>2015
>Not being a feminist
>Not thinking men and women are equal
Why do you refuse the ultimate redpill, /pol/?
Shut the fuck up troll.
>>42041657
nobody is equal, they'd just ideally be treated as such for politeness's sake but now it's causing very serious problems across the board.
>>42041657
Feminism isn't the idea that men and women are equal, that's egalitarianism.
Feminism is the idea that men should be punnished for all transgressions against women, real or imagined, without need for evidence, and that women should be given preferential status in every aspect of society over everyone else.
Feminism is the radical idea that only women are people.
>>42041657
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBdpiZ9nnhc
>always blame men and everything is rape
>equal
>toplaugh
>>42041665
>Being this bluepilled
![Photo4[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/l37ISpf.jpg "Photo4[1].jpg")
>>42041715
>>42041657
Men and women aren't equal, they're fundamentally different.
It was wholly your decision to believe that one of them was less worth than the other for being different.
(hint: the value of a person depends on the circumstance)
>>42041781
he's right to suggest that a better ideology/movement for genuine equality is egalitarianism
but wait you're being a ruseman so this thread can die quietly
>>42041803
Egalitarianism is just bullshit the kikes made up so you can trick yourself into not wanting true equality while thinking yourself a good goy
>>42041657
>2015
>Not being for equal rights for all humans and non humans, bipedal and non bipedal
>Pigeon holing yourself into the female agenda
Why do you refuse the ultimate red pill OP? equal rights for all human beings.
Equal rights is equal rights, feminism is feminism, Judaism is Judaism, Islam is Islam, Christianity is Christianity and you are a duped asshole.
>>42041657
Feminsim hates women, they want to change them to be men. Feminism itself is the idea that women are below men.
![8693393777_cd91a8413c_o[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GXXJArk.jpg "8693393777_cd91a8413c_o[1].jpg")
>>42041849
I'm afraid it's you who refuses the ultimate redpill, my sexist friend. Feminism isn't "the female agenda", as my OP stated, feminism is for everyone.
But deep inside, you know this already, don't you?
>>42041781
>>42041781
>le hat joek
SO FAHNNIE XDDDD
>>42041657
Just look at that flag...
>>42041657
YOU WILL NOT CASTRATE ME WHILE I AM LIVING, I WILL TAKE THE LEAD PILL BEFORE I ALLOW YOUR EVIL PLAN ON MY GENITALIA.
>>42041944
Strange change in tactics. Feminism went from being a female supremacy movement in your eyes, but now it's a female inferiority movement?
>>42041849
>pigeon holing
birds would find that offensive you shitlord, especially the ones that can talk. check your humanoid privileged thanks
>>42041715
>Feminism isn't the idea that men and women are equal, that's egalitarianism.
tfw I said almost those exact words to a feminist once, and she just said, "no, that's wrong, that's not militant, I FEEL that feminism needs to be militant ."
>Yabetcha shnookums
Never saw her again. Feels breddy good.
>>42041657
Women that I know, that say they hate feminism, say that they hate it for the simple reason that they don't need a movement to think on their behalf.
>>42041657
This is low quality shitposting.
>>42041657
>Not thinking men and women are equal
Why would I think that?
>>42041961
the faggot is from Melbourne
Please excuse.
Ignore this shitposting
Men and women ARE equal.
That's why they don't deserve special treatment like immunity from insults and pay rises without asking for them.
It's also why a woman who hits you should be punched right back.
>>42041950
Everybody has an agenda, but when it comes to equality for all human beings I believe equality for all human beings is the one and only answer. Anything beyond that and your asking for more than what is simply stated. Equality for all.
Feminism is feminism.
feminism purportedly supports equal rights for all. "muh body, muh rights." so why don't feminists extend those rights to unborn children?
feminism is "equality when it benefits me". feminism is hypocrisy.
>>42041973
Feminism created the idea that women being women was wrong.
>>42042034
Does your cunt ever stop being based?
>>42042004
>Women I know are as delusional and sexist, so I must be right!
>>42041657
Why do you? Feminism doesn't advocate equal rights for women, at least not in western countries. It wants special treatment for women.
>>42041950
![hqdefault[3].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/J9mR2zh.jpg "hqdefault[3].jpg")
>>42042090
>Special rights like to not be treated like sex objects in media!
>>42042050
I would argue that it's more sexist of you to assume that women need feminism to fight their battles for them.
>>42042119
Are you personally being treated as a sex object in the media? You don't have any moral right to tell others what to do.
Maybe second-wave, but not this intersectionality bullshit.
>feminism
>about equality
Females have been equal ever since they were granted the right to vote.
>>42042142
Feminism isn't fighting their battles for them, women are fighting their battles THROUGH feminism, but they shouldn't have to do it alone. Sexism affects us all, you're just too willfully ignorant to see it.
Modern feminism is a joke.
Actual feminism is commendable.
Here's an idea, "feminists". How about you rally behind getting women in 3rd world countries rights like the right to vote or the right to not be married off to a complete stranger?
