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Ukraine War Thread #42 BEAR EDITION
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Post Ukraine related webms with sound here
>>>/wsg/560659
Latest videos:
FRESH:
>Alexei Mozgovoi's call to mass media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9n2Tr93Xxw
>UAF soldiers filming themselves one day, NAF filming them the other
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhEqqIg9zig
>NAF cleaning out Debaltsevo industrial zone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK7ewCuIB4s
>Kiev's Ambassador to Germany admits the presence of neo-nazis fighting in Ukraine live on Germany television
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcR9jl4AM3A
>Poroshenko asks about Russians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to3IP9EIpkA
>NAF thanks the United States for the new LCMR (Lightweight Counter-Mortar Radar)
http://fortruss.blogspot.ca/2015/02/naf-thanks-united-states-for-new-lcmr.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iypMGQs490#t=218
>Combat Footage in Debaltsevo - Tanks and Men
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK7ewCuIB4s
>Before and After: A tale of a Ukrainian Army Position
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRRPQZamg6I
>Destroyed positions of the UAF 128th mountain-infantry brigade near Debaltsevo
http://youtu.be/St1EELlsorA
>Americans call out Germans on Relations with Russia
http://fortruss.blogspot.mx/2015/02/german-newspaper-bild-gets-inside-us.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWnH-9JxJyA
>NAF CAPUTRES DEBALTSEVE AND PUTS FLAG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfziRDambrY
>Entire UAF squad surrenders at Debaltsevo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L69lVpdK0K8
>Spanish documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cvtEQyK0fU
>Givi escorting reporters at the airport
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMnsXC5lhmE
>Defender of Fatherland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iypMGQs490
>Music video depicting events in Donbass
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDsz8OvLZhs

Old thread - >>41761221
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Second for Mozgovoy as Chairman of the new Soviet Empire
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1st for givi, eat shit haters
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First
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Based freedom loving Crimean

Live long and proper Slav man

You can stay at my house and eat my potatos anytime should you wish
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>>41765803
givi #1
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>>41765741
Third for muh sanctions!
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And that's it, going to sleep.
Good night, anons.

>>41765815
Thank you, brother.
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Russian menace must be stopped.
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>>41765858
good luck crimea !
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>>41765741
Good Luck, NovoRussia!
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>>41765887
I would like to fistfuck that woman
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is givi depressed? i heard one of the cyborgs he killed was his friend back in school
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>>41765915
GOOD LUCK NOVOROSSIA
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>>41765926

maybe he realizes he is a live walking talking shillpost for Putin.
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>>41765741
GOD BLESS NOVOROSSIYA.
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>>41766026
Maybe usa can go fuck themselfes
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>>41765875
>>41766026

Ignore americunt shitposters, block americunt shitposters, report americunt shitposters.
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>>41766046
Why does Sweden still post
We all hate you
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>>41766080
We hate sweden for what they have become. But at least they dont try to rule the entire world.

Everyone hates the USA more.
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>>41766080
Death to america
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>>41765926
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>>41766080
fuck off, your nationality isn't wanted here

Banderist supporting chocolate president
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>>41766130
Why are medias pushing so much for a global war?
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>>41765915
GOOD LUCK NOVOROSSIA
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>>41766184
Well spoken my british gentleman
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>>41766130
I wouldn't listen to their shit. The defense department is always asking for money. They overstate the numbers.

>>41765858
g'nite Crimean-bro.
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>>41765926
no, he's not depressed, he's tired after such a long war. He just need a week of good sleep and fuck some bitches or hookers and he will be back to his happy self
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Soon morning in europe. Get ready for some actions folks.
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>>41766184
I hate my chocolate president and love Russia? Why do you have to lump us all in together? Shit I hate most Americans. I'm in the process of getting French citizenship.
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How do I hide all American posters.
Please allow me to straight up hide all flags of the same kind, moot.
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>>41766189
who might possibly want such a thing?
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>>41766080
I still love you Amerikun. Together we will smash vodka
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>>41766189
Neo-cons think they can win a nuclear exchange with Russia.
Or they think they can bluff Russia into backing down.

