https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV7CanyzhZg
Your thoughts on this?
>>43264153
Women confirmed for breakfast
>This machine kills fascists
What a fag.
>>43264153
>ITT: American historian being butthurt about Eurocentrism through history.
>>43264153
top cuck
>>43264424
You clearly do not know what that phrase is relating to
Lefty Revisionist
>>43264455
>implying I'm not calling him a fag for exactly what it's related to
I would be very surprised if this guy has never taken it up the ass
HEY ME FROM THE PAST YOU ARE A FAG AND IM A FAG LOL LETS CHECK OUT THE MYSTERY BOX. ITS A DILDO BETTER SHOVE IT UP MY ASS>
ALSO HERE IS MY EXTREMELY LIBERAL VIEW OF HISTORY. DAE THINK MUSLIMS ARE GREAT AND HAITIANS ARE GREAT AND AMERICANS ARE EVIL?
>dat false equivalency in OP's pic
>>43264153
What the fuck with this "fuck europe" attitude
Is it some kind of SJW cuck thing ? Like fuck europe and the western world ?
>>43264513
> implying facism is not slavery
wow hitler will save u hurrah fucking nigger
https://youtu.be/5A_o-nU5s2U?t=11m25s
You guys are gonna love this
>>43264994
Fucking 4chan embedding. Start it at 11:25 for what I mean
>>43264879
Check out these slaves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SiWi6NLA6E
cuck faggot. People lived until 60 or more in the middle ages, lived good lives and protip: History is eurocentric because europe wrote all the books and important writing down. Fuck john green the fucking faggot cuck faggot. He thinks he knows anything about the middle ages.
>>43264994
>>43265015
They were literally better off as slaves.
>>43264849
These supposed 'academics' are their blissfully unaware nature is the running joke.
They speak European language, bask in the comforts of European progress, and then harp on about how European history is too European, and this somehow makes them progressive.
Again, they are the joke, and them not knowing is the punchline
>>43264153
This guy is probably the biggest idiot on YT.
No exaggeration.
>>43264849
SJWs hate everything Western.
I don't understand what the problem is though - the "Dark Ages" are only ever mentioned in the context of Western European history.
Complaining about how the "Dark Ages" don't take into account the Umayyad Caliphate is as silly as bitching that the "Song Dynasty" is Sinocentric BECAUSE WHAT ABOUT THE HOUSE OF ANGEVIN IN ENGLAND SHITLORD?
>>43264153
False equivalence.
>>43264438
only leftist faggots complain about that
european history is awesome
>>43265050
The reason that the average life expectancy is like 30 is because of infant mortality. It was common for children to die and for people to live long. Fucking idiots take this and run with it and think "o wow ppl livd until 30 and dropped dead in middle ages good thing I live now"
He's a fucking kike AND a cuck so its not surprising
>>43264846
It makes me unreasonably angry. He's supposed to be a clever guy, couldn't he have come up with a slightly less retarded comparison?
>>43264879
If you are working and not rich you're a slave. Modern serfdom ya dumb troll cunt.
>>43264849
How the fuck are you not aware of this attitude? It literally pervades all of the European leftist political movements.
>>43264454
literally this.
/thread
>>43265044
>walking down the street to go to work
>going to the beach
>swimming at the public pool
Wow, it's like a White community in the US only with lots of swastikas!
The only difference is that it's curtains if you disagree with the all mighty leader.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_of_the_Long_Knives
>>43265329
>The only difference is that it's curtains if you disagree with the all mighty leader.
What was there to disagree with?
>>43265383
>I believe in a one party state that kills any and all opposition
Contrary to popular belief Fascism and Communism are quite similar. Benito Mussolini's father, who he got most of his political ideas from, was a Marxist after all.
If your wife had multiple sexual partners before you, you're a mediocre faggot failure who settled for garbage.
>>43265555
>Fascism and Communism are quite similar
Yeah, not really. Nice quads doe.
>>43265266
No. Because he subconsciously wants a woman that makes him feel special, and knows very well it matters how much dick / pussy a partner has got, but at the same time he wants to take the le feminist gentleman position.
This results in a false equivalence that he very will knows is bullshit, but chooses to believe because pussy.
Well, here's the thing:
You aren't going to give your cereal grainaids or Cereal papillomavirus.
Also, it doesn't have emotions or intelligence, so you're tooth raping it.
>>43265113
Yeah that is the fucking worst. He is like i'm gonna name my video "dark ages" and then switch of subject at the 10 minute mark to show that european had it worst than the rest of the world. I'm an activist
I mean that bastard barely touched the subject
> they are dark ages
> but not really people grew old
Yeah cool. How about they fucking kept alive the heritage of the roman and the greek.
> they had no sewage
Of course they weren't organize in big city but they were still very clean. Its the degenerate renaissance who brought up dirty people. Torture as well. Torture was rarely if not never practiced during the medieval time
>>43265316
Yeah but i always heard it from american about american history. When i was in school we just studied western history from antiquity to the cold war
We just talked about the golden arab age during one semester in one year i think to please the lefties
He is tumblrfag's crush, so he does need to watch himself, else he incur the wrath of legbeards.
>>43265109
Just pay up, please
>>43266512
>legbeards
>>43264153
I read three of his books. I like the way he writes, granted, he writes books that aim to be bought by teenaged girls, but besides that, he's a good author.
Moving from there, I can say that I more or less like the guy. When I first saw this channel, I was intrigued. I like history, I like John Green, what can go wrong?
Well, the subjects he chooses are interesting. The stuff he says are intelligent.
