Where do I find a qt who wants to get married and have children, like people used to before feminism and tinder?
>>54967089
I ask myself the same question... But I guess we are still here in front of a computer screen.
...In 50 years there is no more Europeans.
Really??? Women have been looking for suckers like you since they developed ovaries...you must be dumb or desperate.
>>54967200
I have never understood the whole Waifu thing. I always found it a bit weird or silly. I take it back. She is the perfect waifu.
>>54967089
>Where do I find a qt
Your standards are too high. You're a mediocre man who wants a girl who is exceptionally attractive. You can't find a qt period, let alone a qt who fits all of your other ideals.
Already got a QT fiancée who wants to get married and have my kids.
>>54967089
Where do you find a woman who DOESNT want marriage and children?.
>>54967089
Church related things.
>>54967089
Poland
>>54967089
go for mail order chinese brides or try the country rather then cities
>>54967089
Do you have money?
Can you afford a house and a car?
Women like guys with money
>>54967089
and what makes you think that you should reproduce? why do you deserve a family, because you shitpost on mongolian cartoonboards on the internet 24/7?
get the fuck off, get some education, get a real job with a real career path, then start thinking about starting a family. it takes a lot more effort than having a pet cockroach among your piss jars.
>>54967480
Be broke
Women dont like having kids with guys who have no money
>>54967589
If he had a career or a great paying job he would not be asking that question
He would be getting laid
>>54967089
I bet her butthole smells so good.
>>54967089
LOOK @ 3rd World Countries.
>>54967089
Make one dummy
>>54967089
>UK
>qts
>>54967089
Go to a rural town in America. 19 year olds in my old hometown are having babies and getting married as we speak. I'm glad to be in college for free and not having to support someone before I'm ready
>>54967675
He is poor.
He would be posting from philipines bragging about fucking whores if he had money
Make 40 g's annually...nearly got trapped between my ex's pasty thighs and a lifetime of child support payments. Bitch literally made me try to cum inside her just about every night..you don't wanna know what that torture is like.
>got married to a QT
>everything was fine
>after 2.5 years of being together she started having lack of libido and interest in any physical sort of relationship
>6 months later she called the police and said I raped her
>on bail while they investigate
>literally no evidence but got locked up and had all my computers and phones taken
Never get married, even qts turn crazy
>>54967089
Pic related is a Swedish radical feminist kek
>>54967089
pɔlska.
>>54967427
>>54967480
The last qt I knew was an attention whoring bitch. One day she poured coffee over me and I ended up punching her in the face, nobody's seen her since.
>>54968053
>same guy posting this shit
Dude stop posting the same story. You only have yourself to blame for mail ordering some random slav bitch from the Internet. It's your own damn fault for being so stupid.
>>54968053
this true?
The internet is a trap for European men.
Throw your modem and router away and never look back. Use your computer as a tool.
go to church, scout place etc. places like these.. They might not be hot though.
i go to a school with many immigrants and they are getting engaged now (they are 17-18 years xD) and they are really hyped about it lol .
>>54968305
>xD
>>54967089
do it before it's to late
>>54968167
I know you probably get sick of it, but I use it as a warning for others here.
Most here are probably not married or virgins, so they need to understand the reality that we live in.
>>54967089
>Where do I find a qt who wants to get married and have children, like people used to before feminism and tinder?
In the one place no self respecting Brit seems willing to go anymore:
Church.
Not everyone who has faith is a retarded Bible thumper. And you're more likely to find a relatively sane woman who has morals, and actually enjoys and feels fulfilled being a woman (a wife, a mother) in Church.
But you won't go there, will you? If you have to choose between the intellectual superiority being atheist grants you, or finding a woman who wants to be a woman, you'll choose atheism and bitch about religious fools and tumblr cunts on your MGTOW blog.
>>54968305
>xD lol
Stop. Homely looking church girls are a good pick though.
>>54967089
Ethiopia.
t. someone that married an Ethiopian beauty
>>54967089
Well you start by going outside
>unable to redpill women
Smh desu senpai
>>54967089
What the fuck is a "qt"?
If you are college aged, look up "ring before spring" on social media, and transfer to one of those schools.
>>54968517
I hate crazy religous bitches obessed with "purity" and all that shit as much as I hate tinder sluts desu senpai
>>54968805
"cutie." - A girl who is cute.
