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>be 17
>play b-ball
>goin' church
>flash high beams at cops
>get killed
>[spoiler]be white[/spoiler]
>mfw
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/teen-flashed-brights-dead-family-lawsuit_5620005ce4b028dd7ea73d53
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>>53787592
Black lives matter!!!
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>>53787592
Holy shit the cognitive dissonance in the comment section. You know if the kid was black they would all be foaming at the mouth wanting mob justice.

Instead there are a plethora of comments defending the cop and blaming the kid.

These double standards are frustrating. I need to go to the woods and stay there.
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>>53787592
"A seventeen year old kid is being unruly during a traffic stop. Better plug him with seven rounds."
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>>53787592
Lol, what's with the retards not listening to cops there? That guy didn't do what he was told and got shot after he attacked the cop at the end, I'd say it's justified.
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>>53787917
America, fuck yeah!
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>>53787592
he did something
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>>53787946
he dindu nuffin'
he was good boy
he was goin' church
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>>53787611
>>53787715
It's a shame it only matters on skin tone.
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cop was being extremely polite to the kid. kid refused to comply with easy shit. saw too many youtube videos and bam
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>>53787592
Good job officer, you deserve a medal.
I told you marihuana is a deadly drug.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz0-YvDk1Hg

The kid is on video attacking the cop before being shot
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>>53788492
he clearly raged after being tased, police incompetence costed him life
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>>53787932
you live in a police state. the police here think we should be a police state but we are not. the cop had no business pulling him over. the cop refused to give his badge number. the cop refused to tell the kid what crime he commited. he had no business trying to pull him out of the car - etc etc etc ---- everything about this was wrong. the cop didnt get indicted. the cop is a murderer. there are alot of crooked evil cops in our country. the are after EVERYONE - black or white. the media has been pushing the white cop/unarmed nigger agenda but i'm telling you now - if you are not a cop you are a second class citizen sheep in their eyes with no rights whatsoever. if anyone deserves to be doxxed it's Eaton County Sheriff's Sgt. Jonathan Frost
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>be attacked by criminal/gang member
>fight off armed attacker
or
>bend over and take armed attacker's dicking unprotested

If a person is justified in attacking a gangster trying to rob him or harass him, why is he not also justified in attacking a police officer who poses an armed threat and robs him at the side of the road?
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>be american
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>>53788610
Did you just now realize that cops are literal gangster except commissioned by the government?
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>>53788588
>>53788600

And this is bodycams are a pointless waste of time and how BLM and other stupid internet shitheads are getting people killed.

The internet convinced this kid to act like a fucking retard we he got pulled over and when all his stupid bullshit failed him, he freaked out, attacked a cop and got killed.
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>>53787592
He charged the cop and started attacking him, deserved it.

Plus he was a whiney little fag
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>>53787592
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE
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>>53788801
>run
>get murdered
>land of the free
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>>53788801
What should he do according to the internet wisdom?
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>>53788787
Oh no.
I've known this for about 10 years now.
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>Be american
>Get shot by people who are supposed to protect me
>Not even black
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>>53788924
Internet wisdom is what told this kid that once he had a gun drawn on him and was being ordered out of the car to refuse to comply with instructions from the agitated, armed man so he could keep his cellphone recording.

It convinced him that his rights would stop bullets.
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He was a delightful chap.
He did nothing to bring his name into disrepute.
He certainly would have progressed to an Ivy League or equivalent University and henceforth eradicated various vexing ailments.
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>they just want to kill you
>they know they'll get away with it
>gives them boner to think about it
>probably fuck his wife right now thinking about the kid's screems
>greatess nation on earth
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>>53787715
All of the top comments are against the cop though.
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There was absolutely no reason for him not to just comply with the officer and give over the license and registration. But no, he decided to be a smart little shit instead of being a man and owning up to his fault which eventually got him shot. And /pol/ is defending this nigger tier degeneracy?
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>>53789052
>There was absolutely no reason for him not to just comply with the officer and give over the license and registration.
How about his right to be left alone?
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>>53788924
not driving without a license

not lying to the police officer

not being a shithead

>sorry officer i forgot it
>my name is ____
>'aight kid ill check the database'
>'aight whatever kid dont forget it next time' or 'kid you only have a learners permit and were driving illegally, im going to take you the station and your parents are going to pick you up'

in stead of
>AM I BEING DETAINED
>U CANT DO DAT OFFICER
>DONT SHOOT ME BRO
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>>53789089
>How about his right to be left alone?
Which amendment was that?
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>>53789097
>not driving without a license
>not lying to the police officer
>not being a shithead
and you forgot
>not driving sober
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>>53789089
That's one of those problems with all these happening around traffic stops. You don't have a right to drive like a twat at night without a license.
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>Deven Guilford, 17, who had been driving to his girlfriend's house after playing basketball at his church, ...
>Going to church to play basketball
LOL

>The prosecutor also noted that Guilford's body showed the presence of THC
WOH LOL

Shitposting aside, the kid seems pretty innocent
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>>53789013
I think he refused to comply but the reason he attacked was that he got tased, you can hear the sound of taser. So it's officer's fault that he couldnt use the taser properly
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>>53788492
I can't really tell at the end there. What happened?
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>>53789089
No, you're retarded. Please explain to me what he could possibly have benefited from by arguing with the police over something simple like license and registration please?
Even the cop said this could have gone a whole lot better if he just agreed to the officer's request.
He dindu nuffin my ass.
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BRAVO AMERICA

ANOTHER VICTORY FOR FREEDOM
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>>53789159
>presence of THC
good shoot, nothing of value was lost.
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>>53789159
he dindu nuffin
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>>53789021
>you can't do that
>AHHHHHGGHH

fucking justice boner
It's a shame he couldn't have just bashed him over the head with his flashlight. Maybe he could have knocked some sense into him. Little prick.
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>>53789103
>Which amendment was that?
Well it WAS the 4th Amendment until the US Supreme Court illegally decided it was allowed to rewrite the Constitution through "interpretation".