THAT would be feminism, not your "GIVE US SPECIAL TREATMENT!" bullshit.
![dead-or-alive-beach[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/0heNndA.jpg "dead-or-alive-beach[1].jpg")
>>42042162
Oh please, don't pretend to not know what I'm talking about. You don't have to deal with every game doing sexualised bullshit like this at you. If you did, you'd probably bitch and moan about how gay it is
>>42042269
some one que up this is he-man image for this whiny cunt.
![mJ2tQn2[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Jjjs5jE.jpg "mJ2tQn2[1].jpg")
>>42042252
You don't clean up someone else's house when your house is still a mess.
>>42042269
You mean like how every male video game character is chiselled and could grade cheese on his abs?
Fuck off, moron.
>>42042177
>Females have been equal ever since they were granted the right to vote.
Letting a retard vote doesn't make them equal, same with other parasites like women. If women or niggers were equal, we wouldn't be having this conversation
![b98c4a8fcaa400047b76acee68100bed1398146333_full[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JZheSJe.jpg "b98c4a8fcaa400047b76acee68100bed1398146333_full[1].jpg")
>>42042280
>>42042301
Oh pleae, don't pretend you don't know the difference between sexualisation and a male power fantasy. You're not that dumb, I know you aren't.
Feminism believes in the patriarchy conspiracy.
I'm not a fucking retard so I'm not a tin-foil hatter.
>>42042315
Ok someone que up the male power fantasy in romance images.
fuck this cunt I'm out.
>>42042314
They are equal, they have the same rights as we do.
>>42042322
>Almost all CEOs are male
>women make 75 cents for every male's dollar
>Totally no patriarchy, guys!
>>42041657
wait if everyone is different how is everyone equal?
>>42041657
Feminism is a sexist term. You are placing a gender trope over the term thereby excluding the male voice.
If you believe in quality your are an equalist.
>>42041657
Men and women aren't equal. That's moronic
>>42041657
If it was about equality it would be called equalism. But it's called feminism.
>>42041657
Go shove a redback up your arse OP.
>>42042344
>ceos are male
>gets a gender studies diploma
help me feminism
hey look
Have you all not realised most posts in thread are by OP?
Why you getting baited?
>>42041657
>men and women are equal
people aren't equal
feminism is a female special interest group
>>42042428
Because aussies got to help train up their bros.
They'll never be good shitposters if they don't get a chance to practice.
>>42042428
>OP actually bothers conversing with people in thread
>This is bait you gais stop listening to OP he might challenge our worldviews!
>>42042426
>>42041657
>Feminism
>Wanting equality
Nice joke. They want a man tax and quotas for women (however they go ape shit about quotas for men in university, that is just the patriarchy being afraid of the female intellect).
>>42042119
>women don't like being treated like sex objects
if anything it's much more fedora to nod respectfully towards women.
you will never get a woman's attention by being nice to her. try again faggot.
>>42041657
As if feminists think women and men are equal. Feminist fight for a matriarchy by claiming they are suppressed. Their plan works fine since most people don't realise the real intentions behind feminist ideology and even men support their idea.
![1384973917121[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/TF3cxzv.png "1384973917121[1].png")
>>42042493
SWEDEN YES
>>42042269
The only reason sexualization in games bothers them is because it takes male attention away from them
It's the same reason why women doll themselves up to go to another woman's wedding. even though it's a day all about the woman getting married, every other woman present needs to feel attractive and get compliments in order to validate herself.
nothing pisses women off more than the idea of another woman getting more attention. so a virtual woman who isn't even real is the ultimate blow to the ego.
>>42042485
>>42042295
>implying men aren't literally stronger and that this isn't observable in biology
>implying men have rights
>>42041960
rumproasted fedora owner spotted
>>42041964
I keep a cyanide one just in case.
>>42042344
>le demonstrably false disproven-many-times-over pay gap maymay
just leave
>>42042616
Men don't need to be granted rights. They are willing to fight and die for them. Women need men to grant them rights, as they are incapable of defending them.
![tumblr_ma7karvB6G1qd96a1o1_250[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/DNWoQe6.png "tumblr_ma7karvB6G1qd96a1o1_250[1].png")
>>42042585
>Women only care about sexualisation in games because their lives revolve around men's opinions
>Not just because they don't want an arse in their face every time they play videogames
Try leaving your basement sometime brah
>>42041657
>Races or genders being equal
Ultimate bluepill
Modern feminism is just over-privileged middle-class white women circlejerking about imagined oppression, while ignoring actual oppression in the rest of the world, in particular the Islamic world. In the West feminism already rules, so they need to keep making up new bullshit like 'manspreading' and 'stare rape' in order to justify continued funding for their comfy Ivory Tower Womyn's Studies lifestyle. They are selfish, manipulative hypocrites.
>>42042655
Women generally don't play those video games for reasons completely unrelated to sexism.
