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How can the American public education system be improved?

hardmode: no using ad-subtrahere juden or "homeschool everyone"

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>>44813002

Stupid people breed much more efficiently than intelligent people.
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>>44813002
1.) Eliminate no child left behind
2.)Abolish compulsory attendance
3.)Restructure the national board of education

4.)Mandate learning a foreign language from kindergarten to middle school Studying French for a year in high school wastes time and definitely doesn't result in a fluent student.

I'm pretty sure there's this god-tier school system that requires learning an instrument and a foreign language, as well as discouraging discussion of shitty public media while in school. I forget the name of it, though I should really look into it for any future crotchspawn.
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>>44813120
I could support something like this.

How about standardized testing and Common Core?
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Get rid of standardized testing, or at the very least stop tethering the results to school funding. I know why they thought it was a good idea; to give schools a monetary incentive to teach their students, but the end result is a disaster. Schools will only teach the content of the tests to keep the results high. This of course leaves remarkably unacceptable gaps in the actual education of the students because it destroys a child's creativity and desire to learn, on top of tying the hands of what would otherwise be a great teacher by forcing them to follow what is by the time it's trickled down to them a seriously outdated or inaccurate curriculum.
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>>44813002
Start by upping the quality of the teachers. Requirements for teaching is pathetically low. The people teaching your kids are the ones drinking 4 days out of the week, then complain how tough the program is.
Not a stretch to think something is wrong with the 2.3gpa teacher will teach people at a 2.3gpa level.

>Cut out most of the standardized testing.
Teachers will take significant time to teach you how to take the test instead of just teaching you information. I got very good taking tests without knowing much information and a coin.
You have to have some testing but I was having 2-3 tests a year at one point.

Need to stratify the smart from the dumb. Teachers will always have to teach to the pace of the dumbest kids in class.
Dumb kids need to be held back. Simple as that. Niggers should not be graduating highschool, yet, be unable to read.
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>>44813120
Depends on the test. College entrance exams probably won't get phased out for obvious reasons.

All that elementary/middle school standardized testing should be restructured. I get the purpose of it, but it's currently a shitty system - and yeah, it shouldn't be tethered to school funding, as stated by >>44813193

It should, however, be used to filter students out in combination with no compulsory attendance We should have solid understandings of what a student should know when it comes to verbal and mathematical skills by say, 4th, 6th, 8th and 10th grade. Failure to meet the requirements gives you one additional semster of grace to retake it. Failing a second time results in expulsion.
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>>44813357
Sorry, meant to quote >>44813180

Also, *semester in my previous post.
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>>44813002
Redirect all funding to voucher programs. Parents now have to make a direct agreement with the school before it receives funding. Failing schools go under, good schools prosper.
>but failing schools is bad
They will work to improve. Right now there is no reason for a school to succeed.
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>>44813002
This picture makes me physically angry. God I fucking hate stupid goddamn hicks
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Classical education. Trivium and quadrivium.
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1. Separate the boys and girls.

2. Stop teaching all the social shit. Go back to the basics: math, science, reading, etc.
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>>44813476
You beta cucks will be the first to be skinned alive by the nignog hordes when SHTF. You will suck a redneck dick to protect you from the unchained nogmob. Get some Carmex. I like a little tingle with my BJ.
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>>44813002

Simple

Just add a 5th main subject called computer science and coding starting in the first grade

by the time your 18 you will know all the major computer sciences and we will crush the Asians
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As of some years ago, most teachers needed to do a better job of maintaining an orderly classroom. Every school has a set of rules, written in it's rulebook. It is pretty much the same everywhere. In those rules, there are rules against violence and harassment. If the purpose of school is to educate the students, an orderly classroom is absolutely necessary for that.
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>>44813002
You abolish it and replace it with vouchers.
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>>44813613
It's a good idea, the problem is the implementation.
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>>44813522
This. Stop teaching teen pregnancy and how to be a mindless democrat voter. Start teaching shit with value.
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>>44813002
Asthmatic, Civics, English, Basic Sciences, and Latin till middle school.