The way he makes the videos though? I think they are a bit cringeworthy. Seriously, would have been much better without all the try-hard stuff that's amusing only for five year olds.
If I should comment on THIS video specifically, I think its a well thought out and well presented argument but I cant say I agree.
>>43266423
>Yeah that is the fucking worst. He is like i'm gonna name my video "dark ages" and then switch of subject at the 10 minute mark to show that european had it worst than the rest of the world.
That is the point. It is called the Dark Ages for the reasons that Europe had it worst, but few people care to consider beyond the fact that other places in the world were experiencing immense growth. We forget about this period in history because Europe did nothing, and the guy is enlightening people that "Dark Ages" is only the European perspective.
The guy is still blatantly a fag ("hurr hurr Eurocentricism"), but he is, as an educator, addressing the concern that history is too eurocentric in a time when globalization is standard.
>>43264153
John Green belongs in a garbage can.
/lit/ reporting
John Green and his fans are the most unbearable people to exist. His fans think he's a modern-day Dostoyevsky and if that shitstain were being honest he'd probably agree with them. I hope he gets shot, and if I ever get famous enough to meet him I swear on my life I'm going to punch him in the face.
>>43264153
Does this mean that Japan were the niggers of the East back in the Dark Ages?
Oh, and yes, I hate the "So when a man has sex he's cool but when a woman does she's a whore?" cliche as much as you do. Retarded bitches keep whining about what people think of them.
However, I honestly wouldnt like to settle down before I at least tasted more than three chicks. AT LEAST. Why should it be different for women?
I mean, of course, a woman who has had 48 dicks in her is just awful, but thats an exaggeration. A one digit number is probably acceptable though. In my opinion anyways.
You know, in Turkey we have this poet/author who is wildly popular amongst the pseudo-intellectuals and the teenaged girls, Cemal Süreyya. He died in 1990 so he isnt really SJW, but he has this one line that everyone keep quoting and its so annoying. I'll translate it for you. But before that theres something you need to know to understand. In Turkey, if you're a man and you lose your virginity, you become "milli" (Literally "national". I dont know why we use that term.) So becoming "milli" is losing your virginity. Keep that in mind. And also, we have two gender specific words for virgin so this makes more sense in Turkish.
So the quote goes "A virgin and a virgin had sex. They called the man "milli", and the woman a whore."
I mean yeah, in Turkish it rhymes and shit but come the fuck on. I keep seeing that EVERYWHERE, and as far as I know it's not even certain that Cemal Süreyya actually wrote that somewhere. Its probably a false credit to him, but everyone is deifying him and posting that quote everywhere, I just want to strangle Turkish litterature from the twentieth century onwards.
>>43264153
>denying europe as a continent
what a retard
>do you really think it matters if other people are sleeping with your wife?
>no! and it particularly bothers me that large black men aren't allowed to sleep with other people's wives
>if I were to eat Cheerios for breakfast, would it matter if 48 muscular negroids ejaculated into that cereal box earlier?
>well screw you! I can't enjoy that whole grain crunch unless it's saturated with another man's cum
Nobody wants to buy used, people who do that do it only because they can't afford it new.
>>43268219
So I guess you're saving yourself for the woman you'll get married to somewhere in the bleak, distant future?
>>43264153
>Comparing cockgobbling to cereal.
Confirmed for cuck
>>43268311
Buy, not sell.
Retard.
May I ask, who in the fuck actually watches these sorts of channels? Is it purely so you can repost his videos and get girl-cred vicariously?
>>43264153
Would you drink a can of Goca™ Gola™ is someone has already opened it and put their dick in it?
![darkages[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/ndtUSaM.gif "darkages[1].gif")
THEN HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THIS CHART?
>>43268691
Tumblrinas who think John Green is so CAYOOT~!
>>43268985
Not that I disagree, but how do you "measure" scientific advancement?
>>43268985
Also:
>dark ages were equal to the egyptians in terms of "scientific advancement"
>>43268998
>>43269142
Please stop posting Nonon, she makes my penis hard.
>>43269028
>The period saw a continuation of trends begun during late classical antiquity, including population decline, especially in urban centres, a decline of trade, and increased immigration. The period has been labelled the "Dark Ages", a characterization highlighting the relative scarcity of literary and cultural output from this time, especially in Northwestern Europe. However, the Eastern Roman Empire, or Byzantine Empire, continued to survive, and in the 7th century the Islamic caliphates conquered swaths of formerly Roman territory.[1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Middle_Ages
>>43264153
>Interwebs historian complains that the European Dark Ages shouldnt be called the European Dark Ages
Sure is a good thing that historians dont call that period the Dark Ages, then. This is contrived controversy over fake Eurocentrism. The term "dark ages" only comes up in much older texts, and even then only in reference to the decentralized former western Roman empire. Everybody knows that the Islamic Golden Age was great.
>>43264153
Cuck Course
>>43268614
ayyyy
>>43269168
I can dump rule 34 over on /b/ if you want.
>>43269542
Nono, I need you to stop!
I can't afford to get an erection right now.
>>43267594
> at least three women
> three
> 48 sexual partners = just awful
> 48 is an exaggeration
the asian is ULTRASTRONG in this one
>the dark ages weren't that bad until the plague came in the 14th century
>14th century
>dark ages
and this guy calls himself a historian
>>43264513
Antifascism was invented by communists at the same time they were enslaving kulaks in the gulags.
>>43268985
didnt that get debunked?
since there's no evidence of the church oppressing scientists
>>43264153
This guy is the world's largest faggot. His books are nigger tier
>>43269591
>>/b/607341865
have fun
>>43269372
>muh islamic golden age
>>43269732
Please, it's just a waste of your time! I can't look at this!