>>54968805
Lurk moar. Why are you posting ?
Fuck you.
>>54968899
>>54968517
>Not everyone who has faith is a retarded Bible thumper.
way to prove my point, though.
>>54968899
what the fuck I didn't write "desu senpai" piss off g00k
>>54968942
Wauw, that's a pretty lame way to say it.
>>54968999
Fuck off spergelord this isn't /b/
>>54968156
>confirmed for underage fag
>>54968669
>Ethiopia
Enjoy your mud children
Traditional Asian gf. Easy.
>>54969117
what?
>>54969022
Haha, you just got gooked. Is there no new low to which you Brits will not sink?
Fuckin' gooklover.
Your local pentecostal church, or various christian dating websites.
Neckbearded atheist faggots need not apply, and should remember no one gets to wear a fedora in hell.
>>54967089
do you have your own house? how many $$$ you do?
>>54969271
you believe that shit?
>>54969186
He has no money to buy one.
We hate his personality how is some woman going to like it
>>54968999
he dun speak-a good-a eng-a-lish, mademoiselle, allons-y et mangez des croissants
>>54969342
If he had a house and money he would be engaged he is a poor fag living with his mom
>>54969356
You think you'd have better luck at degenerate locations like bars or tinder?
>>54969271
>Christian dating websites
Is this actually true? Are these somehow different from every other dating website, which is just a dumpster of leftover hambeasts and nutjobs with pink and purple hair?
Sure is newfag in here.
Can confirm bitches want results. That's what the eternal kike tells them to demand. You get grace period but after the qt wears off you better have bux or
>raep
>half yo shit
>niggers
>>54969446
When I had a car i use to bang tons of sluts off of tinder now that i have no car i get no sluts :(
>teeeeeeeeen
>>54969048
I agree. It's some shitty internet slang. The absolutely most faggot way of saying it is "cutie 3.14."
That shit makes me cringe.
>>54969564
tfw no qt 3.14 gf
>>54969462
They're different. They're not a wonderland. And truthfully, I don't think anyone on 4chan, let alone anyone crying about "where da gud wimminz go" belongs on such a website. Girls on those website want actual Christians who are devoted to Jesus, not skeptic vultures who are looking for at waifu.
what's the matter op, can't get laid boy?
>>54969564
God damnit this is why no one want's to marry theese assburgers.
>>54969356
pentecostalism? No, but so long as you check the Christian box most pentecostal girls don't care about which protestant denomination you're from. Obviously not mormons or catholics though.
I have met a lot of redpilled white christian women through christian dating websites, though you do get some whose denominations are batshit insane/terrifying. It's a trade off I guess.
kek desu baka senpai
>>54969446
no the
>le going to hell for being a smelly fedora maymay
>>54967089
Tinder
>>54969672
>Skeptic vultures
>>54967089
Someone sauce this qt?
>>54969502
england isn't an island you fuckwit
>>54967089
Mailorderbrides.org
Look up Poland, Russia, Estonia, Ukraine, & Moldavia
You guys need to develop a more well rounded view on women.
Sure, in general they can be rather troublesome, but it's not like all women have the same personality or values. All 16 MBTI personality types which manifest themselves in men can manifest themselves in women. The key is finding a woman who's personality complements your own.
However, this is easier said than done. The most common personalities on this board (INTP and INTJ) are only truly compatible with a few other personality types, and those few are relatively rare. They are rare to find not only in women but in men as well. INTPs, for example, find their optimal match with INFPs or ENTJs, which combined comprise about 5% of women.
Blame female ESFJs (the personality of vapid whores), not all women.
>>54967271
Worked for my dad, my grandfather and several generations before him. There has not been a divorce or separation in any of my extended family members in 150 years (and probably farther than that). If you want to talk about degenerates look no further than the unwed man. So are they suckers or just smart?
>>54969798
No it's just a tiny muslim country surrounded by water.
OP, men didn't make enough money, so women married the government. The government doesn't chase them for sex all the time, so why would such women doll themselves up for you? They don't want YOU. They don't need YOU. The already married the government.
>>54969809
>true love
>>54967455
where did you meet?
>>54967089
anywhere, including shit like Tinder and online sites
Theres no set method for this kind of stuff.
