weapons or otherwise)
>>55184303
>implying the rebels weren't created and funded by the west, israel and saudi arabia to begin with
Hahaha, don't fuck with American Interests Russki!
>>55184817
>>55184716
you see, it is easy to say things like that, and it could be true, but when I start believing that America will literally instigate a civil war in a country, that will kill hundreds of thousands of people, just to build a pipeline, what is to stop me from believing they didn't invade Afghanistan and Iraq over things like that, and I could even go as far as to say that America actually orchestrated 9/11, so they could invade Afghanistan, then use cheap propaganda and media tricks, to later invade Iraq.
Now when you really believe in all that, how could you guys sit here and blame Islam or Muslims for being so violent, when it is possibly they have been played and deceived to fight each other, and in turn the world is deceived to see them in that way
>>55177164
China is considering helping Russia. Possible with their aircraftcarriers. They to will then strike isis and other rebels with airpower.
>>55177586
https://youtu.be/x9xbtlGtt1w
South front. Good info chanel.
Russia is actually losing this war BADLY
There have now been more russians killed (plane) than they killed terrorists. Let that sink in for a moment lol
Any Rusbro's who can tell me which song is in this video?
https://pl.vichan.net/player.php?v=/dump/src/1tcyl5mx.vichan-0.webm&t=ukraina%20%C5%9Bilna.webm&loop=1
>>55184735
>it really is no surprise that people don't want to change governments in the midst of a civil war.
>LET'S START A CIVIL WAR TO CHANGE GOVERNMENT FOR THE BETTER
>OH WAIT, WE AREN'T SUPPOSED TO CHANGE GOVERNMENTS IN THE MIDST OF A CIVIL WAR!11
>To people living in government controlled areas (the only places where voting booths were held, other than some in Lebanon)
>Meanwhile the west condemns the votes as undemocratic, citing all that bullshit about "no booths everywhere including the other side of the moon" and "civil war" as to why it's undemocratic. Guess they were expecting a vote that would change a government in the midst of a civil war, oh wait, that was silly of them according to you, wasn't it?
>Meanwhile, in Ukraine the illegitimate post-coup government conducts presidential votes not including the rebelling regions and specifically changing constitution to be able to do so, and everyone in the west congratulates the win of a coup president in "democratic votes".
Forty thousand keks, mate. What's not surprising is that people figured they don't want to have anything to do with the FSA gangs, end of story. Disregarding the question of how perfect Assad is, at they voted for security indeed and very much want your beloved FSA to fail, which is the only thing relevant in discussion with FSA bootlickers such as yourself.
>>55184735
>War to end with peaceful resolve for the opposition and for assad.
There is no sensible opposition for Assad. He's a secular leader with christians and sunni and shia alike fighting for him, while all of the opposition today are "sharia law now". The only peace that can be made with mudslime radicals who want to make another Saudi Arabia out of Syria is the peace where they lie two feet under.
>>55185123
This one. It's a song of Mari people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvHoNFWRiVI
>>55185359
not when the war also has players like ISIS and Al Qaeda in it
If it was solely a civil war between Assad and his opposition, then that election, if held correctly, would have been the perfect resolve, and if Assad really did end up being more popular, then the opposition can fuck off
But it isn't just Assad vs Syrian opposition, you have groups like ISIS, Al Qaeda, and even if the people chose Assad, it isn't nessecarily because they want him as their leader, but because they know he is better then ISIS and Al Qaeda
>>55185421
Awesome. Thanks bro.
Got it off a Polish chan. They have some crazy shit.
https://pl.vichan.net/player.php?v=/dump/src/1tc850l0.vichan.webm
>Germany
>>55175642
Russia getting keked by America for a second time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ3kxS4JXBs
>>55185551
That should be keked.
Kek.
>>55185576
WHAT SORCERY IS THIS
>>55185359
Assad literally admitted in an RT interview that he got so many people who fought against him, coming back to him, including thousands of Sunnis, is because of the chaos that ISIS has caused, and that makes a lot of sense. Like I said, at this point, I actually think Assad is the best hope the Syrian people have, and in another post, I said I would rather that both sides try and resolve this on a table, rather than on the battle field. For now, obviously, ISIS and all other non-Syrian players need to be removed, but when the war is over, that doesn't mean Assad has completely won, he would need to realize that changes were required in his leadership
>>55185596
Assad is known to issue pardons for everybody (only Syrians) who surrenders.