>>43269756
Wasn't the top building built in a couple years and the bottom took over 500 years to build.
John Green has an interesting presentation personality.
You can tell he's definitely a bit of a faggot high on his own success IRL though.
>Pretexting his World History videos with the fact his movie adaptation of his children's novel is coming out soon
>Cookie cutter history lessons that don't offer a balanced perspective. e.g. Hitler is bad.
>His brother is honestly more of an intolerable faggot than he is.
>Every vlog is pretty much detailing how busy his life is.
>Still has time to make vlogs pampering his own ego on a regular basis.
I regret even wasting minutes on this person's vlog channel. Beyond his ego and a few minor things, the Crash Course stuff is actually fairly entertaining.
>>43269756
Personally, the bottom one looks cooler, you can tell a lot of work when into that.
>>43269793
Resistance is futile
>>43269621
I thought the cut-off was generally considered luther?
Or was that for the middle ages?
>>43269899
His brother makes good science videos but their blog stuff is cultural marxist tier.
>>43269908
that's really the point, while Europe was in its Dark Ages it was still able to make beautiful structures
>>43269953
Dark Ages: 500-1000
High Middle Ages: 1000-1300
Late Middle Ages: 1300-1500
at least around those numbers
>>43269303
Are we repeating history?
>Muslim philosophers translated the Greek works.
Nope, Syrian Christians did that for them. And the Muslims weren't at all interested in much of it apart from the bits and pieces they could use.
Also he completely glosses over Feudalism like it was nothing. It is hard to call Medieval Kings "monarchs" (to rule as one) because vassalage does not have the same connotations then as what it does now. The relationship between lords and their vassals was not at all one sided. It was a relationship to work between them and this would grow into the more modern day concepts of liberty we have today. True, only around 20% of the population could be considered as political actors (from lords, knights and clergy) but often they would require support to do certain things. Lords couldn't always arbitarily dismiss someone without the support of a great number of vassals. We have LOTS of evidence of the agreements between Lords and their vassals.
He also loves to keep saying EUROPE SUCKS, let's MOVE ON FROM EUROPE. Why doesn't he mention the thousands of people that were enslaved by Islam? Also: why do we learn about Europe? Context to us and our civilisation. He could easily talk about the rest of the world without having to resort to EUROPE STINKS.
He glosses over things talking about religious superstitions etc and does the very modern thing of completely dismissing Medieval advances in a number of fields (the Renaissance happened for a reason and didn't magically come out of a vacuum, things are built and exist on top of each other).
This is all very basic stuff and proves they know little about what they are talking about.
>>43268691
>tfw taking european history course and teacher shows this guys videos all the time
How the hell do I even fix this?
>>43269303
Is there any proof that Christianity caused that, though?
If you look closely, the Roman Empire was already collapsing (see the Crisis of the 3d Century) and Greek science was already declining (pic related) even before Christianity became a thing. It's notorious that the one country that "escaped" the Dark Ages was Ireland, which was never part of the Roman Empire so their first contact with civilization was through Christianity. During the period of the early Middle Ages, Irish monks contributed to save Greco-Roman civilization.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dicuil
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dungal_of_Bobbio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johannes_Scotus_Eriugena
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vergilius_of_Salzburg
>>43270039
>And I've proven this using no sources whatsoever.
>>43267104
If you liked the fault in our stars please kill yourself
>>43270018
Yes it's a cycle that repeats itself. The Roman Empire and Islamic Caliphates went through the same degeneracy that the US is going through.
>pic related
>>43269667
Christians burning down the library of Alexandria because of MUH IMAGINARY FRIEND!!!! actually happened.
>>43269826
You're probably thinking about the Cathedral of Duomo in Milan, which was begun in the 1300s and officially completed in the 1960s. Pic related is Notre Dame Cathedral, which took about 200 years.
>>43270039
You can be a racist if you want to, but denying actual history like the Islamic Golden Age because it contradicts your fragile world view is what niggers do(we was da egypshuns)
>>43268985
The term Dark Ages refers to a few points in historiography. What you need to understand is historians and commentators CHANGE HOW WE PERCEIVE history.A minor example to generalise: Whig historians of 19th century Britain saw history as progressive, as things becoming better why? They lived in a time when Britain was dominant so looked back WITH THIS narrative. Where as historians around the First World War had a much darker view on how things were progressing. Present effects the time.
What is the historiography of the Dark Ages? Why is it "Dark"? Firstly Petrarch's dislike of Late Antiquity because of his times love of Classic Antiquity (much of it being well preserved by Monks etc).
Secondly the lack of substantial written evidence. We can see how our picture of say Anglo-Saxon England looks dark because of relatively few sources (e.g. Historia ecclesiastica gentis Anglorum by Saint Bede).
But more modern connotations have declared it as being Dark because of society becoming seemingly backward. Was it truly backward?
Most of our views are dominated by Enlightement thinkers who look back on the period as being a perceived time of backwardness. How historians view the past has an intrinsic effect on what we see.
Ultimately we can see a cycle here where new civilisations took over from older ones. Trade routes to the east and a number of things took time to be effected (there are Frankish records showing the importation of things like Papyrus even after Islamic conquests).
>>43264153
> Enjoy eating Lucky Charms
> Eat two bowls of Lucky Charms every morning, another in the evening, maybe one more before bed
> Do this for most of my teens and 20's
> Suddenly the diabeetus
> Doctor's orders, no more sugary cereals, body is not what it used to be anymore
> Sadly watch younger people eating Lucky Charms while I eat generic sugar-free bran flakes
> Generic sugar-free bran-flakes manufacturer asks why I only eat one bowl at a time, and only once a week, and skip breakfast so often
> "Don't you love breakfast cereal Anon?"