![Ug2SyLv[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/L05Srvb.gif "Ug2SyLv[1].gif")
>This thread
>>42041657
Men and women are NOT equal. My friends little sister said she was a feminist the other day and said something like "hurr women are just as strong as men durr" so I challenged her to a arm wrestling competition. Of course I didn't hold back and won, and spent the next several minutes repeatedly slamming her hand into the table to drive my point. Bitch has a cast now and I drew a huge dick on it to remind her who's dominant.
>>42041657
>australian
into the trash it goes
>>42042698
>Those videogames
You mean almost all of them? Gee I wonder why.
All jokes aside, there are people that actually believe in "equality".
![attachment[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/z6lViqT.jpg "attachment[1].jpg")
>>42042718
>Anecdotal evidence
![z6gpBXm[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/9S8CP9S.gif "z6gpBXm[1].gif")
>What happens when someone who isnt a feminist talks to women
Man is this some low quality bait. 1/10, didn't even rage
>>42042811
Dubs never lie.
>>42042810
Actually it is the other way around. Radical feminists are nearly always submissive at heart and overcompensating by crying about "muh opression". They are drawn to strong dominant men.
>>42042836
>listening to repeating digits over logic and evidence
It's not surprising since you've all abandoned truth at this point, but it's still sad
>>42042269
no camel toe, 2/10 would not play
>>42042859
The burden of proof lays on the one making the claim.
You haven't provided any proof to show us how women are equal or superior to men.
Also fedora tippers are usually bronies/sjws, they have never been /pol/ or /fit/
>>42041657
guys
you have to stop
he's given snippy single sentence responses and hats the whole thread.
the more you post the stronger it gets
bring in christfags with holywater or something instead
![so-hard-to-be-an-alpha-male[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/3ZEvZre.jpg "so-hard-to-be-an-alpha-male[1].jpg")
>>42042854
SWEDEN
YES
Because you fedora tipping antifeminist neckbeards are complete alphas, huh?
>male and female lions aren't equal
>male and female hyenas aren't equal
>male and female bears aren't equal
>male and female angler fish aren't equal
>male and female gorillas aren't equal
>male and female elephants aren't equal
>male and female spiders aren't equal
>male and female ants aren't equal
>male and female bees aren't equal
>male and female cattle aren't equal
>male and female kangaroos aren't equal
>male and female moose aren't equal
>male and female tigers aren't equal
>male and female clownfish aren't equal
Literally every animal in the world, even ones that went extinct long ago, had gender roles. Why are humans any different?
>>42041657
>Not thinking men and women are equal
Source
>>42042950
>Because you fedora tipping antifeminist neckbeards are complete alphas, huh?
Silly, the feminists go after the black men we import. Not the castrated Swedish men. Are you stupid or something?
>>42042964
Those animals also give birth to young that can survive on their own, humans are barely even animals in the past 10,000 years.
>>42041657
>See shit thread with maximum shitposting
>Don't even have to look at the flag to know who is responsible for this.
>Not thinking men and women are equal.
what do you mean equal?
![tumblr_nea1rdB6T31qz8x31o3_500[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/wBZzYL0.gif "tumblr_nea1rdB6T31qz8x31o3_500[1].gif")
>>42042921
>fedora tippers are usually sjws
Oh you mean like this?
>>42042485
I didnt know texas had its own flag on pol
![1374125972617[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BErYZbn.jpg "1374125972617[1].jpg")
>>42042998
>Men who care about gender equality
>Castrated
Literally delusional.
>>42043096
You should see the "men" in feminist initiative (all 2 of them). I am beta as fuck but these people makes me look like the zenith of masculism.
>>42041657
women will finally receive that equality treatment they want so much only after they stop being huge hypocrites
Only when women start taking the same responsibilities as men will we ever see them as equals.
that's all
![B09F1MuIMAAJVfr[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iJ4U0GE.jpg "B09F1MuIMAAJVfr[1].jpg")
>>42043120
You mean like this loser?
Face it brah, stop trying to deflect your insecurities onto feminists, they did literally nothing to deserve it.
>>42043156
Cumberbatch is an objectively mediocre actor whose success is completely owed to preteen girls, so I don't doubt he'd give lip service to SBWWDNNM.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/27GjjJE.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>42043196
>W-Well he isn't a good actor anyway!!
>>42043156
More like these two so called men.
It is also funny because feminist initiative want at least 40 % women in all board of directors. But for their own party having 2/15 men is aokay!
>>42043156
Sick of looking at that cunt, he's no even a good actor just another posh public school fuck.
>>42043156
HAHAHA yes, exacly like that looser. stop trying to deflect your insecurities onto men. Men who forcefully fuck women never raped them, they deserved it for dressing and provocing sex.
Its like going to a mafia bar and insulting them, knowing it will spur basic instincts and emotions.
You cant rape women though, since rape is only possible for intelligent creatures like men.
Hence why your mangina feminist who have fatass landwhales following him usualy defend him by saying WELL YOU CANT ACT!
You dumb niggercunts cant make any sense of reason out of why you deserve getting your families heads bashed in.