>>54969502
O - M - G - just when I thought you couldn't be any fucking dumber...
>>54967660
>Shithole
>Shit
>Smelling good
wut
>>54969834
myers briggs is just horoscopes for people that think they're too smart for horoscopes.
![EL1RN4A[3].gif](https://i.imgur.com/Tfv5Gr4.gif "EL1RN4A[3].gif")
>tfw no eastern yuropoorean qt gf
>>54968449
Holy shit. I don't know if your title is sarcastic or not, but I'm 75% sure this'll be me in a few years, unless I can un fuck the situation (unlikely).
Worst part? She dumped me because I couldn't find a job and place to live despite having a university degree (which should qualify me for a basic job as IT support or something, at least, but nope). Guess what they're reporting every day on the TV? Poor poor immigrants, they're only given two rooms of their own, poor immigrants/gypsies/scum that occupy spaces illegally, we must fast-track them to apartments, we must give them jobs, meanwhile let them all live on our money. I know I'm not alone, either, I've heard similar stories from others. What a time to be alive.
>>54969834
Here's an interesting link
http://www.massmatch.com/MBTI-2.php
>>54969975
ignore the degenerate
hey pupils are super dilated she must be on meth
>>54969924
she looks scared.
>>54967731
That has to be one of the worst arguments ever made in an image
These are right about Church being a good place to go.
My problem is actually that I can't pick just one, plus I don't know how to start a relationship...
>>54967089
honestly catholic women are pure, baby crazy, want to get hitched, and know their place the only problem is they worship a teenage jewish girl and an old white man.
>>54967089
Church
>>54970029
>She dumped me because I couldn't find a job and place to live
Can't say I blame her.
>degree
Should have learned a trade, sven.
>meet qt ukrainian chick on the internet
>she is very shy and we write each other every day
>is a few years younger than I am and is also a friendless, kissless virgin without any friends
>she isn't dressing like a slut
>isn't into drugs or drinking
>does not swear like a man and is always qt as fuck
>tfw she is into me and we just talked over skype for 4 hours even tho we had nothing really to say to each other but had fun anyway
the only bad thing is she is living near a warzone and shit could happen any moment.
>>54970029
Come to murica brah.
Just leave that c u c k shit in Sweden. I imagine you would do extremely well with the women here. Despite what /pol/ would have you believe, white genes are the most valuable asset here.
>>54969798
Good god, you're fucking retarded bro.
>>54969809
He has no money for a mail order bride
If had thousands to spend he would just have a girlfriend allready
>>54969834
>tfw consistently INFJ
>the least common type
>>54969924
he dun goofed tho
>>54970005
>Being this stupid
Horoscopes are pure chance. You must take an extensive test to know your Myers-Briggs type. Equating the MBTI to astrology is absurd.
I bet you're an INTJ
>>54970307
If hes broke he really can't afford to jump through all the hoops we have for European visas.
how do i turn gay?
>>54970414
On second thought perhaps anon can fly to some buttfuck town in Minnesota or the dakotas and work as a farmhand in exchange for boarding..just a thought
>>54967731
< Yes mate QT'S
>>54970191
>catholic women are pure
oh ha haha ha ha ha haha haha oooooooh!
good one!
>>54970331
he's right
England is on an Island, but it is not an island
>>54970307
> Americans being unaware of their Immigration Laws
>>54970465
Not possible.
>>54967089
Where are the best redhead qt's like that?
They sure aren't in nz.
>>54970410
An extensive test of vague questions which if you take more than once you get different results.
>>54970476
That's one of the most unattractive images of her you could have chosen.
>>54970191
>catholic women are pure
http://forums.catholic.com/showthread.php?t=870532
>>54969910
>>54970331
Britian is an island, England is a country in Britain, my god you fuckers are clueless.
>>54970274
What are you going to do about it?
>>54969834
Sorry to break it to you this way, but the whole MBTI-bullshit is bogus!
It's proven that those 'personality-types' are more similiar to horoscopes than actual scientific methods. People just use them as another way to feel like a special snowflake. Especially on the internet...
>>54970611
>not having immigration laws
>>54970599
It aint an Island its a muva fuggin turtle nigguh!