Media only mentions the horrible barrel bombs.
>>55185474
>not when the war also has players like ISIS and Al Qaeda in it
That's the problem with all those "revolutions". They think nobody would run to join the slumber. The opposition was braindead and deserves to burn in hell, where all of it is now already anyway, for spawning the criminal and religious gang shitfest and inviting international terrorism. Today FSA doesn't exist and all the "pure opposition" from your imagination deserves to be hanged anyway for their radical mudslime outlooks on secular Syria. The end.
>>55185596
If Assad will have to bow to some religious mudshit and make Syria less secular to make peace it would be sad indeed. Hope no such "realization" would be of necessity.
>>55185421
I need to learn some based Russian
>>55186098
This one is based Mari language. Russia is rich on various wonderful ethnicities.
>>55185802
>If Assad will have to bow to some religious mudshit and make Syria less secular to make peace it would be sad indeed.
Egypt is proof that this doesn't work anyway.
>>55186135
It made me realize that we Dutch don't really have much culture. We should protect the little we have. Instead people are intent on keking it into nothing and everybody is applauding it.
>>55175414
Wow nothing learned from Bosnian.
Airstrikes don't win wars. Not that pitiful ones.
WW2 bomber campaign, carpet bombing areas is what needed. 50 bears and or B52 doping full payloads flattening areas is whats needed.
>>55175414
Its because of the same reason US airstrikes haven't worked. ISIS has learned not to move forces all and once and not to move them in the same direction. Say you want to move troops to the east. split them into north, south, and east. while splitting them into even smaller groups. so when groups A & B get taken out by airstrikes groups C & D still make it there. The reason Russian airstrikes have seemed so successful is that its not a tactic that FSA has ever has to use so its taken them a while to learn it. Mostly from ISIS. Because if you don't learn from the best you die like the rest.
>>55186218
Vanishing culture is a problem everywhere, mate. This Mari girl isn't exactly speaking Mari and wearing the outfit in her day to day life either. Russian culture has also vanished, leaving behind nothing but muh matreshka and balalaika souvenirs. Such is the world we live in, which is sad of course.
>>55185551
>subhuman being proud of supporting raghead terrorists
Top kek.
>>55186135
Does Mari borrow enough from Russia where learning Russia can help vastly in learning Mari later on?
>>55186444
>Fingolia
>Calling others subhuman
Top Kek.
>>55186295
guess this is too sound for russian shills.
This is the only solution.
>>55186295
Seems like a logistical nightmare to do that, also since ISIS does not have air support can't the FSA and SAA move in bigger groups to over take the smaller ISIS groups. Lastly this doesn't work if you're defending a position.
>>55186570
What about all the oil anon, we need that oil. Russia, Europe and even the USA need that oil.
>>55186502
http://www.therichest.com/rich-list/rich-countries/the-10-best-countries-in-the-world-officially/9/
Oh i'm sorry, I don't see your shithole on this list.
But here, take a look at this, negro.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/06/13/18934111-census-white-majority-in-us-gone-by-2043
>>55186295
No, the reason US airstrikes haven't worked is a) because US never really tried to destroy ISIS. It just tries to push it out of Iraq into Syria.
b) because there's no ground force to capitalize on the air strikes. The only place where US air strikes made a difference, is where there were kurds to kick ISIS shit in.
>>55186461
I'm afraid not. They're totally different language families. They have loanwords from Russian of course, but not in the quantity that would help you in any way. Or me, to understand that song even.
>>55186573
At the same time the only way to counter it is to have boots on the ground. Which neither side wants. FSA and SAA have no air support because of US and Russia making it an unofficial no fly zone. To the other point when having such broken forces its easy to do hit and runs and fake outs. say you want to take a city. why not set a bunch of IEDs and fake a light push on another front? stretching FSA to be hit by Russian Strikes?
>>55186610
offshore drilling ...
>>55186650
With Putin not wanting another Afghanistan
and a Syrian Army running on raw recruits and "advisers" without boots on the ground its a stale mate.
Thats why the US has allowed "Special Forces" because it'll break the stale mate while a "Afghanistan traumatized" Russia will only hurt putin. Vietnam was a long time ago for the US but every general in the russian military remembers Afghanistan.
>>55186610
Africa has lots of oil
>>55186610
>not mentioning asia
>>55175414
>the hidden russian deaths classified as suicide
That was actually only one person and there's no definitive evidence of anything..