> Insist "Of course I love breakfast cereal!"
> Generic sugar-free bran flakes manufacturer is convinced. "I'm glad, anon. You know, you don't need breakfast every day, because you can have our breakfast every day for the rest of your life."
> Generic sugar-free bran flakes manufacturer must never discover my inner sadness at lost Lucky Charms
>>43270389
That was the muslims and Coptics faggot.
>>43270114
I never said Christianity caused that, you did. I'm saying why that region in that period is often refereed to as the Dark Ages due to a low scientific advancements.
>>43270449
I never denied an Islamic Golden Age.Learn to read. All I said was: the majority of Greek works were translated by Syrian Christians. This does not mean I deny all the Islamic advances.
Seriously, what the fuck man? Don't strawman me.
>>43270449
Please, what grand and massive contributions did Muslim philosophers grant to society? I don't recall the Mohammadeans doing much of anything spectacular. They helped, more than most, sure, but so did many others.
And denying the significance of an age != taking credit for something you didn't do
>>43270584
These numbers I'm quoting to call you a faggot.
>>43270016
Ah thanks.
Are there any events that lead to this segmentation or is it just creating a historical narrative?
Is the end of the dark ages the beginning of the Gregorian reforms?
>>43270388
I came to this very same notion myself -- so it's interesting to know I'm not the only one.
>>43270584
Let me Google that for you.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age
>>43264153
>that image
Terrible analogy
>>43265098
good stuff
>>43265139
European history is alright, but most schools focus on Western European history and English history to an even greater extent.
There is so much crazy and interesting stuff that went on elsewhere, particularly China, India, Central/South America, Rus, etc that is ignored or glossed over.
Even the stuff we do get is western European-centric. For instance when we learn about Central/South America we learn about how the evul white man killed all the innocent tree hugging Aztecs and Maya. We don't learn about them sacrificing babies and rolling people's heads down the pyramids and slaughtering each other in wars. Might give a little context to the liberals that hate white people so much.
>>43270728
The word is called Cucklogy
>>43264153
Did he really shit on European cathedrals?
>>43270389
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_the_Library_of_Alexandria
I'm not convinced based on the wiki entry.
>>43270311
I did not. I liked Seeking for Alabama and Cardboard Cities though.
>>43270389
Actually, there are zero sources saying Christians burned the library of Alexandria. Even Eunapis, a historian very hostile to Christianity, didn't mention it.
>>43270240
Google is our friend. People have a crude understandng of history.Was it Dark?
>Imperially funded education at Constantinople and in other eastern cities like Alexandria happened until conquests. The Empire rebuilt this in the 860s in a period of recovery.
I recommend reading the Byzantine history work by John Julius Norwich.
>The Christian workers in Latin Christendom and the East continued to write down works.
See things like Irish Monks (and many Western Monks) or the Nestorian schools in the east.
In fact the Nestroian Scholars at Baghad speaking Syriac and Arabic translated the works of the Greeks.
If you look at developments in the around 1000 there is high growths in productivity. (Generalised history sees mass peaks and troughs and not the nuances - e.g. look at how many economic recessions there has been and how many you just know about off the top of your head.)
>>43270861
>Nestroian Scholars at Baghad
If you want direct information about that I suggest you read:
Islamic Science and Engineering by Donald Hill.
>>43264153
I like him. He makes history fun to learn, or in my case, to recap.
>TFW filthy euroshits destroyed this
>>43271080
Wow, if that is your Major Temple, I really cant imagine what the minor ones are like.
That shouldnt be the summit of a civilization, really. The Egyptians trumped you by far.
>>43265044
>You will never live in a totally white community/country
>>43265044
lol they were ruled by a megalomaniac
>>43271080
Yeah, its really a shame there are no monuments to the slave empire and human sacrifices.
Oh wait.
>>43265915
Exactly, every guy knows damn well if we were to marry a woman we want her to be as virginal as humanly possible.
No hymen, no diamond.
>>43270476
A "Dark age" technically means an age where written records were lost, hence we dont know what hapoened, it becomes "dark" to us.
While language changes, this is ultimately a valid arguement for prescriptivist language. People using the term "dark age" to mean a lack of scientific advancement are clouding our understanding of history. It is an ignorant statement to make, regardless of linguistic relativist arguememts.
For over a hundred years historians have been saying that the "dark ages" did not exist, because we have written records of the English kingdoms, viking sagas, franks, angles and Saxons, etc. Visigoth Spain is provably the one true european dark age during this time because Islamic invaders destroyed their written records.
You can see how the "dark age" argument advanced over time. First by the catholic church themselves, insisting that their monks studiously retained the classics while secular leaders ran illiterate, the Greeks bringing their knowledge to the west after the destruction of Constantinople, the protestants blaming the church for hiding these works from the public, the enlightenment blaming all religions for encouraging dogmas over scientific pursuit, a brief period of rationality up until ww2 followed by the latest round of pseudo historians like John Greene in their hatred for all things white people now proclaiming the Muslims responsible for bringing knowledge back to Europe.
They are wrong just like all the others were wrong before them for the simple fact that European dark ages didn't exist. It scares that this video got 2 million views.
>>43265109
Pay what you owe us. THEN you can hang out on 4chan
>>43265109
A little debt reminder
>>43264153
>Said calling Alexander the Great "the Great" was misogyny
I hope he burns in hell
>>43270775
>European history is alright, but most schools focus on Western European history and English history to an even greater extent.