>>54968669
No, that's where you get AIDS an ebola
>>54968669
>marrying a niggress
You're going to regret it when she starts popping out little monkey men.
>>54969111
Lurk moar, you collossal fucking faggot. It's one of the most basic terms used on this site. If you don't know it you must, quite frankly, be fresh off the rubber dingy from plebbit.
>>54970219
>>degree
>Should have learned a trade, sven.
Aye. Alas, I bought what the older, 'wiser' people told me (to their credit, it used to be true just a decade ago or so). I've wised up since, but what good does it do at this point?
>>54970307
>Come to murica brah.
It's very difficult to move over there as a white european, but if she moves in with someone else, I'll consider it (for the asian-american cuties, n-no bully). I have some friends that might be able to get me a job. Do you think king Obongo will try an amnesty, or is that entirely off the table now? (Before he leaves, for the legacy, I mean)
>>54970414
Not broke, I have some money. But apartments are expensive and I don't want to bleed it all while trying to find a job. I'm not well off by any means, but better than others my age.
Red heads are babes mane
>>54970632
THE BRITISH ISLE....ENGLAND....DEERRP.
ITS THE SAME THING YOU DUMB FUCK...THATS LIKE SAYING NORTHERN TERRITORY AUSTRAILIA IS AN INDEPENDANT NATION.
>>54969939
I met my qt in highschool. We made a promise early on to always be honest and talk directly to eachother about grievances.
Just last week she made my day, 6 years after we first got together:
> anon. I cant wait to decorate our place. And then when we have kids i can design their rooms.
:^)
>>54970274
>the only bad thing is she is living near a warzone and shit could happen any moment.
Invite her as a refugee to Germany and marry her, Hans.
>>54968285
>he says using the internet
>>54970521
>Catholicism
>NOT the bastion of hell
top kek, that guy, top. kek.
The problem is all the low and mid tier girls are fems because beauty is the most important thing for a girl and they don't have much. Some high tier girls with ambition also turn to it because they want to be valued more for their work even when it isn't up to par.
If you want a dream girl you need to be a 10/10 and find the beautiful girls that aren't ambitious. They don't become degenerates because they don't need to. Know that top tier girls aren't sluts either, that's the domain of 8s and lower. they're picky as fuck.
>>54970653
Thats not what I said.
But if your immigration laws lead to millions of South-Americans entering legally - and preventing Europeans from doing so legally you might have some reforms to do.
>>54970274
obviously import her as an asylum seeker and let her seek asylum in your bed klaus, come on. do what himmler wanted and germanize those ukranian whores.
>>54970274
Bring her to germany. Start asking around about jobs, and make sure to marry her and file her citizenship right away.
>>54970627
>In a moment of weakness, she had an affair
>we went to her doctor and he confirmed that my wife was now 9 weeks pregnant. A realization hit the both of us that given the timing, there was no chance that I could be the father
>The man my wife had the affair with was African American
Oh boy.
>>54970826
We have reforms incoming shortly. Where are yours?
>>54970753
>American
>Geographic Knowledge
Choose one
>>54970820
This is a bad generalization, mostly skewed by you rating make-up clad, slutty-dressing 10's as less than 8's down to your own personal biases.
Most of the more attractive girls I know also have more sex with many partners. They get more male attention, this makes it harder to say no all the time.
>>54970623
>acting with your eyebrows
>>54970861
Yes Trump ftw
>>54970849
>In a moment of weakness, she had an affair
Doesn't get more kucked tbqh.
>>54970729
>Do you think king Obongo will try an amnesty
He is. Boehner gave up the tactic/threat the republicans held to keep obama in check, he is going to go hog wild in his last months trying to fuck up the country as much as he possibly can. The only reason he has to not do this is if the DNC believed it would hurt Hillary's election chances, but since he fucking hates her more than he hates America, I doubt that stops him.
>>54970877
your from the UK? thats in the middle east right?
Wow, by the state of this thread one can safely judge: America's finished. How you guys want to rule the world if you can't even find a good girl? Sore losers desu
>>54970753
No it isn't. Brittain contains england,wales and scotland. When combined they become great Britain.
>>54968305
>EX DEE
Fuck you.
>>54970768
> anon. I cant wait to decorate our place. And then when we have kids i can design their rooms.
stop it.