![hT8HZw5[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/m6Hqdg5.jpg "hT8HZw5[1].jpg")
>>42043393
>>42042964
>Those animals also give birth to young that can survive on their own
Most of them die before reaching adulthood you know ?
>>42043493
meant to reply to >>42043003
>>42043448
You do realize that fedoras are almost always the dudes white knighting for feminists the most right?
Of course you do. You've been in this thread trolling for two fucking hours, so you're either getting paid to do it or you have autism to the maximum degree, because real feminists will at least argue a point.
>>42043660
>y-you are the fedora! not me! why don't you understand this? even my Dashie plushie does!
>>42042426
It's 'Heil'!
>>42043133
The teeth are so yellow, she looks like she has a mouthfull of piss
>>42041657
Weak bait 2/10.
>The australians did this
>>42043156
>actor repping mainstream social ideology for PR
wow, what a surprise.
literally the same as thanking god when you win an award. no one is allowed to criticize it and everyone will circlejerk over what a kind person you are.
>This is what feminsts want you to believe
It is qausi cult that seeks to blame men for everything
, enshrine women into being professional victims, and pushes outright myths.
It is also a man hating circle jerk by the loudest voices
>>42043926
Wrong image
>>42043040
Like this
>>42041657
That's like saying white supremacy is for everyone.
>>42043978
>>42041657
sure it is
>>42044013
>>42041950
riiiight
>>42042021
>It's also why a woman who hits you should be punched right back.
>>42042119
>Special rights
>>42041657
Aussie shitposter strikes again.
>>42041657
>Not thinking men and women are equal
being treated as equals doesn't make you equal.
everyone thinks men and women and blacks and whites are equal but in reality they only get treated like equals and now niggers and women are noticing that they aren't equal and they want the gubmint to gibs them things to make up for discrepancies that can easily be explained away with inequalities.
for example, cat calling: patriarchal oppression or a biological imperative that exists within healthy humans of breeding stock who are unable to curb their animalistic instincts due to feminism telling society that they don't need to?
feminism literally peddled sexual liberation and is now saying that only women should be sexually liberated and citing their own effect on society as an example of patriarchal oppression.
feminism is a fucking joke.
>>42044013
Typical male feminist.
Reminder the 3 biggest issues western feminism is facing
1. A wage gap (That doesen't exist)
2. Men not being told not to rape (Besides, you know the laws about rape that feminists want to be even stronger.)
3. Men sitting with their legs apart on public transportation
Does this seem like a march to no where that you want to be a part of? Does this seem like it is helping men or blaming things on men that don't exist?
Even if you are a women why would you want to be apart of this?
>>42041657
You are confusing feminism with equal rights advocacy. They are just as different as male chauvinism and equal rights advocacy.
>>42042322
>patriarchy conspiracy.
Otherwise known as the natural order of life itself.
>>42042280
>some one que up this is he-man image for this whiny cunt.
>>42041657
Feminism is about equality about as much as Islam is a religion of peace.
>>42044229
Reminder the 3 biggest issues white race is facing
1. White women preferring black dicks
2. White men not getting enough sex
3. Not being able to own a slave
See? Strawmanning is easy.
Actually arguing against feminism would require you to think, so you won't do that.
>>42044406
>strawmaning
Im not though you are. Every single issue I have put up is the main concern of western feminism today and it is easy to demonstrate. Im sorry you are so butthurt about the truth that you needed to strawman to make yourself feel better.
>>42044019
Malcolm X even once said "the negro revolution is owned by the foxy white democrat."
And he was right.
>>42044406
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/21/nyregion/MTA-targets-manspreading-on-new-york-city-subways.html?_r=0
HURR STRAWMAN
>>42044406
>Reminder the 3 biggest issues white race is facing
>1. White women preferring black dicks
race mixing destroys the racial purity. you don't need to be a fucking biologist to understand that
>2. White men not getting enough sex
you already made this point above, this is the same issue you fucking kike
>3. Not being able to own a slave
who said that?
i counter with this
1. whites being bred out via racemixing propaganda
2. immigration slowly turning whites into minorities in their own countries
3. political correctness advocating the destruction of white culture
your strawman was shit and the post you are replying to isn't even a strawman. come up with a better 3 for feminism or fuck off.
>>42044469
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manspreading
This article is wrong by the way. IT was originally made by sweedish feminists
>>42042269
>>42044432
>women being prevented from working at high-paying jobs doesn't exist because LEL THERE'S NO PAY GAP
>domestic violence doesn't exist because LEL I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT AND DON'T CARE
>harassment on streets doesn't exist because LEL I NEVER SEE IT, OH WAIT IT BLACKS SO IT DOESN'T COUNT
>women being considered objects doesn't count because LEL GET RAPED WHORE
>women being presented as incompetent sex objects in media doesn't count because LEL I'D LIKE IT IF MEN WERE PRESENTED THAT WAY. NOT REALLY, I WOULDN'T, BUT FEMINISTS ARE STILL WRONG BECAUSE I SAY SO
>>42044469
Yeah, a bunch of women targeting microagression means feminism is all wrong.