>>53789159
>The prosecutor also noted that Guilford's
body showed the presence of THC
Gotta slander the victim to make their thug look more innocent.
You gotta admire an organization that can not only openly slander the dead, but get away with it and be cheered for doing it.
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>>53787592
>B 17
>Flying over Berlin on 20th mission.
>All I want is to return to the States after my tour is up and chill with my B 24 gf.
>Suddenly alpha male Me. 410 A-1/U4 out of nowhere.
>Blasts a watermelon sized whole through my fuselage.
>I break in half.
>In my final moments I see the alpha Me. 410 rip into my poor B 24 gf (without her consent, the absolute madman.)
>tfw forever a beta.
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>>53787592
He wuz gud boi. He dindu nuffin'. He wuz on hiz way to da church.
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>>53789208
>>53789196
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>>53789238
Be honest with me, when was the last time you pissed your bed?
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>>53789209
>Please explain to me what he could possibly have benefited from by arguing with the police over something simple like license and registration please?
Please justify the cops having the authority to harass citizens at whim.
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Woa this thread. Americans are the ultimate bootlicker cucks.
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>>53787592
>disobey a cops order
>death sentence

How come I here all these stories about local police unable to enforce ordinances and people commiting criminal activities for YEARS while the police try to get them to stop. But when its highway patrol everything must be resolved in 5 mins or less. Literally 5 mins from showing up on scene to struggle and death.

Why was this cop in such a hurry? Why didn't he just wait for backup when he found a guy not complying. WHY DO THEY NEVER WAIT FOR BACKUP?
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>>53789295
I mean, did the kid just struggle against getting arrested, or was he getting up and trying to attack the officer
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>>53789196
Still not really how that works.

Again, once you cross the line between talking shit with a cop, and being placed under arrest, things get serious.

He continued to physically resist. The taser would have been the next step in escalating force since post-lariots, police can't really use batons to just beat the shit out of someone.

Being tasered while resisting arrest doesn't make his attack on the cop any more legal. It sucks that the taser didn't down him, but his response to escalating force was to up it even further. The cop has nowhere to go after that but lethal force.

The kid could have not been a douche and gotten off with a warning, or worst case scenario gotten the arrest thrown out because the basis for the stop was dubious.

Instead, he made the worst decision at every possible junction, ultimately attacking a cop and getting killed.
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>>53787592
>be piece of shit
>don't comply with officer
>drive without a license
>won't show any ID
>resist detainment
>attack cop
>get shot

[spoiler]be dumbass[/spoiler]
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>>53789355
>run away
>get shot in a ditch

bravo just bravo
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>>53789350
This.

They might live in a police state but at least they like it!
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>>53788924

This may sound crazy, but in my 15 years of driving in the states before having to relocate to this shitty 3rd world, I used the following strategy and 9/10 I wasn't ticketed.

1. Have your license and registration ready for the officer when they come up to the door
2. Smile and happily give them it.
3. Ask the officer, what is the problem today and talk to them like a normal human being.

I've been pulled over countless times and got a whole 3 tickets. The ones I got cited for I was going at least 25 over the speed limit, so I can say I deserved those. If this autistic fuck had just given his license and registration and not dropped his spaghetti there wouldn't have been an issues. Tackle cop, get popped.
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i couldve sworn this same exact thing happened months ago
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literally the worst place on earth.
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>>53789159
>GOING TO CHURCH TO PLAY BASKETBALL LIKE OMG MAN
So? some have baskets in their parking lots
>>53789350
sucks how willing some are to perpetuate this
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>>53789314
>Walk up
>Here is what you did to cause me to pull you over
argue
License and registration please
argue
>I pulled you over for this...
argue
>I had a just reason to pull you over
argue
>License and registration please
argue
>License and registration please
argue
>License and registration please
argue
>License and registration please x20
argue x20
>this could have gone better
argue
>get out of the car
resist
>get out of car
resist
>your under arrest
resist
>Lay down flat arms spread x3
>resist x3
>Tazed
attack police officer
>shoot faggot
dead

JUSTICE SERVED
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>>53789448
This happened in February. This is just about the parents ignoring video evidence and filing a civil suit anyway.

All I needed to know what contained in a WaPo article I managed to dig up with a little google.

from teh article:
When Guilford tells him that he’s recording the interaction, Frost says he’s fine with that. According to local media reports, Guilford had recently become interested in civil liberties, particularly with respect to citizen-police interactions. It also appears that he had read some bad advice. In the video, Guilford tells the officer that he isn’t obligated to provide his driver’s license. (Local columnist Judy Putnam reports that Guilford was driving from his girlfriend’s house to a church basketball game and had simply forgotten his license at her home.) This is incorrect. In most places, a driver is obligated to provide a license and registration (and in some states, proof of insurance) when been pulled over, even if the police officer lacked cause for the underlying stop.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/06/22/mistake-over-high-beams-ends-with-michigan-cop-killing-teen/
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>>53788801
>And this is bodycams are a pointless waste of time and how BLM and other stupid internet shitheads are getting people killed.
>And this is bodycams are a pointless waste of time
>And this is bodycams
nice try Michigan Police Department.
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Do guys not realize how gay that wave haircut makes them look? Or do they realize it, which is why they do it?
I guess I'm gettin' too old for this shit.

The cop did him a favor though. He probably would have been doing "poor little white guy" porn when he turned 18.
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>>53789446
>be forced to walk on eggshells in fear because cops are paranoid schizophrenics with power complexes that can kill you in cold blood at any time they feel scared

THIS is a huge problem, and your inability to recognize it is very worrying.
Having people who are afflicted with mental illnesses like paranoia and schizophrenia act as peace officers/police is a very dangerous thing.
Normal citizens with these symptoms are banned from possessing firearms.
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>>53789350
>>53789441

The feral dindu problem has pushed our police to militarize. At times in the past I had to live among them, and honestly I'd take the police state over the #BLM shit heads any day of the week.
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dumb brainwashed corn eater

come to jessus land

get shot by some psychopath with a small dick
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>kid gets shot

WELL HE SHOULDN'T HAVE OFFENDED THE POLICE OFFICER!

If you feel the need to kill a kid because he is being rowdy and is offending you maybe you shouldn't be a police officer?

What's with all the amerifats and their bootlicking?