Mostly its because they are aging fools who believe their own propaganda.
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Can anyone translate what the poster says? I notice Putin has the same little heat as Gagarin.
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when are these angsty threads going to end already?
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>>41766189
They are pollacks, just want the happening to happen
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>>41766026
why are all freedom burgers fucking shit lords?
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>>41766251
europeans?
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Is this a typical beach in Russia?
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British parliament releases report saying the west has no idea what it’s doing in the ukraine

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/02/20/uk-ukraine-crisis-britain-idUKKBN0LO0OA20150220
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>>41766292
>shit lords
ridf you do realize you're not on tumblr anymore and Latuff is a faggot? right?
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>>41766026
I still don't get why /pol/ is so on the side of the NAF. You can talk Jews till the sun comes up, but both sides are Jews so it can't only be Jews. It seems like there are alot of Putin shills on this board.
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>>41766329
>resurrect a stillborn ceasefire
Who the fuck writes this trash?
What disgusting language.
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>>41765741
that 2nd video gave me some serious feels holy shit.
the way the first part ends with "what the fuck are they looking at over here"
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>>41766370
Jews control both sides nothing new under the sun
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>>41766386
>Who the fuck writes this trash?

Reporting by Andrew Osborn; Editing by Tom Heneghan
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>>41766405
first for Jewtin
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>>41765741
OP follows
@rConflictNews
@ArmedResearch
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>>41766311
Yep, exactly like that.

http://youtu.be/Oj0m-QVXFZ0
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>>41766272

'poyekhali priyekhali'

means 'went, arrived' or 'went, came'
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>>41766466
also priyekhali in the meaning pizdets
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>>41766460
they can dance all day, it's not going to bring back their economy
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>>41766460

They dance happily while the Donbass is being shelled for their "happiness", and its independence, earned with blood and enormous suffering, is being traded by Putin for recognition of Crimean reunion with Russia and lifting some of the sanctions by West.

Guess who deserves get their towns burnt? [hint: not Donbass or Ukraine]
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so is merkele FSB or CIA?
she seems a bit lost in all this-
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>>41766460
Crimean bro your girls are qties.
Mind if I have some?
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>>41766466
>>41766466
in Gagarin's context the first means "Let's go!" It's optimistic as beginning of something new and good

Putin's "Priyekhali" means something like "(You/We) have arrived" which's something like (You/We) are fucked"

So, pls, instead of wasting your time on bourgeois фopчoнк, go water your bulba or fap to your bat'ka, or combine these two activities.
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>>41765915
GOOD LUCK NOVOROSSIYA
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>>41766388
Fuck, forced into fratricide, that's the reality of this war.
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>>41766311
but of course
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>>41766524
Are you Crimean? do you live there? are you suffering for the sanctions against Russia?
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>>41766272
Gagarin: let's go (famous words from his first flight).
Putin: we have arrived

It rhymes but nothing deep behind it
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>>41765926

Because he is Ukraine.....
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>>41766026
Or maybe he realized he needs a plastic surgery and a sex change so the friends of whom he killed can't find and rape his ass.
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>>41766370

It's paid shills plus some autistic contrarians escaping reality and siding up with a delusion the shills painted up.
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RUSSIAN TERRORISTS DEPLOY CHILD SOLDIERS IN BRUTAL WAR AGAINST FREEDOM AND DEMOCRASY AND BURGERS.
FUCK PUTIN DEATH WARCRIMINAL MURDER #StopPutler

but not really.
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>>41766763


His troubles soon be over
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>>41766942
Yes really.

kyivpost.com/content/ukraine/teenage-warriors-prepare-for-battle-as-part-of-right-sectors-ukrainian-volunteer-corps-378607.html
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>>41766545
>>41766662


daily reminder to kill yourself, galician scum
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>>41766942
i seen that truck before
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>>41767058
Those are young, freedom supporting volunteers who love their country and hate terrorists.
A Poroshenko Youth if you will.
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>>41767134
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>>41767061

oh no!
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>>41767134
>>41767143

this one has digital spots and it's not even the same model - rear lights are lower and of different shape along with the bumper
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>>41765741
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2-WZntFXgQ
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>>41767185

daily reminder you autist don't even get paid for this

>http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/uid/E4ASMcwn/
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>http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/image/h_hRVn1e999Y9CPyXFgf0w/
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>http://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/uid/d%2BV24pAj/
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>d+V24pAj
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#ForFree
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So how much fun could I have in Kiev spending American dollars?
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>>41767255
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To Kiev!
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>>41767554
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>>41767602
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>>41767465
That would buy a lot of cheap Prostitutes, remember to use protection. And, i, uh, not sure what else you can do there.
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>>41767632
you could probably buy every single whore in Donetsk if you have $50 yo
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>>41767418

sauce?
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>>41767757
>>41767632
>>41767465
What happened to that plan to crowdfund a tank for the NAR? I'd rather spend my money on that.
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>>41767624
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Apparently Poroshenko is now accusing the Kremlin of organising the snipers who shot the protesters?