Then based on aptitude STEM, trade or Arts, but everyone must know household math, basic economics, logic, proficiency in English and Latin and pass a citizenship test. School uniforms are mandatory. Rebalance spending, kill the unions. School for six days a week starting at 10am and ending at 4pm. Replace summer vacation with more breaks to avoid brain drain.
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Destroy the federal government
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>>44813723
Asthmatic, meant to be arithmetic
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>>44813002
get rid of the Dept of Education and let local and state governments handle schooling
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>>44813931
Someone's got a hard on for mathematics. Only maybe one in a hundred thousand would be able to keep up with that incline. Most children do not benefit from being exposed to mathematics that early in life. IIRC there was a study done that showed children who started learning maths at age 12 performed better at the same level than children who started learning maths at age 6.
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>>44813002

>get rid of niggers
>use white people curriculum

there, that was easy.
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>>44813522
>>44813716
They can simply refrain from socializing the students to be vapid degenerates, enforce a strict dress code (possibly even a school uniform) wherein everyone is strictly forbidden from making a whore of themselves with their clothing choices, and discourage social interaction during class time, let alone the insipid overly sexualized drivel of dumb whores getting mad at some girl for not being a whore with them. However, compulsory attendance age should be lower than 16, so that anyone who doesn't want to learn isn't shitting things up for those who do. I think the wrong people have been dropping out.
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>look at opinion now and compare it to what my opinion was when I was 14
>it looks about the same

I am some kind of anti-delinquent who was too nazi for most of their teachers.
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>>44814044
>Only maybe one in a hundred thousand would be able to keep up with that incline

And what's wrong with some kids falling behind in slower moving programs? One size fits all is the communist cancer killing education.
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Also teachers reserve the right to smack the shit out of preppy cunts and cheeky niggers
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>>44814229
Some kids falling behind is normal. If your curriculum is beyond the majority of your students, pounding their heads into it over and over again isn't going to get you smarter kids; just angrier dumb kids.
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Read Lockhart's Lament
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1) Remove the SAT system, it's outdated
1b) However Elementary School and Middle School both should have graduation requirements well above their current level, and to implement it effectively they may need a similar system just to keep cost down.
2) Mandatory subjects: Maths, English, History mandatory till High School, 1 Science minimum, 1 foreign language minimum, 1 art minimum.
3) Maths has to be engineering undergrad level - students should have a complete understanding of Differentiation, Differential Calculus and have a conceptual understanding of Fourier at least.
4) History should be a 50/50 split of American History and World History. Students should have to do case studies on a single international historical event and a single American historical event with proper use of citation.
5) Arts should include Music, Film, Visual Art, Theatre and Shop.
6) A life skills class would be great - how to interpret the American insurance system, workers rights, tenant rights, CV building, basic home economics, acquiring Visa's for foreign travel.
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>>44814252
That would greatly improve things.
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>>44813522
>Let's improve something
>By making it worse

your system is doomed with people like you.
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>>44814350
>A life skills class would be great - how to interpret the American insurance system, workers rights, tenant rights, CV building, basic home economics, acquiring Visa's for foreign travel.
But educated citizens are bad for business. Teaching every young adult about the effects of crippling debt and several techniques to avoid it is bad for business.
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>>44814497
Social skills generally come naturally, and when schools teach the sort of 'social skills' which create an informal system where vapid cunts with an attitude problem can always have their way just by having an attitude problem, it would be better if they didn't teach social skills at all. Actual social skills conducive to a decent society, such as basic ettitquette, are good social skills to teach kids in first and second grade.
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>>44814609
>First and Second grade
>When kids don't fucking care about this shit

Next time you tell me, "lets teach me to work with wood and girls to cook" and think it's totally not fucking retarded.
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>>44813002
>m-f school
>maximum 4hrs a day
>intense 1 subject per day
>year end tests which determine if you continue or do the "semester" again
>no shuffling through dipshits
>school is not daycare
>take care of your kids or dont
>its beyond illogicial to have 8 hr or more school days
>i repeat THIS IS NOT DAYCARE
>school starts at 1pm and goes to 5
>no school lunch
>4 breaks after each hour
>get through and graduate or dont
>no age limit
>no ged


short and sweet

this is called get shit done

also school is year round, there is no summer break

with this plan there is no room for fucking around

you want to be a class clown then enjoy doing this same "semester" for a couple years while the rest of your peers progress