If a Firefighter is a chicken shit and keeps flinging his crowbar every time he thinks he sees an ember in the corner of his eye, he wouldn't be allowed to be a firefighter anymore.

WHy is it not the same for cops?
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>>53789355
The kid got up really quick after getting tased and lunged at the officer. You can see for a split second where the kid charges him. He definitely didn't try to run away.

By the way this is what he did to the officer within the first 5 seconds of the struggle before getting put down.
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>We always had great respect for law enforcement and the men and women who chose that profession in the past

bootlickers getting what they deserve
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Let's all celebrate murder and abuse in la la land again
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>>53787592
In countries like that there is no questions about why are cops killed there. Question is why isn't more killed for all the bullshit, violence, unlawful actions and murders they commit? They even got their fucking faces and names up for crying out loud.
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>>53789604
>this is what he did to the officer within the first 5 seconds of the struggle before getting put down.
That son of a bitch... he bled on him!
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>>53789497
>here is what you did to cause me to pull you over
>tons of stupid posturing by two retards who dont want to be wrong.
>I could have told you that 2 other people have also flashed me for having overly bright lights, but I didnt. I instead demanded that you identify yourself but refused to identify myself. FUCK YOUR RIGHTS.

3 seconds of not putting your arms behind your back does not call for a tazer. I thought police were only allowed to raise the level of force if a new level of force was used against them or they were in danger.

The cop wasnt in danger with the kid on his stomach. Sure the lil retard was being slow about it but I dont think tazing him was even remotely necessary.

Once again. WHY NOT WAIT FOR BACKUP? WHY DID THIS ALL HAPPEN IN 5 MINS? No time to think or calm down or be smart. EVEN FUCKING BAR FIGHTS TAKE LONGER TO START.
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>>53789559
That's because you're an idiot who can't think past his own fear.

What would happen to the nigger population if cops went away overnight and there was no force available to arrest people who kill feral pavement apes?

Niggers were far better controlled when the citizens, not police, had the job.
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>>53789146
this
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>>53789601
yeah because he totally didn't resist arrest, refused to lie on the ground, stand and attack the police officer, and chase him, right?

you are a dindu right now, you realize this correct?
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>>53788492
This fucking cop KNEW that his headlights were bright as fuck, and was already flashed by others that night, and he still pulls this kid over for giving a courtesy flash.
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>>53788437
>>53788801
>>53789052

What was he pulled over again for? Flashing his lights?

kek... eventually the police will just pull you over for anything.

> confederate flag
> having a shaved head
> being young
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They're both in the wrong. Kid should have been more compliant and the cop shouldn't have used excessive force.
Won't be big news because he's not black >>53787611
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The US police need better training. It seems the first thing a US cop does in any situation is pull out a gun. A Tazer? fine. But a real gun? Completely unnecessary outside of some black ghetto.

They should only draw a gun if they see someone has a gun first, and they should only shoot if the suspect reaches for their gun.

Do you Americans trust your police?
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>>53789354
Yes literally whats not to understand? Its almost like people now a days are fucking retarded and need to take a middle school class on how to not be a dumbass around cops.
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>>53787715
Its funny because if he was black this board would be flooded with comments about him dindu'in nuffin
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>meanwhile in Bolan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1ncr1b44NA
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>>53789689
>run away
>tand and attack the police officer, and chase him
>little nerdy manlet vs 6 feet tall armed gorrila
>JUSTICE
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>>53789052
/pol/ is not hivemind. although i am strongly white wing i do not condone nazi police actions. cop has egotrip mentality of do-what-i-say-when-i-say. there was no reason for it to progress the way that it did. the cop called for backup and should have waited.
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>>53789385
>The cop has nowhere to go after that but lethal force.
he he he... [bootlicking intensifies]
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>>53787592
such a damn shame. Fuck that cop. Anyone can tell that the cop was lying based on how defensive he got. The article says that a total of three cars flashed the cop to put his high beams down. fucking pig
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>>53789604
>>53789641
>>53789355
>mfw one of his cop buddies probably did that little courtesy for him
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>>53789497
This. Absolutely justified.
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>>53789738
These days it requires the same level of training as learning how to work with grizzly bears.
You can't make one false move or you're beaten or dead.

Cops all have mental illnesses. Paranoid schizophrenia.
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>>53789601
>be a cop
>pull over some dickhead who tried to blind me with his highbeams

>"license and registration please"
>"no."
>"p-please?"
>"no I don't have it."
>"well you flashed your brights at me..."
>"it's your fault"
>"o-okay well can you step out of the c-car?"
>"no"
>"h-have a good evening sir"
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>>53789662
You still have not answered my question. What could the kid have possibly benefited from by being a smart ass instead of just doing a simple task the officer ask of him? He could have completely diffused the situation by just being a law abiding citizen.
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>white boi
>goes to church
>dindu nuffin
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>>53789354
So what should be the code of conduct for officers?

You physically attack an officer you die. Literally plain and simple. People think this is fucked up, but it is just protocol.

Should we change the protocol to assist the mentally retarded, so that an officer must be hit 3 times? 5 times? Seriously whats the fucking limit that you can attack an officer and not get shot?
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>>53789547

I've never felt forced to walk on egg shells around cops. I was raised in a household to talk to others in your day to day impersonal interactions with professional courtesy, something lost on most of my fucking retarded generation. Do fire arms make you feel uncomfortable? Shouldn't you be shilling in a Sanders thread?
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>>53789641
>>53789795

But I'll bet this is proof Zimmerman would have died that night if he didn't defend himself.
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>>53787592
This is getting ridiculous, yanks. Next you'll shoot someone who jaywalks. You need to retrain your cops.
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>>53789887
>So what should be the code of conduct for officers?
Not harassing citizens in the first place.
The cop put himself in a position to be attacked for no rational reason.
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God bless the boys in blue. One more liberal down.
>Eurocucks commenting on police state meme
Wow it's shocking that repeatedly resisting arrest, questions etc and clearly being dumb and or on some sort of substance then trying to flee gets you killed. Literally a dindu who took things to that stage.