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31548896
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>>41769011
>Russian snipers
>Not CIA / Mossad
Nigga what?
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>>41769011
>>41769142
Not only that but their maps are shit. They have a map that shows that the pocket was not closed on the 18th of February. It's BBC news, not sure why anyone would expect any reporting that is remotely accurate.
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>>41769011
As a qualified GRU agent, I can assure that we have, in fact, organized a drop from low orbit right onto the kievan rooftops.
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>>41769142
>>41769209

http://www.unian.info/politics/1044536-yatseniuk-russia-should-pay-for-restoration-of-donetsk-and-luhansk.html

"As for the reconstruction of the Donbas - I think it is logical to put the question of reparations to the Russian Federation. They destroyed the Donbas, and Russia should pay for the restoration of Donetsk and Luhansk," Yatseniuk said.
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>>41769345
glory to kruaine
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>>41769322
Spacenatz
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>>41769345
he should go cry wolf again and bait what ever remaining nato counties that didn't take the bait yet to tell them to send him more supplies that he can sell for quick cash into his pockets
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>[eng subs] "Fear and Loathing in Debaltsevo" report by Steshin & Kots

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdDFSE9Qf-Y
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>>41770002
see, this is what I been saying over the years in /k/ but no one listens, you can have the best and the most powerful weapon in the world and enough ammo to fire on full auto for a year, but without food or water no army can last for more than a few days because you can't use ammo as food to keep you going or take a bite at the tanks to fill your hunger.
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Test
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>>41770314
But what about all those guys touting their .22 for muh survival skills?
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>>41770352
what the fuck are you going to hunt to eat in a no man's land war zone?! dirt, rocks or trees? wild lifes won't linger that's one thing for sure, they be dead even if they do stick around. On top of that, I doubt you can actually roam around the battle field without getting cap in the ass by snipers
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>>41765803

>implying that there are actual givi haters
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>>41769345
I can't believe the US chose these chucklefucks as its puppets. Surely they could have found less retarded ones.
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>>41771063
Everyone less retarded realised what a bad idea their plan was.
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>>41771063
It keeps happening.

www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/saakashvili-says-ukraine-could-conquer-russia-provoking-official-outcry/515578.html

tie stocks + 20%
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news should be divided into fresh and stale, so people know what OP has added
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-31561769
>Russian government supporters are to rally in the capital Moscow to mark the first anniversary of what they view as a "coup" in neighbouring Ukraine.

>Thousands of people are expected for a march actively promoted in Russia's state media under the slogan "We won't forget! We won't forgive!"

>"We won't forget! We won't forgive!"
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when shit's calms down, I strongly recommend visiting Crimea. It's absolutely amazing, especially the south coast.
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>>41771307
>tfw could meet Natalia

Courts in most countries are open to the public for the purposes of free and fair trials. I could just walk in and see Natalia. It would be like a dream come true.
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What is the current happening lvl
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>>41771214
How do you discern between a fresh roll and a stale roll? you fucking you eat it
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>>41770509
Rats, cats, and feral dogs. Also pigeons.
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>>41767438
rekt
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>>41765741
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ac9_1424448169

seperatist captured by azov explaining some issues

here's the log:

Azov:
- How you become separatist?
Separatist:
- I moved without passport and rebels intelligence get me. I was did jobs for them about 5 days and after that they offer for me be separatist. I agree.
Azov:
- How long you separatist?
Separatist:
- From July 2 I begin military service. Bla bla bla city 'Krivoj Rog' ... bla bla bla my tank T-72...
Azov:
- You operated with Tank?
Separatist:
-Yes.
From 1:45 in video to 4:20 they talks about battle separatist was invited about guns he seen ...
Azov:
- Are you talking about Russians supervisors?
Separatist:
- I not see by myself, but another talk about Russians supervisors.
From 5:20 separatist sayd:
- I'm tank commander I get salary august 5000 UAH, October 1000 $, December 100$ and 1200 UAH. I bought watch, camera and etc....
Azov:
- Can you say names your friends?
Separatist:
- No names only 'calls'. Some my soldiers go to holiday and no returns.
Azov:
- How many soldiers deserter in separatist army?
Separatist:
- No deserters, just write ask go out. Condition in the separatists army not understandably.
Azov:
- Why you are rebel?
Separatist:
- I seen Gorlovka after shelling. Can't be separatists shelling city I decided be separatist. ...
---------------- From 8: 20 begins the best explanation: what is 'Ukrop army' ...ha ha ha .......
- who attacking ? hmmm ammm nmmmm they hmmm news said west Ukraine,
Azov:
- You mean Ukraine army attacking?
Separatist:
- No, no Ukraine army (9:05) we call them 'Ukropi'
Azov:
- Who are 'Ukropi'?
Separatist:
- 9:20 'Ukropi' have wrong information and shelling our territories. It's not Ukraine army, I seen no Ukraine army
Azov:
- Then what kind of army?
Separatist: - I don't know, but it's not Ukraine army, certainly not.
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>>41766449
Jews smile around putin because they don't want him to put them in prison.
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>>41769345
>"As for the reconstruction of the Donbas - I think it is logical to put the question of reparations to the Russian Federation. They destroyed the Donbas, and Russia should pay for the restoration of Donetsk and Luhansk," Yatseniuk said.