The West has the most rounded history of any region. Asian schools study asian history to such an extent they think Hitler was a cool guy with cool uniforms and are amazed when somebody tells them about all the people killed. More books are translated into Finnish in a single year than all the books translated into Arabic in the last century.
>>43264153
>not realizing there's biological reason why women who are sluts are seen as unwanted
it doesn't take much to realize that men naturally don't want sluts
>>43265329
And democracy and capitalism are what's killing those white communities. A country driven entirely by the financial bottom line.
>>43265655
>Not similar
>Gulags/Concentration camps
>one party system
>one leader system
>secret police, (NKVD/Gestapo/SD)
>all dissidents immediately killed
In both ways Hitler's German and Stalin's Russia are almost on a par with each other.
The idea of a dark ages is pretty much dead amongst actual professional historians on the period. This guy is a hack, don't waste your time, unless you like the cracks I guess.
Why does /pol/ engage in such historical revisionism?
>>43264153
He's just another whipped, beta mangina
>>43265109
Debts Collector is waiting..
>>43268985
and what do we have to show for it? a polluted overpopulated shit hole full of warfare and lunacy... Thanks I'll take my monk's cell on Iona over this shit any day
>>43264153
He has a lot of money but still pretends to be an amateur Youtuber
>>43265632
This. Only faggot races like whites date women that got fugged by someone else.
>>43270476
>>43271501
enlightment the GOAT tho
industrial revolution close second
>>43265098
Calling them Christian Dark Ages is fair just like calling them the Islamic Golden Age is fair.
Neither was caused by the associated religion, however.
>Islamic golden age
>>43270485
10/10 Post
>>43265109
>Greece always says what I think
>no discussion
>only "pay debts"
>>43265266
> clever guy
4u
>>43265109
You shouldn't really be posting, when there are debts to pay..
>>43265109
Debts
>>43268985
> scientific advancement can be quantified
>>43269663
cute buzzwords huehue but the collaborationaist kulak scum was liquidated... liquidated class enemies don't get to go to "le gulagz"
>>43265109
As you can see, my colleagues have been very clear to you that there are debts that need to be paid.
To avoid beating a dead horse here, let me offer you a scenario:
1. Greece doesn't pay debt, and the EU plummets into chaos and mass rape.
2. Greece pays debt and I don't have to break your fucking legs.
3. Greece doesn't pay debt and you get to crawl to a hospital to pay for a wheelchair you can't afford.
The choice is yours. It really didn't have to come to this, if you had just paid debts
>>43269756
> under construction
> from the dark ages
>>43270775
Historical context is anathema to leftism.
>>43264438
>>43265139
I think you both like using the term Eurocentric, but I don't think you actually know what that means.
Eurocentric basically implies that the whole of history is focused on Europe. As in, anything that is anything going on, is in Europe. When Europe is in the dark ages, the whole world is in the dark ages. When something critical happens in a time period, its always in Europe or happening by Europeans. Its coined for how world history tends to be taught from a solely European perspective.
Is it a important piece? Yes, but its not the only one either. Europe isn't the center of the universe and neither should we bow to the whiny people who question us actually wanting to teach/learn of other peoples than Europeans.
>>43265109
pay denbts
>>43264153
That's probably his most infuriating video. The entire thing is slobbering over how great and progressive Islam was and how backwards Europe was while ignoring the Carolingian Renaissance as well as ignoring that aside from Baghdad and al-Andalus (which were only as great as they were due to being "crossroads" type areas; Pope Sylvester II brought the abacus back to Europe from his time in al-Andalus) the muslim world was constantly in civil war due to factional fighting, that the Abassids only had real power for maybe a century or so, etc. and that the Dark Ages were also probably the height of the Byzantine Empire's power as it was able to consolidate itself and emerge stronger than it'd ever been under the Isaurians and Macedonians.
And during this time of Byzantine and Carolingian greatness, the Abbasids, founded in 750, had pretty much already started fracturing by the end of the 8th century and by the end of the 9th they basically controlled Baghdad/Mesopotamia and nowhere else.
>>43265109
I am posting on /pol/ on behalf of the EU Greek Surveillance Authority.
As you know, your country has outstanding debts that need to be paid.
The EU, with the help of its many beneficiaries, is proud to take new measures to remind and encourage Greeks to restore faith and security in the Euro.
>>43265109
Agreed. The only thing worse os people who don't pay denbts.
>>43268985
>>43264153
>I hate europe (despite the fact that I'm clearly of european descent and speak a european language)
>dark ages are eurocentric.
the term was made by europeans.
>Now lets talk about how great the arabs are
>arabs are the best
>arabs are the best
>arabs are the best
I got to about 7:00
What a fag.
>>43268985
Come on.
>>43268985
Are you even trying?
>>43265109
I agree with you and I'd like to voice my agreement, but according to reddit-tier newfags I have tp just keep my mouth shut and regurgitate a tired old meme about your flag that every other reply by reddit-tier newfags are also repeating, so the reddit-tier newfags can affirm me and I can feel accepted in this anonymous Siberian sewing imageboard. Of course there is no possibility in reality that you are speaking for your entire country or will somehow resolve its debt crisis entirely just because some semi-anonymous poster on 4chan told you to "pay denbts", but they keep repeating it anyway, even though they know it's useless, because they like to feel important and pretend they're doing important things. Pretty pathetic, wouldn't you say?
>>43268985
See this is why we shouldn't focus on eurocentric history teaching. This graph is such bullshit and debunked and focuses mostly on the European area, ignoring the much better situations in China and the Middle East.