A bunch of skinheads being retards must mean the entire white race is utter shit then!
>>42044513
>>42044469
http://everydayfeminism.com/2014/11/double-standards-wage-gap/
STRAWMAN
>>42042269
You have no right imposing your standards onto other people who have the right to freely create and express themselves as they please.
When you take away artistic freedom, you end up with statist art like Stalin, Hitler, Mao, and other dictators had produced where "artistic freedom" was regulated and limited to what suited the party emssages.
And that's a bunch of bullshit. If you fuckers have the right to make porn, degenerate art, modern bullshit, art, attacks on Christians, and all the other shit you do, then people have a right to tits in video games because contrary to what you believe other people's rights DO NOT end where your feelings begin.
>>42044541
>women being prevented from working at high-paying jobs doesn't exist because LEL THERE'S NO PAY GAP
There is not. See your main concern is something that doesn't exist or that women are entitled to job because of their gender.
>domestic violence doesn't exist because LEL I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT AND DON'T CARE
Women actually cause the majority of domestic violence against children
>harassment on streets doesn't exist because LEL I NEVER SEE IT, OH WAIT IT BLACKS SO IT DOESN'T COUNT
Men are more likely to be assaulted and robbed , this is why we need menism
>women being considered objects doesn't count because LEL GET RAPED WHORE
Muscly men are considered sex objects but I guess that doesn't count does it? You can't sexualize men xD
>>women being presented as incompetent sex objects in media doesn't count because LEL I'D LIKE IT IF MEN WERE PRESENTED THAT WAY. NOT REALLY, I WOULDN'T, BUT FEMINISTS ARE STILL WRONG BECAUSE I SAY SO
>Muh media portrayal
Show me a example of you being shown as incompetent sex object.
GET REKT
>>42044541
>women being prevented from working at high-paying jobs doesn't exist because LEL
THERE'S NO PAY GAP
Where? In China? When you compensate for different professions, different part-time working, different positions etc the studies usually show 1-3 % wage gap. How horrible.
>domestic violence doesn't exist because LEL I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT AND DON'T CARE
It is more common for a wife to hit their husband than the other way around.
>women being presented as incompetent sex objects in media doesn't count because LEL I'D LIKE IT IF MEN WERE PRESENTED THAT WAY. NOT REALLY, I WOULDN'T, BUT FEMINISTS ARE STILL WRONG BECAUSE I SAY SO
The men presented in media isn't highly fit muscle mountains? Shit it's a lot easier to be an attractive woman. Don't eat to much fatty is the only thing they have to do. Men need to go to the gym 4 hours a fucking day to look like TV men.
>>42044536
False equivalence.
Men in media are presented as what men want to be.
Women in media are presented as what men would like to FUGG :--DDDDD
If superman looked like what women like, you'd complain about him looking "gay".
If catwoman looked like women would like her to look like, you'd complain about her being boring.
>>42044461
>Jil Sander
>men
>>42044541
http://nypost.com/2015/01/14/subway-manspreading-ads-shame-bro-riders/
STRAWMAN
>>42041657
Women have less neurons and processing power in their brains than men.
>>42044632
Catwomen does look like a woman what the fuck are you talking about? Just because your a landwhale doesn't mean more attractive people don't exist
>>42041657
> Australian shitposting
Next time try to bring some facts. Otherwise get >>>/out/
>>42044641
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_TqaUxqPPY
STRAWMAN!!!
>>42044691
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/6/dem-strategist-no-guns-just-tell-men-not-rape-wome/
STRAWMAN
OH MY GAWD SHITLORD
>>42044623
>Where? In China? When you compensate for different professions, different part-time working, different positions etc the studies usually show 1-3 % wage gap. How horrible.
Yeah, but the whole point is women can't get into those well-paying jobs and not because LEL THEY AREN'T COMPETENT
Equally competent women get lower paying jobs, because the job market is made by men for men.
>It is more common for a wife to hit their husband than the other way around.
xD
Full denial mode
>The men presented in media isn't highly fit muscle mountains?
Men presented in media are what men want to be.
Women presented in media are what men want women to be.
>Shit it's a lot easier to be an attractive woman.
LOL YEAH BEING BORN WITH GOOD GENETICS IS SOOOOO EASY
>>42044632
Women spend billions of dollars a year on magazines and make-up to look like the women in media.
>>42044541
>women being prevented from working at high-paying jobs doesn't exist because LEL THERE'S NO PAY GAP
this is illegal and women can and do sue the shit out of companies when they feel discriminated against.
http://mashable.com/2015/02/26/ellen-pao-lawsuit/
>domestic violence doesn't exist because LEL I DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT AND DON'T CARE
domestic violence is only a female issue because females keep fucking initiating it. it is more a male issue now because thanks to feminism, men are automatically considered the primary aggressors in any domestic violence situation.