>between this
Assad is making huge gains on other fronts, they just lost territory they captured on one front
>>55186702
Everybody knows what is required. But there's no public support. There will be after a happening, staged or real. And it will come.
>>55186855
>With Putin not wanting another Afghanistan
Syria has a very different landscape than Afghanistan. Afghanistan went wrong because those mountain monkeys could hide everywhere.
>>55186461
Probably knowing finnish or estonian can help more with mari that knowing russian. Ofcourse you'd need to know the cirilica.
>>55183930
Are you retarded or just american?
>>55186912
>no definitive evidence of anything
take a look at this Russian shill and laugh
>>55186295
yeah, ISIS still hasnt figured how to stop poorly armed ypg fighters who are still gaining more ground then any other group in the entire war but when it comes to capturing cities and towns in the face of air support, they are suddenly pros.
why cant we keep this simple and just say that the SAA may as well be a bunch of monkeys with AK's?
>>55186976
>it all boils down to landscape
>guess you could call that a scapegoat.
>>55187002
Post it then you fucking faggot
>>55179670
If it didn't care about the outcome they would not be there at all.
>>55187002
Provide evidence then piggy. So far there's only one confirmed death of a Russian soldier and a non-combat one at that.
>>55187140
News flash YPG fighters
ARE ON THE GROUND.
OH GOSH OH JEEZ LIKE THE US AND RUSSIA ARE ON THE GROUND RIGHT NOW.
I guess all those airstrikes are enough when the YPG fighters ON THE GROUND prove them better.
>>55187140
>why cant we keep this simple and just say that the SAA may as well be a bunch of monkeys with AK's?
Unfortunately, this is accurate enough.
>>55187228
elaborate.
>>55175414
>Assad's forces pushes IS away from territory after territory
>The "rebels" sneaks in behind them and grabs the territory while Assad's forces keeps on going forward
Yeah okey and how exactly does this make Russia 'bad'? It just proves again and again and again that Russia aren't touching the "rebels" with airstrikes like the western MSM claimed.
You people... I swear.
>>55175414
Based rebels bringing them sweet stormweenie tears
>>55187319
On what that statement is correct. To elaborate is to try and find a straw.
>>55187321
How does it prove that?
>>55179992
>all we need is 50 of your best men....
kek. obama literally taking notes from ramsey bolton
>>55187154
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/sep/27/10-myths-about-afghanistan
>>55187409
Make a wild guess.
>>55187406
on what that statement is trying to suggest.
if its saying that the ypg are more competent than any other group in the war, then im sure everyone can agree.
>>55187487
No m8, how about you justify your use of the word "prove".
JUST
>>55187632
BOMB
>>55187632
>>55187690
SHIT
>>55187864
SKINS
>>55187606
Isn't it obvious? Every advance on the enemies part has been halted since Russia entered Syria "fully" (when all the planes that was planned to arrived had arrived and started the bombing campaign).
It's basically now confirmed that US and Russia agreed with each other a few weeks back, that Russia should establish a direct line with the "rebels" to avoid the airstrikes hitting them.
So the "rebels" are now using this advantage to go behind Assad's newly captured territory and re-re-recapture it.
There hasn't been a single report since the direct line has been put up, that Russia has bombed the "rebels" in Syria. Which on the other hand the western MSM refuse to acknowledge since they can't throw shit on Russia (until a few civilians die inside the warzone by airstrikes of course).
>>55188277
The bigger threat to Assad at the moment is ISIS anyways, the rebels have been losing to both ISIS and SAA since ISIS jumped into the fray. As long as SAA doesn't have to deal with both of these groups they can take on the Rebels with the armaments from Russia.
It will all change once the russians start flying them blackjack planes and dropping F.O.A.B on any city that is under ISIS or rebel control before SAA marches in, after the firestorms are gone ofcourse.
They wont drop them on oilfields, but the sure as fuck will on towns and fortified villages.
If that thing is falling on you, you can kiss your tunnels goodbye, fire from them gets in every crevice and every hole in your body, after it takes all your air from your lungs.
And then, after you are burned, SAA stomps your charred body and puts a flag on it.
There wont be anyone left to tell the story.
>>55175959
Underrated
>>55189991
That's a typical cockhole joke, which is fun, as they've been projecting their own ungodly and hushed casualties. Nothing to rate even, tbqh family.