>>43271382
>Slave empire and human sacrifices
>Which can be argued to be what many European empires were.
>Yet somehow one is better than the other.
>>43264153
Crash Course World History is actually a pretty good way to get a basic overview of world history. . . it's just a shame that the overview you get is heavily slanted to the left. John Green is an engaging guy and a good presenter.
>>43279124
>Heavily slanted to the left
I dunno, I perfer to think that it maybe slightly at the left, but most of what he mentions checks out. After all, he got to the crusades and instead of going with the "ALl religions are evil" thing that tends to be associated with the left he actually pointed out that a small reading of history is rarely sufficient to understanding it.
After all, its a show and he likely has to axe alot of stuff.
>>43265109
Pay debts plz
>>43267104
It is time for you to return to reddit.
>he writes books that aim to be bought by teenaged girls
>he's a good author.
Are you retarded?
>>43270822
And then there's this shit.
Alaska was a bitchy, neurotic, manipulative, cheating slut.
John Green has so little respect for himself that this is all he desires in a woman.
>>43267104
>>43267594
>>43268311
>>43270822
>>43271313
Holy shit are you actually a faggot/john green?
>>43270016
I thought it was commonly accepted that the Dark Ages ended and medieval began when William became king of England?
>>43264153
that fucking picture always triggers me
>>43265109
pay le debntz!!!
XDDDD
These comments seriously rustle me
I hate YouTuberisms
>... because REASONS.
>... because THINGS.
>So that's a thing...
>>43270389
Thise were the muslims, idiot.
>>43265109
Debnt collectors are coming
>>43282096
Those*
>>43264153
>that OP picture
Yeah no im not listening to this retard speak for 12 minutes
>>43264153
>when mudslims take over a region he calls it conquest
>when white people do anything at all he calls it eurocentrism
This is where I found his logic to be problematic, and I think his video should have a trigger warning
>>43265915
More than likely he's just pandering to his audience (majority are female between ages 16-21, liberal, and SJW).
He's in the business of making money. Even if he was redpilled, he wouldn't tell the truth because then his audience would turn on him
>>43264153
I hate this faggot and his contents a shit, his brother is also a huge faggot, but at least the content is pretty good since he keeps agenda out of it, well, most of the time.
>>43282158
bullshit
he believes with every fiber of his being that
1. Europe/whites are evil
2. Anyone who attacked Europe was good.
all liberals believe that inherently. It's the foundation of their ideology that whites are somehow evil and responsible for past crimes and no one else is.
>>43264153
His woman has fucked men in the triple digits and he's in the single digits. He doesn't care that society will typically agree his woman is a ho, he's just assmad that the situation makes him look like a punk.
>>43264153
Why do people care about this faggot? He lies in every video he makes to push his agenda, he distorted even the Odyssey talking shit about Odysseus (the hero that should be praised by intellectuals, since he solved his problems using his brain, but I digress). He's Stephenie Meyer-tier he's an attention whore who sold himself out to pander to teenage girls.
>>43264153
>Josh Green
>promoting promiscuity and degeneracy
>Green
>>43282292
he's well spoken
jews are typically well spoken so the vast majority of them can succeed in the media if they feel like it.
>>43264153
The guy admits that 99.99% of all islamic "golden age" nonsense was simply them recycling old Greek ideas.
>But the muslims were super smart because they preserved this stuff.
I mean. Ok.
And the dumbfuck doesn't understand that mosques are easy to build because they're a SPIDER WEB OF SUPPORT COLUMNS.
Churches require a vast, open, airy space inside. That's incredibly hard to build.
Look at his "amazing super duper mosque that was built in one year ONE YEAR GUYS OMG". There's a support column every ten fucking feet. There's no open space. That's how all mosques are.
Dude is such a smarmy cuck.
>>43264849
I think his point was more along the lines of "if you focus only on a few countries in western europe, yes, it wasn't so great, but seriously, that's just a tiny section of history at the time"
He's clearly a dick, but I don't think he was too overt.
Checking out his Crusades one now, that'll be the true judgement.
Also, the facts of the show are provided by his highschool history teacher, so it's possible he's just indoctrined.
>>43282375
But how can he brainwash other idiots so easily?
A bunch of people (myself included) commented on his video, disproving his lies with references to the page in the Odyssey where said claims were supposed to happen (and they don't) and a horde of rabid teenagers and cucks started insulting us for "discrediting him", literally wtf?
>>43282462
don't they teach you the progressive narrative in school?
christianity=evil
whites=evil
europe=evil
everywhere else regardless of what they do=good
It's really that simple. If you disagree you are literally a nazi who should be banned.
>>43278681
He jerks the mongols off constantly yet never mentions their "empire" didn't even last 1 generation.
>>43279124
Go with the "Hardcore History" podcast....that dude is redpilled as fuck. And the way he speaks in his podcasts make you feel like you're actual there witnessing it
>>43282520
which is funny
when whites murder it's a crime
when asians murder it's "omg so cool and badass"
>extremely basic history lesson
>dark ages were europe centric
>other parts weren't as 'dark'
>people get butthurt at this
how.
>>43282375
pretty sure John Green is Christian isn't he?
>>43282012
>MY HISTORY TEACHER IS SO BIASED OH MY GOD
>BUT THIS RANDOM GUY ON THE INTERNET TOTALLY HAS IT RIGHT
Rustled
>>43282437
and wow, his crusades bit is actually EXTREMELY accurate, and very considerate. He addresses things from the perspective of the participants, and even addresses when certain narratives come from "post-colonial, anti-colonial, and often marxist ideologies"
>>43265109
so much debts, so little time.