Would take a the occasional power tripper I won't run into because I'm not degenerate over state funded allahuackbars you're jailed for speaking out against
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>>53789838
>be a cop
>pull over an innocent kid because I'm bored
>execute him with a panzerfaust
>jerk off to his dismembered body
>murica
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>>53789915
>You need to retrain your cops.
The unions would never allow it.
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>>53789817
I will middle with you friend, how about cops get training to recieve 1 hit and they aren't allowed to shoot, and kids in middle school get taught that they get one free hit before they get shot?

I may sound satirical but I want to know the flaw in my logic.
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I wish the cop wouldn't have pulled the kid over in the first place. He knew what the kid was doing and he stated that other people had been doing the same thing. The problem is obviously with HIS lights and not the with the people flashing him.

That being said, the behaviour of the kid justifies the cops response.

Just idiots killing eachother. Round and round we go.
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>>53789888
>Do fire arms make you feel uncomfortable?
They do in the hands of the government and its enforcers. God damn right.
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>>53789768
>>53789662
You know what, you are actually right on this. The police officer did not have to taze or shoot the kid, he could have handled it much better. But I believe the arrest the justified, if you continuously resist an officers simple request, you're going to be arrested. end of story. But it all goes back on the kid, why did he have to argue over it in the first place?
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>>53789808
>>53789497

actually - he had no reason to pull him over. 2 other people had signaled to the cop to let the cop know that the cops lights were overly bright. this is not an offense and not a reason to pull anyone over. the kid had committed no offense and nazicop had no business asking for der papers
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>How do I know you're a real cop?
>I don't have my ID I'm driving to go get it
>I don't have it because I just dropped my brother off at church
>I actually do have my ID I just don't have to show it to you
I'm pretty sure this kid is a legit retard.
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>>53789915
>we need to retrain cops so 17 year olds can attack cops without getting shot

hm
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Land of the free™
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>>53789964
>why did he have to argue over it in the first place?
Because he was pulled over for no reason and he's too young to realize you take your lumps and go for a huge settlement in court.
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>all these people defending the cop killing him when he shouldn't have been pulled over in the first place because the cop was baiting
>hurr you should be shot if you dont spread your buttchecks wide if a power hungry cop asks you to
the statism in /pol/ is fucking disgusting
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>>53790013
>no reason
>driving erratically isnt a reason
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>>53789944
>That being said, the behaviour of the kid justifies the cops response.
Not really. A man has the right to be angry when some goon harasses him for no logical reason.
If you get mad at niggers fucking with citizens for no reason, you must logically get mad at cops for doing the exact same shit.

Why is it acceptable for the government to accost people?
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>>53789973
flashing your high beams is an offense son
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>>53789738
maybe its the cops who need a lesson in 1776 and what happens when you treat people like cattle
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>>53789920

I simply am retarded. So the kid can sit in the car and pretend to not have a license for hours on end until the cop gets bored and lets him go?

This is what the kid was trying to do. Officer ordered choices for the young man to choose, and the young man answered none of the above. Unfortunately in this test it is not a create you own solution scenario.
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>>53790036
"Driving erratically"
Nice excuse. Flashing your lights to warn other drivers about pigs isn't driving erratically. It just cuts in to ticket quotas and the money stolen in fines.
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>>53790041
you have no rights but the ones you are willing to die for and this kid was willing to die for them and faggots talk like that because they dont want rights
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>>53789662
>>3 seconds of not putting your arms behind your back does not call for a tazer.

except he got a tazer for more than 3 seconds of not putting his arms behind his back

he got it for resisting arrest and refusing every single countless lawful order he was given

he refused to comply even when shown a threat of violence
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Why do police travel alone?
I'm pretty sure that police here always travel on pairs.
I'm not saying the officer is at fault here, but the kid wouldn't be dead if there was another officer there.
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>>53790036
>no mention of erratic driving by anyone including the cop on his bodycam
Sure thing officer.
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>all these faggots trying to slight cops when he was lunged at by a brain dead idiot lying through his teeth(proven with his license fib)
Right wing please come back. This disrespect for actual genuine enforcement of authority is just another way liberalism is eating away at nations
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>>53790029
Its called not being a nigger my melanin enriched friend
You dont chimp out because all it does is get you shot
You take it to court
This is evolution in action
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>>53789891
Zimzam case was the case of a trigger happy guy meeting a gangsta wannabe.

If your officers act like hysterical women they shouldn't be allowed to carry guns. Choose smarter people next time.
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>>53790073

Perhaps if one does not act like cattle, one shall not be treated as such.
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>>53789887
>Should we change the protocol to assist the mentally retarded

Absolutely. Some people in the world are mentally handicapped. There needs to be appropriate force. Someone Hitting a cop isn't putting the cops life in danger. Use a baton, hit a suspect and restrain him.

Think about what you have to do to get a death sentence in court and compare that to a cop shooting a guy 7 times for an unarmed assault.
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>>53790087
The young man was not armed and did not initiate the confrontation.
He was not the aggressor, and thus was well within his right as a human to not comply with an aggressive goon out for easy money.
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>>53790036
where did the article say that he was driving erratically? He was pulled over for flashing the cop to let him that his high beams were on, like any good driver should. In fact, that cop pulled over 3 cars that night because they all did the same thing, warn the cop about the high beams.
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>>53790087
its called their job if he didnt want to do it he shouldnt have pulled someone over for flashing
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>>53790087
>Officer ordered choices for the young man to choose
>choices
what fucking choice
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>>53789838
Then you arrest him. You don't shoot him because he offended you by not complying.
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>>53790029
are you new here? not asking in a derogatory manner but /pol/'s ideology was always "statism/socialism/projectionism is good if it benefits me"

most if not all of /pol/ consist of this hypocrite branch of conservatives.
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Why not just tase him and handcuff him to the car or something and then arrest him and take him down to the station?

I mean I know empathy isn't a thing in America but having your life taken for something so minor is pretty upsetting.
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I have gotten pulled over when the registration on my car and my DL were both expired, I had a tail light out, and had been drinking at a friends house.

I was polite, I denied drinking at all when asked, and I swore to get my stuff fixed.

Did not even get a fix it ticket.

Got pulled over a month later for the same shit, still nothing.