>boom
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Well, actually making students learn in order to progress would be a nice start. Students just get pushed through the system even if they don't know the curriculum. I work at a college and see people who don't know what a fraction is and people who can barely even write a complete sentence. There is literally no excuse for that kind of shit.
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>>44813613
>But muh school of the jihad
>But muh school of the white supremacy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su3JIS9VbtY
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>>44814529
Not just business subjects but maybe also STEM subjects. There could be some heavy corruption in a system which seems almost deliberately designed so that the dumb kids end up taking the science classes and not caring about them while they #YOLO, while the kids with higher IQs (who the naturally more #YOLO ones didn't like very much) end up being treated like there's something wrong with them. I guess there's some truth to the stereotype that the type to be workaholics end up having nervous breakdowns and turning into a shadow of their former selves, given enough stress.
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>>44814682
also core curriculum is math, chemistry, biology, english/grammar

history you can learn on your own

you can also go home and paint or play the piano idc
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>>44813546
The first step of becoming a redneck is having a lower intellegence level than everyone around you and just not giving a fuck. Then, to continue on your path, you must find others who share the same sentiment. Once you have a group together, you then should discuss important issues of the day, such as Ford vs. Chevy or whose truck can outpull the others', or most importantly, who got to fuck your cousin before you did and how you're gonna have to "Open up a six pack of whoop ass" on them. It is also important to hold antiquated beliefs about society such as hating interracial marriage due to the fact that "you don't see a red squirrel out there fucking a grey one." Also, you have to have some sort of eccentric habit such as drinking moonshine until you actually shit yourself, or chewing tobacco until you have no teeth left, then you must gum it. Once you have these things down, you must purchase a large truck with no real purpose except for muddin', a gun that is probably illegal but your neighbor, Bubba, was using it to scare his mother-in-law/aunt, and most importantly, you must have at least two sets of camouflaged outfits that have to be constantly dirty. After that, all you have to do is like NASCAR and Lynyrd Skynyrd and congratulations, you have become a redneck.
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>>44813002

As for the shit schools in bad neighborhoods:

This is a socioeconomic issue more than anything. Without parental buy-in to education not much can be changed. I didn't learn to read in school. My parents taught me. These schools will always be shit when so many come from shit families.

Onto the ones that can actually be saved:

Teach the metric system.

I remember reading several places that about 50% of jobs (or maybe salary dollars) are spent on non-teaching positions. This is just crazy. I can't even begin to imagine the layers upon layers of bureaucratic waste going on here. Cut this down to 30% for a start and shrink classroom sizes.

Some kind of earlier tract to study a trade like they do in parts of Europe (Germany?). Not everyone needs to read Shakespeare and learn to solve differential equations.

Make it easier to fire teachers that under-perform or have mailed it in after years on the job. Not for bulk firing to save money and hire cheap newgrads. Just a streamlined process to eliminate the truly shitty.

Separate ESL, autists, apsies and general trouble makers from the normal students.
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>>44814908
How Do Rednecks Fit In With Society as a Whole?
In short, they don't. However, they will often insist that they do and demand to be heard. Loud is the redneck way. The redneck philosophy is that progress is scary, and things presently suck. The only times that were good were "back in my daddy's days before this computer bullshit". They then spend their entire lives striving to live like that. Most rednecks shun technology (outside of television and AM radio of course) and say such hilarious things as "The computer will be the ruination of this world", and everyone's favorite, "If you let them queers get married, Jesus will come down and rain hellfire on your sinnin' asses". Rednecks also hate diversity of any sort. Anyone or anything that challenges their way of life should "get their asses whooped and go to Canada", or "tell it to my gun". Regular Americans feel the ripple of the redneck effect in daily life through the inspirational messages of Miley Cyrus, NASCAR interrupting their Saturday afternoon reruns and outdated movies, and seeing such noble characters as Larry the Cable Guy and Jeff Foxworthy on television constantly. How does it feel knowing Larry the fucking Cable Guy makes more money than you could ever hope to? Yeah, if that didn't suck already... Sarah Palin almost became vice president. What have you accomplished in your life?
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>>44814881
>history you can learn on your own
History is one of the most important subjects in the class! It teaches you ow how shitty life is in war and post war, how people used to survive with nothing and how creative they were.