>>43282520
>succesful invasions of Russia
>Genghis Khan:1
>Napoleon and Hitler combined:0
>>43271382
No one ever mentions that most if the meat for the ruling classes came from those sacrifices
>>43282735
>comparing 13th century warfare to 19th and 20th century warfare
Moscow was like a barn when the Mongols invaded.
>>43282629
he sure fooled me
>>43264153
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y
don't skip the war
>>43282735
>Successful invasions of india
>Tamberlane 1
>Moguls 1
>Britain 1
>China 1
/lit/ hates this guy as well - old news
>>43282507
That's fucked up, that's practically indictrination. Nope, I went to a catholic school all my life up to university, and even when libtards love to say that catholics hate critical thinking, it's the only school in my area, that I know of that teaches formal logic through out high school and university (physics) wasn't difficult at all with the knowledge I acquired in my "awful, opressive and fascist private catholic school", and all the "pride socialists" who attended a state technical school dropped university after a year...
>>43282840
>comparing 13th century warfare to 19th and 20th century warfare
He still had to get all the way to Moscow, no easy feat, which is why he's celebrated as a conqueror. He completely rekt Anatolia.
>>43282847
>successful invasions of Australia
>protoIndians:1
>english convicts:1
>>43268985
BECAUSE ALL THAT SHIT WAS LOST
>>43282012
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>mfw married to the woman who took my virginity for 9 faithful years, turning down many opportunities.
I hold both sexes to the same standard. You have the right to go for the "high score" all you want, but don't expect me to regard it as an achievement.
>>43264153
http://www.quora.com/Why-did-science-make-little-real-progress-in-Europe-in-the-Middle-Ages
>>43264153
>everyone culture on the planet has considered women to be more selective than men
>this difference in genders adheres to the most basic aspect of our biology
Why do you conservitards think womyn aren't happiest if they fuck hundreds of men?
>>43282910
actually he had to get to Kiev hence the name "Kievan Rus"
Not that it mattered. Most of Eastern Europe was so depopulated and empty that it didn't have a chance against 100,000 horsemen.
> why he's celebrated as a conqueror.
I'm pretty sure he's celebrated as a conqueror because he took China and most of the Middle East. Not because he set some shack in the Ukraine on fire.
>>43282984
This, as far as I've lived, you call a promiscuous man a player/douchebag/asshole/etc... All of them carry a negative connotation, why are women surprised when they are held to the same standard and get called sluts/whores?
>>43282735
>actual successful invasions of Russia
>Mongols: 1
>Japan: 1
>Germany: 1
>France: 1
>Britain: 1
>Poland: 2
>Sweden: 2
>Ottomans: 2
Thanks for playing Russboo.
>>43283044
Kievan Rus broke apart due to infighting decades before the Mongol invasion. It's part of the reason the Mongols had such an easy time conquering the kingdoms that didn't get peacefully annexed (like Muscovy and Perm).
>>43283009
probably because they start bitching about how "there are no good men" once they hit their late 30s and no one wants there old ass anymore.
>>43283044
>I'm pretty sure he's celebrated as a conqueror because he took China and most of the Middle East
Which is what I said, he had to get all the way to pre-russia russia by conquering and pillaging things in between, which is why he's remembered as a conqueror. I'm not sure we disagree at all, did you really get butthurt because I made a joke on the failures of Napoleon and Hitler?
>>43271080
>implying your ancient beaner civilization didn't implode
>>43283155
All I'm saying is conquering Russia in 1240 is not remotely like trying to conquer Russia in 1812 or 1941
It's not even comparable. Russia was already more or less westernized at that time and practically modern nation states. The Kievan Rus was not weak and nothing compared to a powerful state of that time period like China.
Science made more progress in Europe then than during the Roman empire.
>>43264153
>that video title
>talks about how wew lad china and islamic empires were while
is this guy serious? when someone thinks about the dark ages, they think about a time period in europe, but he goes on about eurocentrism and how other parts of the world were doing fine
>>43265109
le dank maymay about debt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wo2TLlMhiw
>>43281455
Yeah, he picks the subjects accordingly, but I like the way he writes. I dont know if there's actually a term for that in English but google translate came up with "wording".
Alaska was a bitchy neurotic manipulative cheating unstable suicidal cunt.
I didnt say I liked the character. I liked the book itself.
>>43281622
Im gonna have to say no.
>>43278864
Shut up kabab.
>>43265109
You shouldn't really be posting, when there are debts to pay..
>>43268985
>Ignores there are renaissances before 1500's.
>Assumes its the fault of Christians that Alexandry great library was destroyed.
>Ignores plagues and famine.
>Think that abassids didn't research.
>Ignores that mongols destroyed all muslim progress.
>Ignores that Christianity started education when there was no printing technology available. Thanks to them there's surviving knowledge pre-Carolingian age.
>Ignores that pic is biased and made up under no reliable basis.
Keep tipping that Fedora.
Confirmed for having a slut wife.
If you think about it that way brand loyalty is really stupid too. I bet he allows his wife to sleep with others
If you think John is bad you should see his brother, Hank "OMG THE WORLD IS ENDING IF YOU DON'T SPEND YOUR SAVINGS ON CARBON CREDITS RIGHT NOW" Green
That 48th bowl of cheerios is still fresh. That's the major difference.
Vaginas suffer wear and tear from multiple partners. Penises do not. That's the difference.
Keeping it simple helps to clarify facts while simultaneously BTFO of sjws.
>>43264424
>This machine kills fascists
if you mean free market socialists (chinese) then he is right
>>43285742
noice choice
>that image
Holy shit what a false equivalence
The girl can make a conscious choice not to fuck other dudes in the hope that one day she finds a steady partner
I kind of have to eat to not die.