2 months after that I finally got a fix it ticket.


My point is, cops are bros, how can anyone hate them? Just act like a fucking decent person and respect their authority.
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>>53789385
>the cop has nowhere to go after that but lethal force
Buddy, what? I regularly deal with punk kids who misbehave, if they lunge at me I just clock them and throw them out. I work as a secutrityb guard.

If you, as a grown ass male cant cold clock a 17 year old kid, you have no fucking business being a cop. Shooting him? Why? What the fuck is the worst that can happen, a broken nose? Its a punk ass 17 year old, not even fully grown. Take the punch and break the faggots arm. Come on.
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>>53790041
The correct course of action is to record and comply and then file a complaint after the fact.

He chose to record and not comply and escalate the situation to where the cop was forced to defend himself.

He didn't have his license and decided he was going to armchair lawyer himself out of it. He was an idiot and he paid for it.
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>>53790172
dont make thes fags think they just want to shoot and be called heros
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>>53790172
>Someone Hitting a cop isn't putting the cops life in danger

yes it is

if you subdue a cop, you can easily take his gun and end his life

Don't attack people and you won't fucking die.

If you attack others you deserve to be put down like the violent animal you are, "armed" or not.

Especially when the difference between being armed and unarmed is how effectively the officer can fend off the "unarmed (black?) teen" attacking him and reaching for their gun.
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The kid was driving high and without a license. He deserved the stop even if it was for no good reason.
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>>53790172

I could not agree more, I wish someone would invent fully automatic tasers with 30 round magazines, just shock the fool out. No death, no problem, suspect detained.

This world is simply not technologically advanced enough to lower the death rate in non compliance issues.

At least not in America where there are alot of firearms rolling out and about.
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>>53790071
maybe in spic island. protected free speech here. spic.
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>>53790243
i hope you sneeze and get domed you idiot fuck the cowardly fearful police
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>>53790215
apparently he did taze him

he got back up and kept fighting

most tazers are single shot, and I doubt he carried a reload
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Completely and totally justified shooting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lRWoThpv8s

Whole event recorded until that albino dindu broke that cop's camera. Glad he's dead.
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>>53788801
Agreed. People think they don't have to be "nice" to cops but the truth is it will always pay off. The street is not the right place to hold court. You won't win.

Honest to God if you are just polite to the police everything goes just fine. Even if they are accusing you of something you are completely innocent of, wait and take it up in court. Works very, single time.

Yes you have to have manners with cops. its not fun or fair sometimes, but it will keep you alive.
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i'm black and love shitting on cops whenever possible but its not possible here

ive been pulled over a billion times for speeding but i give them my shit and go away. this kid was being a complete dumbass and he even got his white privilege tazing first before getting murked
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Why didn't the kid call 9-11 as soon as the cop threw his door open and started grabbing at him?
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I wonder, if this was a 17yo blonde girl, would cop kill her too?
That's right, check your kill privilege.
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>>53789208
Alright, looking at the video again, he was attempting to play handcuffs on the kid and the kid was resisting multiple times.

The video then turns toward the car when the officer decides to taze the kid (he cuts off his "you're under arrest" sentence midway).

A few frames after the taser starts shocking him, you can see the office moving backwards around 5 to 10 steps (toward the front of the kid's car) taser in view.

The very last frames before it all goes to black and lights (pic related) shows the kid who has gotten up and is charging the officer

After 15 seconds of who knows what (but I assume the office wrestling/fighting the kid on the ground in the right lane of the highway) shots start firing.
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>>53790296
Free speech seems to not protect you from bullets.
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>>53790158
take it to court and lose because its your word versus a cop and who do you think the judge is going to with. there was no reason for him to even be pulled over and even after he was every action the cop took was obviously in the wrong.
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>>53790208
>sweeping generalizations
when has the majority of pol in recent times been against police? have you not noticed how much natsoc there is on here? ffs not sure how many here are genuinely defending this kid. he was ruined by society and better off dead if he was dumb enough to start hitting a fucking cop.

if you don't care for an authoritative right wing then good for you, but much of pol does and even those who don't can see though a lying degenerate teen that will become another dindu posterboy
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could just i dunno give him your license and don't be a cunt

deserved it tbh
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>>53790317
fuckin tool suck more gov cop dick and watch football
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>>53790341
nah man pussy is useful.

retarded stoner kids are literally worthless tbh
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>>53790296
it's an offense in most states, look it up

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headlight_flashing#United_States
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>>53789208
The little blonde shit refused to let the officer cuff him and resisted arrest.

The officer proceeded to taser the blonde boy but the taser was ineffective and the blonde boy attempted to attack/disarm the officer. The officer drew drew his firearm and put him down.
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>>53790181

Easy money my ass, I may be wrong, please correct me, but the cost to process this kid's ticket is far greater than any fine.

We lose tax money every time a citation is issued.
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>>53789985
Yes. Why shoot? He's unarmed and he's fucking 17. Roll with the punch, take out your night stick and beat him senseless. Killing him is just excessive.
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>Cop Shouldn't have tazed
>He shouldnt have resisted on multiple fronts throughout the whole ordeal

I totally understand why he attacked the cop after being tazed, but people need to know the minute you attack a person in general, you are potentially forfeiting your life, when its a police officer with a firearm, you are basically committing suicide.
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I just don't understand you pro-police faggots.

You HATE niggers with a passion. Why?
Because they're violent, stupid, steal people's shit, and terrorize the citizenry.
But cops do all this shit too, and not just in localized areas, but all over.

Justify why it's alright for armed thugs to harass and steal from citizens going about their day when believe it's a bad thing when niggers do it.
>that's what the law says!
That isn't a justification, it's an excuse. Morally justify the cops acting, literally acting, like the enforcement arm of an organized crime syndicate.
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>>53790172
Some guy starts punching you in the dark on a highway with traffic. You haven't been able to search him yet. Nothing bad could possibly happen here, right?
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I think everyone needs to line up in front of the firing squad and play simon says with your lives. you cattle waiting for slaughter. at least the jew banks cant take his meat now.
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>>53790332
He didn't have his info and told the officer that. The cop didn't tell him why he was being pulled over. Several other people flashed at the cop. He was high and afraid and the cop tried to yank a fucking minor out of the car and then put a taster in his face.