Typical jew never wanting to pay anything out of his own pocket. Let the goy do it.
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>>41771853
They also smile because they hope he's going to make business easier some day.
I fully support Putin's current course in foreign politics, but our economy has been a fine mess for some good 15 years of his rule, he could've done something.
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>>41767857
The British guy never followed through it would seem.
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>>41771893
>under Putin incomes tripled
>under Putin wages more than tripled
>under Putin unemployment halved
>under Putin poverty more than halved
>under Putin the economy grew for 8 straight years
>under Putin the GP grew by 72%

Yeah what a terrible economy he's created.
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http://www.interfax.ru/world/425669
"ATO" rep Stelmakh claims the rebels have used recon drones at least 15 times in the last 24 hours, also claims that one of them was shot down. iPad battery was low though.

>>41771917
I know that. I see how people live today, and by comparison to, say, 1999, we're golden. Some of this is due to the oil prices, some is due to reforms, some is due to reduced corruption.
Still, the Union produced a shitload of radiotechnical supplies. That industry is half gone now.
Most of the fish and other seafood we imported from Scandinavian countries (and still do, through intermediaries) is our own fish previously exported there. Why? Because it takes around 20-25 days for our local fish to pass all the checks, while it takes three days for it to see the stores if you sell it to the Nords.
The list goes on. It's pretty retarded.
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>>41772314
>Most of the fish and other seafood we imported from Scandinavian countries (and still do, through intermediaries) is our own fish previously exported there. Why? Because it takes around 20-25 days for our local fish to pass all the checks, while it takes three days for it to see the stores if you sell it to the Nords.

It's obviously not perfect, but every developed country has such bullshit regulations.

My gf is Norwegian and she says that in Norway they ship the fish they catch to China to be canned, and then have them shipped back to Norway to be sold. This is because it's cheaper to ship it to China and back than to can it in Norway.

Every country has arbitrary laws that hurt the economy. Here in Australia there's a tariff on guitars but not violins, margarine not butter, and umbrellas - but not those with a telescopic shaft. We still have tariffs on cars even though we don't produce our own anymore.

I doubt it's going to end any time soon, for any country.
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>>41765741
glory to ukraine!
fuck russia!
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>>41772535
notice how it's usually autists who support the rebels. my basic calc professor is a high functioning aspie and he fully supports the rebels.
putin himself i an autist! crazy world we live in
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>>41772587

Notice how its only the Americans that are against the NAF.

America itself is a fucking brainwashed autistic piece of shit country.
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>>41771783
>azov

stories of Asov..
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>>41772314
>Still, the Union produced a shitload of radiotechnical supplies.

Soviets didn't get good at integrated circuits. US did. You guys were bound to lose electronics markets.

It was actually a military decision. We had the scale and investment to develop consumer microchips because the air force was willing to bankroll them. Soviets chose to use tube tech instead of FETs because FETs are easy to take out with EMP. They didn't, and probably couldn't, anticipate the cool shit that would be possible at FET technology advanced. Now Russia has no significant chip foundries. The US and China have like 95% of the market.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_semiconductor_fabrication_plants
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>>41767438
lol a weeboo bitch like you is calling someone an autist fucking lol
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>>41772587
I probably am a little bit aspy. Then against, you have autistic fuckers like Robsperg who are hilariously pro-Ukraine.
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>>41772623
COMING FROM A BRITBONG LOL
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>>41772685

lol dude lmao rofl lol dude

lol dude lol where is my car lol
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>>41772671
ukrainians have been the underdogs for centuries. i fully support ukraine. russia is a mudslime shit hole. also fuck poland their language sounds awful.
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>>41772623
>Notice how its only the Americans that are against the NAF.
>America itself is a fucking brainwashed autistic piece of shit country.

When your country has been run by Jews since 1913, you become a docile little goy cow.
me on the other hand, I'm a recent import to the USA so the Hollywood programming never kicked in.
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>>41772697
a paki stole it and nothing will be done about it HAHAHA
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Why are these threads so pro-Russian?

Serious question. I'm genuinely curious as I don't post here often.
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>>41772724
How can you back a side that toppled a democratic government to install fascists and then persecuted their large minority to the point where they wanted independence?