Throwing away history is like throwing away social class, it serves no fucking purpose other than making children dumber.
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>>44813120
All of this.
All of it.
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>>44814930
Rednecks' Contributions to Society
As stated above, rednecks gave us the Blue Collar Comedy Tour, Sarah Palin, Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader (aka: The Jeopardy of Rednecks), and NASCAR. But what have rednecks done for society as a whole? Before you say nothing, think of the time you were at Wal-Mart and that guy in front of you smelt bad and was wearing dirty overalls. You thought to yourself how unpleasant he was and how you wish he could just get hit by a truck, his own truck you thought, as you grinned. But, also, do you remember how much better about yourself you felt after he found out his beer couldn't be covered by foodstamps? Well, that's what rednecks are for. We've all watched a Larry the Cable Guy moment and thought to ourselves, man, I'm so glad I'm not one of those people who enjoys this shit. That is the purpose of the redneck, to provide normal, everyday Americans with self-worth. You may be sitting all alone petting a cat that you force to sit on your lap as you look up internet porn knowing none of those women will ever love you, but you know in your heart that they would love you before they would love a redneck. So next time you see that man in line wanting to buy beer using only his word and a chicken for collateral, thank him for making sure you are not at the bottom of the social ladder.
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>>44813002
By getting rid of the federal education system. Preferred if the states would do the same, since local ed programs would be ideal.
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>>44813002
Get rid of the public system. The end.
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>>44813002
Privatize it.
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>>44814681
I myself was taught some ettiquette in first and second grade. It was some of the most useful social skills I ever learned in school. In the area where this was taught at those ages, I became the most respected kid in the class because I got good grades and liked to be helpful to the other students. When I moved away from there, I was in another little pocket of weird which wasn't that bad either, and then once I moved to Denver, the whole white guilt trip thing was the social agenda, and I refused to accept responsibility for things that happened before I was born. Then I moved to the suburbs of Boston, and they all hated me for being new and though I had tried to be reasonably sociable with them, and I eventually found myself repulsed with how openly sexual they all were and also with how promiscuous they all were. The whole idea that I should just be a human punching bag for everyone else to take their pitiful little problems out on was pretty much the social skills teachers wanted me to learn from third grade on. Of course, I was always in trouble for fighting back and winning when hit. However, what can be attributed to malice can often more easily be attributed to laziness. The school system is a bit different in different places. Also, there were good teachers and bad teachers everywhere, but the bad ones always seemed to outnumber the good ones. My grades slowly dropped over time because I became severely depressed and didn't do my schoolwork, and eventually, I just dropped out because I couldn't stand how far into hell things had gone anymore, and this much is my own actions. However, it was not a lack of intelligence that caused me to not do well at school.
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>but everything's just fine!
>the problem has to be only me, right everyone?

This may be part of why the nazis appealed so much to me.
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>tfw the social skills I learned in 1st and second grade have fallen into disuse in most places
>instead, the ability to hurl verbal abuse and profanity is held in high social regard

Also, anyone who tells their computer teacher to shoot himself in the foot is an ingrate who eventually needs to be told that by someone who learned much as a result of them. But I have too much respect for my elders to do such a thing.
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Have a mandatory session at the end of the day where volunteers / college mentors help students complete their daily assignments and homework.

Cut the number of classes each semester and focus on quality, not quantity.

Emphasize cause and effect understanding instead of relying on brute-force memorization. For example - instead of giving a list of spelling words for the student to memorize, briefly discuss where the word is derived from. Also, for maths focus more on understanding rather than number crunching.

Relate the material to real-life trades/jobs/careers and try to get students to find a genuine interest a particular subject early in life.

Don't push students through school...if at the end of the semester a student doesn't adequately understand a fundamental concept or skill (like reading, basic arithmetic, etc) have them retake it during summer or winter break and focus ONLY on the areas they are lacking.

Have a counselling session once a year where a licensed professional can get a feel for the student's interests and academic strengths and suggest future careers that involve these. Accept that college is not for everyone and explore the idea of trade/craft oriented careers.
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>>44813120
>www.basisscottsdale.org
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>>44813120
>2.)Abolish compulsory attendance

No.