The cop is a power-mad asshole who NEEDS HIS BADGE REMOVED PERMANENTLY
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>black kid attacks cop and gets killed
>"hahaha thug deserved it kek"
>white kid attacks cop and gets killed
>"DINDU NUFFIN!!"

I'm convinced /pol/ is just right wing tumblr
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That's what happens when two pricks meet.

>>53788610
Also this. The officer didn't do his job properly.

What the fuck do you expect would someone react like when you attack them for no reason? Nobody would comply with his orders in that situation.
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>>53790425
It's a different kind of theft, if you really want to classify it as that.

They aren't actively stealing your stuff for themself.
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>>53790254
he had thc in his system. not the same as dwi. media has the demonize the victim - he's white.
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>>53789497

>Heading home from porking my 16 year old GF
>Some twat as his highs on, I can't see shit
>Give him a courtesy flash
>It's a pissy cop who somehow takes it as an insult and decides to pull me over
>Oh fuck I forget my license in my GFs twat.
>I'm going to get a ticket for courtesy flashing this asshole driving with his highs on.
>Oh wow he's actually trying to argue that he didn't actually have his highs on even though he clearly did.
>Now he's refusing to give me his fucking badge number.
>I literally didn't do anything but try to get this faggot to dim his highs and now he's going forcing my door open and trying to grab the shit out of me.
>He's asking me to get out of my car in the middle of winter, wearing nothing but a T-shirt and short, and lay down on the freezing ground.
>Because I made the mistake of courtesy flashing an ego tripping pissy faggot.
>At least I can record all of this to protect myself.
>Oh what the fuck he just threw my 400$ phone across the pavement, what's wrong with this guy
>OW FUCK HE'S TAZING ME HE'S FUCKING INSANE HE'S GOING TO KILL ME FUCK WHAT DO I DO
>Get shot

Such is life in America.
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>>53790229
A number of people itt are probably shilling tbh. Compliance and respect should be a trait citizens hold, but modern day FUK DA PoHLICE movements are taking that all away in another attempt to degrade western stability. it wasn't even a matter of the kid being a dumbass, he flat out refused to comply 20 times before attacking him.
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>>53790425
>Justify why it's alright for armed thugs to harass and steal from citizens going about their day

It is not okay. Why are you under the impression this is what cops do?
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>>53790201

either give officer license, registration, and insurance, or go to jail.

I for one do not enjoy driving on the road with people that don't belong there. I know everyone likes paying taxes so unregistered drivers can tear up the roads and break traffic laws.
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>>53790208
>are you new here?
no, but is topped coming here when got infested with the majority being bootlicking faggots
>/pol/'s ideology was always "statism/socialism/projectionism
you obviously werent here pre 2013
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I watched this expecting to be outraged but the kid does seem to attack the cop at the end, and the officer was actually quite patient with him for the most part despite the kid's stupid attitude. I'm not saying he necessarily deserved to be shot but this is one of those cases where if the kid were black the naysayers in this thread would be singing a different tune
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>>53790293

You don't need more Tech and its not all about guns. Get a baton and beat the shit out of him with it. Break a leg if you need to. You yanks think everything starts and ends with your fucking guns.
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>>53789052
While the officer was (maybe) wrong to come at him, everything that happened afterwards is his own damn fault.

If he felt the officer was in the wrong, all hed have to do is sue afterwards, get rich and then mock the officer for the rest of his life. Instead, he charged the guard and made the rest of his life very, very short.

Its a sad situation, but I dont think the officer should be punished for it.
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>>53790434
remind me to shoot the next person that doesnt let me search them when i want to talk to them because i think they did something wrong
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>>53787592
Ugh... Just another white male who doesn't understand his privilege. Yuk.
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>>53790370
Still better than ending up dead. No this cop probably shouldn't have pulled him over. But had the kid just complied, or at the very least was polite he would still be alive.

I am sitting on my couch with my house cat. I am relaxed. If I look over and he suddenly became lion my behavior would have to change real quick. Same is true when you are around authorities. If you can't figure that out then you are just simple. It is just another example of natural selection. Adapt or die.
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>>53790474
>They aren't actively stealing your stuff for themself.
This doesn't matter.
They're still stealing, with a visible firearm.
If YOU have a visible firearm and you take someone's money, that's classed as armed robbery, and it's usually a severe felony with 5+ years prison time.

>>53790495
>It is not okay. Why are you under the impression this is what cops do?
That's literally what they do in cases like this.
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>>53790388
>it's an offense in some states, look it up
ftfy

not. in. michigan.
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The kid was a moron, arguing with a fucking cop and being a stupid shit. He didn't deserve to die,but godammit why they fuck not comply? If the cop wants to see your license, give him your fucking license. If you don't have it on you then fess up and just tell him.

Chances are if the cop would know the know the car isn't stolen, but the stupid little fuck decided to mess around arguing making him seem suspicious as fuck. If someone is lying, resisting arrest and not complying with instructions any cop would assume something weird is going on.
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>>53790454
This situation is completely different and you know that.
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why are all the yuros so butthurt

if he was black the thread would be nothing but dindu dindu dindu

if he was black he wouldn't have gotten tased

fuck white boys and fuck pigs, hope more of you bootlickers think being white will save you and then end up like this fag
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>>53789604

>Killing someone for punching you because you tazed, humiliated, insulted and harassed him because you're prissy about driving in a car with bad headlights.

Justified.
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>>53790370
The cop had a camera on him, and thats the way going forward, so most cops would end up having a camera on them (to protect us as much as to protect themselves), so any wrongdoing would be readily available.

Guy was also recording in his own phone.

You could be right, perhaps, a few decades ago.
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>>53790550
Cases like what? Not in the case of the OP.
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>>53790487
I agree that THC means nothing but he sounds intoxicated as fuck in the video
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>>53790569
Problem is nobody trusts cops nowadays, and on top of that add that the cop didn't do his job properly.
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>>53790425

Because it's not about being racist or being righteous.