It is a righteous fight against an illegitimate government.
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>>41772707
>ukrainians have been the underdogs for centuries

Probably because they're consistently shitty. I'm pretty into meritocracy and I don't think it is our responsibility to give them a country. They don't deserve shit if they're too incompetent and corrupt to earn it.
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>>41772755
>fascists
I don't really get this meme. /pol/ is chock full of Naziboos and now you turn around and say that Kiev must be defeated because they are fascists?
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>>41772724
>Why are these threads so pro-Russian?

If Russia was actually the conspirator and aggressor here /pol/ would be excoriating putin right now.
We're thinkers, not people who flip CNN ever night to download our opinions from our jewish gatekeepers nightly.
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>>41772707
No such thing as ukrainian, the ukraine means borderland; there are russians, poles, tatars and jews resident in the ukraine.
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>>41772714

Yeah, the US military funded most of the early studies in psychology because they were scared of the loyalty of the Chinese and Soviets. They wanted to out do them. Well, they did. It was Psyc race and they won. Now, you see that psychology being extrapolated into advertising and controlling consumer minds. They also invented a lot of the drugs that people use recreationally.

It's pathetic. But what's more pathetic is the burgers following them blindly, like a sheep. They don't even know that they are being mindfucked left, right and center, and ultimately into oblivion. Its saddening to witness.
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>>41772724
Because the west is hilariously pro-ukraine at this point and is justifying it in whichever way they can. Propaganda, one sided reporting, shilling, etc.

This grows resentment and people are fed up with being lied to by their own government and media, extend that a little into the "my enemies enemy is my friend" and there it is.

>>41772795
/pol/ is chockfull with all kinds of retards...
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>>41772795
It's the inconsistency. You can't establish rules and then break them.

>Kosovo is a country coz it voted to be one
>Crimea can't be a country even though it vote to be one

>it's Nazi to have anti-immigration laws
>it's not Nazi if one of our puppet governments persecutes minorities

>need to invade countries to install democracy
>need to remove democracy in a country which has it
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>>41772795

Personally, I don't give a shit if they're fascists or not.

It was Ukraine's incompetent obvious propaganda that turned me against them. Early on, and even now, it is very hard to find any pro-Ukrainian source with accurate information about the war.

On the other hand, the rebels are pretty funny, they seem like normal dudes, and their situation reports are pretty accurate.

These were small things at first, but they slowly grew into a huge dislike for Ukraine and a large support for the rebels.

Shit like pic related. Like. What. The. Fuck.
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>>41770002
wtf kind of bird is that? that looks crazy. 5:00
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>>41772656
>posting on 4chan
>getting mad at someone who likes anime
pls
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>>41771303
expect us
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>>41772901
people from the state department, and frankly other boards and special interests, who come to 4chan to shill are pretty clueless about board culture and for some reason still think /pol/ or /b/ is some sort of stand alone board
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>>41772883
High winds in slaviansk.
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>>41772957
kek
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>>41772707
>russia is a mudslime shit hole
russia conquered muslims 500 years ago
that's like twice the years of your country's existence
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>>41772946
There are those who arnt shills and just arnt quite aware why it is that chans exist especially this one.
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>>41772895
I think it's this one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_pheasant
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Can someone give me a SitRep? Its hard to follow the conflict 24/7 when these threads are mostly shill posting
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>>41771303

russian shills spent too much time on /pol/
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>>41772402
Still, it's retarded and nobody inside our country profits from it.

>>41772647
Nigga, I'm talking basic stuff like transistors. Don't try to educate me on this, we had it.
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Proof of russian involvement.
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>Im as american as apple pie and thats obviously not true.

A Russian actually used this statement to prove how American he was and not Russian.
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>>41773056

Notice the date on pic related

Also

http://www.sott.net/article/289437-Hacker-CyberBerkut-leak-US-document-scans-with-plans-to-supply-weapons-to-Kiev
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>>41773097
there was an image of a shipment with the number #369, some russian anon posted it yesterday
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>>41773097
>Notice the date on pic related

Can't read shit Mr. officer.

14 july 2014?
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>>41773145
I mean the cursive part.
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>>41772813
Speak for yourself, the only reason these threads are cheering for the rebels is because we have a lot of internet anarchists here.

The sane people look in for time to time, see the thread worshiping the latest staged rebel photo-op, shake their heads and move on.
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>>41773145

14 November 2014
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>>41773163
So they had those anti artillery radars for months now and still failed hard, that's what you wanted to say?
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>>41773158
>Speak for yourself, the only reason these threads are cheering for the rebels is because we have a lot of internet anarchists here.