Mandatory attendance is probably the one remaining consistent benefit of contemporary school if only because it keeps kids off the streets for 7 hours.

Having a free/cheap daycare that at least attempts to educate your kid is a tremendous benefit to society.
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>>44813002
Honestly? Let teachers beat the shit out of snot-nosed students who refuse to listen. I'm not talking a smack on the wrist, I'm talking beat the shit out them.

> Jamal, what's 25x6
> *sucks teeth*
> Jamal, did you do your HW last night?
> nah nigga, fuck HW and fuck you
> Teacher drags Jamal to another room by the ears...
> Sit Jamal in a chair
> Punch Jamal in the face...
> "What's 25x6?"
> Nigga you trippin!
> Punch him again... "what's 25x6?"
> repeat until he fucking gets it.
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>>44815928
If only teachers actually kept an orderly classroom, 14 would be a good age to make it noncompulsory. The way things actually are, though, most 14 year olds are so stupid they probably actually need to be babysitted just so that they don't commit crimes in the streets.
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>>44815687
> Emphasize cause and effect understanding instead of relying on brute-force memorization. For example - instead of giving a list of spelling words for the student to memorize, briefly discuss where the word is derived from. Also, for maths focus more on understanding rather than number crunching.

You generally have to do brute force memorization of basic facts before you can learn higher level concepts. The whole purpose of secondary education is to build those basic facts; college is for the higher understanding.
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>>44816155
>If only teachers actually kept an orderly classroom,

One teacher I had that stood out was this 50 year old Italian lady. She was brand new when my parents were in school. She was generally pleasant but ran a tight ship and demanded a certain level of manners - ie no hats, no chewing on gum, don't call out, etc. She was firm but consistent. If you fucked with her there would be hell to pay.

More teachers should be like that.
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>tfw 8th grade was when I pretty much lost all faith in humanity

The kids at the high school I went to acted pretty damn stupid. It was a public high school in the suburbs.
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Separate students based on learning style:

One class for visual learners, another class for hands-on learners, another class for rowdy/ADHD kids, one more for book worms.

Then, assign teachers to these classes based on their preferred style of instruction and develop activities and assignments tailored to each learning type.
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>>44813002
Instead of regular high school, high school should teach the trade or career you want to take. Who wants to learn math and history again? We learn that middle school already.
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>>44816207
College is for acquiring certification.

Primary School- practice sitting at a desk for 7 hours
College- practice actually performing tasks for 7 hours

A job can educate you in the required materials in 6 weeks, but it can't develop your work ethic.
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>>44813002
1. Change the Department of Education to an advisory or grant board....or abolish it.
2. Push US citizens to learn another language at the Elementary level.
3. Do not allow immigrant children into the normal school system until they pass an English proficiency test.
4. Disregard all parent complaint until the parents can pass a basic English proficiency test.
5. Remove Common Core and No Child Left Behind. Federal mandated educational standards kill actual education.
6. Remove any professor in college that does not embrace critical thinking.
7. Remove any business professor that does not embrace nationalism.
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>>44815710
Thanks for the link.

>>44815928
School isn't - well, it shouldn't be - there to babysit kids.
>>44816155
See above. If parents want to pay for a daycare for their 14 year old because they won't get their shit together for a school, let them look like the shit parental figure they are.
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Make schools smaller but have more of them.
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>>44816629
>School isn't - well, it shouldn't be - there to babysit kids.

Yes it is, and yes it should.