It's about being sadistic to anyone they feel deserves it. To fill an empty void in their heart.

They are hostile psychopaths and like their inner emo make decisions for them, just like a woman.

People are suffering in their own minds, they are going to hell.
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>>53790454
So he attacked a cop?
Then he's retarded and it's just natural selection.

If you're going to attack someone make sure you can fucking win, dumb-asses.
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>>53787592
>pig entraps people into committing "crime" to drive up government income
>gets one
>gets two
>gets three
>kills him
>IT WAS JUSTIFIED! WE PIGS DINDU NUFFIN!

this is exactly why pigs are worse than niggers.
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>>53790574
What happened only happened because he was black in spirit. He acted like a dindu, he got the dindu treatment.
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>See black kid
>"Police shot and killed him"
>Assume that the black kid deserved it
>Evidence shows the black kid deserved it

>See white kid
>"Police shot and killed him"
>Assume that the white kid deserved it
>Evidence shows the white kid deserved it

Turns out it's not the race that's the defining factor, it's the fact that if you got shot by police, it's highly likely you deserved it.
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>>53790492
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS
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Also, people seem to forget, that when an armed threat approaches you, your natural responses are fight or flight.
The cops know this which is why they always act passive aggressive to elicit a fight/flight response.
Expecting someone, especially a male, to not go into survival mode when a clear and present danger has made itself known is fucking retarded.
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>>53790574
He acted like a nigger, got treated like one. Tried Mike Browning the officer hard and got dindu'd hard.
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>>53790494
or did the cop not comply with a citizens right to not be searched but upon issuance of a warrant that includes showing an ID yes you have to tell him your name but not present ID
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>>53790623
did you watch the video? after he got tazed, he just got back up and started swinging at the cop
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>>53790539
Asking for a license is not "searching". It's not even the same as being asked for ID while walking down the street, which people love to equate it to.
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>>53790652
When you're the agency in charge of the evidence, it's very easy to make the evidence show that your victim deserved it.
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>>53790672
um he was calm until treated violently. niggers are never calm
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>>53790623
The kid was high and feared for his own life. The cop refused to give his badge number, threw his door open, and tried yanking him out. Because the cop got his ego hurt and wanted to feel big.
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http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/story/news/local/2015/06/17/photos-injured-sergeant-involved-fatal-shooting-released/28889097/

This kid was a white dindu. I'm glad his life was extinguished.
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>>53790492

I am really saying that a 3 day class on how not to get killed by acting like an uppity fucking idiot, whilst in elementry school, will save countless lives.

I understand what should be right or wrong enforcement on the cops side, but statistically speaking, informing the public on basic rules of how the police work, and how to use them to your advantage should be mandatory for all citizens participating in society.
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>>53790158

Thank you nippon, based as fuck as always.

>>53790370

Spoken like a nigger who has never contested a traffic violation. You just sit around waiting your EBT. Next time you get a citation, try putting down the 40, getting off the porch with the homies, and give it a try down at the court house when you get one. For bonus points, be sure not to sag your pants and tuck your shirt in.
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>>53790570
Saying this as a devout racist, both were justified. Don't assault a cop over a petty traffic stop and you won't get shot.
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>>53790671
>that cop acts passive aggressive
>had to explain self 80 times to drugged up lying shitstain
okay I'm out I'm done this thread is too underage and leftist to even bother reasoning
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>>53789097
>cop gets pissed cause he gets flashed all night for having bright lights people mistake for highbeams.
>officer pulls over kid to explain his bright lights and give kid a warning [fucking why?] kid tries to talk his way out of it, since pullover for flashing is a pretty lame reason.
>kid tries to talk out of it shittily, using all his internet tricks, because hes trying to hide the fact he forgot his license. Continues trying to get the cop to fuck off so he doesnt get cited for no license
>cop gets agitated and decides fuckit this kids getting a charge because hes being unruly (cause hes trying to hide his lack of license)
>kid finally admits to not having a license
>cop keeps demanding it despite being told he doesnt have it
>escalates until cop calls for backup on a routine stop, then immediatly tries to yank kid out of the car instead of asking him to step out
>kid refuses
>cop pulls taser and threatens until kid complies
>cop keeps making agitated demands while kid whines and is slow to comply, keeps using his fucking phone
>cop keeps getting agitated and mounts him and for some ungodly fuck reason shoots his taser at point blank
>kid spazzes and presumably this is the point where he reacts against the officer, who is right fucking on top of him
>officer immediatly pulls his firearm and blows him away

What the fuck, the fucking army is less shit at police duty than this. Of course the kid is going to spazz out when you taze him from 0 inches away. hes a twig just get him in handcuffs and move on.

Cop was just waving his dick around from having his time wasted all day havinh to explain his bright car, and turned full hulk at the first sign of resistance, while the kid was being a dick while trying to hide a lame offense that got the retarded cop agitated enough to let this dumbfuck event happen.
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>>53790523
>if the kid were black the naysayers in this thread would be singing a different tune
not everybody has the retarded attitude of hurr fuck all niggers, so generalize me with those faggots. i remember the threads of that cop unjustly shooting the black guy in his car and all the retards here could focus on was the black guy saying i didnt do nothing instead of being able to see some powerhungry cop murdering a guy
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>>53787592
>best up cop
>get shot
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>>53790712
Watch the video. It's all the evidence you need
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You foreigners don't understand how much of an asshole Americans are. They're rude to service workers, hate their families, distrust their government, don't talk to their neighborhoods, pick fights with people in the streets, and literally murder each other nonstop.

These people are out of control.
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>>53790229
>My point is, cops are bros,

Cops aren't all the same person. And these events aren't common. But they still happen.

Your personal experience is meaningless.
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>>53790752

i agree with you, but i do think a lot of the people ITT who are saying "oh my god this poor child" would change their mind if he were black

just speculating out loud

like you, i imagine that i'm pretty consistent
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>>53790765
I did.
I saw a cop intentionally choose to go and fuck with someone because he was bored out of his tit and wanted more tickets.
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>>53790686

no, tazing would have led to incapcitation, the cop missed, the kid swung. You can't swing after being tased, and if you disagree, all you are telling me is that you have never been tased.
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>>53790787
Anarchists are the only subjetive ones here.