>>54970915
Why doesn't she have violet eyes? Daenerys has violet eyes.
>>54970908
>mostly skewed by you rating make-up clad, slutty-dressing 10's as less than 8's down to your own personal biases.
If you think club whores are 10/10s you've been brainwashed by jews or have never encountered a 10/10.
>>54967089
> be me, 35 years old leaving an abominable marriage to a ghastly Calicunt
> never listened to shit, did the exact opposite of what she was told, never held a job but claimed that she made all the money
> come home to based East Texas, fucking despise all women
> want to stuff them all into wood chippers
> at work, meet 20 year old qt 3.14 country girl
> strong Christian upbringing, loves to hunt and fish, has a CHL and two pistols she bought with her own money
> fucks like Helen of Troy with her ass on fire
> we have two kids together now
> my ex still hasn't held down a job, still blames me for everything that's wrong in her life six years later
> mfw
>>54971249
You escaped feminism
>>54970753
The United Kingdom is made up of four separate countries: England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
England, Scotland and Wales are located on the ISLAND of Great Britain. One (Northern Ireland) is located on the separate Island of Ireland.
Using England to refer to Britain is like using California to refer to the West Coast.
>>54971160
My theory is that she can't be assed to wear colored contacts, but that's maybe because I really don't like Emilia "Literally Who" Clarke. I assume she isn't actually in charge of costume and shit. It is a mystery.
>>54971249
>15 year difference
>>54970971
The whole forum is encouraging him to live with it (no divorce/abortion etc) and he's agreeing, so yes it does get more kucked. All because 'muh jesus'. Is there a more kucked religion than catholicism?
>>54971249
I post that gif anytime I see black people crying about racism on twitter
>>54970274
Come on Eckhard, don't blow it.
>>54970877
>American
>Geographic knowledge being relevant to anything
pick one
>>54970915
I prefer this piece instead she looks like a go er also Britbong
>>54967089
no choice but to embrace being a cūckold
>>54970274
>talking to girls further than an hour away
Why bother?
>>54971660
what sound does that accent make?
>>54971333
>>54971333
But they're all still on an IIIIIISSSSSLLLLLAAAAAND....
>>54970980
Hamdullah! you geography is gud for spawn of shaytaan.
>>54971339
Eh the show went to shit when they started deviating from the book anyway.
>>54971646
>permanent paralyze-smirk
>flat
>horrible skin
Good way to pick the least attractive on the show.
>>54967200
The answer is easy. Go to a feminist rally.
Watch carefully at a nearby sidewalk where the event is clearly visible. Every once in a while a woman will walk by and just shake her head like we all do when we see something we think is stupid.
This girl is guaranteed to not be a feminist. No interview needed. Not to say she won't have other problems like people do, but she will likely at least be a person.
You are welcome, anons.
>>54967530
Israel always getting the best bang for their buck
Take notes
>>54971646
She is the best girl.
>>54971646
>mfw not realizing smirkfu had some severed nerves or some shit that actually cause the smirk
>say something like "why does she always fucking smirk" in public
>ANON DONT BULLY
Kek. She is kawaii though.
>>54971360
Goddamn, what happened to all the fucking bloodthirsty crusaders who used to make up that religion?
>>54971779
Subjective
she looks like a filthy trollop who knows what to do.
>>54967089
Go to the gym between 6-8 PM on Valentine's day
>>54971850
hahaha
Yeah smirk is wyrd for sure
>>54971982
w-what will happen
>>54971722
he was escaping the kek
>>54971850
The only time where something is crooked makes them hotter.
>>54971796
>go to feminist rally to pick up chicks
>sticking it to the woman
i like ur ideas chap
>>54971360
Fuck that dump the skanky whore.
Thats a reason for divorce even if you are a devout catholic!!
>>54971796
has this method worked for you?
>>54970627
>man bites dog
>>54972040
I know I just want to pronounce it with the accent now.
>>54967089
Church or volunteer groups.
Next question?
>>54971883
Here's an article someone in that thread linked to encourage the guy to stay supportive.
http://www1.cbn.com/700club/bob-audrey-meisner-wifes-betrayal
>Bob: “We knew that it was a bi-racial situation, and that our children needed to know.”
It keeps happening.