>harassment on streets doesn't exist because LEL I NEVER SEE IT, OH WAIT IT BLACKS SO IT DOESN'T COUNT
what are you some kind of racist? that is their culture. this is also literally a direct result of the sexual revolution, a product of feminism.
>women being considered objects doesn't count because LEL GET RAPED WHORE
women are only considered objects by other women, men are also only considered objects by women due to how fucking hard it is to get a decent girl who will respect you and not just fuck you over because feminism tells her that you would do the same to her in a fucking heartbeat.
>women being presented as incompetent sex objects in media doesn't count because LEL I'D LIKE IT IF MEN WERE PRESENTED THAT WAY. NOT REALLY, I WOULDN'T, BUT FEMINISTS ARE STILL WRONG BECAUSE I SAY SO
uh i'm not sure what sort of media you are consuming but women are sex objects just as much as men and men are portrayed as incompetent twice as often.
fucking poland. get your fucking head in the game.
>>42044734
So the women they portray in the media don't exist then?
You are retarded
>Yeah, but the whole point is women can't get into those well-paying jobs and not because LEL THEY AREN'T COMPETENT
>Equally competent women get lower paying jobs, because the job market is made by men for men.
This has been debunked since the 70's
For example programming positions are actively kept open for years sometimes in the hopes of giving a woman that job.
>xD
>Full denial mode
Said the person who only gets what her professors tell her and refuses to read basic stats about what she is blabbering about.
>>42044691
>If firearms protected women and safest place for a woman would be in the military
Does this nigger actually think they let US Military Mongrels always have a weapon on them? top kek. Even I know most soldiers aren't armed 99% of the time.
>>42044075
>literally what is innocent until proven guilty
this law could well be the collapse of society if it spreads; you can get anyone out of their position and respected place in society by making unsubstantiated claims and letting feminazis run with it. Equality ladies and gentlemen.
>>42044734
see
>>42044613
I Rekt the shit out of you.
>also Targeting microagression
>By aggressively telling men to close their legs
Atleast you admit this what modern feminism is about
>>42044461
If you're posting that image unironically, you deserve a picture of an spaz in a fedora.
>>42044790
>An Aussie calling out poland
>>42044734
>xD
>Full denial mode
>http://sverigesradio.se/sida/artikel.aspx?programid=83&artikel=5667696
"According to new studies men are more, or equally, exposed to violence in close relations as women. This is shown by two articles from Sahlgeernska academy at Gutenberg university"
You know, feminists here don't even argue about it. Their defence is "but but men's violence is worse I promise!!! It's probably because the women were mentally abused so they hit the man!!! Men deserves it anyway!!!"
If feminism wasnt some schizoprhenic collection of ideals rangeing from individual to individual but rather had some centralized doctrine that EVERY feminist followed it would be much simpler to point out whats wrong with it but in this way you can just roll your eyes and say "but that isnt MY REAL FEMINISM",much in the way of communists and their constant "NEVER DONE RIGHT",face it feminism is basically communism lite for women (TM).
>>42044837
if i was going to shitpost as a feminist i would use arguments like this
>>42044844
>"but but men's violence is worse I promise!!! It's probably because the women were mentally abused so they hit the man!!! Men deserves it anyway!!!"
>>42044632
We can turn this situation around and it makes just as much sense. Women in media are good looking, slim and more often than not get male attention. The entire cosmetics industry is based on women wanting to be like that. Men in media are the kind of people women want to fuck, they're muscular, handsome and willing to protect the women in their lives. Your little 'false equivalence' theory can be applied to both genders. But you never considered that, did you?
>>42041657
How to bait?
>>42044848
That "real" feminism doesn't exist.
Feminism recycles carefully crafted talking points made by their masters and seeks oppression where there is none. There is nothing egalitarian about it women simply need better treatment because feminists FEEL oppressed and in a way NEED to feel oppressed to even keep existing.
>2015
>Being a feminazi
Antifeminist and proud!
>>42044075
>worst moments of their lives
I think the pervasiveness of this mentality, which holds rape up as the supreme unalterable violation of a person's humanity, is ridiculous and probably damaging to people who have actually been raped. Rape is a terrible, degrading thing that no one should have to experience, but why is it worse than say being stabbed in a mugging? Both are traumatic events which would understandably have lingering psychological impact in some cases, but why is rape alone (and particularly for women) held out as being the event which excises a part of a person's dignity and permanently changes them?
It seems to me that all this screaming and social hullabaloo about rape would hinder or even prevent a person's ability to recover from the trauma, because they are living in a culture that has ingrained in them that rape is the worst possible thing that can happen to them, and they think everyone around them will perceive it as such. If anything, THIS is the actual rape culture that disenfranchises and dehumanizes victims by keeping then from reclaiming their dignity and moving on.
>>42044790
>this is illegal and women can and do sue the shit out of companies when they feel discriminated against.
YEAH SURE SUE A HUGE COMPANY HOW CAN I NOT SUCCEED
What is this "proof" thing I need?
>it is more a male issue now because thanks to feminism, men are automatically considered the primary aggressors in any domestic violence situation.