I love Crash Course. They're one of my favorite Youtube channels. I recognize he's a bit of a leftist cunt, but otherwise its a great series.
>>43265109
le ebin pay debnts maymay
>>43283046
but women are and have been considered sluts when they sleep around for a very, very lone time, this whole "sleeping around if you're a woman is fine" mentality hasn't been a popular opinion until very recently. Also being called a player is normally considered a good thing
>>43270449
Noticed how you never bothered to reply to me? Fucking strawman cunt.
>>43270559
>>43271415
Not me. I'd want her to be as experienced as I am (a few partners...not an exorbitant amount, just enough to know what she likes and how to please me while being confident about it). Lack of experience is a turn off for me, so I don't understand this mentality that if you're her first then you're gonna be some sexual dynamo to her. It's entirely possible that she'll fucking hate it when happens and eventually cheat on you because she isn't afraid of sex anymore and wants a man who can fuck her properly.
>>43266423
>Torture was rarely if not never practiced during the medieval time
source?
>>43265109
Pay debts
>>43265109
Think of the children! And remember your debts
>retarded and misleading static about 30yr life expectancy
>no mention of the byzantine empire who was extremely relevant
>no mention of how trade in the Mediterranean changed
>dick sucking of muslims and completely forgetting about how they undid everything they did right
The only good thing he mentioned was that the Persians were responsible for everything that didn't suck in the Muslim world.
>>43264153
The cereal is the woman, not the man.
Would you eat from a bowl of cereal that 40 other men has already consumed and regurgitated?
>>43264153
Man this guy is really choking on muslim cocks
>>43264153
I could agree with a part of the analogy...
women really do, once consumed, start to become shit
>>43264153
It's a bit concerning if he's equating relationships to cereal. Cereal isn't something to you commit a lifelong monogamous bond with.
>>43264153
I have no problem with showing stuff other than european history. Really I find the islamic golden age really interesting. But please, leave your fucking agenda out of educational videos. China being divers and great? Fuck no, the chinese pesant was probably even worse off than the european one.
>So much have for crash course
You really hate facts, don't you?
>>43264153
@pic
>Do you think it matters how many people someone has slept with? No...
Virgin Males.
>>43282558
can anyone else endorse this recommendation as well?
WHO CAN WE TRUST!?!?!!?!?!?!!?!
plz list based historians
>>43288891
Just listen for yourself and decide. A lot of his podcasts are free on his website. The Wrath of the Khans is one of my favorite
>>43288952
Yeah I hear that friend. I listened to that as my intro to him as it was free. I then bought death throes of the republic which was great. Need to listen to his series on the eastern front next.
is there any screenshot type thingy that might have based historian list or something similar.
Bumping for the preservation of knowledge and a good thread with practically zero shitposting. /pol/ definitely has its moments
>>43285020
I may be a kebab but you are a kebab that likes John Green books.
And the term is "writing style".
>>43282910
>He completely rekt Anatolia
Eastern Anatolia, mind you. The Western section was untouched.
>>43264153
Number of pre-marital relationships has absolutely no effect on healthy marriage probability. Facts are for the weak.
>>43278022
Makes me glad that I live in the UK and I when I post nobody can tell I'm Greek.
>>43278864
Thanks Turkbro.
It's a historical fact that John Green never finished his studies to become a historian.
>>43264153
Did the mouthbreather actually say that?
>>43282735
>Successful invasions of USA
>Britain:0
>Mexico: 9999999999
>Canada: 1
As someone who has actually taken a World History course this guy is full of crap. This is what people get when they watch a YouTube video instead of reading a book.
I like how he mentioned Thomas Aquinas, as if he's the only thing of merit that Europe produced, while ignoring other literary and philosophical achievements like Boethius' Consolations of Philosophy, Anselm of Canterbury, William of Ockham, and Duns Scotus, Beowulf, Exeter book, the Tain, Sir Thomas Malory's Le Morte d'Arthur, the Nibelungenlied, the Mabinogion, Chretien de Troyes' Arthurian Romances, the Pearl Manuscript, the Norse & Icelandic Eddas and sagas, and so much more.
Not to mention women writers like Hrotsvitha of Gandersheim, a German who wrote in Latin and composed one of the first European plays since Roman times, as well as the poet Marie de France.
Notice the contrast between European "Dark" ages and Islamic "Golden" age, a binary opposition that privileges the Islamic world, which wasn't always the most tolerant. Spoiler: why didn't he mention why Maimonides was expelled from Spain? Notice how he praises Islamic architecture while deriding and glossing over Medieval Europe architecture. Notice his fascination over how large and glorious the Islamic Empire was.
I love learning about World history, not just European history, but if you're going to teach it at least be fair & neutral to everyone for the sake of knowledge. Downplaying European achievement isn't social justice because the only thing that is being obscured is knowledge.
If anyone is actually interested in learning something I'd recommend Norton's Worlds Together, Worlds Apart textbook, or you can read the online chapter summaries, take a quiz, and more. Chapters 8, 9, & 10 should cover this video's period and give you a better understanding.
>http://www.wwnorton.com/college/history/worlds-together-worlds-apart3/welcome.aspx
>>43290663
cont.
I understand "Dark" & "Golden" are terms used by a lot of people still to this day, but a lot of scholars already dropped "Dark" awhile ago because it perpetuates a lot of stereotypes that Medievalists are working to combat. "Golden" should be dropped too for the sake of neutrality.
Both terms carry with them a connotation that distorts our historical vision.