>>54972016
any gril there is almost guaranteed to be single and they might even be throwing themselves at you
>>54972213
I think that's a long u
Cook. Not to cook food, but like a crazy old man. A cook. Like boobs.
>>54970627
She definitely going to hell now. Whats the point of religion if you don't even fucking follow it?
>>54970861
> We have reforms incoming shortly
Highly doubt they will make anything better senpai
I don't really care about "our" immigration laws. I plan to be out before that becomes a major concern.
>>54971722
Pretty sure it makes an "oo" sound
But
>>54972040
this țbh
>>54967480
Like, everywhere.
>>54967089
In high school
>>54970029
Sack the fuck up, Jonas
>>54972502
yeah well it's kind of fucking hard when you have assburgers and go to a school for literal autists
>>54972465
how is clock boy treating you?
>>54967089
Met mine in high school. Mid 30's, and couldn't be happier.
She was cubbie so I was her first, and was young enough to lose it. It's all about investing early.
>>54972368
>pray for forgiveness and repent
>don't go to hell
-bible
The point of religion in this case is to brainwash the guy into being a literal kuck.
>>54972925
How can you be forgiven if there is a human embodiment of your sins walking around? What a shit religion if you can have your cake and eat it too.
>>54968305
But they're but you see the problem is they're not white and just using you to stay in an actual country
Northern Ireland. Talking to a qt right now that wants to be married and have at least 3 kids before she's 30.
>>54972196
Never needed it (married for ten years), but I noticed recently at one which was taking place by the University I work near that several younger women were looking on with looks ranging from disgust to mirth at how silly the feminists actually look. Any decent woman with good self esteem thinks feminists are just losers.
I met my wife at work when she was eighteen, so she didn't have time to be damaged by chad or the universities.
>>54970768
> you can have the basement or the garage, you can use your good boy points to put stuff in there.
>>54973004
Repentance needs to be utterly sincere. Not just "Oops, sorry, can I come into Heaven now?" Catholics also believe that you won't get to Heaven unless you put in the work, following and spreading the Word of God. Protestants believe that you just need to believe in Christ's divinity to get into Heaven. Protestantism is the one where you can have your cake and eat it too.
>>54973295
So getting into heaven is based on "muh feels"? Really? What the fuck man?
>>54973295
This is something the Catholics and Mormon's share in. You are saved by Grace AND Works. Christ gave the opportunity, but you still have to claim it for yourself.
>>54973389
Sorry, I'm not sure how you're using that buzzphrase here. What are you talking about "muh feels" for? Can you elaborate into non-meme language?
>>54973295
http://forums.catholic.com/showpost.php?p=11874993&postcount=127
>To those who claim the child is innocent and therefore no harm can befall it have you forgotten Deut 23:2?
>"2 A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the Lord."
>I believe that the Bible is wrong on this point.
I dunno, sounds to me like catholics are making their own cakes at this point.
>>54973499
>The Book of Deuteronomy (from Greek Δευτερονόμιον, Deuteronomion, "second law"; Hebrew: דְּבָרִים, Devarim, "[spoken] words") is the fifth book of the Hebrew Bible, and of the Jewish Torah.
How the fuck do people still, to this day, not grasp the concept of the Old and New Testament?
>>54971249
Owning guns seems to be a very good giveaway that a woman is based.
> tfw bong and I can't find a woman who illegally owns any assault spoons.
>>54973642
Country girls have guns in the UK, it's probably a really good indicator of women as to own your own gun you must own your own property and have enough money to partake in a fairly expensive hobby. And you also need to not be an anti gun moron.
>>54973578
Does it matter? According to catholics you can believe in whatever you want so long as it supports your feelings.
>>54973499
Meanwhile christ was a jew bastard kekspawn
>>54967089
Try church
>>54973475
>Repentance needs to be utterly sincere. Not just "Oops, sorry, can I come into Heaven now?"
This part is entirely based on how you FEEL. I wouldn't mind a grueling test like a form of prison being enacted if you really do some evil shit like murdering innocents or cheating on husband and getting pregnant. I would be fine with never being able to get into heaven at all if you do something horrible enough. Not everyone deserves to be a winner.
>>54973770
>According to catholics you can believe in whatever you want so long as it supports your feelings
You seem to be as confused as the yank. Do you care to articulate this "muh feels" thing?