*tips top hat*
M'gent, truly feminism is a blight, punishing aggressors, trusting the victims!
>what are you some kind of racist? that is their culture.
I was actually mocking a typical MRA. They always respond with "lel blaks" like it's an argument.
So basically your answer is:
>OH WAIT IT BLACKS SO IT DOESN'T COUNT
>women are only considered objects by other women, men are also only considered objects by women due to how fucking hard it is to get a decent girl who will respect you
*tips top hat, fedora, trilby, trenchcoat, katana and fingerless gloves*
Truly the whores are such whores! No good girl for me! Why do they all want douchebags who treat women like people?
>women are sex objects just as much as men
xD
Yeah, those 3 pics you saw counterweight 3 billions of feminist examples of women being objectified.
>>42045155
>XD
Extent to feminazi debating skills
>>42041657
How can man and women be equal when they play such different roles in reproduction? Any equality between men and women ends up being of the form 1 = 1 + x, where x is whatever we want it to be, and both sides are equal just because we say they are. In other words, either men and women are not really equal, or if they are equal, then the world "equal" becomes meaningless.
All Australians should be banned from 4chan. All they fucking do is shitpost.
>>42045288
>math proves facts wrong!
Using your logic, no two people are ever equal or else all math is broken.
>>42045332
>Feminism
>Facts
You are not even right about your average domestic assualt victim.
Time to tell women to stop abusing children.
>>42045332
True, individuals are not equal, and group averages are also not equal. There are also degrees of closeness to equality. Men and women are categorically unequal because of their reproductive roles. We end up "making" them equal by giving women special privileges such as maternity leave. That's what I meant by 1 = 1 + x. If you give women special privileges and allowances, x, then you can make them equal. But then they're not really equal because of the special privileges and allowances. When you add x to one side of the equation, equality becomes impossible, even though the 1 part is equal. What happens, then, is that the word "equal" loses it's meaning.
>>42045408
Do they teach about "vectors", "absolute values", "norms" (not gender norms, vector norms) in american schools?
Not everything is a line. It's less 1 = 1 + x, it's more like Ax = Bx + c
If feminism is about gender equality, why is it called feminism?
>>42041657
>176 replies
so many new figs
>>42045155
>What is this "proof" thing I need?
haven't you heard? women don't need proof anymore.
>M'gent, truly feminism is a blight, punishing aggressors, trusting the victims!
except that statistics show us that one sided domestic violence (one aggressor and one victim) is relatively equal by a margin of 10%
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2010/sep/05/men-victims-domestic-violence
from this, one can deduce that reciprocated domestic violence is initiated by women more than men as men are more likely to stand up to a woman than the other way around. is this an issue for feminism? not until women stop attacking men and that 40% of men that were victims of unsolicited domestic violence stop being arrested under the primary aggressor law.
>So basically your answer is:
>OH WAIT IT BLACKS SO IT DOESN'T COUNT
way to ignore my argument and focus on the yes sweden joke i made
>>42043745
>Truly the whores are such whores! No good girl for me! Why do they all want douchebags who treat women like people?
why exactly do you think that so many men have decided that women are not worth it? it isn't about women wanting "douchebags who treat women like people", it is about women fucking over good men and justifying it with feminism and the social perception that you just cited of guys who treat women like people but aren't assholes as the same losers who feel like a compliment entitles them to sex. just because a woman can walk all over someone doesn't entitle them to do so. the greatest fucking tragedy of our generation is the way feminist values has fucked up young males and now they are passive pieces of shit who get spit on and thank the girl who did it because women dindu nuffin. women are niggers.
>Yeah, those 3 pics you saw counterweight 3 billions of feminist examples of women being objectified.
fuck you polan.
>>42045446
No, it's more like what I said it is, because the word "equal" is being used for two things that aren't actually equal.
>>42045320
Shut your whore mouth cancuck.
>all these retarded MRA's flinging shit at these retarded feminists
o lawdy
>>42045478
Because it's not
>>42045446
Watch this. I will prove that a car is equal to a cinder block.
car = cinderblock + car - cinderblock
See? If you can add and subtract anything you want from one side of the equation (such as maternity leave) you can make anything equal to anything else.
>>42045538
I am not a MRA. Mra's are just fools who think first wave feminism actually exists.
>>42045583
Congratulations, you are now a feminist!
>>42045583
so
rape=a bad thing+enjoyable whimsy-a bad thing
>>42042992
Men and women are NOT equal. Period. We are a sexually dimorphic species. We are not, never have been, an NEVER will be equal.
If men and women are equal, why do they have such different dress codes?
>>42042636
>>42041964
>not just keeping weapons around.
I will die, but so will multiples of them.
>>42045651
Because men wearing men's fashions = women wearing women's fashions.
Just insert that uncertainty of what "men's fashions" and "women's fashions" are, and you have a recipe for making anything equal to anything else.
Men raping women = Women knitting hats
It's equal because it's what men and women want to do. Insert the uncertainty of "want" in there, and anything is equal.