Thats mainly your opinion, and /pol/ is hardly anarchists, if you want that you go to /lgbt/ and /r9k/ and other boards populated with freaks who can't hold a job.
Speaking of that I need to go to bed I gotta work saturday.
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>>41773017
thank you. i've seen the cocks before in pictures and I even have a hunting vest with them printed on the inside. I've never seen the hens. weird. i forget about birds looking so different based on gender.
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US is butthurt
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So how are my Russian bots doing today? Hope you are having a good day, I just woke up and I'm drinking some Coffee.
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>>41773233
I'm not sure, looks like a good cop - bad cop routine.
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>>41773265
>I just woke up and I'm drinking some Coffee.

It's around 10 am in western europe, what's the time in your place?
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>>41773283
2:48 AM So hows it going?
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>>41773196

No, in November, Putin and Obama were in White House for peace talks.

Biden had condemned Russian involvement.

Peace was what they were pushing for, and imposing sanctions on Russia for their involvement

There is a lot of hypocrisy involved here, especially considering the US has been accusing Russia of supplying arms and them merely supplying non-lethal aid
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>>41773043
I would be more concerned about the death of your heavy industries. An economic liberalization needs to happen or Russia will die.
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>>41773022
Currently there is a bit of a lull in the fighting.
Mop up work is being done on the last holdout south of Debaltsevo.
Donetsk is getting hammered by artillery in retribution.
Also probably in preparation for an assault later. The UAF have staged a sizable force off to the north west and west of the city. You usually use a large artillery barrage to soften up defender positions before an attack, so expect one eventually. Sadly for the attackers, the rebels practice 'elastic defence' and so fall back away from areas under bombardment or threat then come back when its over expecting the assault.
There's a lot of back and forth around the town of Shirokine on the Azov coast. Azov and a couple of other groups are getting into it with the rebels there, bombarding the town, advancing into it and getting bombarded by rebel artillery.
North of Lugansk, a group of Ukraine soldiers looks to have over extended and will probably end up cauldron'd against the Russian border.
See 'elastic defence'; the rebel units moved away, drawing them in and are closing the gap behind them.
Semenshenko will be upset, they are his men apparently.
Those are the interesting hotspots at the moment.
Both sides are recovering after Debaltsevo, so its as quiet as a war gets. Unless something important happens on the geopolitical stage, we wont see anything major until spring.
My money is on Kiev trying an armored assault across farmland somewhere before the post-winter mud has dried. They are great at that kind of tactical decision making.
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>>41765814
>>41765811
>>41765803
This cancer has got to stop.
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>>41773283
>>41773295
It's 10:55 in Ukraine now.
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>>41773322
Thank you australia, for your ironically shitpost-free response.
So basically the cease fire isn't holding AT ALL?
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>>41773342
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>>41773397
yes, basically the cease fire lasted about 30 minutes - 1 hour max
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>>41773397

We are way past that point compadre
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>>41773322
>Semenshenko

He's a GRU asset by now, hope to see him in defense of Kiev.
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Guys. I have a dubious source and I advise we all take this with massive amounts of salt and all, but I've heard from some friends that the gov is considering mobilization in late spring.

Usually I'd dismiss this as bullshit speculation, bit after they announced the reactivation of deserve troops last month I think this could be legit.

Only time will tell.
Remember, many blame Russia for ww1 because of our preemptive mobilization.
Shot could get real
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>>41773568
When was the last time Russia mobilised?
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>>41773397
It never really started. Neither side actually wanted it.
The Minsk II talks were all geopolitical wrangling between Germany and Russia. Both of them want an end to this conflict and a return to normalised relations for trade and other purposes. They have slightly different reasons behind this motivation. Everyone with a brain in the diplomatic and state leading scene understands what will happen if the US continues to arm and support the coup government there.
When certain circles talk about it being the last chance for peace, they aren't talking about Ukraine. Its a much bigger political problem than that. A much more dangerous one.
The only reason Merkel took Hollande along was if she had gone alone to talk to Putin, Poland would have rolled tanks into Germany in a blind panic.

This is worth a read:
A Massive Account of Ukraine Peace Talks in Minsk
>Germany's top political magazine salutes Chancellor Angela Merkel for her effort to help find a negotiated solution to the war in Ukraine
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics_opinion/2015/02/17/3581
I know, Russia Insider. But its just the English translation of an article that was in Der Spiegel that goes in depth into what happened there.
No commentary or opinions.
The fact it even exists is an interesting signal in a change in EU-USA relations.

This one is an interesting analysis of that article

Minsk, Merkel and the American Way: Der Spiegel says Putin has won
http://www.sott.net/article/292772-Minsk-Merkel-and-the-American-Way-Der-Spiegel-says-Putin-has-won

Probably a bit more opinionated, but its a fairly interesting and important read to get a feel for the big politics going on.