>>54967089
China or Japan.. or Russia.
>>54971317
I did.
The only problem is that my wife has the female house-buying urge and will not shut the fuck up about it, even though real estate is basically a huge industry that has spent billions for decades making sure everybody is convinced that the only true route to happiness is buying a fucking house. Even though a house us basically just a hole in the ground to toss money into.
>>54972622
cry moar
>>54973828
You mean purgatory? Maybe you mean hell? Maybe you missed the part where Catholics believe that they must work for their place in heaven? You cannot just say sorry on your deathbed after a lifetime of sinning and walk right on in to Heaven. Anyway, it wouldn't be very wise of Jesus to preach forgiveness as the absolute core of His religion and then not practice it.
>>54967731
marriage=/=rape you dumbfuck a better argument would be
>if you dont like guns dont get a gun
or something similar
>>54973839
>people who disagree with me are just "confused"
John 8:39-47
>39 “Abraham is our father,” they answered.
>“If you were Abraham’s children,” said Jesus, “then you would do what Abraham did. 40 As it is, you are looking for a way to kill me, a man who has told you the truth that I heard from God. Abraham did not do such things. 41 You are doing the works of your own father.”
>“We are not illegitimate children,” they protested. “The only Father we have is God himself.”
>42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love me, for I have come here from God. I have not come on my own; God sent me. 43 Why is my language not clear to you? Because you are unable to hear what I say. 44 You belong to your father, the devil, and you want to carry out your father’s desires. He was a murderer from the beginning, not holding to the truth, for there is no truth in him. When he lies, he speaks his native language, for he is a liar and the father of lies. 45 Yet because I tell the truth, you do not believe me! 46 Can any of you prove me guilty of sin? If I am telling the truth, why don’t you believe me? 47 Whoever belongs to God hears what God says. The reason you do not hear is that you do not belong to God.”
>>54974040
He just started blathering about "Muh feels" instead of actually saying anything of substance. It turned out he didn't know about purgatory or Hell or pretty much anything regarding Catholicism. He was definitely confused.
>>54973965
Why does a man that murders a whole family in cold blood deserve forgiveness? Just because the book says so? I only know of modern Christianity not catholocism. It seems like its slowly getting to the point where all you have to do is say sorry then all is forgiven. There is a reason that attendance is dropping in catholic churches; its because people don't want to put in the time or work but they still want to be seen as a "good person"
>>54973865
I actually dealt with this (and fuck all you "equity" assholes. You all know a house can be just as much a liability and break you as it can be a cash cow for later). I told my wife what our living standards needed to be when we moved. We needed x feet of space and a fenced yard (we have two small children), and I didn't want to be on a busy street. Then I gave her our budget ($1,100 for rent or house payment). I told her whatever we spent less than this per month she could have on top of her regular shopping budget.
And guess what? She found a modest but decent home for $920 a month that fit the bill nicely. You might offer something like setting an amount and putting the difference into a vacation fund, and that will be how often and where she can go on vacation.
I love renting. When something goes horribly wrong, you call your landlord and let them know. Push for the longest lease possible, and offer to renew for equally long if they don't raise rent too much when it is time to renew. Ask them up front if they intend to rent long term (decade or more) because it will be less likely they will ever ask you to move.
>>54973863
>japan
>having children
u wot
>>54974171
Again, Catholics believe you must work for your place. If he kills a whole family and then spends the rest of his life saving thousands upon thousands of lives and is utterly repentant, why shouldn't he be forgiven?
> It seems like its slowly getting to the point where all you have to do is say sorry then all is forgiven
Again, God, the all-seeing, all-knowing deity can tell when you're bullshitting. He doesn't fall for simple lip service. I'm not even sure what your last line is arguing. Are you saying that Catholics are good people and every other Christian denomination is in it for the "street cred"?
>>54974160
To be fair, this is a confusing time for Catholics. Purgatory isn't held strongly in their belief any more, just like Limbo was tossed out the window a while back. They change the belief to the comforts of their members now like they always have (or as much as necessary to keep control). Not even judging. Being that substantial of a political organization for 1800 years must be exhausting.
>>54974457
>To be fair, this is a confusing time for Catholics
Because of that retarded fucking "pope". Catholicism needs another Polish pope.