What is your reasoning to the contrary?
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>>44816283
I remember a good teacher I had in high school as well. One thing that probably worked in his favor is he taught a subject which I was interested in. Secondly, since the subject was noncompulsory, he was able to keep his class orderly by sending out anyone who was being a delinquent. Nobody acted stupid in that class. However, I started the class somewhere between 4 and 6 weeks late, and never caught up on the homework, so flunked the class. The teacher of that class was very helpful to me, and did all he could to help me catch up, but it simply wasn't possible starting the class so late, and having to deal with the stress of, basically probation from truancy the year before, when I had skipped the last month or so. I was also on an IEP and in a special program for kids who had been labeled as delinquents (different from regular special ed in that it was morelike a real life cromartie for the delinquents not quite bad enough to send to alternative school, and not dumb enough for regular special ed), but there was a lot of bullshit going on in regards to that (I was pretty much the most delinquent student there). I was scheduled to retake the class I liked the next year, the teacher was alright with it, but the head of the program for delinquents changed my schedule around on me over the summer, lied to me that the class was cancelled and nobody would be taking it, and then, when I confronted her about it and asked if it's because I'm a demon from hell who would do nothing good with computers, she did not pick up on my sarcasm and responded with a 'yes' answer. Instead of arguing with her, which I saw as impossible when she was more concerned with thinking up new ways to ruin my life, I dropped out to study and get her and some other toxic people out of my life.
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>>44816629
Shitty parenting at home actually contributes a lot to the mess at school, and that's of course, not anyone at school's fault if someone's parents aren't doing a good job of raising them. It's a societal problem if most of the kids are doing their best to emulate the media at school.
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>>44816732
School's primary purpose should be to educate. If you want to sit around and do jack shit 7 hours a day, the taxpayer shouldn't have to buy you a place to go do it.

/Pol/ argues about the stupidity of the average person and how it screws everyone over; that's partly because the educational system your average american is legally forced to go to is shit-tier.
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>>44816912
And those kids shouldn't be wasting the school's time. If the parents do a shitty job raising their children, they should be the ones to deal with their kid's buffoonery all day. Though, I'm also for against welfare.
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>>44816912

This is the basis of failure in the American system. My gf volunteers in a first grade class and 1/4 of the kids have "family issues" which prevent them from being emotionally stable enough to concentrate on schoolwork. The other 1/2 can't regulate themselves enough to keep themselves from talking too loud or socializing when the teacher is trying to teach something - and you have to believe that this is their home environment transferred into the classroom. The remaining 1/4 are pretty good students because their parents aren't trash and actually read to them at night.
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>>44816938
I'm having difficulty feeling much emotion right now, but this always made me angry. It is actually bad for society that the education system is a wreck, but this doesn't get talked about much, and there's a surprising amount of denial regarding the fact there's even anything wrong with it. Of course, discussion of politics is usually like this in America: People ignore what's happening around them while they obsess over things that are happening thousands of miles away.
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>>44813002
The History of Usury is a required course
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>>44816938
>If you want to sit around and do jack shit 7 hours a day, the taxpayer shouldn't have to buy you a place to go do it.


Yes they should, because having a place to safely sit around doing jack shit (ie not fucking around committing crimes or getting molested) is a service to society, and thus society pays the bills for it.
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>>44813002

Easy. Kids that aren't interested in learning get kicked out. They can come back 1 time the next year and try again.

The whole problem with school is the shitty kids get to bring down everyone and nothing can be done about it.
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>>44817093
You're wrong as shit bro.

Nearly every adult american understands the lackluster quality of public education in the Us. The issue is no one knows how to fix it, and the ones that think they do are usually wrong, and the one's that might not be wrong have to fight a battle on both sides from the people who want to do things their way, and the ones who are unwilling to change.
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>>44817139
That's the parents' duty, not society's.
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>>44813002
Get rid of the Department of Education and return all education prerogative to the states.
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>>44813002
First step is to start calling it what it is: Children's day prison. We have an element of society that can't take care of itself and is extremely dangerous to allow to freely roam the streets unsupervised. We keep them and society safe by locking their asses up for 6-8 hours a day. The "education" part is mostly lip service.

The only way to improve public schools is with more walls, more bars, or more guards. If your kid is worth a damn, they should be able to get into private school and get funding to do so.
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I have a theory I will write an essay on but I can try to sum it up:

I believe school is less about learning the subject matter and more on learning how to be unquestionably obedient to a higher authority.
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>>44817260
The parents duty is to go to work to provide for their family you fucking retard.