Example:
Marrying opposite sex = Marrying opposite sex
No!
Marrying what you want = Marrying what you want
Sneak in an uncertain variable, and equality becomes meaningless.
>>42045706
>men and women aren't equal because I'm insane
OK *rolls eyes*
>>42044670
>Women have less neurons and processing power in their brains than men.
Reminder the 3 biggest issues western feminism is facing
1. A wage gap (That doesen't exist)
2. Men not being told not to rape (Besides, you know the laws about rape that feminists want to be even stronger.)
3. Men sitting with their legs apart on public transportation
Does this seem like a march to no where that you want to be a part of? Does this seem like it is helping men or blaming things on men that don't exist?
Even if you are a women why would you want to be apart of this?
>>42045745
>I'm insane
Yes you are.
>>42045706
>Marrying what you want = Marrying what you want
finally, i can invite all my progressive friends to the marriage ceremony of me and a 1200lbs male grizzly bear and he can invite all of his extended family! oh happy day.
pic related, my bae looking dreamy.
>>42044805
It goes even deeper than that.
>>42041657
Because the apex predator is never going to give two shits about their prey, let alone anything else.
>>42045777
i'm serious by the way. if the world ever degenerates into the right to gay marry wild animals i am going to kill so many fucking people at my "wedding"
>>42044613
pic related
>>42045766
It's just the will to power. Women want power, just like everyone else does. One way to get power is through unity. All else being equal, if one group is united, and the other group isn't, the one that is united will be more powerful.
And nothing builds unity like an external threat.
>>42044848
>>42045766
In the western world there is literally no need for feminism. It only serves as a tool to cause tension between genders.
Sod off cuntaroo.
>>42045827
That implies your average female outside of college is a feminist.
>>42041657
>>Not thinking men and women are equal
They aren't OP.
Men and women both have their inherent strengths and weaknesses, and when they come together the gaps of weakness are filled by the others strengths.
This is Kindergarten tier biology, why do you refuse to accept it?
>>42045841
fucking heresy
pls remove very offense
>>42045833
Holy fuck.
look, dont look.
Give bitches their own island.
>>42045888
I'd love to see you last more than a year in a country without any women.
>>42045905
What would they be missing? You know artifical wombs exist right?
>>42045905
Implying bitches=all women
>>42045939
Have fun masturbating all your life while all "bitches" fuck "douchebags" and "hipsters", then.
>>42045975
So you think women's sole purpose in life is to help us get a nut off? That is the biggest thing we would notice?
>>42045905
You do realize that productivity amongst men would skyrocket in all fields of work and study right?
>>42046014
fact
>>42045975
Ad Hominem, great argument.
>>42045975
Also
>Implying male feminists get laid
>>42045975
there are no men on the island you fucking dumbass
the feminist shilling in this thread has reached critical points
>>42046052
>that one fat nerd proves all of your men are fat nerds!
>why do women have such unrealistic standards? we MRAs must bring back traditional marriage or else we won't ever get sex!
>>42046082
>One nerd
Bad news for you beta feminists
>>42043978
You hijacked a meme that was really about you :)
>>42046111
Whoops almost forgot
>>42044013
>>42044019
>>42046113
literally heaven
is this SOD?
>>42046082
Also
>implying Im a MRA
>Implying im not here just to debunk your quasi cult and make fun of the people who follow it
>>42046162
>I'm not a MRA I swear, I just blame women for all my problems while defending rapists, domestic violence and emotional abuse!
>>42046210
>implying MRA's do that stuff
>>42045975
tactics defined
Except for the fact that men and women are not equal. That is not to say that men are better, but we are vastly different, which is okay. What is not okay, is trying to pretend the two sexes ARE the same.
That also being said, people in general are NOT equal. Some people are born to a richer, better family. This isn't to say you, as a person are less than some imaginary person down the road who was born into parents who are billionaires, but it is to say, that said imaginary person can receive better benefits that you could ever imagine.
There is no reason to punish said person for his heritage. The only thing you can do, is push to better your self, not to lesser his standard so you can get ahead. It's not how the world works, and it's now how it should work.
This can be applied to everything. I, as a white, straight male do not need to "check my privilege" so to speak all the time to speak about certain things. If I agree, or disagree with a certain argument, I should be allowed to voice my opinion at a similar rate than people who are black, or female if I am knowledgeable on a subject.
Personally, I think if you label yourself as a 'feminist' or an 'egalitarian' or whatever else, I will immediately think you're a retard. People cannot be put into such limited groupings.
>>42046210
>Maybe this strawman will make feel better
Im sorry that you can't stand the fact most domestic violence is caused by women. But MRA's are simply people deluded enough to think you give a shit about the truth that doesen't potray you as a victim and for the most part they tried really hard to appeal to feminism out of eglatrian sense.
I don't believe in equailty like MRA's do. I know all that biased legislation feminism calls for isn't based on misunderstanding but rather feels of inferioirty and just hatred of men.
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