Cop didn't do his job properly, and was a prick as much as the kid. It's assault and murder in self defense.
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>>53790718
he lied and resisted, was p nigger tbh

>>53790678
That meme doesn't even apply in homes anymore.
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>>53787592
DIN DU NUFFIN! WAS A GFOOD BOPY GOIN TO CHURCH ERRY DAY
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>>53787917
"A seventeen year old kid is being unfunny during a traffic stop. Better turn him into Swiss cheese.
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>>53790492
SnowNigger, I've been blinded by so many assholes who decide that tonight my dirty, factory lancer headlights with the cheapo replacement bulbs look like high beams that I'm glad this kid got killed for it. I hope it serves as a warning to others.
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anyone here saying blah blah comply blah blah deserves fucking shackles. too bad you fags are the majority.
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>>53790207
>Then you arrest him
He was trying to arrest him.

>You don't shoot him because he offended you by not complying.
He wasn't shot for not complying. He was tased for not complying. He was then shot for attempting to murder the officer. I'll wait for you to explain why attempted murder of a police officer does not warrant the use of deadly force.
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>>53790830
Cry more nigger
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Bad goy.
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This article is very short on details and facts. Even if the cop was overstepping his authority, the kid didn't do himself any favors by acting like a nigger. No cop is going to let you off the hook after failing to produce an ID while operating a motor vehicle. Too many red flags.
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>>53790830
Go fuck off to Somalia you sheep
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>>53790821
because apathetic fags like you just throw your arms up and comply not know that you rights are not god given and require blood
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>>53787592
>high
>17
>didn't bother to give cop what he asked for

Yea, probably didn't need to die. But he's the same as all the other dumb niggers that get killed from these situations.
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>>53790830
honestly i'm all for asserting your rights if you actually understand the law. this kid had no fucking clue what his rights were and because of his choice to "flex" rights he didn't actually have, he got killed. he's not a sympathetic character.
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>>53790784
>And these events aren't common. But they still happen.
No they literally do not. We never see a video that starts with people being polite to the cops. It is always jackasses who think the cops do not have the authority they actually have.

The event of being polite to the cop, and then ending up dead, does not happen.
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>>53790164
>If your officers act like hysterical women they shouldn't be allowed to carry guns. Choose smarter people next time.

This is true.
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>>53790807
>didn't get tased
>Kid yells "oww" after the taser went off
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>>53790886
suck another bureaucrats dick and hope he lets you eat the cum this time
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>>53790733
>keep your head down
>don't complain
>submit

Lol Americans would rather be little bitches than enforce a little more strict rules for the cops (like not using lethal force in what basically amounted to a fist fight)
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>>53790747
>Of course the kid is going to spazz out when you taze him from 0 inches away
He followed it up with attacking the officer, that what got him killed.
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>>53788777
>get trips
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>>53790889
>oh just wait there you drugged up piece of shit while I get the paperwork ready
I don't want undesirables like him left alive. third reich now you libertarian cuck
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>>53789749
that is exactly what the person you are replying to said...

we need to purge the retards from this board
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It's 2015, police should digitally get warrants from courts to stop and harass citizens.

Y/Y?
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>>53790917
well since balls are fucking no where in this country people need to take advantage of the dumb ones who unknowingly risk their lives fighting for them
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>>53790863
from teh article:
When Guilford tells him that he’s recording the interaction, Frost says he’s fine with that. According to local media reports, Guilford had recently become interested in civil liberties, particularly with respect to citizen-police interactions. It also appears that he had read some bad advice. In the video, Guilford tells the officer that he isn’t obligated to provide his driver’s license. (Local columnist Judy Putnam reports that Guilford was driving from his girlfriend’s house to a church basketball game and had simply forgotten his license at her home.) This is incorrect. In most places, a driver is obligated to provide a license and registration (and in some states, proof of insurance) when been pulled over, even if the police officer lacked cause for the underlying stop.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2015/06/22/mistake-over-high-beams-ends-with-michigan-cop-killing-teen/

Internet wisdom is what told this kid that once he had a gun drawn on him and was being ordered out of the car to refuse to comply with instructions from the agitated, armed man so he could keep his cellphone recording.

It convinced him that his rights would stop bullets.
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>>53790578
>Killing someone for punching you
It was attempted murder.
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>>53790652

> it's highly likely you deserved it.

Remember that when you are going to hell you atheist fedora wearing pedo faggot.
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>>53790652
>>Evidence shows the white kid deserved it
you didn't watch the video, did you.
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>>53790933
Yeah man fuck the system man, let me drive high man!!! Politicians! Um, dumb cops! Fuck em man!!!
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>AM I BEING DETAINED!?!
>I DON'T HAVE TO GIVE YOU MY LICENSE
>THIS IS WHAT AMERICA LOOKS LIKE
>Y-YOU CAN'T DO THAT

Yeah, don't give a shit about this kid.
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>>53790969
my fuckin ka-bar and bear jew with a baseball bat are waiting areva derche faggot
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>>53790936

it's easier to talk like this when your country is 95% white and the size of half of one US state. A once-in-a-century probability in your country happens daily here whether we have the same policies as you or not.
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>>53790926
>cop has the first shot
>Misses completely
>guy turns his back after shooting cop to walk away
>cop shoots and fucking misses again
>he comes up close to execute the cop
>cop finally hits him once with a flesh wound
>cop gets shot through the head

All I saw in that video was one person far better trained taking out another who was lax with his. Never relax.
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>>53790936
What a strawman

In all these videos the people freak out and resist or run away or fight the cop or start screaming about how they're free inhabitants or some shit.

Now imagine dealing with that every day for years.

American people are insane. Nearly all are strung out on pills, think they're better than everyone else, and will fight men armed with firearms.
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>>53790978
What the fuck was he fighting for? The right to drive without a license?
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Someone post there webm/video of the cop who just tears off a guy's window.
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>>53790382
Was what I said really that bad? It is so much to ask that you are polite to people and respect authority. Is waiting to deal with it in the court system really that bad? No wonder this generation is full of beta fags. Real men are becoming a thing of the past.
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