If a family is able to support itself on a single income then one parent can stay home with the kid. For everyone else there's mastercard.
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>>44816629
no prob man. the shame is that whites are a minority there.
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>>44817047
Yeah, in first grade and second grade, my grandparents also taught me ettiquette, and actually put some effort into raising me. School reinforced what I learned at home. My divorced baby boomer parents were either abusive (my mother was emotionally and physically abusive to me when I was 7 years old), or couldn't always be at home (I was sent home often in 3rd grade, even though I didn't start fights, and, my dad had to switch to night shift, so, I was pretty much a latchkey kid from then on, with video games, cartoons (the best of which turned out to be anime), and eventually computers to entertain myself, though I moved a few more times between living with my dad, my mom, or grandparents, and eventually ended up staying with my dad). I was, of course, literate by 3rd grade. In fact, I was literate by the end of 1st grade. My mom did not do much for me in kindergarten, so I had to learn basic arithmetic and how to read in 1st grade. My dad fought in Vietnam, but did better than my mom at raising me. My mom was a hippie and got off drugs for a while before relapsing sometime in the early 90s.

>tfw four decent grandparents, and my parents represent the baby boomers quite well
>and there's a lot of suffering left unmentioned here, because I don't mean to whine

If society is in a downhill spiral, the lives of the least fortunate members of society can reflect how things will more commonly be for future generations. I would not wish the hell that my childhood sometimes was upon anyone, but there might be more of this sort of crap later.
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>>44817417
>tfw it's becoming worldwide
>tfw Hong Kong
http://basisschools.org
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>>44814350
>workers rights, tenant rights
uh oh, don't let the southerners hear you.
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>>44814908

Can you shut the fuck up, you smelly, slant-eyed chink?
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>>44817047

This so much.

It doesnt really matter what education system you have, or what curriculum is taught. In the end it comes down to whether the teacher can teach.

If you have a lot of kids simply ignoring the teacher and yakking away then nothing is going to work.

Like the anon said this is 99% of the time caused by bad parenting.

If you want to improve any education anywhere you must first ask "why has parenting got so bad"?

Imho there is several causes. One is this: Both parents have to work. Furthermore they have to work shitty hours, ie evening and night shifts. Thank the erosion of Union power and consumerism for that.
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Segregate the races into different schools.
Abolish the female-centric system of education immediately, allow public boys and girls schools.
Trade programs in high school. A trades class is mandatory until Grade 11.
Privatize the sports teams.
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>>44817716
>Privatize the sports teams.

How about eliminate the sports teams.

If schools focused as much on education as they do on sports we'd be having this thread in space.
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No realistic solution exists as long as niggers exist. They simply cannot into academics, no matter how you structure the programs
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>>44817578
The south does have some redeeming qualities, you know. However, I understand that even if America is all one country, to many people, the south is almost like some horrible othernation that people derive pride from hating. I guess it depends on where one is in the south if it's pleasant or not. Some of it is nice. Some of it isn't. I haven't seen much of it and wouldn't go back to it.
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>>44817810
This very much.
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>>44817411
Wait, what?

>Parent's duty to is to crap out kids and feed 'em
>Fuck raising them, though.

It's that type of shit that's putting us in the situation we're in. If you can't work /and/ have the time/resources to raise your kid, don't fucking have kids.
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>>44817346
Education's too important to place a financial barrier on it entirely, though; it should be available to all those able and willing. Otherwise you'll see private schools become gradually more expensive until the rich /pol/ complains about have a monopoly on education.
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>>44817396
Look up "Signaling" as an economic concept. School is mostly that.
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Easy, delete it.
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>>44817844
America would probably be much less of a wreck if there never was slavery in this country, but it's not entirely the south's fault that slavery came into existance. It started as indentured servitude from the fees people paid to take the boat over here, and then things slowly changed so that black people were owned as slaves. The roots of the entire system that was replaced by slavery could really be said to be something that was brought over from Europe. I always felt strongly about the american revolution, but the civil war seems like something that should have never happened, along with everything that lead up to it. I might be an optimist, but my perception has been that conceptually, America was a good idea for a nation that got off to a bad start and never quite did recover. This nation would have probably had much more social cohesion without all the social issues that pertain to black people and how they got here, but that's of course not the entire causation of, or even the main causation of why it's ruined.
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>>44814799
This is the United States of America damnit, why isn't there a school of jihad in the same neighborhood as the school of white supremacy?
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>>44818516
Because the Municipal Department of Religious Diversification in Education put them there.
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