>>54974321
How does an adulterer who has another man's baby repent?
>>54974546
The same way every other sinner repents? The whole "killing then saving lives" thing was just for the sake of argument. Just to make it easier to understand by making the two things directly related.
>>54974656
So they just have to truly feel bad about it?
>>54970394
hey friend. i pull that type too
but i think the test is kind of bullshit
>>54974321
This is the problem with arguing semantics in the context of religion. All the details boil down to hand-waving on the part of the religion.
>>54967089
I'm not touching any woman that frequents dating sites.
Almost impossible to find a woman that's not a whore. Impossible.
>>54974836
Usually by feeling truly guilty or remorseful about it and then going to Confession. The priest will absolve you of your sins and give you penance, usually in the form of prayers and charity and the like. Then you must spend the rest of your life living as Jesus did and spreading His word if you truly want to get into Heaven.
>>54974966
Where was the hand-waving?
>>54975033
>Repentance must be utterly sincere
>How is it known whether it's sincere?
>Oh, believe me, he knows.
>>54973295
You are saved by gods grace alone. Literally nothing you do guarantees you go to heaven or hell, it's just assumed that living like he says will earn you his favor.
When the pope says "atheists can go to heaven" he's right. It's just assumed God wouldn't let them in as he stresses faith.
>>54975131
How is that hand-waving? God is omniscient. By definition, He knows.
>>54975143
I never said that you can guarantee a place in Heaven? I said that Catholics believe you must work for a place. That they are saved by both grace and works. Pay attention, lad.
>>54975143
What earns more negative points, being an atheist or having spent your life dedicated to a false religion (assuming there is a god but not the christian/etc one)?
>>54975241
You aren't saved by works. It's just assumed that though good works you will, by Gods grace, be saved. You could be utterly unrepentant and live a life of sin and still make it into heaven if God deems you should. It just seems pretty unlikely.
>>54975241
If he's so omniscient, does he know how to learn things he doesn't know? How can that be, if there are no things he doesn't know?
>>54975392
Again, we're talking about Catholicism, not Protestantism. Seriously, pay attention.
>>54967089
MGTOW is the way to go
>>54975448
Are we really going to try pulling theodicy into this?
>>54975604
I'm just demonstrating that hand-waving is always needed on the part of the religion at some point in any discussion of this nature.
>>54975656
No, you're not. You're trying to pull an Epicurus and pretend you're knowledgeable when you've shown throughout the thread that you're very ignorant about the subject at hand. If you're really curious, feel free to look up the centuries of thought that theists have put into that shit already.
>>54975778
Here again is another reason why people don't bother debating with theism. It's completely impossible within a religion's framework to admit its system of belief is at all mistaken. Therefore believers have to justify every single tiny contradictory detail as 100% consistent within the overall network, because they have their whole belief to lose if they are unable to.
>>54975564
MGTOW you only ever be a thing if we invent artificial wombs and sex robots. But then society will collapse because all men will have turned into neckbeard fat cunts that play WoW all day.
>>54976023
Did you just say that it's impossible to argue with theists because they argue their point too thoroughly? Because that's how that read.
>>54976116
No, because they are incapable of ever admitting there may be the slightest hint of an inconsistency within a system of beliefs that has attempted to maintain itself through culture changes it never could have foreseen at its inception.
>>54976185
You're still saying they argue too thoroughly. Feel free to prove a theist wrong if you're so sure that their beliefs are false. Shouldn't be too tough, based on your assertions, I'm sure.
>>54976257
You're doing it right now.
>>54976277
Try presenting actual arguments, it usually helps during an argument.
>>54967480
That's called a feminist and it's not what you think.
>>54967480
In brothels
>>54976343
Being incapable of admitting one's own fallibility is not the same thing as "arguing too thoroughly". If you are going to continue twisting the argument to suit your agenda as theists always do then there's no point continuing.
>>54976454
>Leaving when you can't think of an argument
Those darn theists, eh?
>>54976512
Theists are incapable of admitting their system of beliefs might possibly have the tiniest inconsistency within it, and they have enormous obligation to this frame of thought.
>>54976641
Theists believe in the things they believe in? I'm shocked.
>>54976707
Feel free to continue dodging the argument.