And its quite big.

And it terrifies me.
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Hey I have a good name for a Ukraine war general:

Sevasto/pol/
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>>41773584
Probably during the Georgian war, maybe not, I was out of Russia and realm could give less of a shit back then since I was busy making money.

I do know however that reserve troops haven't been checked on for a long ass time
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If the rebels had any advantage in this conflict they wouldn't have those main city being BTFOD lol. Seriously it's been a year and they can't stop Donetsk from getting shelled. See desltabvo was really a strategy used by the UAF to pull the rebels into wasting their resources and troops in taking a small pocket. Look at the pictures there's tons of dead Russians everywhere and barely any ukranian troops (or else you would see pics all over pol) lol this was just to pull Russians away from Donetsk. Expect the Russians to be crushed soon and the land taken back under Ukraine.
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>>41773732
Righto...
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>>41773672
they probably mobilised the russian military in the russian areas that are around Georgia. This time it's different.
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>>41773628
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>>41773732
This.
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>>41773056
> 6 years
> cat has not aged at all
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Good day, fellow shills. Anything new happened?
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>>41773732
The darnedest things shills say
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>>41773732
Can someone please explain to me how Tails became the defacto mascot for Ukraine on this board? Is it a spill over from 2ch?
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>>41773798
I guess it's a sign to recognize fellow shills.
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>>41773779
Counting up the results of debaltsevo, rumors, rumors, stalemates and speculation.

Business as usual
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>>41773732
by stating that the Debaltsevo cauldron didn't exist, Poroshenko 'sacrificed' around 7-8000 of his troops in there. There weren't much deaths because many of the UAF soldiers that were surrounded surrendered (about 20-30 soldiers a day) into NAF's hands. Those that didn't surrender were fucked badly
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>>41773806
No shills only American volunteers.
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>>41773813
And you got profs how? All I'm hearing for sure is how Donetsk is getting fucked up so there's that. Seriously there's no way to win.
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Just a bunch of destroyed Russians.
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>>41773843
donetsk being shelled is a revenge for what happened in Debaltsevo. Just take a look at the videos showing UAF soldiers shooting at their comrades who are surrendering.
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>>41773732
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhEqqIg9zig
there you go - tons of dead russians, just for your pleasure
you're wellcome
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>>41773732
Thank god that Poroshenko and General Vorobyov read this book.
Without it things may have turned out differently in Debaltsevo,
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https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2671088
>At first glance, there is nothing in common. But the total is still there - the city of N, military unit *****, Nth separate motorized infantry brigade.

What's the sep goal really? Just Debaltseve, Lugansk, Donetsk? All of Luganda and Donbabwe? Until Kharkiv? Odessa? Kyiv? Lviv? Portugal?
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>>41773857
acutally on the tank on the far right you can spot 2 white stripes which means that these are Ukrainians
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>>41773874
Lol fake ISIS footage. Photoshop too. It's not like you eddit video or something.
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>>41773843
It would take enormous resources to push ukies back to the point where they can't shell Donetsk. And having accomplished that, the rebels lose their best PR trump card "muh ukrops shelling their own citizens!!!".

They'd much rather kill ukies in pockets and villages. It's really the only strategically sound option.
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>>41773857
>people die in wars
What a shocker!

also >>41773890 this
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>>41773885
This gets posted every thread but pic related.

Though most likely they'll only get Luhansk, Donetsk, and maybe Debaltseve. You have to compromise in a peace treaty.
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>>41773890
Stupid Russians.
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>>41773857
> do we have anything to show that we're winning the war?
> no? nothing? anyone? anything at all?
> oh I know, let's take photo of ours and brand it as their loss!
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>>41773885
>>41773909
There can be no peace. Neither side wants it. Junta leaders cannot do it because their career would be ruined. Russia cannot do it because remains of Ukraine would join NATO
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Could someone shop this tails with a Ukrainian flag background real quick. I wanna go shitpost with it. Don't have comp so I really can't.
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>>41773947
But neither Europe nor Russia wants the war to drag on forever, and US pressure will only sustain it so long.

Eventually there will have to be peace, one way or another.
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>>41773909
That's just a pic. There has to be an updated and more realistic goal, and current situation with maybe a bit of buffer zone with border to Russia secured would seem like it.

Neither side can't expect big wins at this point.
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>>41773914
he's taking a piss at you, that's not stupid
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>>41773899
>>41773857
>>41773914
Lol. Posting pics of dead ukies. BTFO. Just deal with it.
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>>41772813
Not sure if you're making fun of /pol/'s amazing ability to eat up propaganda or being actually retarded
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>>41766311

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMj7DGN1yD4

This is what a typical Russian beach looks like
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>>41773958
Could someone do this already so the shilling can stop???
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>>41773958
>9000 hours in mspaint
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>>41773899
please, find ONE pic of a dead russian already
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>>41773958
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>>41774037
that fucking sucks mine is better go back to the dead white trailer trash thread pls
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DpDxT2q9QE thread theme
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>>41774061
The what thread?
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>>41773981
The goal is a regime change in Kiev, I'd imagine. The seps don't need to take it, just to exist until it happens.
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>>41773885
Their final goal at the end of the day is to overthrow the current oligarch government, replacing it with either federalisation or balkanization of the nation's oblasts.
Secession and joining Russia is also an option, but given that Russia has refused them its off the table for now.

Near term goal are securing their territory in the oblasts. That means driving the Kiev army back out of the strategic towns of Artemivsk, Kramatorsk and Slavyansk.

Long term goal include securing Mariupol, Kharkiv, and potentially all the territory to the Dneiper River. No small task, but this is a strategic goal that is measured in a year or two for a fighting force of the rebel's current capabilities.
That assumes that Kiev's army doesn't break and fragment. Their morale is already gone and has suffered even worse after the Debtalsevo catastrophe. What is going on in Artemivsk right now and the anger from several high ranking, high profile commanders at Poroshenko are evidence enough that the damage is done and it might be starting to break now.
Breaking the army and having it turn on its masters is another potential goal. One they may have succeeded at.
It would be much easier to have the army break, disperse and start a second civil war with the government than have to fight them for every town and city in the east.

At least this is how it seems from my armchair.
Who knows, maybe all the rebels want is to kill, kill, kill until only the mighty Russians remain?
Time will tell.
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>>41773914

Does the NSA not train it's shills anymore? First thing's first, you gotta need to identify the sides before trying to shill against them. You're posting NAF m8, notice how the vehicles have no stripes and the soldiers are wearing mostly green camo with white bands around their legs and arms.

Ukrops have racing stripes on their trucks and shitloads of yellow duct tape all over their arms legs and usually even helmets.
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>>41774097
this
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>>41774103
maybe he is shill double agent
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>>41774025
>>41774037
How about this one with same background? Maybe with ukranian cuss words as an extra bonus. Thank you. You are literarily buying war bonds.
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>>41774144
If someone will post a Ukranian cuss word for me I can do.
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>>41774103
>shitloads of yellow duct tape all over their arms legs and usually even helmets
So the barrier troops know who to shoot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barrier_troops


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88ZNcrTVNl8
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>>41774129
Shiet dawg
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>>41774036
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>>41774191

I'll raise you a Stalin
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>>41774166
You hear them say
>бyдь лacкa, вpятyй мeнe мaмa
a lot.
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>>41774191
oh, i see...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7TWLxCIgwE
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>>41769345
>As for the reconstruction of the Donbas - I think it is logical to put the question of reparations to the Russian Federation. They destroyed the Donbas, and Russia should pay for the restoration of Donetsk and Luhansk," Yatseniuk said.
Typical Jew
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>>41774205
But he not Russian unless we are in agreement that Georgia is Russian clay.
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>>41774167
Dancing NAF in Horvlika

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th9ZXKVKCE8
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>>41774209
Ill believe you this time emu anon.
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>>41774097
>The goal is a regime change in Kiev
>>41774098
>Their final goal at the end of the day is to overthrow the current oligarch government, replacing it with either federalisation or balkanization of the nation's oblasts
That sounds reasonable I guess. Thanks for the input

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/02/27/explosive-court-case-puts-chocolate-king-dock-307920.html
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>>41774276
I apologise for nothing.
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>>41774311
Sneaky little shit. Thats what I get for using google translate.
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are soldiers of sparta sying that Motorola is the best sound sincere? or do they need a NKVD officer's visit?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2EZfZ3Y85w
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If you guys were on point you would've heard about poroshenko and his allies moving his family from Ukraine to the Paris and then the U.S after the UAF retreat. Is there gonna be mutiny now?
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Russia is forming new semiconductor factories soon.

Putin saw the writing on the wall regarding NSA - they've already moved much of their top secret stuff to typewriters and paper because it's more secure than computers, and they want to produce their own processors and electronics so that they aren't reliant on backdoored western stuff.
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>>41774348
See no reason they wouldnt.
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Yeah we were talking about that the other day. There was a drop in their bond prices too so we thought something was going to happen and in typical fashion nothing did.
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Make him cry over UAF losses maybe? Pls Australian bros
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